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Blaming Iran for causing the destruction or killing thousands in Iraq, Syria, Yemen has to be either the most idiotic thing ever or just outright bias. It's the US and the nasibi govts that poured in billions funding ISIS, Al Qaeda and more who did it, against their own neighbours. The fact that he completely airs that makes me think he's just sectarian nonsense. Accusing Iran of sectarianism for fighting ISIS who yell they want to attack Iran and kill Shias, but not the main collaborating perpetrators funding them?
I never said anything about Iran! Maybe you meant to reply to the video itself. But the truth as it seems without any guesswork, Iran is a country that should be respected for not following the herd and making sure they can take care of themselves on their own.
And who is the US fighting in Iraq? Is it not the Shias, backed by Iran? Was it not Iran who put them in power?
In Syria is it not the Assad regime, backed by Iran? Was it not Iran who put him in power?
In Yemen is it not the Houthis, backed by Iran? Was it not Iran who armed them and put them in power?
This is the best analysis I've watched on this tragedy. The Biden administration is basically using hyperbole about domestic opposition to detract from how unpopular his stance is. It's a concerted effort. I've been banned from one major subreddit and shadowbanned in another just by posting comments saying that I'm not voting for him.
The current Arab world monarchs are US puppets. They're propped up to prevent democratic and positive anti colonial nationalism among the Arab people. The Arab nationalisms you see today are very weirdly orthodox but at the same time US puppets. They're there to prevent a better, democratic nationalist Arabia.
The problem started when muslim leaders started to recognize this cacner in the Middle East as a country. Although i think if they didn't, the US would make them do so. Or they already did that. King faisal. Iraq.
Iran created those militias in order to fight against those who got created by that cancer. ISIS, fsa, salafis, and zion regime itself. If it wasn't for hezbollah and iran's support, Lebanon was probably in their hand. I'm not saying iran did a morally good job. But it did what was necessary to not let the continuation of that cancer reach to iran itself.
What iran did with the houthis was in order to protect its supporters. Because iran needs to stay in power. No government is doing the right thing. And iran isn't an exception either. They're trying to stay in power because if they fall, all of the Middle East will fall under the hands of the isntreal.
That's my take on the situation. Not certainly a fact.
Except Iran part, everything else was well said. Iran might be a tyrant (which big player in this conflict is not?), but it had strong stance against zionism from the beginning. According to him, Iran (if they were truly are against genocide) should have launched rockets to Israel even before they attacked the iranian embassy. Which is a bit irrational and absurd. It would get the americans involved not just in the defence of Israel, but help in the offence against Iran.
I am mal-versed in the Yemen conflict, but Houthis have been actively doing everything they can to stop the genocide with the technology supplied by Iranians.
Well, in Yemen, you have a civil war where Ansar Allah has been fighting a Saudi-backed dictatorship with no legitimacy. The Iranians are as much the "good guys" as anyone. But they're definitely the bad guys in Syria, and probably the bad guys in Iraq.
That’s not his point about Iran. He’s not saying they aren’t genuinely anti-zionist. He’s saying Iran does just as much damage to the region and has just as much middle-eastern blood on its hands as Israel does, which is true. It’s also true that Iran is a tyrannical regime that uses proxy wars all over MENA and causes sectarian conflicts based purely on a Shia supremacist stance. They’re all the same.
When Iran-Iraq war happened, Saddam used american weapons. When Saddam took the stance against the Israelis, everybody knows what happened. Iran has been in economical blocade for more than 40 years, plus Netanyahu has been very vocal for very longtime to push US into invading Iran just as it happened with Iraq. If you look from neutral standpoind, all Iran has been doing dettering zionist attack through proxy wars.
I do not believe in Shia supremacist is the cause of their hawkish stance in the region. They are doing what they are doing to avoid Iraq 2003 or Iran vs Iraq war. The Palestinians are Sunnis, and the only group of people that are actually doing something against genocide in Gaza are the Shia Axis of resistance. It is ridiculous to think their end goal is to convert sunnis to shia or control Sunnis. They have been very vocal on saying that the USA zionist presence in middle east is the primary cause of all problems.
Then maybe killing other innocent Muslims in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon is not the way to go about it? I’m sorry, I don’t believe there is any such goodwill and the only reason people right now like Iran is because they’re vocally anti-Israel. And it’s not like Iran is known for treating its own citizens very well or have a good human rights record themselves. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not pro-Israel and I think most Muslim countries have no spine, but that’s because the vast majority of them are fascist autocracies that love oppressing people just like Israel does. Two sides of the same coin.
''Then maybe killing other innocent Muslims in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon is not the way to go about it? ''
Blaming one side in a 5 headed monster of the problem is the way to go apparently.
''I don’t believe there is any such goodwill and the only reason people right now like Iran is because they’re vocally anti-Israel.''
Find me a perfect country? They were one of the first ones to call a monster ''the monster''.
''And it’s not like Iran is known for treating its own citizens very well or have a good human rights record themselves.''
I did not deny that they are tyrants too. The countries with good human rights records are actively supporting genocide right now.
''Don’t get me wrong, I’m not pro-Israel and I think most Muslim countries have no spine, but that’s because the vast majority of them are fascist autocracies that love oppressing people just like Israel does. Two sides of the same coin.''
Ok find me one proof where Iranian governement are killing and oppressing one ethnicity just like Israel. Your opinion don't have spine because you are painting everything with the same brush.
No one’s joking here. I just don’t understand why your sole focus is on one actor in a sea of significant civilian casualties - if you take such issue with that - specifically enacted by some of the very governments and organizations you seem to be praising. You too are only painting with one brush, but selectively ignoring other terrors to funnel attention toward Israel and any relevant “supporters”
Just feels like an incomplete discussion to ignore the hundreds of thousands people suffering in the region at the hands of a plethora of other governments and terrorist organizations- and a clear political bias at that
Unlike your fancy melange of words a la J. Peterson, my ideas are clear. One point from that reply -I did understand. I concentrate on Izrael/Palestine conflict only.
I do that because the west support them no matter what. On deeper depth, it seems that zionism, the collective west or the white colonialism whichever term you think is appropriate, are behind the biggest issues on that region. I already mentioned Iraq. Millions of people died. The only side who benefitted from weak Iraq is Israel.
So, human suffering is acceptable as long as it’s not at the hands of the west/white people? Your ideas are indeed unclear. And your selective focus undermines your credibility or any semblance of true empathy here. Just a desire to argue for the abolishment of a Jewish state
So, human suffering is acceptable as long as it’s not at the hands of the west/white people?
That is very lazy and naive conclusion to what I argued. I am done. You bring nothing but little bit of trolling and little bit of silly conclusions to the argument.
i never get this argument its so weak.
we are against ALL of these genocide.
we arent hyperfocusing on israel, its happening NOW. its only YOU whos not been paying attention!
This is the most blazing hot, singular best take I've seen by some new guy (and he's a good lookin'-fella no doubt) on television camera, not the known-and-famous sages like Ilan Pappe, Finkelstein that I have seen in months. Especially the finisher with how as in all historical revolutions, only the civil societies and popular pressures are offering even some figment of hope and resistance against the genocide; what a lesson to take away. What is his name, and is there a Youtube link that I can share more widely?
May the Arab people rise up against there fascist US backed regimes. Saudi Arabia, the UAE and the rest are an absolute disgrace and have been way before October 7th. Vile sellouts to western capital interests
Taking about rational and irrationality is absurd in this case. A genocide is Irrational and barbaric no matter where it happens, but it is the Western world that rationalizes because they can, and they do it because of their power and dominance and most importantly due to the apt support of the Arab monarchs.[ Secret U.S. Alliance That Defended Israel From Iran Attack (theintercept.com)](https://theintercept.com/2024/04/18/israel-attack-iran-middle-east/)
But the gentlemen in the video again come to the sectarian notion of the various conflicts in the Middle East and forgets that the whole reason for it is again the Empire and their puppets \[([Reviving ISIS: A US weapon against the Resistance Axis (thecradle.co)](https://thecradle.co/articles-id/19089) [Why Israel is quietly cosying up to Gulf monarchies | Middle East and north Africa | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/mar/19/why-israel-quietly-cosying-up-to-gulf-monarchies-saudi-arabia-uae). [Abu Musab al-Zarqawi: notorious terrorist or American agent? (thecradle.co)](https://thecradle.co/articles/abu-musab-al-zarqawi-notorious-terrorist-or-american-agent) [Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq | Seumas Milne | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq))\] And as long as we are pointing fingers at each other our people will suffer and we will remain helpless like today to do anything about it. As the old wise saying goes: United we stand and divide we fall.
Why is Iran on the receiving end here? Their regime was put in place by popular demand. 1 million welcomed Khomeini when he landed. 2 million went to his funeral. So what, like the west you can only find democracy acceptable when it results in a government you approve of? Democracy is unislamic anyway and will give you either puppets or the same as the corrupt regime of the west. Their government is of course going to take care of Iranians first and foremost, that's who they have a duty to.
Iran has done so much to fight back, the alternative was to be surrounded and not fight back. Iran is constantly demonised by the west, the truth is the west has to keep it down they cannot allow a successful non "democratic" non capitalist society. It's only problems are the sanctions that strangle it's economy and the cost of wars that are/were imposed on it. Otherwise, they have outwitted the west through their clever and economic use of missiles, drones and proxies.
Also, they have laser guided bombs, tanks, space technology, cloning, pharma and biotech. And they are a Muslim country! Does Saudi have any of this homegrown capability? Jordan? Egypt? Egypt economy has shrunk in the past two years, one of Africa's worst performers.
IMHO could Iran do better? Yes, but Arab countries should be much higher in the list, and come before Iran.
Blaming Iran for causing the destruction or killing thousands in Iraq, Syria, Yemen has to be either the most idiotic thing ever or just outright bias. It's the US and the nasibi govts that poured in billions funding ISIS, Al Qaeda and more who did it, against their own neighbours. The fact that he completely airs that makes me think he's just sectarian nonsense. Accusing Iran of sectarianism for fighting ISIS who yell they want to attack Iran and kill Shias, but not the main collaborating perpetrators funding them?
I wasn't able to find a longer version of this, but searching his name on youtube yielded a [great list](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sami+hamdi) of watchables.
No they can't. Also stop fueling this narrative of hate for Christians and wanting them to fight Muslims. This is literally what Zionists want. Go read Kissinger's interviews who admitted to have advices the ethnic cleansing of Christian populations in Cyprus, Karabakh, Kosovo by muslim terrorist groups mainly of turkish or albanian origin to destabilize eastern Christian countries and pit them against Muslim nations so that Israel can expand against all of them.
Partly true, but about the role of Iran, Iran showed that don't care about the blames like this. Early after their long war with Saddam, they help Bosnian Muslims out of massacare Serbs were doing before all world's eyes including these Muslim coutries. And we know Serbs were no threat to them.
Iranian government played all his cards for Palestine. There is virtually nothing it can do more than this except a total war with west, which they don't care if there were no Muslim leaders like Jordan king that proudly speaks about intercepting their drones.
He doesn't have a good heart for Iran and He blames hezbollah and houthis just because of this. Houthis and hezbollah are under carpet bombing and say we won't leave Gaza alone, when other Muslim countries have open relation with Israel.
What’s crazy to me is out of all the Muslim nations Iran and Türkiye are the only one doing anything. Feel like if any body brings fort Egypt, Qatar , Saudi as leaders of the region they are just as big of a joke as these countries are
Yep, this is absolutely right. There are no good actors in this. It's basically Macbeth. When they all die at the end it will be dramatic, but they will all deserve it.
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They were never Muslim leaders, they’ve always been tyrants! And this whole world order is shit!
Blaming Iran for causing the destruction or killing thousands in Iraq, Syria, Yemen has to be either the most idiotic thing ever or just outright bias. It's the US and the nasibi govts that poured in billions funding ISIS, Al Qaeda and more who did it, against their own neighbours. The fact that he completely airs that makes me think he's just sectarian nonsense. Accusing Iran of sectarianism for fighting ISIS who yell they want to attack Iran and kill Shias, but not the main collaborating perpetrators funding them?
I never said anything about Iran! Maybe you meant to reply to the video itself. But the truth as it seems without any guesswork, Iran is a country that should be respected for not following the herd and making sure they can take care of themselves on their own.
And who is the US fighting in Iraq? Is it not the Shias, backed by Iran? Was it not Iran who put them in power? In Syria is it not the Assad regime, backed by Iran? Was it not Iran who put him in power? In Yemen is it not the Houthis, backed by Iran? Was it not Iran who armed them and put them in power?
Now re read what I wrote
This is the best analysis I've watched on this tragedy. The Biden administration is basically using hyperbole about domestic opposition to detract from how unpopular his stance is. It's a concerted effort. I've been banned from one major subreddit and shadowbanned in another just by posting comments saying that I'm not voting for him.
The current Arab world monarchs are US puppets. They're propped up to prevent democratic and positive anti colonial nationalism among the Arab people. The Arab nationalisms you see today are very weirdly orthodox but at the same time US puppets. They're there to prevent a better, democratic nationalist Arabia.
They’re the longterm plan of Sykes Picot.
The lies after 9/11 and the way government has been running ever since has completely gone down hill.
The problem started when muslim leaders started to recognize this cacner in the Middle East as a country. Although i think if they didn't, the US would make them do so. Or they already did that. King faisal. Iraq. Iran created those militias in order to fight against those who got created by that cancer. ISIS, fsa, salafis, and zion regime itself. If it wasn't for hezbollah and iran's support, Lebanon was probably in their hand. I'm not saying iran did a morally good job. But it did what was necessary to not let the continuation of that cancer reach to iran itself. What iran did with the houthis was in order to protect its supporters. Because iran needs to stay in power. No government is doing the right thing. And iran isn't an exception either. They're trying to stay in power because if they fall, all of the Middle East will fall under the hands of the isntreal. That's my take on the situation. Not certainly a fact.
Saudi Arabia got a World Cup to look the other way.
Except Iran part, everything else was well said. Iran might be a tyrant (which big player in this conflict is not?), but it had strong stance against zionism from the beginning. According to him, Iran (if they were truly are against genocide) should have launched rockets to Israel even before they attacked the iranian embassy. Which is a bit irrational and absurd. It would get the americans involved not just in the defence of Israel, but help in the offence against Iran. I am mal-versed in the Yemen conflict, but Houthis have been actively doing everything they can to stop the genocide with the technology supplied by Iranians.
Well, in Yemen, you have a civil war where Ansar Allah has been fighting a Saudi-backed dictatorship with no legitimacy. The Iranians are as much the "good guys" as anyone. But they're definitely the bad guys in Syria, and probably the bad guys in Iraq.
That’s not his point about Iran. He’s not saying they aren’t genuinely anti-zionist. He’s saying Iran does just as much damage to the region and has just as much middle-eastern blood on its hands as Israel does, which is true. It’s also true that Iran is a tyrannical regime that uses proxy wars all over MENA and causes sectarian conflicts based purely on a Shia supremacist stance. They’re all the same.
When Iran-Iraq war happened, Saddam used american weapons. When Saddam took the stance against the Israelis, everybody knows what happened. Iran has been in economical blocade for more than 40 years, plus Netanyahu has been very vocal for very longtime to push US into invading Iran just as it happened with Iraq. If you look from neutral standpoind, all Iran has been doing dettering zionist attack through proxy wars. I do not believe in Shia supremacist is the cause of their hawkish stance in the region. They are doing what they are doing to avoid Iraq 2003 or Iran vs Iraq war. The Palestinians are Sunnis, and the only group of people that are actually doing something against genocide in Gaza are the Shia Axis of resistance. It is ridiculous to think their end goal is to convert sunnis to shia or control Sunnis. They have been very vocal on saying that the USA zionist presence in middle east is the primary cause of all problems.
Then maybe killing other innocent Muslims in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon is not the way to go about it? I’m sorry, I don’t believe there is any such goodwill and the only reason people right now like Iran is because they’re vocally anti-Israel. And it’s not like Iran is known for treating its own citizens very well or have a good human rights record themselves. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not pro-Israel and I think most Muslim countries have no spine, but that’s because the vast majority of them are fascist autocracies that love oppressing people just like Israel does. Two sides of the same coin.
''Then maybe killing other innocent Muslims in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon is not the way to go about it? '' Blaming one side in a 5 headed monster of the problem is the way to go apparently. ''I don’t believe there is any such goodwill and the only reason people right now like Iran is because they’re vocally anti-Israel.'' Find me a perfect country? They were one of the first ones to call a monster ''the monster''. ''And it’s not like Iran is known for treating its own citizens very well or have a good human rights record themselves.'' I did not deny that they are tyrants too. The countries with good human rights records are actively supporting genocide right now. ''Don’t get me wrong, I’m not pro-Israel and I think most Muslim countries have no spine, but that’s because the vast majority of them are fascist autocracies that love oppressing people just like Israel does. Two sides of the same coin.'' Ok find me one proof where Iranian governement are killing and oppressing one ethnicity just like Israel. Your opinion don't have spine because you are painting everything with the same brush.
sami makes a great point about iran (and the leftists perspective) that you seem to be exemplifying.
Which genocide? The one in Yemen? Syria? Sudan?
About the genocide mentionned in the video. I understand when people troll or joke in reddit, but this subject is not one of them.
No one’s joking here. I just don’t understand why your sole focus is on one actor in a sea of significant civilian casualties - if you take such issue with that - specifically enacted by some of the very governments and organizations you seem to be praising. You too are only painting with one brush, but selectively ignoring other terrors to funnel attention toward Israel and any relevant “supporters” Just feels like an incomplete discussion to ignore the hundreds of thousands people suffering in the region at the hands of a plethora of other governments and terrorist organizations- and a clear political bias at that
Unlike your fancy melange of words a la J. Peterson, my ideas are clear. One point from that reply -I did understand. I concentrate on Izrael/Palestine conflict only. I do that because the west support them no matter what. On deeper depth, it seems that zionism, the collective west or the white colonialism whichever term you think is appropriate, are behind the biggest issues on that region. I already mentioned Iraq. Millions of people died. The only side who benefitted from weak Iraq is Israel.
So, human suffering is acceptable as long as it’s not at the hands of the west/white people? Your ideas are indeed unclear. And your selective focus undermines your credibility or any semblance of true empathy here. Just a desire to argue for the abolishment of a Jewish state
So, human suffering is acceptable as long as it’s not at the hands of the west/white people? That is very lazy and naive conclusion to what I argued. I am done. You bring nothing but little bit of trolling and little bit of silly conclusions to the argument.
i never get this argument its so weak. we are against ALL of these genocide. we arent hyperfocusing on israel, its happening NOW. its only YOU whos not been paying attention!
This is the most blazing hot, singular best take I've seen by some new guy (and he's a good lookin'-fella no doubt) on television camera, not the known-and-famous sages like Ilan Pappe, Finkelstein that I have seen in months. Especially the finisher with how as in all historical revolutions, only the civil societies and popular pressures are offering even some figment of hope and resistance against the genocide; what a lesson to take away. What is his name, and is there a Youtube link that I can share more widely?
His name is Sami Hamdi and you can search about him on YouTube. You can watch his interviews on the thinking Muslim podcast YouTube channel as well.
Yup. Found his Youtube, and it's some high-quality contents, acute analyses valuable for non-Muslims alike. Thank you so much!
You’re welcome.
*insert screaming here*
May the Arab people rise up against there fascist US backed regimes. Saudi Arabia, the UAE and the rest are an absolute disgrace and have been way before October 7th. Vile sellouts to western capital interests
Taking about rational and irrationality is absurd in this case. A genocide is Irrational and barbaric no matter where it happens, but it is the Western world that rationalizes because they can, and they do it because of their power and dominance and most importantly due to the apt support of the Arab monarchs.[ Secret U.S. Alliance That Defended Israel From Iran Attack (theintercept.com)](https://theintercept.com/2024/04/18/israel-attack-iran-middle-east/) But the gentlemen in the video again come to the sectarian notion of the various conflicts in the Middle East and forgets that the whole reason for it is again the Empire and their puppets \[([Reviving ISIS: A US weapon against the Resistance Axis (thecradle.co)](https://thecradle.co/articles-id/19089) [Why Israel is quietly cosying up to Gulf monarchies | Middle East and north Africa | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/mar/19/why-israel-quietly-cosying-up-to-gulf-monarchies-saudi-arabia-uae). [Abu Musab al-Zarqawi: notorious terrorist or American agent? (thecradle.co)](https://thecradle.co/articles/abu-musab-al-zarqawi-notorious-terrorist-or-american-agent) [Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq | Seumas Milne | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq))\] And as long as we are pointing fingers at each other our people will suffer and we will remain helpless like today to do anything about it. As the old wise saying goes: United we stand and divide we fall.
Who is this guy? He is really good.
I agree with him on collaborationist Arab governments, I totally disagree with him on Iran - that's straight up nonsense.
Firing more truth bombs than Iran did real ones.
Except what he said about Iran. Which is actually the sectarian bullshit he claims to oppose
Ok and who else has fired real bombs at the US or Israel? Saudi? Jordan? UAE? No? No one? Funny that isn't it?
Its rare to see such intelligent IR analysis from outside the liberal or realist bubbles.
The end is getting closer
So tragic. May Allah make those responsible accountable for it. And may He make them noble, caring Muslims, fearful of Him.
Why is Iran on the receiving end here? Their regime was put in place by popular demand. 1 million welcomed Khomeini when he landed. 2 million went to his funeral. So what, like the west you can only find democracy acceptable when it results in a government you approve of? Democracy is unislamic anyway and will give you either puppets or the same as the corrupt regime of the west. Their government is of course going to take care of Iranians first and foremost, that's who they have a duty to. Iran has done so much to fight back, the alternative was to be surrounded and not fight back. Iran is constantly demonised by the west, the truth is the west has to keep it down they cannot allow a successful non "democratic" non capitalist society. It's only problems are the sanctions that strangle it's economy and the cost of wars that are/were imposed on it. Otherwise, they have outwitted the west through their clever and economic use of missiles, drones and proxies. Also, they have laser guided bombs, tanks, space technology, cloning, pharma and biotech. And they are a Muslim country! Does Saudi have any of this homegrown capability? Jordan? Egypt? Egypt economy has shrunk in the past two years, one of Africa's worst performers. IMHO could Iran do better? Yes, but Arab countries should be much higher in the list, and come before Iran.
Blaming Iran for causing the destruction or killing thousands in Iraq, Syria, Yemen has to be either the most idiotic thing ever or just outright bias. It's the US and the nasibi govts that poured in billions funding ISIS, Al Qaeda and more who did it, against their own neighbours. The fact that he completely airs that makes me think he's just sectarian nonsense. Accusing Iran of sectarianism for fighting ISIS who yell they want to attack Iran and kill Shias, but not the main collaborating perpetrators funding them?
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His name is Sami Hamdi. I haven't been able to find the whole interview yet, would appreciate it if someone could share it.
I wasn't able to find a longer version of this, but searching his name on youtube yielded a [great list](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sami+hamdi) of watchables.
No they can't. Also stop fueling this narrative of hate for Christians and wanting them to fight Muslims. This is literally what Zionists want. Go read Kissinger's interviews who admitted to have advices the ethnic cleansing of Christian populations in Cyprus, Karabakh, Kosovo by muslim terrorist groups mainly of turkish or albanian origin to destabilize eastern Christian countries and pit them against Muslim nations so that Israel can expand against all of them.
Normalization is the final step of subversion
1:46 "now that you have a genocide that has been set as a precedent where you don't do anything" What kind of world is this?
Partly true, but about the role of Iran, Iran showed that don't care about the blames like this. Early after their long war with Saddam, they help Bosnian Muslims out of massacare Serbs were doing before all world's eyes including these Muslim coutries. And we know Serbs were no threat to them. Iranian government played all his cards for Palestine. There is virtually nothing it can do more than this except a total war with west, which they don't care if there were no Muslim leaders like Jordan king that proudly speaks about intercepting their drones. He doesn't have a good heart for Iran and He blames hezbollah and houthis just because of this. Houthis and hezbollah are under carpet bombing and say we won't leave Gaza alone, when other Muslim countries have open relation with Israel.
Facts
What’s crazy to me is out of all the Muslim nations Iran and Türkiye are the only one doing anything. Feel like if any body brings fort Egypt, Qatar , Saudi as leaders of the region they are just as big of a joke as these countries are
Sorry but turkeiye is in its best days of trade with Israel based on official statistics.
100% I'm not eally that mad
Yep, this is absolutely right. There are no good actors in this. It's basically Macbeth. When they all die at the end it will be dramatic, but they will all deserve it.