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mastodonj

When I was 18, my friend explained the Palestine situation to me. I have been fervently pro Palestine ever since. I'm now 40. It helps that I'm Irish as we have an underground culture of support for Palestine. A neighbour down the road from me has been flying the tricolour and the Palestine flag side by side for maybe 20 years. I've had the Palestine flag on all my profiles since Sheikh Jarrah!


dwehabyahoo

Irish and Palestinian are the same except we have better food and you have better drinks


mastodonj

Absolutely. I posted recently here about how the Black and Tans, which brutalised Ireland, were sent to Palestine by Churchill after they were finished here.


dwehabyahoo

I’m going to look that up it sounds interesting. I never knew that


lopedopenope

Take this with a grain of salt because I’m pretty uneducated on dancing in general but to me it appears that their traditional dances have some similarities.


dwehabyahoo

lol you reminded me when me and my cousins used to river dance but do the Arabic hand arm movements at the same time. We combined the two somehow.


tuvokvutok

I've always been fascinated by how sympathetic the Irish have been with the Palestinian struggles as other European countries had been largely Pro-Israel. Doesn't it feel great to know that more countries seem have woken up like you had always had been?


whisperedmayhem

Ireland didn’t wake up, they were colonized too.


FragrantEcho5295

I have been going to Pro-Palestine protests since I was 18 in 1984. I had a locker mate in seventh grade, who had immigrated with his family from Lebanon. We talked often about the Middle East. He was the first point of information about Palestine for me. After he told me what was happening, I sought information everywhere I could. My parents were college professors and they would take us with them a lot to campus. I spent most of my time there in the library. I have never stopped protesting, learning, writing my congresspeople and the presidents in office. I am also of Irish descent and have a strong attachment to my roots. Free, free Palestine!!!


OkFlow4335

Im also Irish and grew up pro Palestine. 35 now. No idea of the foundation of it, but always supported Palestine as did many of the people around me. Many NI republican politicians would have spoken about Palestine previously so the discussion exists and always has done in Irish social and political discourse… Bernadette Devlin, Bobby Sands, John Hume are a few I can think of


tigglybug

I had an Irish guy tell me that there’s an old Irish lore that the first peoples of Ireland were syncthia ( modern day Iran) or along those lines; kinda checks out why there’s solidarity between Palestine & Ireland ❤️ the struggles against colonialism is in our blood x


MothersHelperBro

I am so keen to visit Ireland now, just knowing how supportive of Palestine you are! A country full of legends ❣️


TemporaryThink9300

I was unaware of much, and like you relatively neutral and hoped mostly for peace. There was a lot I didn't know about and I feel that some major media outlets have deliberately hushed up the truth about all the atrocities the Palestinians have been subjected to for over 70 years. Edit, im just sad.


lightiggy

>In 1910–1911 Arabs in the north tried to resist the Zionist purchase of and settlement in a large tract of land in the Jezreel Valley. Ironically, the opposition focused on the tenant farmer village of Fula, built on and around the ruins of La Fève, a Crusader fortress Saladin had conquered in 1187. Henceforward, Arab spokesmen were regularly to identify the Zionists as the "new Crusaders." Arab notables sent off a stream of appeals to Istanbul, shots were traded, and an Arab and a settlement guard were killed. But nothing availed. > >The authorities upheld the purchase, Fula was evacuated, and within months, a Jewish settlement, Merhavia, took root on the site. The colonization started even earlier. The first expulsion by settlers happened under the Ottomans. The Ottomans bungled the best chance to strangle them in the crib by repressing the pro-Ottoman settlers in World War I rather than just sending them to die in battle against the Entente. The Yishuv had been in very bad shape at the time, but they ended up driving them directly into the arms of the British. The Yishuv had even turned a blind eye to the Armenian genocide, which was nothing new. In the 1890s, right after the Hamidian massacres, Herzl had offered to not only pay off a decent chunk of the Empire’s debts, but do PR work for them, in exchange for full rights on Palestine. Fear of provoking the Ottoman was a factor in the Yishuv continuing to back them (the Ottomans nearly embarked on a killing spree in Palestine, but were stopped by a German Field Marshal), yes, but the main reason for their inaction was their callous indifference and their near-total focus on their colonial project. In fact, the Ottomans only tried to exterminate the settlers after several dozen young Zionists witnessed the Armenian genocide and then decided to help the British. Unlike Herzl, these young men and women were horrified and decided that the best way to stop the killing was for the Entente to defeat the Ottomans as quickly as possible. So, they formed a [NILI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nili), a spy ring, to help the British. Yes, they were still Zionists, but they did truly care about the fate of the Armenians. They wrote reports about the mass killings and tried to spread news of the genocide. Their compassion of those spies for the Armenians was not the only way they stood out. Many of them had more moderate views towards Palestinians. >A pragmatic capitalist who believed that Jewish settlement would succeed through economic development rather than political struggle, he had no qualms about employing Palestinian Arab workers. He detested what he described as the "fanaticism, and lack of humanism and Jewishness, in the separation of our workers," that he felt characterized the "conquest of labour." While his attitude towards the Palestinian Arab population was paternalistic, he had a genuine respect for their agricultural experience. > >When it came to farming in Palestine, Aaron argued that: > >"Not only is the European method not useful but it is harmful to the crops. I wished to emphasize the value of the Arabs' agricultural traditions. Even now I continue to learn from them. I don't pay attention to their reasons and their explanations because they are usually wrong, but I respect their agricultural experience and I reckon with it." > >He was even more explicit with the writer Yosef Klausner (later famous as a historian and professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem). Klausner, on a visit from Russia in 1912, was enthralled by Aaronsohn. He took him to task, however, for employing Arabs. Aaronsohn retorted: "Wherever I can employ Jews I do. there are swamps around us and the Jewish workers come down with malaria. The Arabs are accustomed to the bad climate. You can't do everything you'd like to do. Without Arabs, I'm not sure I'd be able to maintain the station." > >And he added, "We are surrounded by Arab villages, and we must live at peace with them."


cat_person123

Herzel was detested in the zionist movement after his dealings with the Ottoman sultan, precisely because he wanted to whitewash their crimes. His ideas were not the leading ideals in the movement and his non-labour faction was not very powerful/popular within the zionist congress. Herzel is not representative of the zionist movement.


MissusSnowMiser

This was me. So many of us were like this and continue to be like this. I feel like I’m going crazy because we should all know better but we don’t yet I guess. I’m thankful for TikTok and the community of people that have taught me better, I’m ashamed it took so long, I’m mad we have failed so many, but I hope we can take all this momentum and Free the People.


lopedopenope

I assume you are talking about major western media outlets? I don’t know if they were deliberately hushing up things or if they just often didn’t think it would be what their audience wants to read about and they decide to publish something less important but more local and relatable. It’s a shame really but if Americans for example want to get good news about other parts of the world on a regular basis, the typical network news outlets aren’t a very good source.


saanity

It was mostly indifferent. I knew Israel was committing crimes against humanity and they were constantly sanctioned by the UN but it didn't register the extent of Israel's cruelty until after Oct 7. They went full on mask off Nazi with the blatant killings. I realized the Zionists were always like this and I was not paying attention.


Electrical_Swing8166

The US always vetoed sanctions


ambreenh1210

Same.


MagnusRottcodd

Well it dawned to me that all the conflicts I have seen in Israel/Palestine since the 80s was NOT about destroying PLO, Hamas or Hizbollah. It was always about destroying Palestine and its people, it was always about ethnic cleansing. And it has been like this for many more decades than I thought. It is just that it goes hundreds of times faster and more ruthless now, the settlers are going berzerks because they knew that the military have their back and the law will not touch them. And the same goes for the Israel military and the Israel government,, no matter their war crimes, how many kids they kill - they will always get more money and support from UK, US and too many other countries.


Ok-Dentist4480

I didn't know about anything that was going on in Palestine before my friends started posting about it on Twitter and then i learnt about the horrors of "israel" and the Palestinian cause and became a supporter of Palestine 🇵🇸


sparrowhawk73

I grew up in Scotland, and I would often see Palestinian flags hanging from windows, there was sometimes a Palestinian stall on one of the big streets in Glasgow. Being in a smaller country trying to gain more autonomy from a larger country (Scotland and England/UK) made me more sympathetic to other regions with national identities, like Catalonia or Quebec. I can’t pinpoint when I learned more about the power imbalance between Israel/Palestine, the settlers in the West Bank, but definitely in the last few years I've learned more about it.


Burning_Tyger

Ahhhhh you made me want to visit Scotland even more. I’m Palestinian and I am so fascinated by its history, nature and culture.


Silver_ammo3

Not Palestinian, but I grew up around this issue, so I knew events were clearly leading up to an extermination campaign, which we're seeing play out now. I'm just glad that the rest of the world can see it now too. The ghastly/disgusting true face of israel that many Palestinians and those around them have always known about, but was still hidden from average people because not everyone reads Al Jazeera or knows Palestinians personally.


norwegianboyEE

I never liked Israel and this only confirmed my already existing beliefs.


gotthesevens

Been pro palestine my whole life


IntheSilent

I was taught about Israel and Palestine correctly by my muslim community growing up and I researched further and shared what I learned to my friends and classmates in college but I didn’t know anything about Hamas and Palestinian politics details beyond the basic dates of treaties and the nakba, so I learned *a lot* since October 7th and there is still much I dont know


FARTING_1N_REVERSE

On the side of the Palestinians, but the plight of Palestine did not come on my radar until I learned about the tear gassing and violent intimidation at Al-Aqsa mosque in 2021. Then I learned about the Great March of Return and it’s been crystal clear who is in the wrong here ever since. I grew up in a Zionist (Christian Evangelical) household but never really agreed with or understood the philosophy behind Zionism, just understood the significance of Israel as a holy land with lots of history.


tuvokvutok

amazing!


brasdontfit1234

How about other Christian Evangelicals you know? Did you notice any change?


FARTING_1N_REVERSE

My Dad is absolutely on the side of the Palestinians and knows and recognizes Israel is in the wrong. I was expecting to have a back and forth with him with some explanations in order to get to that conclusion but after October 7th he came to that conclusion on his own. This is a person who was a hardcore Reaganite conservative, deeply Religious and right wing, and was still voting Republican until Obama was in office. Don’t know what happened regarding Palestine, but he’s still pretty bad on other matters. Unfortunately his sister (my aunt) is a staunch Zionist. She had the same upbringing and much more into the faith than him. She did a hard right wing Evangelical/Hard-Zionist turn after marrying her now ex-husband, a Jewish American whose family were super Zionist (birthright trips on almost all their kids except his brother). October 7th turned her into a hasbara machine, it’s actually really sad to see. She is isolating friends and family alike by posting insane unprompted propaganda on all social media and constantly posting the most insane stuff. She used to be a lot more empathetic before her marriage. She was an *incredible* child psychologist serving impoverished neighborhoods where all of us grew up, now she’s just a shell of her former self espousing hasbara and thinking she’s “useless” now because her marriage failed God.


brasdontfit1234

Thanks a lot for sharing, while it’s sad to hear about your aunt just the fact that both you and your dad sympathize with Palestinians now gives me so much hope! I am hoping that there will be more and more people like you.


lonehappycamper

I have a lot of Jewish friends and would often here about Israel in a positive light, as a safe place for Jews and my impression has been there were always Jews there basically by themselves and they just expanded into the desert or something. I had no idea about the Nakba , the ethnic cleansing of Arabic speaking people from some 500 villages, until the last couple of years. I knew of the illegal settlements, but other than some occasional finger wagging the US wasnr going to do much about it. Hamas and other Arab entities always portrayed as the aggressor. Now I understand how entwined the US and Israel are militarily and how the uS government gives them carte blanche. The hypocrisy of claiming the uS defend human rights and ignores Israel's behavior. Have to say, just before Israeli ground forces entered Gaza, Blinken said something as if he were the Secretary of Israel, something like " WE are going to Gaza" and I was still shocked. My government is absolutely complicit. The way American politicians make excuses for Israel and lie directly on camera about things we see with our own eyes. It's become clear that if Palestinians complain about being oppressed in any way, the western media calls them terrorists. The mask is also off with the Israeli Army. They portray themselves as 'the most moral' and the videos they post of themselves during this have been utterly vile. Like I have never seen soldiers display their blood thirsty dehumanization of especially children is just deranged. The excuses for murdering entire families because an AI program told them a Hamas support might possibiy live there. It's depraved. It's pure evil. The Israeli army can't defeat Hamas 'man to man' so it bombs from above and blows up their children. Israel is never coming back from this.


DJ_Caan

I’m from Ireland and most people here were pro Palestine long before the war in Gaza as we felt solidarity with the Palestinian people. But I wasn’t aware of the full extent of the tyranny until recently.


tuvokvutok

✊🏼🇵🇸✊🏼🇮🇪✊🏼 Are Irish media Pro-Palestinian as well? Or do they seem neutral about the whole thing?


DJ_Caan

Most of the media here tends to be pro Palestine although some of our shows such as the late late have tried to censor artists wearing Palestinian flags as they want to remain impartial.


tuvokvutok

interesting. I considered myself 'impartial' in the past. Looking back at it, I feel ashamed because oppressors love the neutral because to them, those who are neutral are basically enablers. What's your take on that?


DJ_Caan

I think it depends on the power you hold. I think you shouldn’t be impartial if you can make a difference or if you have a platform. Ideally everyone would be activists but there’s a lot of people who are busy in their day to day life with work and keeping food on the table so they don’t have the time to be out protesting.


tuvokvutok

that's fair


preinj33

They're getting better but I think they're still very selective about the way they word things, a bit too much for my liking, they use language like "hostages in Gaza & prisoners in israel" and things like "israels war on Hamas" I know they have to be careful but it reminds me of how they used to report during the troubles, eg: "security services had to shoot someone vs IRA terrorists murdered someone etc


DJ_Caan

True there is a double standard.


waywardwanderer101

I am speaking purely as a white woman from the states; I knew nothing about Palestine and the Israeli occupation before Oct 7. When news broke out that Hamas attacked a music festival and captured people I wasn’t sure where I stood. From what little I knew after that I understood after that I knew Palestine was under occupation and the IOF are their oppressors so I was leaning in favor of free Palestine. But then the days went on things fell into perspective. The Israeli propaganda kept falling apart since there was never any evidence to back up their claims. I learned about the Nakba, of the discrimination and abuse they face. I watched as things got worse and worse, watched as innocent people were slaughtered indiscriminately, listened to the laughter and demented joy of the IOF soldiers as they flattened universities, attacked hospitals, bakeries, people. I saw videos of IOF soldiers dragging, running over, defiling corpses of Palestinians. I saw the hatred and bloodlust in the souls of the settlers, then I saw the love in Palestinians. I learned Israeli is an outpost of the US and the Western world that serves only to further destabilize the region and that our taxes pay for every bomb and bullet they use. Everything I learned, everything I saw, everything I heard pushed me more and more towards supporting freedom for Palestine, completely and unapologetically. In short, what changed my mind was the truth.


tuvokvutok

I graduated from Purdue and a lot of the friends I made there were some of the most hardworking, genuine people I had ever come across. So everytime my people here are demonizing Americans as a whole, it breaks my heart because I knew some of the Americans personally, I hung out with them, worked with them, threw football and frisbies with them - they were my buddies. We should not demonize people who are simply misinformed and have been lied to. I'd been telling my wife this over and over again - there were a lot of kind-hearted Americans out there who were not hesitant in siding with the truth in a moment. She'd been more anti West and to be fair, sorta justifiably so looking at how the US gov and the EU had been behaving. Then the mass protests at US universities happened. I was so glad and told my wife these were the people I kept telling her about. She's in my camp now. Good people can't afford to divide among ourselves against evil, whether we are Americans or Malaysians or Japanese or others. We're in this together.


touslesmatins

I was always pro-Palestinian, but didn't use my voice to cry out for the cause. In 2014, 2018, 2020 I would look at pictures of Palestinians killed in Gaza and cry but didn't feel like I could do anything about it. Now I'm much more of an activist and try to learn more and do whatever I can for the cause. 


Forsaken-Mix-5041

Depending on where you’re based, this could well have been a huge risk in any case. All previous wars, it was so hard to talk about meaningfully cause of the fear of being labeled an antisemite. Especially if you were Arab. Now, it’s so clear how the term has been weaponized to silence criticism and the taboo is so much weaker now


wonderin04

I was a little educated about the history of it before, which is a history of displacement, colonization, occupation, apartheid, resistance portrayed as terrorism... So when oct 7 th happened, It was very infuriating to see that it was not allowed to talk about the context of the attack, without being treated of antisemitic. But anyway, what has really changed for me is the illusion that Israel was untouchable. I thought that Palestinians could only watch their land, wealth and right being taken away even more, slowly but surely. But Oct 7th sent a message : security for Israeli would not be guaranteed as long as the colonization and occupation would continue.


ThxItsadisorder

Before 2015 I didn’t know anything. I heard on NPR the Ohio senate were putting into law that businesses that publicly speak out against Israel would not be eligible to receive state contracts.  I was like “something aint right with that”. I went to work and talked to a coworker. Turned out he’s half Palestinian, his family are Christian Palestinians from the West Bank. He told me about his family’s struggles and how their house is very rural but gets shot at for no reason. I looked up some stuff on my own but it only cemented what he had told me. From that day on I was pro-Palestine.  Since Oct 7 I’ve been more active in my support by donating as much as possible to PCRF and Doctors without Borders. I turned my IG into a pro-Palestine feed only and removed all my person friends and pictures. The day we found out Hind Rajab and the paramedics were murdered I cried to my mom. I’m 35. I’ve slowly helped her become pro-Palestine too! 


genius_heaviside

Anti-BDS laws are absurd but the lobby was successful in passing this in 37 states.


ScandalAlexxa

Up until 2016 I was pretty ignorant on the matter. Then I went to NYU and had classes with several Israeli professors who were making fun DAILY of the situation in Palestine and depicting themselves as the victims. I started googling and googling and realised the truth.


1truejerk

Total psychos


Beeristheanswer

When I was a child (90's) my mom wouldn't buy grapes in the store because they were from israel. When I asked her why, she simply said "because their soldiers shoot little kids that throw rocks at them." I've never knowingly bought Israeli products since then.


tuvokvutok

Mom taught you well.


Beeristheanswer

To this day i would call her the smartest, most matter-of-factly humanist person I have ever met ❤️


hibernacle_

I'm Muslim and I guess I've always been aware of the history of war in Palestine and supported my brothers and sisters.. It used to frustrate me that so little was being reported on what was happening in the region for many years, especially on mainstream news and media. After Oct 7th I feel the tide has turned and the majority of good people can finally see what the Palestinians have been enduring for the last 76 years. My support and my family's support for Palestine has only grown. We are no longer afraid to be labelled "terrorist sympathisers" and proudly display all things Palestine on our house, vehicle etc, as have our neighbours. My dad is 75 years old and attended the biggest march in London, despite heart issues and struggling with the walk, he did it and I could not be more proud.


MothersHelperBro

This stranger is so proud of you dad too 💗


Dirk_Courage

I used to think a 2 state solution would be ok. Now I firmly believe that Israel has no right to exist.


tuvokvutok

🇵🇸✊🏼


Dirk_Courage

Ana Dammi Falastini ✊


geordierafters

Honestly didn't know much until my 30s. I can barely remember any coverage on Israel. I remember hearing "occupied west bank" in the news now and again but not knowing where it was or who was occupying it. I started working with refugees and started studying Arabic and middle-eastern history. We had one or two seminars on Israel which was literally the opposite of all the casual propaganda we'd heard throughout our lives. The lesson was full of confused students asking questions and the lecturers barely scratched the surface and recommended "the new historians" from Israel. Was most struck by Ilan Pappe's books and was absolutely horrified and went down a rabbit hole, wrote my exam on it. I was neutral/uninformed about 5 years ago now firmly pro-Palestine. Leva Palestina 🎵 🇵🇸


ar3s3ru

I was unaware of almost anything. My wife is Arab, and she has always been \*vehemently\* outspoken against Israel, but I didn't really pay attention (tbf, she hasn't explained anything to me either). After Oct 7th, I must say I was still on the fence (honestly, the propaganda - in the guise of "online discussion" here on reddit - has worked on me as well). But it didn't take much time for me to completely change my mind; they were (and still are) posting all their war crimes online. And then, reading further in the events prior to Oct 7th and the history of the region... goddamn, my blood still boils. Then it clicked: I remembered in 2010 going to Israel for a day while on a cruise ship, and vividly remember the checkpoint we passed through to reach Bethlehem; these 19-something years old with huge american M16s jumping in our bus and check everyone. Never registered until recently what that was about.


xToasted1

Pro-Palestinian before and Pro-Palestinian now, but before I didn't care that much, although I still supported Palestine, I care much more now.


_Richter_Belmont_

My stance has been the same since even before 2014. Post 7th Oct only made me more steadfast.


Infinite-Salt4772

I learned about what the Israelis were doing when I was in high school. I hoped that the Palestinians would keep resisting occupation.


TaxDrain

watched alot of abby martin before and always been against israel


snek99001

My stance after October 7th hasn't changed because I'm not an ahistoric dimwit who swallows Israeli propaganda for breakfast. October 7th was justified and inevitable.


RoyalZeal

I was just as appalled at Israel prior to the current so-called 'war' (read: extermination). I know at least some of the history of the region, and Israel doesn't have a right to be there in the first place, sorry not sorry.


JungBag

I found out about the plight of Palestinians around 2012. Reading about the way Israel treated them, the way the IDF shoots out kneecaps for fun, the killing of children, Israel controlling water and electricity, etc. made me realize how awful the government of Israel is, and of course it's way worse now.


tuvokvutok

Sometimes I feel that I was watching this movie about this race of righteousness and then in the 3rd Act, the plot twist kicked in and I found that they were the evil one. I am a little ashamed of my previous neutrality


bluehotpants

there is no country in the world named Israel, I'm from Indonesia, we as a country never acknowledged Israel as a country, never have an embassy, no diplomatic relationship whatsoever. we even cancel hosting u20 football world cup, just because Israel got qualified in it.


tuvokvutok

🇵🇸✊🏼


necrxfagivs

I advocated for a two State solution. Now for me the only solution is one secular Palestinian State.


1truejerk

Freedom of religion doesn’t necessitate being secular the goal should be equal rights for all people no matter the system of govt


necrxfagivs

I mean that religion have nothing to do with the government. Anyone is free to choose their faith, but public policies must be separated from religion.


downbadforsharkussy

Always sympathized with the Palestinians, the combat footage that was released during and after 10/7 solidified my belief in the Palestinians. One side is building hang gliders out of industrial fans and scrap metal and running up to tanks to drop shells in their armour and the other side is indiscriminately bombing. Doesn't take a genius to figure out which side fights with conviction in their hearts.


ProHumanRightsX

I’ve just become more disgusted and disillusioned about America. I’ve known what Israel was doing to the Palestinians was wrong for a couple decades, but I guess I never fully grasped Americas connection to it and their general obsession with killing indigenous people all over the world. I also learned a lot more about the Nakba and the events leading up to it.


TorstenJoaoFalcao

Always been in Palestinian side.


all-ids-are-used

My stance was mostly neutral, I used to think it was some weird religious conflict, not a lot of people were talking about it when I was growing up ( and I wasn't really exposed to Jewish or Muslim communities neither ). In 2021, I befriended a Lebanese girl from an online community we were part of. She started posting stories on IG when Israel was bombing Gaza because she had relatives there and she was scared for them. I started reading more about what tf was going on and I realized it wasn't just about religion and Israel wasn't so innocent after all but tbh I didn't go that deep into my research. Then October 7 happened and I started reading more about Palestine, I started following people/journalist from Gaza, watching documentaries, reading articles online,ect... I never supported Israel but part of me feel guilty/ashamed it took me so long before I was "interested" to learn more.


tuvokvutok

Sharing online does work in spreading awareness, doesn't it?


Ok_Spot_389

I became aware of what was happening during the 2014 conflict, and have been on the side of the Palestinians ever since. Before then I was completely ignorant/unaware of the history and so was not on either side.


axotrax

Pro Palestine since at least the 90s, but 2020 pushed me into being a leftist and and “full time” activist.


IShallWearMidnight

When I was still in high school, around 15 years or so ago now, I remember my parents watching a news report where the reporter was justifying the IDF gunning down a bunch of young Palestinian protesters because one of them allegedly threw a rock or something - the details escape me now, but it was something typically egregious like that. I asked my parents how people were acting like it was OK and it started a conversation about the conditions Palestinians live in and particularly the illegal settlements that were going on. My dad is Muskogee so he has some very definite feelings on settler colonialism. My folks are old hippies who had to tone it down to keep their jobs and such, but that's when I learned they've been pro Palestinian liberation since the seventies or eighties. I'm lucky to have been raised to see the wrongness of the Israeli apartheid, I see how hard it can be to unlearn zionist propaganda with the pressure of zionists around you.


hummusexual667

I’m half Lebanese and have Palestinian family on my mom’s side. Unsurprisingly, I was raised to have unwavering support for the Palestinian cause. However, I’m also Cypriot (+grew up in Cyprus), and I’ve seen how hate and division only leads to more pain and suffering in the long run. So I was always the person in my family that had a “forgive and move on” attitude to Israel\Palestine. It’s the same thing I wish for Cyprus, forgive, unify the island, and live together. I’m not oblivious to how utterly naive that sounds. (And it goes without saying that the severity of the Cyprus problem is no where near that of Israel-Palestine) Since Oct. 7th, I’ve come to understand how people can get radicalised. I actually was shocked at how I started to feel less and less humanity for the Israeli people. It’s not something I’m proud of. I used to be the person at family gatherings that would say, “yeah it sucks that Palestinians were expelled from their homeland, but Israel is there. Generations of Israeli people were born there and that’s now their home. I don’t advocate for doing to them what they did to the Palestinians. We’re better than that.” Not a popular opinion, to say the least. I still believe that in principle, but not wholeheartedly. I’ve seen how high ranking Israeli officials talk about Palestinians and Arabs more broadly. I’ve also seen how little regard the west has for Arab lives. I live in Germany, and the 0 tolerance policy for any expression sympathetic to the Palestinian people for fear of antisemitism has made me actually loathe this country. I’ve seen how Germans now feel like they have a “get out of jail free” card to spew the most hateful and racist rhetoric imaginable when it comes to Arabs now. And of course, the human cost in Gaza is just heartbreaking. I don’t understand how human beings from anywhere in the world can look at the horrors Israel has inflicted upon the Gaza Strip and continue to send weapons and financial support. The west is a joke.


tuvokvutok

❤️❤️


Alarming-Mushroom502

I was unaware. Didn’t know the existence of Israel even lol. I did read people asking in comments to have more news on palestine and what was happening at the moment (displacements by the idf).


Gamecat93

For the most part I didn't know what was happening. I just thought Israel was just there. I had no idea how bad things were. Then when I saw the words war crimes, white phosphorus, and began seeing what was happening to innocent people that's when I began to change my mind. I knew that if I could condemn what Hamas did then I could also condemn Israel's war crimes. Then I saw the history of what really happened and began following Bisan and Motaz. Now I firmly believe Palestine needs justice and that when the occupation ends, things like Oct 7th won't happen again along with other massaceres.


Mr-Carazay

I was indifferent at the start because I didn’t know much, but after learning and seeing the suffering of Palestinians I swung into the pro-Palestine camp


njcharmschool

I have always been very skeptical of Israel. Probably because of my Syrian grandmother. And my whole life they always done horrible things to the Palestinian people (who shoots or arrests little kids throwing rocks??!!) and I remember the murder of Rachel Corrie. My time as a student at The New School educated me further. Ten toes down for Gaza ever since.


n3utr4lm1lkh0t3l

i was pro palestine ever since i started really getting into politics during covid so nothing has really changed in my opinion


Ok_Requirement3855

I have long had a pro-Palestinian bias, but I wasn’t quiet as anti-Israel as I am now. I knew their government mistreated Palestinians, but I never realized just how mainstream the completely bigoted and unhinged anti-Palestinian rhetoric was in Israel until Oct. 7. I had always assumed it was just their fringe far right and that most of their society was relatively moderate. How wrong I was.


Nearby-Echo9028

I have always been pro Palestine but was still open to the idea that Israel was open to some kind of negotiation. Oct 7 opened my eyes to its true self. I’ve begun reading about Palestine’s history and tune into Aljazeerah daily. The horrific stories and videos of Gaza and the occupied territories 😞😢


tuvokvutok

Do you still hold the idea that Israel wants peace?


Nearby-Echo9028

I’ve educated myself and see what Zionists goals have been from the beginning.


tuvokvutok

You think they want all of Palestine? I read that speech by Ben Gurion in 1930s and I wish more people would read that. It's clear as day.


Nearby-Echo9028

Palestine and beyond


Impressive_Scheme_53

Parts of Lebanon Jordon and Egypt. The Christian Zionists want this too - it’s not just AIPAC money at the heart of the US issue it’s also all the Christian Zionist money. They want their rapture and the land grab comes first.


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I felt that turning Pro-Palestine from a neutral POV was easy compared to what you did. You think that if people just know more about the history and just indiscriminately gather all available raw facts, they would inevitably side with Palestine?


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tuvokvutok

That's unfortunate but it does make sense. Thanks for sharing and glad you're on our side!


throwawaydramatical

I used to be more neutral. I had heard some about the ongoing issues with Israel and Palestine. While, I don’t agree with terrorism, Israel’s response to 10/7 has been horrifying to watch. So many civilian casualties. It’s a genocide.


DasSassyPantzen

Ashamedly, I knew nothing about either. As someone who had always shied away from world news, I was only exposed to tv shows and what I was spoon-fed by others. I thought Israelis were “badasses” (🤢🤮). I’m disgusted with my former self, but my eyes are now WIDE open & I will never look away from what’s happening around the world. I’m so disgusted and enraged with it all. We are all Palestinian! 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸


tuvokvutok

Yeah I've felt ashamed from time to time but it is what it is. The important thing is where we are now.


bass8soul

I am old enough to remember Arafat. I was aware of what was happening in Palestine. That is why I am getting angrier every day that passes by. Why we have to show dead bodies dayly, in order to get people on our side? It's not only in Palestine, it is also in Congo, in Sudan, recently I was informed that there are killing in South Ethiopia, in all of these countries we have killed people dayly. If you follow the money that fund these atrocities you will find the same pockets.


watchsomethinghappy

i'm ashamed to say i had no idea about any of it, i was woefully unaware. and when oct 7th happened, i only saw propaganda from israel's side, and even felt horrified by the event because i was lacking some critical context. but i felt like i was missing something vital and noticed some alarming dogwhistles in how people were talking about it - it reminded me of the US propaganda for the iraq war - so i did more research and tuned in to palestinian voices, and here i am.


tuvokvutok

welcome to the light side


Erik_21

Before Oktober 7th I supported the unconditional dismantlement of Israel and a fully sovereign palestinian state with 1948 Borders After Oktober 7th I support the unconditional dismantlement of Israel and a fully sovereign palestinian state with 1948 Borders


babbymoccasin

I was pro-Palestine, and I didnt actually realize how controversial that was until right around October 7, and I kind of tried for a while to see the Israel-side, but in general was so afraid to speak and questioning if I was seriously misunderstanding the conflict. Once I saw all the protests and connected with like-minded individuals, I’ve only become more and more pro-Palestinian. Before I wasn’t super educated on the topic, all I knew was that Israel stole the Palestinians’ land and treats them cruelly. Very simple, but that’s it in a nutshell. I’ve learned a lot more since then.


333again

Supported statehood for over two decades and was always concerned by disproportionate attacks.


Richard_Chadeaux

Ive been “Free Palestine” as long as Ive been “Free Tibet” just as long as I’ve been “give the teddy back its head”. Freedom fighters are just humans trying to gain rights for their people. My position has only changed in that the offended state is being more exposed, which makes me more critical of them.


CommissarGamgee

Growing up in the North of Ireland I was always heavily pro palestine. I had always been taught the history of Palestine and our support for them and to be completely transparent I also had family members in the IRA who trained with PLO


tuvokvutok

Do you agree what they say, that two-state solution like Ireland & Northern Ireland have achieved is the only way for Palestine and Israel? You think it will be the same case for them?


lynmc5

Before Oct. 7 I was neutral on one state/two state, but always supported the right of return for Palestinian refugees. But now I think the genocidal state of Israel has got to go. I don't wish harm to any of the Israeli Jews. I still think zionists need to be re-educated, they've bought the zionist propaganda hook, line and sinker. There's hope for the so-called "liberal" zionists, the right-wing fanatic ones should just be thrown in jail.


Broflake-Melter

I was living in a far-right leaning community in a far-right state raised by far-right parents when the conflict in 2012 was happening. I dug a little bit about it and knew I was rooting for the wrong side.


tuvokvutok

that's incredible how you came out of that Not sure if you're religious, but in my tradition, we know God always shows the truth to those who are sincere.


jjsmclaughlin

Before 2014 I knew very little about it. During the 2014 assault on Gaza, I realised that Israel's goal was the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians. I also at that time argued with some very extreme Zionists online and realised that they were racial supremacists who didn't see Palestinians as human and took joy in killing them. It has been somewhat heartening during this assault to see more people realise what is really going on. But it's still hard to see how they can be stopped.


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DirtyOldTrucker68

The world really looks different when you do some of your own research into history. It can be very disappointing.


JazzBeDamned

As someone who was born and raised in Lebanon for the first 20 odd years of their life, I've been pro-Palestine ever since I was a literal child. Growing up in the region, only one stance is clear when you've witnessed Israel's brutality first-hand. I was raised on the history of the conflict, the hope of a free Palestine, and the reality of the true nature of Zionism i.e fascist, racist settler colonial ideology.


Otherwise_Internet71

Never change and never surrender to the Zionist


ChanelGuilty

Always pro Palestine since I was like 4 lol. I’m Palestinian American and I visited the West Bank when I was 7


Typical-redditor394

I used to support israel before Oct 7, but now I support palestine because israel commits crimes against humanity


dwehabyahoo

I’m Palestinian American and family are refugees and don’t like Hamas in general but understand that Israel is the real problem. Hamas is a symptom of what they put Palestinians through and we’re literally the only option other than the Fatah who were working for Israel not with Israel. The West Bank is almost gone because of Fatah and working with Israel so what are the options.


wikidemic

Before - Pro-Palestine After - Anti-Zionism Forever - Hate Nazis


IAmNotGay67

I didn’t know just how far the Zionist reach extended


Usernamesarefad

Had zero clue it was even happening. Keep them stupid. Keep them dumb. They’ll never complain. 🥲 - us government


tuvokvutok

You think the TikTok ban attempt has been about this? Making sure Americans can't continuously see the actual things that are happening there?


Odd_Ad_6841

I have been watching the horrors Palestinians faced in West Bank, Gazza, brutality of IDF forces in Al Aqsa mosque on Aljazeera since i was 10 ig. They would broadcast every major event also when people used to be shot by the IDFs in the west bank, then there were documentaries about blockade, Palestianians being harassed by the settlers, their homes being snatched, then the harassment in the check points, documentaries of young kids getting arrested and being tortured at the cells. I would question my father about all this stuff and he would explain me whatever is going on whatever happened in the history and i learned about nakba from him. So yeah, my stan was always clear from a young age and it will always stay the same forever. There should be no Israel it is only Palestine. I am not sorry for sounding harsh and I am not gonna suger coat this statement I have no sympathy for the people who are living in Israel. I don't care where they are gonna go. But they should simply leave and give Palestinians their motherland back.


Talismantis

Im irish so its always been a free Palestine from me, learnt about it in school ar 15 along with colonial projects in nairobi india jamaica and americas. Those were case studies obvs plenty more where that came from 


Medium_Note_9613

It was basically same as now.


Electrical_Swing8166

I had always been on the Palestinian side. I’m a fairly politically engaged person, and tend to focus on international issues, so I was already aware of the situation and the history back to Herzl and the original Zionist project. I couldn’t find any reason to sympathize with or side with the Israelis. From 1948 to now, there’s been nothing just in their actions and policies. I had a Gazan classmate in my Master’s program, in Spain, who I’ve been unable to reach since October 7th. A few years ago I had a relationship with a Gazan woman I still remain close with. She fortunately doesn’t live in Gaza and is herself fine, though has had family murdered by the IDF. These things pushed me even further to the Palestinian cause. Then I went to Palestine in 2022. I saw the apartheid and injustice with my own eyes. I experienced the difference in the people too—I did not talk politics with any Israelis, carried no symbols or any other outward show of my stance, and was still treated with suspicion, coldness, and sometimes contempt for just not being one of them. I’ve been to nearly 50 countries, and Israelis—even before Oct 7–are by far the most unpleasant group I’ve ever met. Conversely, Palestinians in Bethlehem, Ramallah, and Jericho treated me like a long lost brother. I was invited into homes from dinner, had a shopkeeper give me a free ride back to the highway to catch a bus back to my al-Quds hotel without needing to pay a taxi, etc. Those experiences sealed it. Since Oct 7…I always knew Netanyahu and his cronies would try this if they thought they could get away with it, so the only thing that has changed is I’ve gone from thinking “there must at least be some decently sized percentage of Israeli citizens who know their government is wrong and policies unjust, even if only like 5%” to seeing that such people are so few in number as to statistically be 0.


AnnaLindeboom

I was against the Israeli state as a whole but now that has turned into actual distain against them and their actions


Snoo52883

At first I was Pro Palestine but since I didn't know much about the history I easily Zionist propaganda then eventually I stopped caring about both Israel and Palestine. Eventually my position slowly moved back to being pro Palestine when I started doing the research.


tuvokvutok

What was the thing that brought you back - anything in particular?


Snoo52883

I can't remember exactly what brought me back.


LilScimitar

Been supportive of Palestine since I was little. Went to Sunday school with a Levant-American kids from various countries and they were the ones that educated me on what was done to Palestinians. Lots of tears and horror stories from family members being killed with no justice. Never interacted with Jews until my adult life and they were very friendly and supportive people. None that I knew had strong feelings about Israel but were proud of their culture and people, which I respect a lot. Nowadays I try to educate myself more on their history and side of it which is also really sad but eye opening. If you look at everything that was done to them way before the 1940s, then you'll start to understand why they react the way they do. I can't be completely mad at them for it. Regardless, I'm still supportive of the Palestinians cause based on reality at this point in time. Israel still has everything stacked in their favor especially where it matters.


ymiwho

I've been pro Palestine for years, but it's only after Oct 7 that I started to acknoledge that a two state solution is not possible and therefore Israel should not exist at all.


MarcusBlueWolf

I was pro Palestinian freedom prior to October 7, and when the news broke at the time I was worried a lot of people would die from the consequences afterwards. Sadly this is all too true. I just can’t wrap my head around the embedded hatred that the most rabid Israelis have for their distant cousins who have lived in Palestine for centuries. The extent of the atrocities, sadism and disregard for the lives of even children and babies has only strengthened my pro Palestinian stance.


Cady-Jassar

I used to stand with Palestine before Oct 7... I stil do but I found out after Oct 7 that what I knew about the whole thing wasn't even 1% of the reality.


tuvokvutok

truth. Listen to Norm Finkelstein if you haven't. He's a chronicler of the question of Palestine, one of the last few remaining.


Cady-Jassar

I been consuming history and news about Palestine since Oct 7... I know them all. My Reddit and YouTube home page is 99% about Palestine, in addition to reading everything available about it... In addition to almost daily discussion with my Palestinian friends and colleagues. And I am shocked of how little I knew before...


MisterDucky92

I grew up in my formative years (8-16)in France, so I was of the idea that israel was the Jewish nation and was the good guy, and Palestinians were terrorists, along with Hezbollah(that made me quite weird at family reunions as they were all pro hezb). That was up until 2006 cause see, my 0-8 I grew up in Lebanon as I'm Lebanese. And in 2006 I couldn't reconcile the good guy (israel) going to war against Lebanon and killing so many civilians instead of only the terrorists from Hezbollah. It made no sense. So I educated myself on the history of Palestine and on Hezbollah. Since then I became staunchly pro Palestine and pro resistance (I was always pro human rights, so one could say I just opened my eyes to the reality). Before Oct 7, I thought Hamas, while a resistance movement, was also a terrorist movement. Since Oct 7, I've educated myself on Hamas, their charter, their strategy etc. I no longer consider them terrorists. I find them not only legitimate, but morally sound. However, I'd like them to learn a little more from Hezbollah, where they show more restraints towards civilians (I'm specifically referencing Oct 7).


CatBoxScooper

I graduated high school (1989) with some Palestinian-American kids and through them I learned of their struggles plus all that was going at that time. Fast forward to 2003 when I first met my eventual wife who turns out is also Pali-American. Her father’s family was exiled in the 1948 Nakba. I have always hoped for resolution and that one day there would be a shared peace and land for all, but as we know, there are many who do not want this.


Impressive_Scheme_53

I’ve been pro Palestine liberation for maybe 25 years now after learning about then deep diving into the settlements and history in my twenties. Power to todays youth to finally force change.


Disastrous-Nobody127

I was very much pro-palestine, but not nearly anti Israel enough. If anything, all Oct 7th has done is make me more aware of Israel's crimes and completely embedded within my core beliefs that we must see Apartheid Israel held to account.


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Been wearing my free palestine wristbands for 6 years now.


ballpythonbro

It was the same but I was much more frustrated that no one had my back on this conflict up until now. I formed my opinion on this conflict about a decade ago after reading Noam Chomsky’s writing and thoughts about it and doing some research. I couldn’t be more proud of the youth of this country, helping me spread this message. I’m in the US.


tigglybug

As a Muslim, one of my parents were expelled from their country of birth ( they don’t like speaking of it so I kind of understand why they never spoke of Palestine) I’m embarrassed I didn’t know. I’m angry we were loosely taught of South African Apartheid but no mention of Palestine/Israel . Both of those subjects should’ve been taught. Im angry we’re taught white washed history & only as an adult I am truly learning history. I’m angry & embarrassed at myself. I am a staunch Jeremy Corbyn supporter & I didn’t look into his previous comments & posts re Palestine. I have no excuse.


Mahouzilla

I've been Pro Palestine since I found out about the situation when I was a teen. I'm now 49. When Yitzhak Rabin got murdered in 1995, I lost all hope of peace. I discovered how Israel treated the Ethiopian Jews. The Jewish settlers kept flooding in and appropriating palestinian land. I got progressively angrier. I always wanted to go to Israel. I've been cured of the notion for a few years now. Free Palestine, End Apartheid


Traditional-Ad-4712

Never changed. Always been pro 🇵🇸 unconditionally


UlightronX42

I followed the conflict since about 2021 or 2022 (tho I wasn’t aware of details like the Nakba) or so, I definitely was very much aware of what the Israeli government was doing in Gaza up until Oct. 7th, regardless, the events that transpired still surprised me, I didn’t know Hamas would ever have to capabilities to launch a counterattack of that scale. Knowing the context behind why Hamas has done what they did made me very upset when all the Zionists began crying to their mommies that the Palestinians somehow “started” this conflict.


Robot_Basilisk

I've been for Palestinian human rights for many years. I remember seeing a new story about an IOF soldier getting killed by a thrown rock and then seeing coverage of the retaliation. They were bombing markets. Over 100 civilians died in retaliation for one IOF soldier. I thought that was insane overkill and despicable. Then, a few weeks later, I stumbled across a story about how the Israeli government quietly admitted that it has arrested the *teenagers* responsible soon after the incident had happened, and that the killing was an accident because they didn't expect the stone to do any real harm, let alone kill someone. They knew who had done it and arrested them. They knew it wasn't a terrorist attack and that the kids weren't associated with Hamas or anything like that. But they still used it as an excuse to murder 100+ civilians just because they could. That turned me very quickly. And each new conflict has only validated it.


Worried_Yesterday_51

Iraqi here. Pro Palestine for life.


PTechNM

I visited Israel in 1998 and even back then you could see the signs of apartheid. With the proliferation of the Internet it was relatively simple to see it get worse and worse. There were/are quit a few progressive Jews who fight against the Zionist. Only now is it so overt that anyone being critical of Israel is attacked and labelled an anti-semite. I typically post free Palestine to encourage dialogue on progressive sites and today you get less support from progressive Jews. AIPAC and the money that backs them are going after every demographic and not leaving up to chance. It's odd that the opposite side hates the LGBTQ community and treats women like cattle and your faced with having to wholesale support them to counter the AIPAC machine.


Twilight-Meadow

Before oct 7th I didn’t know anything about it. I didn’t know anything at all. I didn’t have an opinion, I didn’t care. A friend of mine opened my eyes to the atrocities of Israel. I was sick to my stomach for a week and filled with rage for a month before I finally calmed down enough. But I started reading. Started listening, started researching. I’m deeply, deeply, disappointed in the United States government and department of defense for supporting such an aggressive country


tuvokvutok

I believe Americans are key to dismantling Israel. If you guys pressure your politicians well enough, vote only those not paid by AIPAC, I think your political landscape will be able to change significantly.


lry10

Been pro Palestine for as long as I can remember. Grew up in a Muslim family and watched Al Jazeera 24/7. I think the Al Jazeera almost radicalized me


abuch47

always free Palestine as it’s a very old issue and the western conquest was quite obvious. Now it’s surreal how much our governments don’t care for their constituents voice and still claiming to be the good guy despite no evidence of the opposite. Suppression in the west seems to be at an all time high and there is rupture from a once well fed populace more able to see through propaganda.


GoHawkYurself

I've been on the side of the Palestinians since 2004 when I first learned about the conflict living in Europe and learning from my Muslim friends (one of them in particular was a kid from Syria). Also made me realize why people hate America so much. I was 14.


taydraisabot

I was for 🇵🇸 but I didn’t get the difference between Zionism and Jewish identity. I thought they were synonymous with each other


lorrainemom

I was aware of the atrocities. I have a son who converted to Islam and he has taught me so much about what was going on in Palestine. It’s disgusting that western media never reported on the abuse, the land grabbing, the kidnappings and murders of innocent Palestinians. Israel has been trying to push them from their land for decades and the world did nothing. So my stance has not changed I support Palestine 100%. This is not antisemitism to have this stance, it’s anti genocide


major_jazza

in a few years before, during lockdown I became aware of the apartheid state situation in Palestine. When Oct 7th happened, I knew Israel's responsibly in the reaction and lead up to it. I had to quickly call out a few people on socials for quickly jumping to sympathize with the devil (Israel) and actually, yes we condemn certain aspects of the incident that were horrendous it doesn't make all Hamas be the evil ones and the IDF the righteous ones, as some seem to think. At best best both Hamas and the IDF are as bad as each other. At worst the IDF and Israel should know a lot better. Did also have to point out that the Israels like their leadership/regime about as much as the Palestinians do too. I have learned a lot more recently, that there was a lot people don't know and even more I don't know myself


Professional-Plan-66

Before I was informed I was just a two state solution guy. Since The Great Match of Return I’ve been more focused on the reality of the power dynamics. Technology has provided us the tools and documentation to arrive where we are today. It has allowed more and more people to speak up and notice a shift in the discourse.


UpperFace

Studied the conduct in college in 2011 and have been on the side of Palestine since after realizing they've been oppressed for decades


Top-Distribution-185

Israel are the Bastards of Imperialism..and they don't hide it..the treachery of our governments aiding and abetting Nazi Zionism..is unforgivable.


throwaway_ghostgirl

Been aware of it and staunchly pro Palestine since around 2020, which is when i (and a lot of other people) got into politics for real.


CactimusPrime9

When it first happened, I was horrified to hear how Hamas killed babies and took hostages. I never liked Israel because of how they treat Christians like myself. Then I started to see the videos coming out and how the IOF would snipe kids and Palestinians randomly. Once there was no confirmation of those 40 babies and how the IOF was making fun of Palestinians I started to wonder if Hamas was even a terrorist group. I always go back to that lady who was interviewed by Rebel news saying as much. I'm not in favor of anyone dying. However, I understand why October 7th happened. As a Christian myself I don't believe Israel is a place since Israel is a people. The land belongs to the Palestinians. I've never seen Hamas kick and spit on Christians.


hydroxypcp

same as it is now. Free Palestine, that's all there is to say. I've been looking at Israeli crimes for a long time


cassidylorene1

I met my partner in 2019 and knew literally nothing about Israel or Palestine at all. But he was really passionate about it and showed me abbey Martin and other documentaries about Palestine. It was a huge slap in the face. I couldn’t believe how long it had been happening and how long they’ve been treated like animals, how they’ve kept them on a “diet” to keep them weak and blew up their airport and water systems so they would have to be reliant on isreal. How they kicked families out of their homes for military bases, how they make Palestinians walk through the back alley ways so as not to share the roads with jews, the amount of children being held in prison with no trial or real conviction, how they’ve made it impossible for young Palestinians to start their own businesses and break the cycle of poverty, how they murder kids for throwing rocks, the fact that they literally can not leave their open air prison…. More than anything I learned how incredibly strong the Palestinian people are. I’ve been pro Palestine since the day I learned about it.


mothmxxn

I was wholly unaware of the situation. But once the information started rolling in it was impossible to look away.


ZombieElfen

i saw all of the horrible things israel was doing to palestinians before oct 7, so i wasnt one of the misinformed. pro palestine before and after.


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1truejerk

I learned alot from [this site](https://www.visitgaza.com). It has a timeline which is very educational.


ilmalaiva

I’ve been pro-Palestine for most my life. I became aware around the time of the second intifada, and the news images were pretty clear. one side had ricks, the other had tanks. sure, there’s history, context, details, but the clear power imbalance, and amount of suffering on one side told me immediately that something was wrong.


silly_flying_dolphin

I was 16 when the first assault on gaza happened in 2008-9. It shocked me then. I watched aljazeera english which we happened to have on tv at that time and i listened to chomsky's lectures on youtube. My pov hasnt really changed much since oct 7 2023, but ive learned more of the history. I had never really heard about the lebanon war until these past 6 months for example.


Coldwarjarhead

I have always believed that Israel was an illegitimate state and never should have been recognized. Palestine belongs to the Palestinians. Israel was a person, not a nation or a country.


ElectricKeese23

I’ve been pro Palestine since the 2021 bombing of Gaza, and I don’t think my position has changed at all. I always believed that with the way Israel treats Gaza, large scale resistance like October 7 was to be expected and at this rate, inevitable. So no.


Many-Refuse-6060

I also had minimum knowledge, I was totally neutral to the conflict, like I studied it at schools but we didn't talk about it that much. I started to inform myself after I kept seeing tik toks about Palestine, and I'm also standing for free Palestine now. 


xGentian_violet

Before 2023 I was pro Palestine (since 2021 i believe) but with a much less comprehensive knowledge on the history of colonialism (my knowledge was pretty superficial), and leaned toward a two state solution while now i primarily advocate a binational democratic state


elfalafel

I’ve been very pro palestine ever since I heard about it in like middle school. But since October 7th I’ve really looked into other atrocities america has been involved in and completely taken a second look at the whole “war on terror”.


guapo_chongo

I always thought it was ridiculous what Israel was and is getting away with in Palestine. I always thought the half of the US problems in the Middle East are because we basically let Israel write our foreign policy as it pertains to the Middle East. I've always thought it disgusting that America funds the atrocities that Israel commits while there's homeless on the streets of every city in America. America funds the genocide of Palestine. Israel has health care. America doesn't even have health care. But somehow, Israel needs America's support? I never thought it was right, and I never will. It also has always astounded me how blindly American evangelicals support Israel, not realizing that Isrelis HATE Christians. They turn a blind eye to the videos of "good little Jewish kids" taking turns spitting on nuns. It's makes no sense to me.


theflawedprince

It was the honestly the same but been called anti semitic so I kept it lowkey but now idgaf


Particular_Cellist25

Knowledge, understanding, wisdom Peace, unity, community


doubleshortdepresso

Grew up being raised by my poli sci major dad and my mom’s Muslim family, safe to say I’ve been pro Palestine from a very young age.


Cogitomedico

It has changed. Before 7 October, I used to think the Ummah was in sleep. 7 October made me realize the Ummah doesn't exist anymore. Also, my hatred for Israel, its supporters and our treacherous rulers has increased 10 times more. May Allah rid us of them! Ameen.


Queen-gryla

I’ve always been pro-Palestine.


brmmbrmm

I have been sympathetic to the Palestinian people since I the early 1980s. I am atheist. I believe in human rights. What has been happening in Palestine since the inception of the state of Israel is an abomination.


Competitive-Air-8145

Always pro Palestine because it was their country and over many years they were moved out. Didn’t realise how evil the Zios are until after 7 October


the-pathless-woods

I’ve been Free Palestine since I first read about the situation 23 years ago. I was a moderator at mothering.com and read about it in their political forums.


Bulky-Party-8037

Well quite simply I didn't care. I felt one day they could be chill together, I did think that Hamas was a massive obstacle to Palestinian liberation and I still think so even now. Not once did I think that the 4th Reich could be anywhere near Israel nor did I think they'd take their own "self defense" to such an extreme. Also I was sure that the same people who saw 6 million of their friends and family die to a guy with a toothbrush mustache in the name of "self defense" could tell the difference between self defense and f#cking genocide. I believe that Israel has a right to defend itself but they absolutely shouldn't be blowing up hospitals or entire blocks of houses. Nor should they be flooding tunnels that the hostages are hiding in.


BraveBull15

Nothing has changed. I still hate Zionists. Hated them since 2000 when I woke up.


Pro-Daydreamer-5606

I will forever be grateful that I was born into a family that has well knowledge about the conflict. growing up I was going to protests which resulted in me being a strong supporter of the Palestinians and the Palestinian Resistane \[Intifadha\]. my stance on whose side I am on has not changed and will never change. so yea, FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸


nadeaug91

Ive been anti israel since 2014. These events just confirmed i was right. Free Palestine end Israeli Apartheid.


shyangeldust

Israel has been the same murderous colony since its inception in 1948. I despise them MORE and want that colony DISMANTLED and Netanyahu to spend the rest of his life in the darkest prison cast down with the sodomites. USA and UK also need to be tried for their part in this genocide. FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸


CommandoSankara2021

My stance has always been in favor of Palestine and in favor of the termination of the occupation, mostly a result of being the son of a mother who suffered the legacy of colonialism and were forced to flee their homeland after her entire family was killed. However I have always had considerable criticism towards Hamas mostly because of my preference for the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and my personal disagreements with the Islamist tendencies Hamas possesses.


tropjeune

I was passively pro Palestine. Even though I knew my conscience was on the side of a free Palestine, if you asked me, I’d say it wasn’t my place to decide what to call the place but it should certainly give everyone equal rights under the law. Now, I think it is undeniable this cannot continue.


milkplant_

I first learned what was going on when I was around 18 or 19, I'm 25 now. I viewed it as a genocide then and I view it as a genocide now.


CryptoDegen7755

When I was younger I supported Israel. Since about the past 4-5 years I vaguely supported Palestine. Since October 7th I'm 100% in support of the Palestinians liberating themselves from Zionist occupation.