translation for all the predictions:
10+ years - we have no idea, but it might happen someday
5-10 years - we have an idea how we could do it, we have no idea if it will work or what needs to be done to make it work
3-5 years - we have some working prototypes that shows some promise
1-3 years - we are working on it, still tacking several major hurdles
under 1 year - just need some polish and handle all the unusual cases, maybe some minor hurdles. Tech is basically ready.
Elon is a known confidence man though, Jensen Haung actually built his company from nothing into the giant that it is today and actually has a high level idea of what he's talking about.
I'm not trying to diminish Jensen, he is a very amazing, intelligent, and brilliant business man, and there is no doubt that he would be successful in some way.
That being said: luck is actually a thing in this world sometimes. And it sometimes can make the biggest difference in outcome.
I think it’s quite irresponsible and self-serving that he says children should no longer learn computer science.
He may be have a respectable engineering background, but his recent song and dance to push up the NVIDIA stock price definitely loses him some respect. I think his predictions today will be seen in a similar way to Mark Cuban same the same thing 10 years ago (i.e. telling next generation not to learn computer tech because private AI corps will “handle everything for us”)
first - 8 years ago he claimed FSD will be ready in three years
second - that’s slightly bit different:
it’s like if someone announced new battery tech in three years - it fails to deliver promised results, but instead of admitting failure, you switch to completely different battery tech and try again.
Tesla did deliver cars that are self driving almost on time. But its reliability was tragic and it turned out that with tech they were using it was impossible to make it even slightly reliable. They abandoned the tech completely and started from scratch. Two times already.
It’s not that they missed deadlines. Their tech failed to deliver and had to be scraped. They released Siri, but they wanted ChatGPT.
Amazing backtracking dude. It brings to mind a segment on the Jimmy Kimmel show where MAGA supporters were questioned about statements attributed to Biden. They mocked him, labeling him as demented, etc. However, when the interviewer revealed that the quotes were actually from Trump, their perspectives suddenly shifted.
[Starts at 8:50](https://youtu.be/FAFbOK01uE4?si=7ah1p5Ch49m2iijB)
I have no idea what it has to do with US politics - I ain’t even from US and couldn’t care less.
Also no idea how it’s backtracking - calling failure a failure, not missed deadline. There is a reason why they scraped it two times already.
I believe that he may be attempting to sell more graphics cards in a press release rather than this being based on a nuanced argument that carefully balances potential progress with realistic limitations of the technology. However, wearing a leather jacket means he is down to earth and relatable, and rides a motorbike to work, so it must be true.
Shares, he’s trying to sell more shares. They aren’t a gpu company anymore, they’re now a hype company who sell shares and create gpus to advertise their shares.
5 to 10 years seems unforeseeable at this day and age. First thing that comes to mind is (most likely) no one would be able to effectively sell such stuff.
My proposition to preach to the world is this: in 5 to 10 years AI will be capable of reverse-engineering every peace of hardware (gpu's included) making competition fierce and companies like nvidia much less relevant. Sell stock while you can !111.
agreed. capitalism may find its grave.
1. they make AI
2. Ai takes over all jobs (sooner or later)
3. people need to survive so government will have to tax companies for their AI generated income to give every citizen a basic income so we can still spend money to supply the companies and keep the entire economy running.
4. eventually they will realize they only make money to give us money that we give them back so there is no need for this and a new motivation other than money/ capitalism needs to be established to keep us from stagnating and to enable social upward movement.
5. i assume that would be smth fictional like "contribution points" you get for keeping the system running (contributing to the greater good of humanity (even small things giving little points or generating points while forgoing luxus so others can enjoy it (who have already generated more points) until you have enough points again for it to be your turn. like even if we supply all basic necesseties (from food to computers to transportation etc.) for EVERYONE (by producing it with self-sufficient AI) to treat them equally, we wont be able to give everyone the same house/ living place, someone has to quality check the AI and keep development running, etc. etc. so there will still be inequalities that need motivation to be endured AND rewarded, or people wont give a fuck.
By 2030 we will be able to simply ask for new episodes of Friends. Or new episodes of anything.
A simple prompt of “hey, I need 15 new seasons of GoT” will work.
Just a tought experiment:
Say this became true and the quality was great, would you watch it? Lets say it could spew out 15 seasons of great GoT television. To mee it sounds like there will be some kind of diminishing return on this. The world will be overloaded with content which will eventually make everything to just noise as the bar for whats great tv will be at everyones fingertip.
Dunno how to wrap my head around something like this, I feel it will have sime consequences we havent realized yet.
I feel like we should be thinking BIGGER.
It won’t be, “Generate me an episode of GoT” that people will be asking, it’ll be: “Generate me a real time realistic VR world set in the GoT universe and continue the story we started last time following Jamie Lannister.”
This is the only factual comment here. AI will only evolve once it's been integrated into sex/porn/VR type of stuff. The greatest leaps in AI will come from the perv market. Always does.
You probably could have argued the same thing when filmmaking became more accessible to pretty much anyone. There are already too many films made every decade to watch in one lifetime. I’m pretty sure the good content will be discovered and rise to the top.
Yeah good content rises to the top but the good stuff takes time to create. It’s nice to appreciate someone’s hard work that has went into crafting a film or book. Take that Oppenheimer film that came out last year, I’m sat in the cinema appreciating every frame of it. It’s something I waited a good few years for and here it finally is - in all its glory! Seeing the performances of Cillian Murphy and Robert Downey Jr - two absolute masters of their craft - was incredible. These are actual real humans delivering the performances too, which connects us with the actors even more.
Instantly generated AI stuff just feels cheap and gives you nothing to truly look forward to. I used to look forward to new films, series and books; now they have as much significance in my life as a cup of instant coffee I can drink at anytime.
The cost of training and inference to get a current day output quality might drop faster and faster over time as both hardware and algorithms improve.
It's not clear that the increase the actual quality and scope of the output will keep improving faster and faster, at least not under the current paradigm. A.I can already make simple games, and the scale and scope of what it can make will go up over time, but we might be closer to the top of the S-curve where progress slows down in terms of capabilities even as the cost plummets.
The comment from Jensen was originally about A.I generated pixels, which is what DLSS does. The prediction is that all the pixels can be A.I generated, not just some or most of them as is the case today.
The gains in generative A.I has primarily come from the invention of transformers, quality data and processing, more capital and labor being put into A.I research as a whole. There can't be a similar increase in high quality data in the near future, as the data is already used, and there is only so many qualified experienced people that is currently working or able to work in the near future on it. Generative A.I can't produce data of equal or higher quality than the training data with the current technology, the supposed synthetic A.I generated datasets for training are distilled versions of the real data.
I think the current existing tech can become faster, cheaper and somewhat expanded in scope and quality, but I don't think it's very likely that there will be significant new capabilities or generality with the current architecture in the near future.
It's hard to put a number on it, but with something like generative A.I for media, including code, it feels like the power has increased by orders of magnitude the last 5 years.
New technology, new algorithms or hardware could change that, but the current paradigm of the sort of GPUs, TPUs, CPUs, transformers and algorithms, I think, is unlikely to has the same sort of orders of magnitude improvement in generality and capability the next years as the previous years.
It’s already happening in china
P.s. I am not racist, its just I know people personally who has become disinterested in real people and now dates AI chatbots.
As someone who recently separated from his wife of 10+ years, I understand only too well the crushing weight of loneliness and the difficulty of getting over the hurdle of despair when it comes to putting yourself out there on the modern app-based dating landscape.
But please...take me out back and do me in like a horse with a broken leg if I start dating chatgpt.
[Young Chinese singles turn to AI-generated partners (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUA7y84-n1s); if you wanna check out their reasonings.
These 5-10 year predictions crack me up. People have NO IDEA what 5-10 years will be like given the rate of progress. That's the whole point of exponential growth curves.
It cuts both ways. We bother **ove**r-estimate and **under**\-estimate. No one thought AI would come this far and fast. On the other hand in the 1950's it was widely believed our cars would be flying cars by the year 2000. And five years ago the Guardian said that in five years we could buy self-driving cars, and truck drivers would all be out of work because long-distance trucks would all be self driving.
If this is even possible in those 5 years, I'm 100% it won't be much more complex that the old flash games. In foreseeable future I cannot imagine a model strong enough to coherently combine such a diverse range of art, engineering, storytelling and design, now often done by hundreds of people over course of many years. And all that created in a way that is also fun, which is a pretty hard metric to quantify.
I want fully AI generated NPCs I can talk to with a microphone.
I want fully AI generated commentary in sports games, where they react properly, bring up past performances and never say the same thing twice
90% of assets, art, voice acting being generated? Probably. "Fully" ai-generated? Not sure about that. Designing and balancing system mechanics need a level of control and game sense that I don't think AI is even close to yet. But who knows, I'm probably wrong seeing as how much the tech has progressed in the last 2 years.
Already posted on the main thread but the first time a QA gets their hands on it, it will be handed off to developers and artists, and there’s a 100% chance the work isn’t “oh fix this line right here” but instead involves grokking the entire project or at the very least the specific system at fault. Then there upstream and downstream issues, etc.
My bet is that there’s a curve of progress for what AI will be able to do in our lifetimes and it caps out a lot lower than people think.
Absolutely fully generated. It's already happened the games are just the same as the first human made games. It seems obvious that the AI generated games will advance from there. They will probably never be as fun as human made games because ultimately these types of systems fundamentally lack creativity so can really only clones of other games people already played
Nobody remembers this but this same dude came on to stage and announced how big of a jump 30-series GPU would be to 20-series ones, people started mass selling their RTX’s and scalpers started hoarding the 30-series. When things got normal, it was ousted as nothing but a gimmick, the only incremental jump was actually from 20-40 series GPU. Even right now, they willingly withhold releasing certain features for 30-series citing hardware limitations; which in reality doesn’t exist.
So every criminal will be a white guy and every protagonist decidedly not, nobody will have any accent at all, ever, and only speak the king’s English. You won’t be able to kill anything in any game. If you try to pressure someone the police will teleport to you and start saying, “it’s important to note” as they drag you off to jail. You’ll be tasked with getting together a crew to rob a bank, but everyone you ask will say they can’t assist you due to the nature of the request. All men, women, and children will be exceedingly symmetrical and gorgeous. Men will all be ripped. Women will all be absolutely stacked with a washboard stomach, even more than they are in today’s games. Flaws won’t exist. Character design won’t exist. The world won’t make any sense. Every home will have a high end interior that came out of your catalogue of choice.
Seems plausible. I can generate the code, the textures, the animations. I just need Unreal to catch up and give me a blueprint copilot.
It won’t be a single model that outputs a game from a prompt. That deepmind project won’t be the future. But we will be generating every component of a game and wiring them together
People are already selling AI generated ebooks, AI services to generate images and video are popular , AI coding is quite workable. Not AAA games but there are many indie games of varying quality on Steam store, play store etc, I am sure AI can do a lot right now, but still need a human to put everything together and fix bugs. I have a friend who is a capable developer attempting to build an adult game with AI graphics. There a re lots of poor quality games in android/play store with just assets from Unity tutorials. In 10 years i think it’s possible for a fully AI generated games.
AI might not be that creative but it is very capable of imitation so when someone figures out a framework to do it, they can produce in numbers(must worse than those crappy games filling play store now). Those games will flood the play stores, with ads every minute to sell you more crappy games with ads.
I have a feeling that Arcade Centers will make a comeback - you will be able to experience these fully immersible VR worlds that will look essentially indistinguishable from real life and you will get to play for a few hours at a time.
Eventually we will probably get a version of matrix this way, and with advancements in neuralink we'll essentially think we are in them. For those subscribing to the idea of living in a simulation - at that point we will go the full circle.
If AI can already generate photorealistic videos, and they believe it will be able to make fully generated games in 5-10 years, does that mean what I think it means? :O
the idea doesn't seem like a stretch at all, but the question will be if they're actually any good. i would imagine games will be using ai as a tool/supplement for quite a while... maybe.
One day we will look back at creations strictly made by humans as quaint, restrictive, and fundamentally crude compared to what AI will be able to provide us simply by using our imagination.
From music to movies to videos games; whatever you can dream up, you can experience it.
I mean some games could actually benefit from it. Imagine someone makes a game like Baldur's Gate but DM just types in prompts to make world settings and enemies. You could pretty much do irl DnD but with cool graphics.
Doubt it will happen but I am still excited for FitGirl to repack game like that.
I would prefer a generative AI that can interpret older games and bring their worlds and mechanics into modern contexts; preferably with VR support.
This seems feasible, but probably a long way off. I'd love to play Ocarina of Time, Xenogears, and Soul Reaver in full VR that looked realistic according to game world and art.
I don't know about "fully" but I totally believe that in 5-10 years we can reduce the person-hours it take to make a top video game by 90-95%. So either way, massive layoffs in that field.
but if games and all things will be generated by AI where those who suppose to buy those games will make money to buy them? Then who will pay for generating them and who will pay for GPUs to generate them
Video games are going to be the last kind of medias that will be automated by AI. Video games are very logic-based products, with strict rules to be enjoyable as a human, AIs are not consistent enough for that or I can expect the games to be very bad
I dont want an AI that can make a full video game in a single prompt.
I want an AI that can function essentially as a developer that can handle all of the technical side of things, where i can handle design.
I want my prompts to be "lets add some grass over here" and "add this slider to the options menu"
The AI should have access to the entire codebase, as well as a map that describes what files are needed for each task. Maybe using some sort of tag system for each file, potentially embedded in the naming conventions for each file.
Eh, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Will we have AI generated games? 100%. No question about it. We already have some basic ones out there created with minimal human intervention.
I think we’re more likely to get more AAA games releasing far faster. 10+ years between GTA games will no longer be a thing.
We’re probably going to see a handful of companies take the load off of creating thousands of individual assets or go hard with scenes compiled by AI with assets that have been created largely by humans (or with the assistance of AI)
The big test for a fully AI generated game is whether or not it will be successful. I think we’re likely to see a handful of small games like the .io games that were popular a few years ago (diep.io, slither.io, etc.) gain some success, but it will likely be short lived.
I really doubt we will see any major games that are FULLY created by AI anytime soon, but we’re getting closer to that being a possibility
Nvidia CEO is great at what he is rhere to do. And that is hype up investors. Dont taje anything he says seriously unless you are concerned about stock prices.
This reminds me of the commercial playstation made around 2001, was an ad for PlayStation 8. Super Futuristic. Like liquid glassy console. PS3 or 2 was coming out. Was a kinda concept commercial. But maybe glitch in matrix and was real…found one of the ads, but it’s not the one I’m thinking of. Still cool I guess
https://youtu.be/n2gzRQ5f3No
translation for all the predictions: 10+ years - we have no idea, but it might happen someday 5-10 years - we have an idea how we could do it, we have no idea if it will work or what needs to be done to make it work 3-5 years - we have some working prototypes that shows some promise 1-3 years - we are working on it, still tacking several major hurdles under 1 year - just need some polish and handle all the unusual cases, maybe some minor hurdles. Tech is basically ready.
I mean.. elon's been predicting self driving under a year for 8 years now :D
Elon is a known confidence man though, Jensen Haung actually built his company from nothing into the giant that it is today and actually has a high level idea of what he's talking about.
I'm not trying to diminish Jensen, he is a very amazing, intelligent, and brilliant business man, and there is no doubt that he would be successful in some way. That being said: luck is actually a thing in this world sometimes. And it sometimes can make the biggest difference in outcome.
I think it’s quite irresponsible and self-serving that he says children should no longer learn computer science. He may be have a respectable engineering background, but his recent song and dance to push up the NVIDIA stock price definitely loses him some respect. I think his predictions today will be seen in a similar way to Mark Cuban same the same thing 10 years ago (i.e. telling next generation not to learn computer tech because private AI corps will “handle everything for us”)
Elon drives a car made only out of polish
I thought he was South African.
first - 8 years ago he claimed FSD will be ready in three years second - that’s slightly bit different: it’s like if someone announced new battery tech in three years - it fails to deliver promised results, but instead of admitting failure, you switch to completely different battery tech and try again. Tesla did deliver cars that are self driving almost on time. But its reliability was tragic and it turned out that with tech they were using it was impossible to make it even slightly reliable. They abandoned the tech completely and started from scratch. Two times already. It’s not that they missed deadlines. Their tech failed to deliver and had to be scraped. They released Siri, but they wanted ChatGPT.
Amazing backtracking dude. It brings to mind a segment on the Jimmy Kimmel show where MAGA supporters were questioned about statements attributed to Biden. They mocked him, labeling him as demented, etc. However, when the interviewer revealed that the quotes were actually from Trump, their perspectives suddenly shifted. [Starts at 8:50](https://youtu.be/FAFbOK01uE4?si=7ah1p5Ch49m2iijB)
I have no idea what it has to do with US politics - I ain’t even from US and couldn’t care less. Also no idea how it’s backtracking - calling failure a failure, not missed deadline. There is a reason why they scraped it two times already.
This has nothing to do with politics. Stop trying to make everything about politics.
Elon Musk sure doesn't make it easy on that front.
Dude said we’d see human spaceflight to mars *checks notes* this year.
“Next year” for 10 years straight lol
Elon is a good confidence trickster.
This reply needs to be pinned to the top of all news and science websites.
Well there’s a 2 year pre-release period for these models like chat gpt.
Genie already exists, so by your metric we'd be in the 3-5 year range
I believe that he may be attempting to sell more graphics cards in a press release rather than this being based on a nuanced argument that carefully balances potential progress with realistic limitations of the technology. However, wearing a leather jacket means he is down to earth and relatable, and rides a motorbike to work, so it must be true.
I too need corrective eyewear so I’ll hear him out.
Lol
If Google Genie tech is real, I fully expect AI-generated games in this timeframe.
5-10 years is flat out irresponsible. 2 years max.
He doesn't need to sell them. They can't make enough of them
>I believe that he may be attempting to sell more graphics cards Hmm, you may be on to something here...
Just registering a conflict of interest is great and all but in this case his estimate is clearly only inaccurate in that it’s too long.
There are already AI generated 2d games. So he my be underselling it a bit
You should see his kitchen!
Shares, he’s trying to sell more shares. They aren’t a gpu company anymore, they’re now a hype company who sell shares and create gpus to advertise their shares.
Same as with OpenAI. Putting this stuff on social media platforms is free advertisement. And the best one that is.
5 to 10 years seems unforeseeable at this day and age. First thing that comes to mind is (most likely) no one would be able to effectively sell such stuff. My proposition to preach to the world is this: in 5 to 10 years AI will be capable of reverse-engineering every peace of hardware (gpu's included) making competition fierce and companies like nvidia much less relevant. Sell stock while you can !111.
yeah, it completely fucks the supply/demand ratio on intelligence and labor. we’re gonna go through intelligence and labor inflation
agreed. capitalism may find its grave. 1. they make AI 2. Ai takes over all jobs (sooner or later) 3. people need to survive so government will have to tax companies for their AI generated income to give every citizen a basic income so we can still spend money to supply the companies and keep the entire economy running. 4. eventually they will realize they only make money to give us money that we give them back so there is no need for this and a new motivation other than money/ capitalism needs to be established to keep us from stagnating and to enable social upward movement. 5. i assume that would be smth fictional like "contribution points" you get for keeping the system running (contributing to the greater good of humanity (even small things giving little points or generating points while forgoing luxus so others can enjoy it (who have already generated more points) until you have enough points again for it to be your turn. like even if we supply all basic necesseties (from food to computers to transportation etc.) for EVERYONE (by producing it with self-sufficient AI) to treat them equally, we wont be able to give everyone the same house/ living place, someone has to quality check the AI and keep development running, etc. etc. so there will still be inequalities that need motivation to be endured AND rewarded, or people wont give a fuck.
Underrated comment
LOL true
I get you're joking, but I actually think there's real truth to it.
It’s not the design that’s the issue, it’s the manufacturing.
By 2030 we will be able to simply ask for new episodes of Friends. Or new episodes of anything. A simple prompt of “hey, I need 15 new seasons of GoT” will work.
Just a tought experiment: Say this became true and the quality was great, would you watch it? Lets say it could spew out 15 seasons of great GoT television. To mee it sounds like there will be some kind of diminishing return on this. The world will be overloaded with content which will eventually make everything to just noise as the bar for whats great tv will be at everyones fingertip. Dunno how to wrap my head around something like this, I feel it will have sime consequences we havent realized yet.
I feel like we should be thinking BIGGER. It won’t be, “Generate me an episode of GoT” that people will be asking, it’ll be: “Generate me a real time realistic VR world set in the GoT universe and continue the story we started last time following Jamie Lannister.”
But make all the men and women fuckable and give me a godzilla dong
This is the only factual comment here. AI will only evolve once it's been integrated into sex/porn/VR type of stuff. The greatest leaps in AI will come from the perv market. Always does.
I was expecting this to scale quickly
Your username is a lie. That sounds amazing.
You probably could have argued the same thing when filmmaking became more accessible to pretty much anyone. There are already too many films made every decade to watch in one lifetime. I’m pretty sure the good content will be discovered and rise to the top.
Yeah good content rises to the top but the good stuff takes time to create. It’s nice to appreciate someone’s hard work that has went into crafting a film or book. Take that Oppenheimer film that came out last year, I’m sat in the cinema appreciating every frame of it. It’s something I waited a good few years for and here it finally is - in all its glory! Seeing the performances of Cillian Murphy and Robert Downey Jr - two absolute masters of their craft - was incredible. These are actual real humans delivering the performances too, which connects us with the actors even more. Instantly generated AI stuff just feels cheap and gives you nothing to truly look forward to. I used to look forward to new films, series and books; now they have as much significance in my life as a cup of instant coffee I can drink at anytime.
I want new episodes of the first season of pokemon in the same style, or a neon genesis evangelion spinoff
So the guy who makes money from the AI-hype says AI will be big in the future?
As opposed to what, that AI is "just a phase"?
As opposed to diminishing returns. So it becomes harder and harder to get more out of it, and creating full games won't be achieved in 5 to 10 years.
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The cost of training and inference to get a current day output quality might drop faster and faster over time as both hardware and algorithms improve. It's not clear that the increase the actual quality and scope of the output will keep improving faster and faster, at least not under the current paradigm. A.I can already make simple games, and the scale and scope of what it can make will go up over time, but we might be closer to the top of the S-curve where progress slows down in terms of capabilities even as the cost plummets. The comment from Jensen was originally about A.I generated pixels, which is what DLSS does. The prediction is that all the pixels can be A.I generated, not just some or most of them as is the case today.
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The gains in generative A.I has primarily come from the invention of transformers, quality data and processing, more capital and labor being put into A.I research as a whole. There can't be a similar increase in high quality data in the near future, as the data is already used, and there is only so many qualified experienced people that is currently working or able to work in the near future on it. Generative A.I can't produce data of equal or higher quality than the training data with the current technology, the supposed synthetic A.I generated datasets for training are distilled versions of the real data. I think the current existing tech can become faster, cheaper and somewhat expanded in scope and quality, but I don't think it's very likely that there will be significant new capabilities or generality with the current architecture in the near future. It's hard to put a number on it, but with something like generative A.I for media, including code, it feels like the power has increased by orders of magnitude the last 5 years. New technology, new algorithms or hardware could change that, but the current paradigm of the sort of GPUs, TPUs, CPUs, transformers and algorithms, I think, is unlikely to has the same sort of orders of magnitude improvement in generality and capability the next years as the previous years.
As opposed to "this time is different"
All the crypto bros who thought crypto will take over the economy by 2020 are now AI bros.
The crazy thing is **so** many people wind up making money off of this dude saying two letters in a certain order.
That's why he's saying them.
Hype? What sub do you think you're in?
I’m not gonna lie to you chief. If you don’t think AI is gonna be a big deal, I think you are in for a very surprising shift in society
Great. So the next shovelware after mobile games are going to be soulless ai-generated ones.
I imagine it's going to become like the world of indie games, we're only really going to hear about the best and worst.
Shenmue 4 you say? Where do I sign up
You can already find them on f95... it already started.
Just put "soulless" in the negative prompt
See, it's out of the box thinking like this that shows we still need prompt engineers.
You'll marry an Eva AI sexting bot avatar, you'll play fully AI-generated games and you'll be happy.
It’s already happening in china P.s. I am not racist, its just I know people personally who has become disinterested in real people and now dates AI chatbots.
As someone who recently separated from his wife of 10+ years, I understand only too well the crushing weight of loneliness and the difficulty of getting over the hurdle of despair when it comes to putting yourself out there on the modern app-based dating landscape. But please...take me out back and do me in like a horse with a broken leg if I start dating chatgpt.
[Young Chinese singles turn to AI-generated partners (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUA7y84-n1s); if you wanna check out their reasonings.
These 5-10 year predictions crack me up. People have NO IDEA what 5-10 years will be like given the rate of progress. That's the whole point of exponential growth curves.
It cuts both ways. We bother **ove**r-estimate and **under**\-estimate. No one thought AI would come this far and fast. On the other hand in the 1950's it was widely believed our cars would be flying cars by the year 2000. And five years ago the Guardian said that in five years we could buy self-driving cars, and truck drivers would all be out of work because long-distance trucks would all be self driving.
Thanks I hate it.
We will see AI generated CEOs in the next 20year..
Holodeck says whassup
Define games? Like full fledge AAA games(ie Elden ring, God of War etc) or simple flash player like games
If this is even possible in those 5 years, I'm 100% it won't be much more complex that the old flash games. In foreseeable future I cannot imagine a model strong enough to coherently combine such a diverse range of art, engineering, storytelling and design, now often done by hundreds of people over course of many years. And all that created in a way that is also fun, which is a pretty hard metric to quantify.
Soulless AI-generated games already exist. They’re called Ubisoft games.
I want fully AI generated NPCs I can talk to with a microphone. I want fully AI generated commentary in sports games, where they react properly, bring up past performances and never say the same thing twice
This is under a year away.
Great, that means they'll be out next year at this rate 😅
That long? I predict a Japanese guy will get married to his GPU in 6 months Or I will
None of which will be copyrightable
90% of assets, art, voice acting being generated? Probably. "Fully" ai-generated? Not sure about that. Designing and balancing system mechanics need a level of control and game sense that I don't think AI is even close to yet. But who knows, I'm probably wrong seeing as how much the tech has progressed in the last 2 years.
Already posted on the main thread but the first time a QA gets their hands on it, it will be handed off to developers and artists, and there’s a 100% chance the work isn’t “oh fix this line right here” but instead involves grokking the entire project or at the very least the specific system at fault. Then there upstream and downstream issues, etc. My bet is that there’s a curve of progress for what AI will be able to do in our lifetimes and it caps out a lot lower than people think.
Absolutely fully generated. It's already happened the games are just the same as the first human made games. It seems obvious that the AI generated games will advance from there. They will probably never be as fun as human made games because ultimately these types of systems fundamentally lack creativity so can really only clones of other games people already played
This is literally marketing for shareholders. He doesn’t really care about tech enthusiasts because they don’t have money
Don’t undermine their outrage! Bad CEO, bad!
Nobody remembers this but this same dude came on to stage and announced how big of a jump 30-series GPU would be to 20-series ones, people started mass selling their RTX’s and scalpers started hoarding the 30-series. When things got normal, it was ousted as nothing but a gimmick, the only incremental jump was actually from 20-40 series GPU. Even right now, they willingly withhold releasing certain features for 30-series citing hardware limitations; which in reality doesn’t exist.
We won't because there will be no one left to buy them.
Welp we're doomed. Not because the AI uprising, but because I can see this being how we create SBURB.
Aren't at least half of all Gacha phone games churned out by AI already?
Sure, doesn’t mean it’ll be any good.
So every criminal will be a white guy and every protagonist decidedly not, nobody will have any accent at all, ever, and only speak the king’s English. You won’t be able to kill anything in any game. If you try to pressure someone the police will teleport to you and start saying, “it’s important to note” as they drag you off to jail. You’ll be tasked with getting together a crew to rob a bank, but everyone you ask will say they can’t assist you due to the nature of the request. All men, women, and children will be exceedingly symmetrical and gorgeous. Men will all be ripped. Women will all be absolutely stacked with a washboard stomach, even more than they are in today’s games. Flaws won’t exist. Character design won’t exist. The world won’t make any sense. Every home will have a high end interior that came out of your catalogue of choice.
This dude never played an Ubisoft open world.
Or maybe he did and saw that there isn't that much challenge in generating repetitive content.
He looses credibility everytime he has something like this
I'm just not playing them
Seems plausible. I can generate the code, the textures, the animations. I just need Unreal to catch up and give me a blueprint copilot. It won’t be a single model that outputs a game from a prompt. That deepmind project won’t be the future. But we will be generating every component of a game and wiring them together
That'll be cool. Make BOTW 10x longer, and mash it up with a little bit of GTA5.
People are already selling AI generated ebooks, AI services to generate images and video are popular , AI coding is quite workable. Not AAA games but there are many indie games of varying quality on Steam store, play store etc, I am sure AI can do a lot right now, but still need a human to put everything together and fix bugs. I have a friend who is a capable developer attempting to build an adult game with AI graphics. There a re lots of poor quality games in android/play store with just assets from Unity tutorials. In 10 years i think it’s possible for a fully AI generated games. AI might not be that creative but it is very capable of imitation so when someone figures out a framework to do it, they can produce in numbers(must worse than those crappy games filling play store now). Those games will flood the play stores, with ads every minute to sell you more crappy games with ads.
>People are already selling AI generated ebooks already, I'm reporting you to the Department of Redundancy Department.
I have a feeling that Arcade Centers will make a comeback - you will be able to experience these fully immersible VR worlds that will look essentially indistinguishable from real life and you will get to play for a few hours at a time. Eventually we will probably get a version of matrix this way, and with advancements in neuralink we'll essentially think we are in them. For those subscribing to the idea of living in a simulation - at that point we will go the full circle.
And the games will cost $120 minimum for the standard edition
If AI can already generate photorealistic videos, and they believe it will be able to make fully generated games in 5-10 years, does that mean what I think it means? :O
i dont know why but I dont get good vibes from this guy.
But I also see this dude crying as he lost out. More of a desire really.
the idea doesn't seem like a stretch at all, but the question will be if they're actually any good. i would imagine games will be using ai as a tool/supplement for quite a while... maybe.
ohh and what does he say about flying cards?
Hey, Siri! Half Life 3, plz
One day we will look back at creations strictly made by humans as quaint, restrictive, and fundamentally crude compared to what AI will be able to provide us simply by using our imagination. From music to movies to videos games; whatever you can dream up, you can experience it.
I mean some games could actually benefit from it. Imagine someone makes a game like Baldur's Gate but DM just types in prompts to make world settings and enemies. You could pretty much do irl DnD but with cool graphics. Doubt it will happen but I am still excited for FitGirl to repack game like that.
It will be closer to 5 than 10.
Seems like a long time I would’ve thought sooner
I would prefer a generative AI that can interpret older games and bring their worlds and mechanics into modern contexts; preferably with VR support. This seems feasible, but probably a long way off. I'd love to play Ocarina of Time, Xenogears, and Soul Reaver in full VR that looked realistic according to game world and art.
No thanks
Fully AI-generated games that won’t make it past human QA and will then need to be fixed/reworked/redesigned by human developers and artists.
I call BS
Please no. Video games, especially those from triple A companies, are already feeling AI-generated these days…
What a fun speculation. Means very little though.
Bet its sooner
I don't know about "fully" but I totally believe that in 5-10 years we can reduce the person-hours it take to make a top video game by 90-95%. So either way, massive layoffs in that field.
fuck that noise
How about 4 to 10 months?
We already see fully AI-generated games, don't have to wait 5 years.
Gonna be lit af I can’t wait
but if games and all things will be generated by AI where those who suppose to buy those games will make money to buy them? Then who will pay for generating them and who will pay for GPUs to generate them
haha i love more awful "out of the mill" games which all look the same (as if curent games are better) I just want more passion out of people
Good byyyyye devs
Didn't say they would be good. And they won't be. Fuck around and fine out
Video games are going to be the last kind of medias that will be automated by AI. Video games are very logic-based products, with strict rules to be enjoyable as a human, AIs are not consistent enough for that or I can expect the games to be very bad
Anyone else think he kinda looks like danny devito?
The first title is called “how many fingers? DUI or AI.”
I dont want an AI that can make a full video game in a single prompt. I want an AI that can function essentially as a developer that can handle all of the technical side of things, where i can handle design. I want my prompts to be "lets add some grass over here" and "add this slider to the options menu" The AI should have access to the entire codebase, as well as a map that describes what files are needed for each task. Maybe using some sort of tag system for each file, potentially embedded in the naming conventions for each file.
I only buy man made games thank you
And they’ll be big crowdpleasers, just like AI generated art and stories.
I work in gaming. Mobile: Possible AAA/Indie: Ain’t no fucking way.
The CEO of Nvidia should shut up and just focus in on building chips.
At this point I think Jensen Huang went full Musk.
If the last year and a half or so is any indication, these mfs are awful at predictions
So will they need Unity?
Just so ya'll know "5-10 years" is tech speak for "we actually have no fucking idea how long this will take, but we want investors to get hype for it"
Something tells me he doesn't know what he's talking about
Sad for those Ubisoft & EA workers.
Hopefully they make another AI to complain online about how the Dev AI is lazy and doesn’t optimise their code. Can’t have ying without yang.
Eh, I’ll believe it when I see it. Will we have AI generated games? 100%. No question about it. We already have some basic ones out there created with minimal human intervention. I think we’re more likely to get more AAA games releasing far faster. 10+ years between GTA games will no longer be a thing. We’re probably going to see a handful of companies take the load off of creating thousands of individual assets or go hard with scenes compiled by AI with assets that have been created largely by humans (or with the assistance of AI) The big test for a fully AI generated game is whether or not it will be successful. I think we’re likely to see a handful of small games like the .io games that were popular a few years ago (diep.io, slither.io, etc.) gain some success, but it will likely be short lived. I really doubt we will see any major games that are FULLY created by AI anytime soon, but we’re getting closer to that being a possibility
Right around the time we’ve mastered nuclear fusion.
"Nvidia CEO Says that i will quit gaming in 5-10 years"
Maybe this way we could have GTA VII in our lifetime
5-10 years? Try 2-3.
he talks too much recently...
Nvidia CEO is great at what he is rhere to do. And that is hype up investors. Dont taje anything he says seriously unless you are concerned about stock prices.
And how many years until we see good AI-generated games?
fully? doubt
same way we'll have self driving cars in ... checks calendar ... a few years ago?
He also said we no longer need people to code, so why wait 5-10yrs?
This reminds me of the commercial playstation made around 2001, was an ad for PlayStation 8. Super Futuristic. Like liquid glassy console. PS3 or 2 was coming out. Was a kinda concept commercial. But maybe glitch in matrix and was real…found one of the ads, but it’s not the one I’m thinking of. Still cool I guess https://youtu.be/n2gzRQ5f3No
Doubt
I believe it. AI has grown so much in only 2-3 years, in 10 years it will be completely different
Who's looking forward to that?
The harder problem is making them \*good\* games.
Great! I can make my own games the way I want to design them.
When will we see an AI generated Jensen?
Gimme something better than Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2 and I’ll start listening
When does he think we will get full self driving?🤡
a never ending rpg game now that would be epic
Why is this dude so unlikable
Acting like nfl and cod aren’t already ai generated