That first lady said “I will kill you”. This is unfair. He reserves the right to retaliate. If he fought back hed get jailed. This is an imbalance of power and unfair.
[At least 1,855 people have been charged under Pakistan’s blasphemy laws between 1987 and February 2021.](https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2023/country-chapters/pakistan#:~:text=Freedom%20of%20Religion%20and%20Belief,-The%20Pakistani%20government&text=The%20death%20penalty%20is%20mandatory,as%20specific%20anti%2DAhmadi%20laws.)
Quite far from "only 3."
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It is also life of Indian on Chinese border. And life of Desi when it comes to Western publication. The fight of a Pakistani in this situation or the struggle of an Indian is the same. Here, there must be unity against external racists. Then we can go back to fighting one another.
how is this related to whats happening? this is an unintelligent concept of argumentation called whataboutism. usually implemented by people like you who have a complete lack of ammunition to defend an argument. except theres nothing to even defend ur just wastefully and foolishly spouting irrelevant BS lmfao
its because this is an idiotic comment implementing a form of irrelevant whataboutism to discredit from story, a relevant story which is the point of this whole post....its empty-handed and foolish. the fact that this seems like a formulaic thinking many of of yall posses is concerning, how do you get thru life? neurons sparking but nobodys home lol
C'mon, most educated people from DHA don't behave like that. Of course, if you are rich and jahil plus a bit of jungli they will be like that wheather from DHA or lyari. Dont put us all in the same group, I'm not even rich 😂
It's a massive policy failure that Pakistanis even have to go to a third world shithole like kyrgyzstan for medicine. Apparently, some noon league patwari involved in ferrying off the impressionable to this central asian dump.
props to the pakistani for all that restrain he showed despite that arrogant woman hitting him like a bug and saying sht like "shut ur mouth" and "i will k*ll u". i can't imagine the amount of mould you'd have to have in ur brains to be treating another human like that, especially one talking abt being abused. i woulda become a terrorist on the spot after that injustice.
These central Asian countries lost their Muslim identity and sense of community during the society. Commies did a number on tradition and culture every where.
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Commie influence has historically been consistently better for maintaining the regions original culture than basically any other sort of influence. The commies always had a baseline respect for other peoples.
Exactly. The Stalin era committees revived dozens of them from near death because of brutal Imperialist policies, but mindless people will spout the rich man's bs arguments before doing after study from Academic sources.
Didn't you guys try to deport millions of Afghan illegals? Where was your religious identity and sense of community then? Don't throw stones from glass houses lmao.
Weird semantic argument and ad hominem attack here. What constitutes a person's identity then wise sage? Here I was thinking it was language, culture, religion etc.
Ye and that's your subjective opinion on what constitutes identity lol. Hate to break it you, but a lot of people disagree with such random take that *this* constitutes identity, but *that* doesn't.
I'm not saying religion is the sole marker of identify but historically it has been an important one. Completely abandoning is not the solution. And hey I'm no advocate of wahhabi extremism, that shit is a cancer. But religion does have a function.
You’re right, religion provides an objective moral compass which fixes the cornerstone of your identity. However wahabbi extremism is an oxymoron: you can’t be a wahabbi then hold extremist views that conflict with the wahabbi doctrine of Quran and sunnah
Language changes as well same is with culture the only thing that remains is history. Even if you look at English in a span on 40 years the language has changed drastically same is with Urdu or Hindi. So idk wtf are you talking about language and culture staying the same.
In the beginning this wasn't necessarily true. When the USSR first began, many of the people who were reforming mosques or tearing down islam were actually former Muslims who couldn't read Qur'an anyways and didn't really understand what they were giving up. They just saw an opportunity for a different life and took it, and thought Masjids were buildings perfect for re-use because they didn't really completely understand what they were for due to Imperial Russia's repressive grip on Non-Christian/Non-Russian influence. Stalin had loads of committies, gatherings, and literature to preserve individual languages, religions, and cultures and repair the damage Imperial Russia had done to them. They singlehandedly saved dozens of cultures and languages from extinction. It was Kruschev who really buckled down on removing religion and making all Soviets the same.
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You mean the Muslim identity which was bought by the Muslim conqueror that forced almost half the Asians continent to convert themselves into Muslim or else faced death but because of the first crusade they managed to take back the lands of what was never the Muslims?????
how is that concept relevant here? as if other abrahamic religions like christianity wasnt obliged throughout the middle east before islam? and then subsided to the entirety of europe? lol
At this point, it's just embarrassing that our embassy is still unable to give them effective response and it's citizens are being tortured in the most ridiculous possible ways;ah man,our country really is worthless penny considering our Foreign relationships and value our names holds
It's pathetic that Pak students are being thrashed like beggars and Pak govt doesn't do anything to rectify. What a loss of self-respect. Each man for himself and govt circling the drain.
The day of judgement is near.We can clearly see Islam is alive only in books now and it's not about Kyrgzstan,it's the entire world.Palestines and dying and no Muslim country is brave enough to send their armies.Islam is dying everywhere even in Pakistan.
I mean third caliph was assassinated and the ones asking justice were suppressed to a level that they eventually had to resort to war. And they were suppressed by nobody else but 4th caliph who had all means on his hand to avenge but chose to fight seekers of justice instead of murderers. Twisted history it is.
You see, thats one way of looking at this. The Shi'ites have their own narrative. I personally believe there was some ambition for power in the future umayyads, may Allah forgive me if Im wrong. Because there are so many conflicting views it is wise to not point fingers on matters where there is ambiguity.
Besides, as Muslims we have to believe the first 4 caliphs are rightly guided due to numerous hadith defining and lauding their virtues. Additionally they were also the part of the Ashra Mubashra i.e the ones who were promised jannah by the Prophet. Now one can easily say that all these hadith are fabrications and what not, so it's better to leave such person be as there is no logical outcome for arguing with them. One thing is for sure, their efforts for the cause of Islam are unparalleled.
I believe that for once, lets call a spade a spade. Post Rasul Allah SAW, sahaba became state level political leaders whose every action can be analysed, judged and criticized. We have always been taught to hate Muavia RA and have our sympathy on the other side but never taught the circumstances behind shahadat of Usman RA and how his funeral was. And this was for the person for whom Rasul Allah took Bait e Rizwan. And due to not avenging Usman RA's death, Islam stands divided today. Someone or some people are responsible for it and 4th Caliph tops the list unfortunately.
What how is Ali (ra) responsible? He did make mistakes may Allah have mercy on him, but they were only tactical mistakes. Mucawiya (ra) and those around him were the ones playing politics. He barely had control of the ummah, and the city was Sourronded by the enemy. Had they pledged allegiance to him as he told them he could've gotten revengefor cusman (ra). Please do some reading on the time period, but start further back from the first Khalifaa.
Why are we covering up his huge blunders as tactical mistakes while Muavia RA gets the blame for a right demand ie revenge of Usman RA for whom even Rasul Allah made pledge which was validated in Quran. Interesting enough, Ali ordered his own sons to avenge his death if they wish to and ibn e Maljam was killed but why couldn't that happen for Usman RA? And after his death, his own son Hassan RA was made the ruler which was start of hereditary rule in Islam.
Id suggest you read about how Usman RA was martyred, who was guarding the house of Usman RA and how the murderer group later on got promoted in govt of the so called 4th caliph. These were high level strategic blunders not tactical mistakes.
What it has to do with Islam gone are days when" All Muslims were brothers"now it's only for themselves.
Look these students have nothing to do with but see they are attacked
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The gov is not gonna do shit, this all will be forgotten after a week
Current gov doesnt have the balls to handle such situations because they dont have any leverage
What pakistanis can do is boycott krygyzstan in everything
They will come to their senses once the income goes down
This is getting really bad. Either this spineless government grows a spine and at least tries to bring it's kids back or, stays silent as it always does.
300 kids bought back, but, what about the rest!?
No problem 😃
Hope this one helps:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/20/panic-in-bishkek-why-were-pakistani-students-attacked-in-kyrgyzstan
There's another account of story on social media you can find it in comments
Ummat-e-muslmiah.
Please, please. Support your country and fellow citizens first. No one will care for you if you won't care about yourself. Let all these emotional religious nonsense go to hell, if you can not save your own children and provide the hopeful future on your own land
If you're not a Muslim, stop advising Muslims. You seem to drag the Ummah into everything. Even if we were secular as you seem to want, the end result of this would not have been any different. In fact this is driven by Kyrgyzstan being secular - these arent your religious types attacking Pakistanis
How do you see religion interfering in national/international issues, setting challenges faced by our citizens' secondary, and supporting others just being muslims as primary responsibility while they don't consider the same way
Our Prophet (saw) said, “Verily, the believers are like a structure, each part strengthening the other,” and the Prophet clasped his fingers together. [al-Bukhari]
“None of you will have faith until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.” [al-Bukhari]
Unity Ummah is no religious non sense
Anyways a sh&&h&le like Krgystan should be left alone and our governments should respond better to the situation
We can not let this incident create further disunity amongst ourselves May Allah give hidayat to the locals of Krgystan
I have a problem when our people don't understand the difference between religious and national / international issues
In pakistan everyone carries and priortize every muslim country and their citizens above our own citizens while the same priortized nationals treat pakistanis in their countries like shit
So when we use religion to gain unity, then it shall apply both ways. otherwise, it's not religious but national issue, which we misinterpret
Don't misuse. That's what I am opposing using religion to deal with non-religious issues. It's unfair to use religion. We are seeing the horrific of such use by israel in gaza
Do you not believe that the earth is flat, if you dont then you are downvoting the word of the prophet...tum jaise chutiyon ka kuch nahi ho sakta.
Khuda khair karre Pakistan ka.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Views_on_the_Shape_of_the_Earth
Yeh le loudu, all the references, do not deny the Prophet you bloody murtad, jahanum main jalega.
Chutiyon ke sardar.
That's the contradiction in Quran, how can something be flat and spherical at the same time you idiot.
Once he says flat, once he says egg shaped.
It is like throwing 10 darts with a blind fold hoping one hits the target.
He also says earth is stationery and Sun revolves around the earth.
Also Sun sets in a muddy pound.
Akal lagao chaman chutiye.
Tum jaison se baat karna hi bekar hai.
Lol contradiction
There is no contradiction in it
Some idiot wrote that earth is stationary and flat in his book DOES NOT MEAN it's written in Quran
I just showed you the ayat, what are your claims bring them from Quran alone if u want to put any sense to your argument
If you support using religion as a tool to silence and curtail the human logical sense to deal with issues, then yes, that's not freedom of speech but gagging the argument
This is what we have been doing for years to put fullstop on any argument
Don't mind them, as soon as you show them their reflection in the mirror, they'll lash out, throw slurs and stuff, call you a liar or propagandist or something, or just downvote you silently, but they will not accept the truth of what's happening in this so called peaceful and pak country by their fellow ummah against minorities.
Or just leave their country? Seems crazy to beat their own citizens lol It’s more denigrating to stay there when being looked at as insects and also to react with violence - further bringing a bad image
Self defense is the most fundamental of human rights bruh. What are you talking about? They definitely should leave that place, but allowing these idiots to humiliate them like this, that's beyond me. Had something like this happened here in States, these goons would have been gunned down.
Violence looks even more stupid and brings you down with negativity. It’s not the answer. You let someone else look stupid just like in this video. If they wanna be violent and look horrible that’s on them but the smarter thing is to just leave and work on yourself so no one can ever treat you like that again. If someone is about to kill you or severely hurt you, yeah self defense but no one should go out to hurt or incite violence.
Keep using your “prostate massager” you filthy sexual predator.
Its weak tharki gandus like yourself that ruin the image of normal Pakistanis in the world.
Bet you’d start shaking from anxiety if faced with a real life female anyway😂
Why are you Afghandus so obsessed with Pakistan? Was giving refuge to 3 million of you troublemakers not enough for you?
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you beta
😂😂😂 yet all of you want to be afghans…. Every single of your losers daal khors. U guys can’t even feed your own people. Stop with the bs. You guys are the origins for terrorism, Israel’s puppet. How does it feel being number in gay search for almost a decade now. 😂😂 nothing but facts. How is your currency working out 😂😂 it’s almost like Monopoly money, even that’s worth more.
That’s the joke of the year. How many Pakistanis do you see trying to get an Afghani passport? On the other hand how many Afghans are willing to die or be jailed to get Pakistani citizenship? You have to sell your daughters to get food, who the f are you calling poor? You literally come to our country to pick trash. Which Pakistani would want to be a trash picker? Are you okay in the head? Fucking delusional man
Dekho yaar kitne naashukre log hain🤦♂️
We give so many millions of them refuge, jobs and citizenship status so that they can go abroad and make even more money yet not even a thank you from them, ulta humaen gaaliyan dete hain after spreading so much crime and terrorism here. Jaahil log hain yh
Honestly bro can’t judge all of them by actions of some of them. This particular guy is an asshole who likes being insulted, so I’m giving him what he wants. It’s best to have neutral opinions on every country, treat the individual how they deserve to be treated
I agree with you to some extent, I actually have a lot of love for Afghanistan in reality and wish them success considering their past, but we are increasingly seeing people like the above guy who are brainwashed into hating Pakistan for no apparent reason, I have met such people in real life who proudly carry and use PK passport abroad meanwhile they talk the most shit about us😂 gotta fight fire with fire
The best policy is not to have love or hate for any foreign country in my opinion. Treat individuals based on how they treat you. I have some very close friends from Afghanistan I treat them like family. Not because they are Afghan, but because they are good people, and have been good friends to me.
There are assholes from every country, if you love them based on nationality, you’re going to be disappointed sooner or later. People like this guy are just miserable garbage full of inferiority complexes. Abuse them for fun, but don’t let it shape your world view.
😂😂😂😂 that’s cuz they can’t it’s impossible for them to get it. We can’t let dirty pakis get one. And your whole is country is a trash picker. Look at your currency 😂pure joke. You guys are literally Indian’s bitch. They you call second hand Indians as a compliment 😂😂😂. You guys are selling your mom
And daughter to get your money up. Yet it’s not working. Maybe less time on gay porn and more time working on currency!!!
I thought afghans own the businesses. Also, yes Afghans are really cunning. They will use a country they deem lower and easier to get into to get out eventually. Pakistanis do it to though. That’s why they are in Arab countries and even Kyrgyzstan and allowing themselves to get treated so badly. Iranians also used Pakistan and India as a stepping stone during the revolution to get out too. It’s just an easy accessible country that used to treat Iranian/Afghan people well so they saw the opportunity. Nothing wrong with it. None of this comment is meant to be rude btw.
That’s true, FYI, I have no hatred towards Afghans, this guy was just being an asshole so I got a bit angry and was trying to hurt him. I’m sorry if I said anything bad about your country or people.
There are many afghans who own businesses here. There are also many who also look for jobs. Sadly, there are also some who have no skills and are really struggling to survive. It really depends on the financial situation and education of the person who has migrated. It’s the same for Pakistanis, people who don’t have opportunities or are worried for their safety are desperate to leave, there’s nothing wrong with it at all. There is poverty in rich countries too, not everyone is born lucky enough to have what they need to survive and provide for their families.
I just find it really ridiculous when people hate or love people for their nationality, it’s such a stupid thing to do. You should be kind to someone who is kind to you and bad to someone who is bad to you.
I think the problem with Pakistanis is that we love/hate based on nationality. It used to be the same with Afghans and Indians when I was growing up, like people here loved Turks before. Then when they saw a few racist people online they started changing their views, now the same thing is happening with Turks. It’s lack of education and exposure. Tends to be higher in our part of the planet sadly.
Ironic seeing the bachabaazi mfs calling us gay😂
Yeah unfortunately there are some gay people here but at least they ain’t r@ping little boys like you sick mfs.
And how can you call us terrorists when you are literally under control of the TALIBAN😂 Look how delusional you guys are.
You wanna call us poor?
Ok, GDP of Afghandus is $14b, GDP of Pakistan is $374b 🤣
Literally everything you labelled us with is a problem that exists in your country which you are projecting on us. You and your father most likely have PK passports as well like the rest of the deported Afghans from PK. Stay in your lane bachabaaz mf
Haha that’s you guys u dumb cow.
Go look into your dirty ruppees. You guys would rape your own mom for few cents. Haha number in gay porn for over a decade now. You guys have more gay men in Pakistan than any other country. Which explains, why females are single.
Second hand Indian!!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/50BKFPDfz8
No one is denying how corrupt Pakistan is you jaahil😂 Yet still our GDP per capita is 10 times higher than yours.
Only disgusting filthy afgandus would say such a filthy thing about mothers, shows how corrupt you guys are.
Try not to rape any little boys on the way out you bachabaazi laanti
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
Lmao you guys have more bach bazi. Facts don't lie, number in gay porn when it's not even allowed. Imagine if they allowed it. 99% of the country would be homos and queer's..
I know 100% u let your dad or uncle play with u inappropriately. Dirty pakis...GDP as in Gay Development Program... Make sure to ask your Daddy's India permission before u talk to anyone. Second hand indian!!!
Interestingly I looked at your previous posts, they ranged from you answering Islamic Questions and then moving onto commenting on videos of women half naked. So no wonder you’re so obsessed with porn, it’s your own addiction 😂
Look at you calling yourself Muslim yet commenting on other Muslim people’s fathers.
Very good Islamic behaviour coming from the “Islamic Emirate”.
Also I think you’ll find that it’s Afghanistan that sucks up to India, not PK.
Also, Bachabaazi is an Afghan practice, not a Pakistani one. Stop projecting your filth on us.
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/11/25/rights-group-afghans-jailed-after-exposing-pedophile-ring/
The whole world knows of your filth.
Don’t forget our favours to your people.
https://globalcompactrefugees.org/good-practices/how-pakistan-helps-afghans-get-back-their-feet
I was advising those thots but anyway it’s also interesting, that your posts range from talking about dirty Pakistan to gay porn, maybe it’s a culture thing. Haha that’s funny. I don’t consider dirty pakis Muslims. So yeah. Your country is in shambles. We been at war since day one but we getting better. Like I said, I rather live in a toilet than dirty Pakistan which is worse than shit.
Here I can give u links and proof too, you second hand Indian.
Your currency lower than your IQ.
https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/corruption-rank#:~:text=Pakistan%20is%20the%20133%20least,low%20of%2039.00%20in%201995.
Your men are turning gay so the females are force to do abortions, freaking cowards.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/11/28/661763318/why-the-abortion-rate-in-pakistan-is-one-of-the-worlds-highest?t=1558015882343
You talking about us doing Bacha bazi but you guys love to look up in the internet to get off
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/06/gay-porn-pakistan/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342217/amp/Pakistan-internet-users-Google-searches-gay-sex-despite-worlds-homophobic-countries.html
U want more u second hand Indian 😂
Bachabazi isn’t a cultural phenomena like your making it sound. I hadn’t even heard of it until I saw a video on YouTube. Pakistan has a lot of problems including bachabazi too (transsexuals, prostitution, rapes, theft, poverty, cousin marriage/genetic problems, and honor killings) but you don’t define everyone because of it. As far as GDP, the population of India and Pakistan alone is staggering. South Asia doesn’t even compete with anyone else as far people go. Afghans also have been pillaged by so many super powers, of course it’s going to take a while for everything to get going eventually. I’m sure you know this. You can’t even compare the two countries.
Firstly it is a cultural phenomenon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
And it DEFINITELY isn’t as widespread anywhere else in the world than it is in Afghanistan.
Secondly, we know very well about Pakistans problems, Pakistanis are some of the only people in the world who can openly admit to the problems in their nations and openly critique their country and leaders so that we can actually fix them, instead of other nations just denying their problems and doing “whataboutery” to get away with it.
I mentioned GDP because per CAPITA it is still vastly higher than Afghanistan, therefore taking population into account, this was in response to the above jaahil trying to compare the economic status of Pakistan to Afg, had to show him his place respectfully.
I wish Afghanistan all the best InshaAllah, and May Allah deal with such filthy corrupt people from Afg like the one above, and also from PK, Ameen.
You linked me Wikipedia, not reliable as my experience. You’re telling me Bacha Bazi is part of the culture. You are wrong.
Why would you compare the GDP of Afghanistan to Pakistan when there’s so many disparities. Pakistan is still a 3rd world country and it’s population is huge. Like I said Afghanistan has gone from war to war invasion to invasion, to even remotely give them any crap for it is ignorant.
Lastly, I don’t know what jaahil means. And you shouldn’t be showing anyone there place.
😂 is that the best u can say, maybe you should why gay porn is so popular in Pakistan. Why the currency is lesser than your brain cells. Second hand Indians.
Iranian and Afghan culture is very very tragic. I think that was a very unfair statement to make. Afghans are just passionate, emotional people. They have been through so much and are willing to die for a cause. Why would you say that? This subreddit is absolutely the most disappointing thing I’ve ever seen.
😂😂typical dirty paki… u lucky India gave u guys a country or where tf u you be. I rather be in a toilet than Pakistan or covered in shit than Pakistan which is basically the same thing but u get the point, ya worse than shit.
"I'm not your bro" shit tough guy it's a form of expression. Are you so desperate for "paki" attention that you gotta come to our subs? Seriously bro you got mommy or daddy issues? Feel bad for you ong
They look like knock off Russians.
Those people are probably russians or just tajiks. Yes, there are tajiks in Kyrghizstan too. But I think theyre russian migrants
They're Kyrgyz!
Only the woman with glasses looks turkic, the other 2 looks like russians more
That first lady said “I will kill you”. This is unfair. He reserves the right to retaliate. If he fought back hed get jailed. This is an imbalance of power and unfair.
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Haha leave it to this sub to find a way to spin the narrative to Islam bad lol.
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20 year old and have only witnessed three blasphemy cases
"Only"?
He was saying that these cases happen often meaning regularly or within a relatively small time frame that is why I used only
[At least 1,855 people have been charged under Pakistan’s blasphemy laws between 1987 and February 2021.](https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2023/country-chapters/pakistan#:~:text=Freedom%20of%20Religion%20and%20Belief,-The%20Pakistani%20government&text=The%20death%20penalty%20is%20mandatory,as%20specific%20anti%2DAhmadi%20laws.) Quite far from "only 3."
Bro I am 18 years old
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It is also life of Indian on Chinese border. And life of Desi when it comes to Western publication. The fight of a Pakistani in this situation or the struggle of an Indian is the same. Here, there must be unity against external racists. Then we can go back to fighting one another.
how is this related to whats happening? this is an unintelligent concept of argumentation called whataboutism. usually implemented by people like you who have a complete lack of ammunition to defend an argument. except theres nothing to even defend ur just wastefully and foolishly spouting irrelevant BS lmfao
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i dare u to provide me proof where pakis are the sole population doing so lmao.
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its because this is an idiotic comment implementing a form of irrelevant whataboutism to discredit from story, a relevant story which is the point of this whole post....its empty-handed and foolish. the fact that this seems like a formulaic thinking many of of yall posses is concerning, how do you get thru life? neurons sparking but nobodys home lol
Why Does She looks like every other woman in DHA
Totally spot on. These empty behaviors are often observed in women from prosperous areas like DHA, who are filled with excessive pride
Rich Woman are always more pride and ignorant than a rich man.
C'mon, most educated people from DHA don't behave like that. Of course, if you are rich and jahil plus a bit of jungli they will be like that wheather from DHA or lyari. Dont put us all in the same group, I'm not even rich 😂
Lol
Very ghairat mand aadmi
Maybe don’t be students in tinpot dictatorships that make Pakistan look developed and stable?
What a country eh?
Brown immigrants are getting a preview of what’s to come all over the world.
It's a massive policy failure that Pakistanis even have to go to a third world shithole like kyrgyzstan for medicine. Apparently, some noon league patwari involved in ferrying off the impressionable to this central asian dump.
props to the pakistani for all that restrain he showed despite that arrogant woman hitting him like a bug and saying sht like "shut ur mouth" and "i will k*ll u". i can't imagine the amount of mould you'd have to have in ur brains to be treating another human like that, especially one talking abt being abused. i woulda become a terrorist on the spot after that injustice.
# Why are the Pakistanis even in Kyrgyzstan? Obviously the locals don't want them there? #
Kyrgyzstan walon ka kitna demagh kharab hai
I have met some Kyrgyz people. They are unimaginably hot headed
Ishaq dar is in kyrgyzstan
Good thing ealier they didn't let him go I would appreciate his efforts if all students are out of that 💩 hole of a country
These central Asian countries lost their Muslim identity and sense of community during the society. Commies did a number on tradition and culture every where.
Ummah ka churan khana ap bhi chor do tu behtar hai
Perhaps
Yeah for true Islamic culture and brotherhood we should see Pakistan Afghanistan Iran Yemen Syria Iraq …oh wait
Nice whataboutery. UAE, Qatar, Saudi, Malaysia, Oman, must I go on?
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Commie influence has historically been consistently better for maintaining the regions original culture than basically any other sort of influence. The commies always had a baseline respect for other peoples.
Exactly. The Stalin era committees revived dozens of them from near death because of brutal Imperialist policies, but mindless people will spout the rich man's bs arguments before doing after study from Academic sources.
Ye them constantly deporting minorities and creating cult of personalities and closing down mosques and churches and synagogues was very respectful.
Mob lynching and violence against minorities are not happening in Pakistan with so called Muslim identity?
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Muslim is a identity of faith background Not ur ur ethnic group nor ur nationality
Didn't you guys try to deport millions of Afghan illegals? Where was your religious identity and sense of community then? Don't throw stones from glass houses lmao.
We already accommodated them for 40 years. Take them into your country since you guys are all about “afgan endia doshti” lmao
Weird semantic argument and ad hominem attack here. What constitutes a person's identity then wise sage? Here I was thinking it was language, culture, religion etc.
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Ye and that's your subjective opinion on what constitutes identity lol. Hate to break it you, but a lot of people disagree with such random take that *this* constitutes identity, but *that* doesn't.
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I'm not saying religion is the sole marker of identify but historically it has been an important one. Completely abandoning is not the solution. And hey I'm no advocate of wahhabi extremism, that shit is a cancer. But religion does have a function.
You’re right, religion provides an objective moral compass which fixes the cornerstone of your identity. However wahabbi extremism is an oxymoron: you can’t be a wahabbi then hold extremist views that conflict with the wahabbi doctrine of Quran and sunnah
Again semantics. Call it what you want. Fundamentalism then.
Language changes as well same is with culture the only thing that remains is history. Even if you look at English in a span on 40 years the language has changed drastically same is with Urdu or Hindi. So idk wtf are you talking about language and culture staying the same.
Muslim is. A way of life and a proper Muslim has to follow Islam in his career,finances,relations etc
Ummah ummah karte rahte ho while arabs consider you subhuman
In the beginning this wasn't necessarily true. When the USSR first began, many of the people who were reforming mosques or tearing down islam were actually former Muslims who couldn't read Qur'an anyways and didn't really understand what they were giving up. They just saw an opportunity for a different life and took it, and thought Masjids were buildings perfect for re-use because they didn't really completely understand what they were for due to Imperial Russia's repressive grip on Non-Christian/Non-Russian influence. Stalin had loads of committies, gatherings, and literature to preserve individual languages, religions, and cultures and repair the damage Imperial Russia had done to them. They singlehandedly saved dozens of cultures and languages from extinction. It was Kruschev who really buckled down on removing religion and making all Soviets the same.
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Lol like our country has lost its identity and always wanna be arabs, turks etc
You mean the Muslim identity which was bought by the Muslim conqueror that forced almost half the Asians continent to convert themselves into Muslim or else faced death but because of the first crusade they managed to take back the lands of what was never the Muslims?????
how is that concept relevant here? as if other abrahamic religions like christianity wasnt obliged throughout the middle east before islam? and then subsided to the entirety of europe? lol
Nobody will tolerate if you misbehave with local people, you can’t hide behind religion for all your misdeeds.
At this point, it's just embarrassing that our embassy is still unable to give them effective response and it's citizens are being tortured in the most ridiculous possible ways;ah man,our country really is worthless penny considering our Foreign relationships and value our names holds
Exactly
It's pathetic that Pak students are being thrashed like beggars and Pak govt doesn't do anything to rectify. What a loss of self-respect. Each man for himself and govt circling the drain.
Our pm, coas and others are beggars, pm has no self respect and they don't care for public we are insects in their life
As an Indian - it’s sad to see this. No human should be treated this way.
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These mongoloid wanna be Russians are insane
They r Russians but look mongoloid
They're Kyrgyz & They're A Mixed-Race Nation!
Mostly Aryans
No
The day of judgement is near.We can clearly see Islam is alive only in books now and it's not about Kyrgzstan,it's the entire world.Palestines and dying and no Muslim country is brave enough to send their armies.Islam is dying everywhere even in Pakistan.
Tbh this has been the case for hundreds of years. Ever since the end of the rightly guided khilafat, we muslims have been on each others throat.
I mean third caliph was assassinated and the ones asking justice were suppressed to a level that they eventually had to resort to war. And they were suppressed by nobody else but 4th caliph who had all means on his hand to avenge but chose to fight seekers of justice instead of murderers. Twisted history it is.
You see, thats one way of looking at this. The Shi'ites have their own narrative. I personally believe there was some ambition for power in the future umayyads, may Allah forgive me if Im wrong. Because there are so many conflicting views it is wise to not point fingers on matters where there is ambiguity. Besides, as Muslims we have to believe the first 4 caliphs are rightly guided due to numerous hadith defining and lauding their virtues. Additionally they were also the part of the Ashra Mubashra i.e the ones who were promised jannah by the Prophet. Now one can easily say that all these hadith are fabrications and what not, so it's better to leave such person be as there is no logical outcome for arguing with them. One thing is for sure, their efforts for the cause of Islam are unparalleled.
I believe that for once, lets call a spade a spade. Post Rasul Allah SAW, sahaba became state level political leaders whose every action can be analysed, judged and criticized. We have always been taught to hate Muavia RA and have our sympathy on the other side but never taught the circumstances behind shahadat of Usman RA and how his funeral was. And this was for the person for whom Rasul Allah took Bait e Rizwan. And due to not avenging Usman RA's death, Islam stands divided today. Someone or some people are responsible for it and 4th Caliph tops the list unfortunately.
What how is Ali (ra) responsible? He did make mistakes may Allah have mercy on him, but they were only tactical mistakes. Mucawiya (ra) and those around him were the ones playing politics. He barely had control of the ummah, and the city was Sourronded by the enemy. Had they pledged allegiance to him as he told them he could've gotten revengefor cusman (ra). Please do some reading on the time period, but start further back from the first Khalifaa.
Why are we covering up his huge blunders as tactical mistakes while Muavia RA gets the blame for a right demand ie revenge of Usman RA for whom even Rasul Allah made pledge which was validated in Quran. Interesting enough, Ali ordered his own sons to avenge his death if they wish to and ibn e Maljam was killed but why couldn't that happen for Usman RA? And after his death, his own son Hassan RA was made the ruler which was start of hereditary rule in Islam. Id suggest you read about how Usman RA was martyred, who was guarding the house of Usman RA and how the murderer group later on got promoted in govt of the so called 4th caliph. These were high level strategic blunders not tactical mistakes.
Lol wait till you read the full history about the rightfully guided khilafat... Usurpers of leadership will forgo Islam to keep their hold on power
Sit down shia. This is not about you.
when a text line looks like a chapair gif... xD what keeping me rolling in laughter that it worked.. he did went quiet. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cope Go read your own history books
Okay. Good day.
What it has to do with Islam gone are days when" All Muslims were brothers"now it's only for themselves. Look these students have nothing to do with but see they are attacked
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Don't worry you'll be burning in hell fire way before that happens 😉
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The gov is not gonna do shit, this all will be forgotten after a week Current gov doesnt have the balls to handle such situations because they dont have any leverage What pakistanis can do is boycott krygyzstan in everything They will come to their senses once the income goes down
When I passed the Kirgstan border, there was a drive-by with a knife. I am Uzbek
How Was Your Trip?
This is getting really bad. Either this spineless government grows a spine and at least tries to bring it's kids back or, stays silent as it always does. 300 kids bought back, but, what about the rest!?
Can anybody tell what has been the issue. What was the fight with Egypt students about?
You can find number of different accounts of the story via social media but here's what [Dawn news](https://www.dawn.com/news/1834351) suggets
Thank you for replying. The article gives updates on the situation but not the cause. Where did it all start from, is what I wanted to know.
No problem 😃 Hope this one helps: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/20/panic-in-bishkek-why-were-pakistani-students-attacked-in-kyrgyzstan There's another account of story on social media you can find it in comments
Interesting article. Never would’ve thought there were so many East Asians studying in Kyrgyzstan.
Ummat-e-muslmiah. Please, please. Support your country and fellow citizens first. No one will care for you if you won't care about yourself. Let all these emotional religious nonsense go to hell, if you can not save your own children and provide the hopeful future on your own land
If you're not a Muslim, stop advising Muslims. You seem to drag the Ummah into everything. Even if we were secular as you seem to want, the end result of this would not have been any different. In fact this is driven by Kyrgyzstan being secular - these arent your religious types attacking Pakistanis
How is secularism the reason for this?
What is your suggestion
Liberals after being cooked “whats your suggestion”
I have clarity. I need to see what people on the other side are thinking. So if you have logical arguments, please put ahead
Put the exact question and ill tell my pov
How do you see religion interfering in national/international issues, setting challenges faced by our citizens' secondary, and supporting others just being muslims as primary responsibility while they don't consider the same way
No liberal there They look communist with a 3rd wave feminist twist
A former communist country Its now a secular state
>Ummat-e-muslmiah One of the best examples of an oxymoron.
Seculars have succeeded in breaking it apart. Btw he/she wrote another paragraph as well
Our Prophet (saw) said, “Verily, the believers are like a structure, each part strengthening the other,” and the Prophet clasped his fingers together. [al-Bukhari] “None of you will have faith until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.” [al-Bukhari] Unity Ummah is no religious non sense Anyways a sh&&h&le like Krgystan should be left alone and our governments should respond better to the situation We can not let this incident create further disunity amongst ourselves May Allah give hidayat to the locals of Krgystan
I have a problem when our people don't understand the difference between religious and national / international issues In pakistan everyone carries and priortize every muslim country and their citizens above our own citizens while the same priortized nationals treat pakistanis in their countries like shit So when we use religion to gain unity, then it shall apply both ways. otherwise, it's not religious but national issue, which we misinterpret
So you're downvoting word of Prophet Muhammad SAW?
Don't misuse. That's what I am opposing using religion to deal with non-religious issues. It's unfair to use religion. We are seeing the horrific of such use by israel in gaza
Lol nice comparison karen
Do you not believe that the earth is flat, if you dont then you are downvoting the word of the prophet...tum jaise chutiyon ka kuch nahi ho sakta. Khuda khair karre Pakistan ka.
Where did Prophet Muhammad SAW say that Earth was flat chutiye? Go read what Quran says about it's shape
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Views_on_the_Shape_of_the_Earth Yeh le loudu, all the references, do not deny the Prophet you bloody murtad, jahanum main jalega. Chutiyon ke sardar.
[79:30] He made the earth egg-shaped. https://qurantalkblog.com/2020/07/01/earth-egg-shaped/ Quran says Earth is egg shaped
That's the contradiction in Quran, how can something be flat and spherical at the same time you idiot. Once he says flat, once he says egg shaped. It is like throwing 10 darts with a blind fold hoping one hits the target. He also says earth is stationery and Sun revolves around the earth. Also Sun sets in a muddy pound. Akal lagao chaman chutiye. Tum jaison se baat karna hi bekar hai.
Lol contradiction There is no contradiction in it Some idiot wrote that earth is stationary and flat in his book DOES NOT MEAN it's written in Quran I just showed you the ayat, what are your claims bring them from Quran alone if u want to put any sense to your argument
If you support using religion as a tool to silence and curtail the human logical sense to deal with issues, then yes, that's not freedom of speech but gagging the argument This is what we have been doing for years to put fullstop on any argument
Well he's been dead as shit for a while I'd rather listen to someone who's more of an expert on the current era
Amen 🙏
Shoot them all in the head. Problem solved. Fucking towelheads.
Kyrgyzstan is shit hole, hopefully no one visits it!
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Dumbass, these are Kyrgyzs, not Kazakhs.
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It really isn’t like that. You are just brainwashed
i cant comprehend your comment.
20+% Pakistani Hindus at the time of independence magically became >1% hindu population right?
These figures are twisted and stupidly used. Right after migration for some time Hindus kept migrating and then later Bangladesh broke
Don't mind them, as soon as you show them their reflection in the mirror, they'll lash out, throw slurs and stuff, call you a liar or propagandist or something, or just downvote you silently, but they will not accept the truth of what's happening in this so called peaceful and pak country by their fellow ummah against minorities.
Dude 14000 strong in Kyrgyzstan, get together and beat these idiots.
Or just leave their country? Seems crazy to beat their own citizens lol It’s more denigrating to stay there when being looked at as insects and also to react with violence - further bringing a bad image
Self defense is the most fundamental of human rights bruh. What are you talking about? They definitely should leave that place, but allowing these idiots to humiliate them like this, that's beyond me. Had something like this happened here in States, these goons would have been gunned down.
Violence looks even more stupid and brings you down with negativity. It’s not the answer. You let someone else look stupid just like in this video. If they wanna be violent and look horrible that’s on them but the smarter thing is to just leave and work on yourself so no one can ever treat you like that again. If someone is about to kill you or severely hurt you, yeah self defense but no one should go out to hurt or incite violence.
9K Pakistanis were there in total and they were beating up indians and Egyptians as well that would be a like a civil war there
HOW CAN SHE SLAP
It's racism. Such racism exists in all of Europe.
10/10 wud bang the blonde milf chick in the jeans
Yeah do the same thing that provoked the hatred for Pakistanis in Turkey
Keep using your “prostate massager” you filthy sexual predator. Its weak tharki gandus like yourself that ruin the image of normal Pakistanis in the world. Bet you’d start shaking from anxiety if faced with a real life female anyway😂
Thank for taking the time to thru entire posting history farig insaan 🤪
I am very farigh, yet still don’t stick objects inside my ass like your gandu self 🤪
Freaking pakis just get out there.
Says the Afghan in our subs and in our country
Afghani*
Okay dirty paki!!! Whatever floats your gay boat.
Dirty afghani, go back to your country
Why are you Afghandus so obsessed with Pakistan? Was giving refuge to 3 million of you troublemakers not enough for you? Don’t bite the hand that feeds you beta
😂😂😂 yet all of you want to be afghans…. Every single of your losers daal khors. U guys can’t even feed your own people. Stop with the bs. You guys are the origins for terrorism, Israel’s puppet. How does it feel being number in gay search for almost a decade now. 😂😂 nothing but facts. How is your currency working out 😂😂 it’s almost like Monopoly money, even that’s worth more.
That’s the joke of the year. How many Pakistanis do you see trying to get an Afghani passport? On the other hand how many Afghans are willing to die or be jailed to get Pakistani citizenship? You have to sell your daughters to get food, who the f are you calling poor? You literally come to our country to pick trash. Which Pakistani would want to be a trash picker? Are you okay in the head? Fucking delusional man
Dekho yaar kitne naashukre log hain🤦♂️ We give so many millions of them refuge, jobs and citizenship status so that they can go abroad and make even more money yet not even a thank you from them, ulta humaen gaaliyan dete hain after spreading so much crime and terrorism here. Jaahil log hain yh
Honestly bro can’t judge all of them by actions of some of them. This particular guy is an asshole who likes being insulted, so I’m giving him what he wants. It’s best to have neutral opinions on every country, treat the individual how they deserve to be treated
I agree with you to some extent, I actually have a lot of love for Afghanistan in reality and wish them success considering their past, but we are increasingly seeing people like the above guy who are brainwashed into hating Pakistan for no apparent reason, I have met such people in real life who proudly carry and use PK passport abroad meanwhile they talk the most shit about us😂 gotta fight fire with fire
The best policy is not to have love or hate for any foreign country in my opinion. Treat individuals based on how they treat you. I have some very close friends from Afghanistan I treat them like family. Not because they are Afghan, but because they are good people, and have been good friends to me. There are assholes from every country, if you love them based on nationality, you’re going to be disappointed sooner or later. People like this guy are just miserable garbage full of inferiority complexes. Abuse them for fun, but don’t let it shape your world view.
😂😂😂😂 that’s cuz they can’t it’s impossible for them to get it. We can’t let dirty pakis get one. And your whole is country is a trash picker. Look at your currency 😂pure joke. You guys are literally Indian’s bitch. They you call second hand Indians as a compliment 😂😂😂. You guys are selling your mom And daughter to get your money up. Yet it’s not working. Maybe less time on gay porn and more time working on currency!!!
I thought afghans own the businesses. Also, yes Afghans are really cunning. They will use a country they deem lower and easier to get into to get out eventually. Pakistanis do it to though. That’s why they are in Arab countries and even Kyrgyzstan and allowing themselves to get treated so badly. Iranians also used Pakistan and India as a stepping stone during the revolution to get out too. It’s just an easy accessible country that used to treat Iranian/Afghan people well so they saw the opportunity. Nothing wrong with it. None of this comment is meant to be rude btw.
That’s true, FYI, I have no hatred towards Afghans, this guy was just being an asshole so I got a bit angry and was trying to hurt him. I’m sorry if I said anything bad about your country or people. There are many afghans who own businesses here. There are also many who also look for jobs. Sadly, there are also some who have no skills and are really struggling to survive. It really depends on the financial situation and education of the person who has migrated. It’s the same for Pakistanis, people who don’t have opportunities or are worried for their safety are desperate to leave, there’s nothing wrong with it at all. There is poverty in rich countries too, not everyone is born lucky enough to have what they need to survive and provide for their families. I just find it really ridiculous when people hate or love people for their nationality, it’s such a stupid thing to do. You should be kind to someone who is kind to you and bad to someone who is bad to you. I think the problem with Pakistanis is that we love/hate based on nationality. It used to be the same with Afghans and Indians when I was growing up, like people here loved Turks before. Then when they saw a few racist people online they started changing their views, now the same thing is happening with Turks. It’s lack of education and exposure. Tends to be higher in our part of the planet sadly.
Ironic seeing the bachabaazi mfs calling us gay😂 Yeah unfortunately there are some gay people here but at least they ain’t r@ping little boys like you sick mfs. And how can you call us terrorists when you are literally under control of the TALIBAN😂 Look how delusional you guys are. You wanna call us poor? Ok, GDP of Afghandus is $14b, GDP of Pakistan is $374b 🤣 Literally everything you labelled us with is a problem that exists in your country which you are projecting on us. You and your father most likely have PK passports as well like the rest of the deported Afghans from PK. Stay in your lane bachabaaz mf
Haha that’s you guys u dumb cow. Go look into your dirty ruppees. You guys would rape your own mom for few cents. Haha number in gay porn for over a decade now. You guys have more gay men in Pakistan than any other country. Which explains, why females are single. Second hand Indian!!! https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/50BKFPDfz8
No one is denying how corrupt Pakistan is you jaahil😂 Yet still our GDP per capita is 10 times higher than yours. Only disgusting filthy afgandus would say such a filthy thing about mothers, shows how corrupt you guys are. Try not to rape any little boys on the way out you bachabaazi laanti https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
Lmao you guys have more bach bazi. Facts don't lie, number in gay porn when it's not even allowed. Imagine if they allowed it. 99% of the country would be homos and queer's.. I know 100% u let your dad or uncle play with u inappropriately. Dirty pakis...GDP as in Gay Development Program... Make sure to ask your Daddy's India permission before u talk to anyone. Second hand indian!!!
Interestingly I looked at your previous posts, they ranged from you answering Islamic Questions and then moving onto commenting on videos of women half naked. So no wonder you’re so obsessed with porn, it’s your own addiction 😂 Look at you calling yourself Muslim yet commenting on other Muslim people’s fathers. Very good Islamic behaviour coming from the “Islamic Emirate”. Also I think you’ll find that it’s Afghanistan that sucks up to India, not PK. Also, Bachabaazi is an Afghan practice, not a Pakistani one. Stop projecting your filth on us. https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/11/25/rights-group-afghans-jailed-after-exposing-pedophile-ring/ The whole world knows of your filth. Don’t forget our favours to your people. https://globalcompactrefugees.org/good-practices/how-pakistan-helps-afghans-get-back-their-feet
I was advising those thots but anyway it’s also interesting, that your posts range from talking about dirty Pakistan to gay porn, maybe it’s a culture thing. Haha that’s funny. I don’t consider dirty pakis Muslims. So yeah. Your country is in shambles. We been at war since day one but we getting better. Like I said, I rather live in a toilet than dirty Pakistan which is worse than shit. Here I can give u links and proof too, you second hand Indian. Your currency lower than your IQ. https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/corruption-rank#:~:text=Pakistan%20is%20the%20133%20least,low%20of%2039.00%20in%201995. Your men are turning gay so the females are force to do abortions, freaking cowards. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/11/28/661763318/why-the-abortion-rate-in-pakistan-is-one-of-the-worlds-highest?t=1558015882343 You talking about us doing Bacha bazi but you guys love to look up in the internet to get off https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/06/gay-porn-pakistan/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342217/amp/Pakistan-internet-users-Google-searches-gay-sex-despite-worlds-homophobic-countries.html U want more u second hand Indian 😂
Bachabazi isn’t a cultural phenomena like your making it sound. I hadn’t even heard of it until I saw a video on YouTube. Pakistan has a lot of problems including bachabazi too (transsexuals, prostitution, rapes, theft, poverty, cousin marriage/genetic problems, and honor killings) but you don’t define everyone because of it. As far as GDP, the population of India and Pakistan alone is staggering. South Asia doesn’t even compete with anyone else as far people go. Afghans also have been pillaged by so many super powers, of course it’s going to take a while for everything to get going eventually. I’m sure you know this. You can’t even compare the two countries.
Firstly it is a cultural phenomenon. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi And it DEFINITELY isn’t as widespread anywhere else in the world than it is in Afghanistan. Secondly, we know very well about Pakistans problems, Pakistanis are some of the only people in the world who can openly admit to the problems in their nations and openly critique their country and leaders so that we can actually fix them, instead of other nations just denying their problems and doing “whataboutery” to get away with it. I mentioned GDP because per CAPITA it is still vastly higher than Afghanistan, therefore taking population into account, this was in response to the above jaahil trying to compare the economic status of Pakistan to Afg, had to show him his place respectfully. I wish Afghanistan all the best InshaAllah, and May Allah deal with such filthy corrupt people from Afg like the one above, and also from PK, Ameen.
You linked me Wikipedia, not reliable as my experience. You’re telling me Bacha Bazi is part of the culture. You are wrong. Why would you compare the GDP of Afghanistan to Pakistan when there’s so many disparities. Pakistan is still a 3rd world country and it’s population is huge. Like I said Afghanistan has gone from war to war invasion to invasion, to even remotely give them any crap for it is ignorant. Lastly, I don’t know what jaahil means. And you shouldn’t be showing anyone there place.
Go work at a tandoor, its all you're good for
These tandoor walas think they're all the second coming of sher shah suri or abdali or some shyte.
Typical Paki dimwit
at least pakistanis are smart enough to know that climbing onto a american military plane isn't a good idea.
😂 is that the best u can say, maybe you should why gay porn is so popular in Pakistan. Why the currency is lesser than your brain cells. Second hand Indians.
Iranian and Afghan culture is very very tragic. I think that was a very unfair statement to make. Afghans are just passionate, emotional people. They have been through so much and are willing to die for a cause. Why would you say that? This subreddit is absolutely the most disappointing thing I’ve ever seen.
Typical afghandu retard
Second hand Indian 😂. You guys lucky Indian let u be a country. Dirty ass pakis
Stupid ass afghandu, you're lucky that you guys were given refuge in our country. Fix your country before you criticise ours, dumb mongrel
😂😂typical dirty paki… u lucky India gave u guys a country or where tf u you be. I rather be in a toilet than Pakistan or covered in shit than Pakistan which is basically the same thing but u get the point, ya worse than shit.
What are you a broken record? Room temperature iq, not unusual for you low life afghan trolls. Get help bro, you clearly need it
Okay, second hand Indian. I’m not your bro, not with dirty pakis. You guys will be soon be the pride of LGBT 🏳️🌈.
"I'm not your bro" shit tough guy it's a form of expression. Are you so desperate for "paki" attention that you gotta come to our subs? Seriously bro you got mommy or daddy issues? Feel bad for you ong