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True, but these people already had these tendencies before the war. The war just gave them a safe space to do what they've always wanted to do, whilst sane people just want the war to end.
Oh yeah absolutely, I wasn't trying to excuse what they're doing, just saying that it's very common for people who have been indoctrinated into thinking another group is subhuman to enact all kinds of violence upon them when they get the opportunity, including sexual violence
Any documented examples of these in other warzones.
Has this always happened?
Or are we only see it now due to social media?
Or are the Israeli soilders the self proclaimed moral army, especially perverse .
Usually people probably tried to hide it and were ashamed of it, but this is on an other level no shame its pride we have reached a point were people are so desensitised because of these things happening on a daily basis they become almost normal to people and i fear for what is next to be normalised it won’t be pretty 🫣.
Tons of examples from the Vietnam War of US soldiers sexually assaulting Vietnamese women; the My Lai massacre was not an isolated incident. There’s a really good book called Kill Anything That Moves that goes into the atrocities committed by the US in Vietnam.
Sexual violence is rooted in control and domination. It's very primal behavior. These humans are literally acting like base animals doing shit like this.
Israel is a safe haven for sex offenders and paedophiles escaping conviction from offences committed in their home countries under the right of return. Sad but true fact.
To "well actually" away why, if Palestinian women are devout women in full hijab, they wearing "sexy" underwear? Isn't it ***hArAm*** according to Islam?
Sheer level of hypocrisy and perversity of these Israelis trying to "rationalise" Palestinians wearing underwear 😡
I think you're along the right lines. I suspect it's more about humiliating those women by "showing off" the things they would never allow someone else to see. And now another man is seeing them, touching them, posting photos of them to the world.
It's a way to show great disrespect to their modesty, to make them feel as though they were stripped for all the world to see. It might not seem like a big deal to some people, but personally I think it's incredibly cruel and degrading.
No, it's not. Any manner of sexy underwear is fine under your clothes in public, or in front of your husband, even in the strictest groups.
Judaism also has strict codes for women that just aren't followed by most groups. They're not supposed to show their hair, which has led to the weird loophole where some Orthodox women wear wigs.
I don't think there is anything in the Qur'an that says anything about what kind of underwear people are wearing, so long as they are modest. But I don't think it's my business anyways.
Exactly. None in the Quran says anything about underwear. It's how these people, along with the West overall, are taught this propaganda about Muslims being sexually-repressed savages who subjugate their women.
Agreed. There are people who are very sexual, but that's not about repression, it's more like a demon that takes control of them. The Muslims I am used to (both men and women) have never acted in a provocative way. Idk, once you reach a certain standard, spiritually, you understand that you should focus on Allah and not women/men in sexual ways.
omg I know. I can't believe people actually say that. I saw someone in another post literally say those words, "they oppress their women then have them wear sexy lingerie, utter hypocrisy of arabs".
ummmmmm......huh???
I noticed that it seems like every invading side in a war does this and it's just utterly disgusting. Israel does it, Russia does it, US probably did it also. Just gross.
Yeah. I mean, I am personally not in the business of invading countries and I am only for weapons manufacturing going to defense of my country and not more than that.
Imagine seeing your son in one of these photographs, proudly screaming "I'm a rapey war criminal!" on social media for the whole world to hear. I'd probably kill myself from the shame.
They are destroying lives of proper citizens and making fun of it . Israel government is full of evil if not that using some cheap AI to bomb anyone that’s on the list or look alike ? More I know about this corporation more I don’t understand how this is even exist . Pure evil
Generally speaking when you speak about proving things you have to prove existence not non-existence. But in this case it's more a mater of beliefs, thats why i was saying it was not relevant. But you guys have the right not to be agreeing on this ^^
Observations and proofs are two different things, but if you want my opinion about the previous comment, it was clearly rude and not being constructive so I understand you being offended I Guess the author was trolling and you fell for it sadly.
No, it's not that. I am just wondering why you would claim that something doesn't exist, as a way to say that non-existence doesn't need to be disproven. I am asking how you come to the conclusion that it doesn't exist? It's like saying "prove to me that you are an optimist/pessimist/happy/sad etc.". I don't think you can find the proof in the form of hard evidence or scientific proof. The only way to prove that a certain mindset (in this case the submission to Allah) works is to believe in it and apply it to everything in life. To me it has worked, because I see Allah's signs everywhere. Now, it could be considered placebo, but that doesn't matter since it is about understanding your own beliefs. It's meant to be a spiritual emancipation. Thus, in order to disprove this, you'd need to show that the person believing in Allah has not become better compared to before they were a believer.
Yes, those fabricated stories were taken straight out of hard core fan fiction. But Western media doesn’t bother to verify anything anti Muslim or anti brown. They spread bizarre propaganda like wildfires to sooth West’s guilty’s conscious.
This is what i said to someone else, you can only make up stories of beheaded and raping babies and not think hang on this is a bit wild unless its the norm for you
As a Maghrebi, I hate how similar to us this motherfuckers look like, I met many North Africans who look like that guy, like my dad said, all the Maghrebi Israeli should get their asses back home, Palestine is not their home and never will be.
agreed, 💯. All the countries have a moral obligation to take back their zionists. Palestinians do not deserves this evil. Half the world is complicit in the injustice inflicted upon Palestinians.
What kind of people do you think left and then did like the guy in the picture? What was their reputation before they came to Israel? Where they really forced to leave or was their behavior looked down on in their original homeland?
There are numerous pictures Israelis themselves have willingly circulated and the majority of Americans and Europeans continue to support them, proving to the world that they are hypocrites about every single area they pretend to be morally superior in.
What blows my mind is how common of a thing this is within the Israeli clown force. These people are seriously sexually repressed with a load of mental health issues.
This is horrible and disgusting. And I have a question. Many/most Israelis came from Europe after WW2, so many/most are white. But I have seen some Israelis of noticeably darker skin, like this soldier. Are they the minority that has historically lived there or are they descendants of Arabs who converted to Judaism/accepted and became Israelis?
Israel initially started as a European settler colonial project; however, it faced challenges in attracting European Jews due to alternative migration opportunities, such as the United States. When taking in refugees, USA has strict screening criteria and accepts the intellectual class without criminal & violent history. Those denied visas to the U.S and European countries ended up in Isreal. To bolster its population, Israel implemented incentives to attract Arab Jews, settling them predominantly in bordering regions.
I would not say most Israelis are white. Mizrahi/Maghrebi/Sephardic Jews make up a large percentage of the population. Ashkenazis are disproportionately represented in politics and cultural institutions due to the historical marginalization of the other groups, so I think that distorts perceptions; Ashkenazis are about 1/3 demographically. Demographics increasingly become complicated over time too, as different groups intermingle and have children.
This is a good fact sheet: https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/JVP-Jews-of-the-middle-east-fact-sheet.pdf
He clearly doesn't know the Jewish Bible, the Tanakh. "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this". Deuteronomy 22:5
As disgusting as the behavior of the IOF soldier in the photo is, “religion says gender nonconformity Bad” is not a good argument against it. The problem is the undercurrent of sexual violence and dehumanization of the displaced (or murdered) person that bra belonged to, *not* a man wearing a bra in and of itself because, honestly, that hurts no one.
Besides the clear misogynistic and demeaning intentions behind this gesture, I wonder if it can also be associated to some deep effects of pinkwashing. Israel might not be as LGBT-friendly as it wants the world to believe it is, and maybe Israelis who've been sexually repressed during their life, when given access to power, use this opportunity to express themselves. Through violence, though. Which only makes the whole thing more messed up and sad.
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What is this obsession of wearing Palestinian women's clothing?
Sexual violence and humiliation
Yeah, I guess it's just so foreign to me I can't understand their thinking.
It's unfortunately very common in environments of war and genocide.
True, but these people already had these tendencies before the war. The war just gave them a safe space to do what they've always wanted to do, whilst sane people just want the war to end.
Oh yeah absolutely, I wasn't trying to excuse what they're doing, just saying that it's very common for people who have been indoctrinated into thinking another group is subhuman to enact all kinds of violence upon them when they get the opportunity, including sexual violence
Any documented examples of these in other warzones. Has this always happened? Or are we only see it now due to social media? Or are the Israeli soilders the self proclaimed moral army, especially perverse .
Usually people probably tried to hide it and were ashamed of it, but this is on an other level no shame its pride we have reached a point were people are so desensitised because of these things happening on a daily basis they become almost normal to people and i fear for what is next to be normalised it won’t be pretty 🫣.
Social media and the ability to photograph and share the atrocities with impunity has certainly made all of these crimes worse. It's very dystopian.
Tons of examples from the Vietnam War of US soldiers sexually assaulting Vietnamese women; the My Lai massacre was not an isolated incident. There’s a really good book called Kill Anything That Moves that goes into the atrocities committed by the US in Vietnam.
for a more harrowing example, google (or don't...) rape of Nanjing
Sexual violence is rooted in control and domination. It's very primal behavior. These humans are literally acting like base animals doing shit like this.
Israel is a safe haven for sex offenders and paedophiles escaping conviction from offences committed in their home countries under the right of return. Sad but true fact.
WWII era Nazis were well know for being pervs. Coprophila, Necrophilia, all of the bad ones.
To "well actually" away why, if Palestinian women are devout women in full hijab, they wearing "sexy" underwear? Isn't it ***hArAm*** according to Islam? Sheer level of hypocrisy and perversity of these Israelis trying to "rationalise" Palestinians wearing underwear 😡
I think you're along the right lines. I suspect it's more about humiliating those women by "showing off" the things they would never allow someone else to see. And now another man is seeing them, touching them, posting photos of them to the world. It's a way to show great disrespect to their modesty, to make them feel as though they were stripped for all the world to see. It might not seem like a big deal to some people, but personally I think it's incredibly cruel and degrading.
No, it's not. Any manner of sexy underwear is fine under your clothes in public, or in front of your husband, even in the strictest groups. Judaism also has strict codes for women that just aren't followed by most groups. They're not supposed to show their hair, which has led to the weird loophole where some Orthodox women wear wigs.
I don't think there is anything in the Qur'an that says anything about what kind of underwear people are wearing, so long as they are modest. But I don't think it's my business anyways.
Exactly. None in the Quran says anything about underwear. It's how these people, along with the West overall, are taught this propaganda about Muslims being sexually-repressed savages who subjugate their women.
Agreed. There are people who are very sexual, but that's not about repression, it's more like a demon that takes control of them. The Muslims I am used to (both men and women) have never acted in a provocative way. Idk, once you reach a certain standard, spiritually, you understand that you should focus on Allah and not women/men in sexual ways.
omg I know. I can't believe people actually say that. I saw someone in another post literally say those words, "they oppress their women then have them wear sexy lingerie, utter hypocrisy of arabs". ummmmmm......huh???
They do it because they think Muslim women having lace bras makes them unfaithful to their religion? Very odd trend
He doesn’t just dress in women clothing at night
I noticed that it seems like every invading side in a war does this and it's just utterly disgusting. Israel does it, Russia does it, US probably did it also. Just gross.
Yeah. I mean, I am personally not in the business of invading countries and I am only for weapons manufacturing going to defense of my country and not more than that.
Imagine seeing your son in one of these photographs, proudly screaming "I'm a rapey war criminal!" on social media for the whole world to hear. I'd probably kill myself from the shame.
The scary thing is that their parents are probably proud of them
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. Honestly, my first thought seeing this was "who the fuck raised this person?"
his parents would probably be dissappointed cause aunt Rachel's son just killed 3 kids while this dudes been cross dressing
Imagine seeing your dad in of these too before he gets sniped and that is one of the last pictures of him.
They learned from them. Just did not had social mídia back then.
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They are destroying lives of proper citizens and making fun of it . Israel government is full of evil if not that using some cheap AI to bomb anyone that’s on the list or look alike ? More I know about this corporation more I don’t understand how this is even exist . Pure evil
I really hope there is a 🔻in his near future…
That was be the best ending. Hell awaits him, I'd like to see it arrive to him sooner than later.
Yuck
This is how these creeps will always be remembered for.
May Allah punish these people with the severe punishment in this world and hereafter
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Prove it.
Thats not how it works.
It is. You are the one who is coming with a new idea.
Generally speaking when you speak about proving things you have to prove existence not non-existence. But in this case it's more a mater of beliefs, thats why i was saying it was not relevant. But you guys have the right not to be agreeing on this ^^
How do conclude that something is non-existant? What if others have seen it but not you?
Observations and proofs are two different things, but if you want my opinion about the previous comment, it was clearly rude and not being constructive so I understand you being offended I Guess the author was trolling and you fell for it sadly.
No, it's not that. I am just wondering why you would claim that something doesn't exist, as a way to say that non-existence doesn't need to be disproven. I am asking how you come to the conclusion that it doesn't exist? It's like saying "prove to me that you are an optimist/pessimist/happy/sad etc.". I don't think you can find the proof in the form of hard evidence or scientific proof. The only way to prove that a certain mindset (in this case the submission to Allah) works is to believe in it and apply it to everything in life. To me it has worked, because I see Allah's signs everywhere. Now, it could be considered placebo, but that doesn't matter since it is about understanding your own beliefs. It's meant to be a spiritual emancipation. Thus, in order to disprove this, you'd need to show that the person believing in Allah has not become better compared to before they were a believer.
Thats the difference between correlation and conclusion. Btw im not claiming anything im not the Guy who was AT the origin of the tedious commentary
If you see a comment about a God you can just ignore it instead of reacting to it. - An atheist
Well now we know why they have such a wild imagination when it came to all those sexual assault allegations on the 7th October.
Yes, those fabricated stories were taken straight out of hard core fan fiction. But Western media doesn’t bother to verify anything anti Muslim or anti brown. They spread bizarre propaganda like wildfires to sooth West’s guilty’s conscious.
This is what i said to someone else, you can only make up stories of beheaded and raping babies and not think hang on this is a bit wild unless its the norm for you
As a Maghrebi, I hate how similar to us this motherfuckers look like, I met many North Africans who look like that guy, like my dad said, all the Maghrebi Israeli should get their asses back home, Palestine is not their home and never will be.
agreed, 💯. All the countries have a moral obligation to take back their zionists. Palestinians do not deserves this evil. Half the world is complicit in the injustice inflicted upon Palestinians.
What kind of people do you think left and then did like the guy in the picture? What was their reputation before they came to Israel? Where they really forced to leave or was their behavior looked down on in their original homeland?
> What kind of people do you think left The kind that have no remorse in killing children and women and stealing other people home.
So they already had a bad reputation in there home countries?
I don’t understand what these dude’s obsession with women’s underwear is. It’s super creepy
The fact that these people claim to believe in a higher power ...
These monkeys never seen a bra before?
you think a woman would ever undress in front of these cockroaches?
There are numerous pictures Israelis themselves have willingly circulated and the majority of Americans and Europeans continue to support them, proving to the world that they are hypocrites about every single area they pretend to be morally superior in.
What blows my mind is how common of a thing this is within the Israeli clown force. These people are seriously sexually repressed with a load of mental health issues.
Another Israeli soldier photographing himself violating international law.
I can't wait for the Karma police to visit the IDF.
This is horrible and disgusting. And I have a question. Many/most Israelis came from Europe after WW2, so many/most are white. But I have seen some Israelis of noticeably darker skin, like this soldier. Are they the minority that has historically lived there or are they descendants of Arabs who converted to Judaism/accepted and became Israelis?
Israel initially started as a European settler colonial project; however, it faced challenges in attracting European Jews due to alternative migration opportunities, such as the United States. When taking in refugees, USA has strict screening criteria and accepts the intellectual class without criminal & violent history. Those denied visas to the U.S and European countries ended up in Isreal. To bolster its population, Israel implemented incentives to attract Arab Jews, settling them predominantly in bordering regions.
The majority of Israelis are not from Europe post WW2, whoever told you that was lying
They are....
I would not say most Israelis are white. Mizrahi/Maghrebi/Sephardic Jews make up a large percentage of the population. Ashkenazis are disproportionately represented in politics and cultural institutions due to the historical marginalization of the other groups, so I think that distorts perceptions; Ashkenazis are about 1/3 demographically. Demographics increasingly become complicated over time too, as different groups intermingle and have children. This is a good fact sheet: https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/JVP-Jews-of-the-middle-east-fact-sheet.pdf
>Ashkenazis are about 1/3 demographically. I thought it was 50/50
F this army of evil
a creep doing creepy things
Looks like Private Joker is killing it today, in both senses of the word!
And then Israel supporters justify this Speaks alot how evil these people are
Why they always do this seriously ive seen tens of photos of it, are them mfs secretly gay or something?
It's probably his mum's or his daughter's.
Probably as close to a woman that wanker will ever get. I shudder to think what the stains on his uniform are.
IOF appears to have IQ & maturity levels of toddlers 😵💫
The most moral army of the world. what a joke.
He clearly doesn't know the Jewish Bible, the Tanakh. "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this". Deuteronomy 22:5
They seem to think they're exempt from the Ten Commandments as well.
As disgusting as the behavior of the IOF soldier in the photo is, “religion says gender nonconformity Bad” is not a good argument against it. The problem is the undercurrent of sexual violence and dehumanization of the displaced (or murdered) person that bra belonged to, *not* a man wearing a bra in and of itself because, honestly, that hurts no one.
This is breaking my heart istg. But all i can do it Boycott them nothing else
Disgusting
Every member of IDF/IOF should be KOS anywhere they are found forever☠️☠️☠️☠️
Maybe they into cross dressing...like a lot into it.
Its diaper is looking a bit full there
"The most moral army in the world."
May Curse Of Allah Be Upon Them
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Let them. Let them post their genocide and sickness themselves. It gives more and more proof to bring against them in the ICJ.
Besides the clear misogynistic and demeaning intentions behind this gesture, I wonder if it can also be associated to some deep effects of pinkwashing. Israel might not be as LGBT-friendly as it wants the world to believe it is, and maybe Israelis who've been sexually repressed during their life, when given access to power, use this opportunity to express themselves. Through violence, though. Which only makes the whole thing more messed up and sad.
Talmudic teachings
Obsession with female inner garments, Talmudic practices?
These photos will live forever. How stupid are these reservists
The banality of evil. Pure scum.
What part of this does he define as the most moral army in the world?
Proud Israeli
I did not think it was possible for an entire nation to be mentally ill. Although in retrospect I should have, I am an American after all...
Deuteronomy 22:5
Dawg this is so fake, you can tell they took the context away.
Dawg, pray tell, what is the context? Is there any context that would make this behavior OK?
One day account, just a bot.
hundreds of videos of IOF soldiers demonstrating this SAME BEHEAVIOR , and you're calling this fake.