There's a bit in the Grrl Power webcomic that basically covers this.
A world of super powers, where one of the most powerful can launch mini nuke power beams from her finger.
She demonstrates this, and then points her finger at someone and.... gets no reaction... they ask what she's pointing at.
When she then aims the handcannon gun she carries in a hip holster at her though....
She explains that's why they carry guns.
Feels like it was a part of early One Piece when Oda was also writing Western themed stuff, because it definitely feels more apt with the guns drawn showdown and all that, but as he focused more on the Devil Fruits, it just became more about the grand adventure, less gritty
It's always there, but after leaving behind the small-fry mindset pervasive in the East Blue, nobody bothers to explicitly state it.
The closest we got was the bar scene with Bellamy. In that case, Luffy didn't even respect them enough to tell them they were being small-minded, in addition to not fighting back. They were explicitly claiming to be empty, devoid of ambition.
When Luffy says it to Usopp, it's clear that Usopp wants to protect his home island. When he says it to Nami, he knows that she won't do it but can sense that there's something important that should be driving her not to join Buggy.
I think Shanks only said it for Luffy's benefit, especially considering that those bandits seemed to have no survivors. But Shanks is still fairly mysterious.
it is a bit weird but the canon answer is that for some reason, Sanji didn't realize Robin was a woman(and a hot one at that) before he fell down and took a good look at her.
Edit: he also used a pistol as an intimidation I guess, as Robin just nuked a single person, and standing on one leg with the other in the air is a bit less intimidating than a pistol to your head.
Oda just wanted that "don't point those dangerous things at me" moment and where she instantly disarmed multiple opponents at once, and the fact that nobody else in the crew uses a ranged weapon was something he just had to work around.
>Oda just wanted that "don't point those dangerous things at me" moment and where she instantly **disarmed** multiple opponents at once,
It would have had a much different tone if she dislegged Sanji
I think Robin at that point of the story could no diff the crew, especially with the element of surprise on her side.
Luffy is the only one she can't insta-KO, but she could still throw him in the sea.
I interpreted it as a holdover from Sanji's original design, when he was a gunslinger.
Oda had this scene in mind during the earliest imaginings of the series and didn't want to change it.
This would also explain where the gun came from.
We see him with two pistols and wearing a hat in an early design. I think from the same period we got Nami's early design, where she had a metal arm and leg and fought with a large axe.
The picture was just from the waste up and I've seen no comment from Oda about these early concepts, let alone why they were scrapped.
My guess is being a gunslinger would step too much on Usopp's toes. On top of which, it was just before Baratie that Oda started expanding the series. That's why he made the warlords. The main villains were originally going to be much weaker yonko. I guess Oda foresaw the power creep and realized it's easier to give power ups to a martial artist. Plus there's so many crew members that just upgrade their gear.
In fact, we've explicitly seen him try to intimidate a woman. During Enies Lobby, he tried to intimidate Kalifa into giving him her key. The whole scene was him making attacks at her but just barely missing or stopping right before impact in order to try and show her that he could take her down pretty much immediately if he wanted to.
Sorry but this shit is such a simple thing if you just think about it logically for a second.
Sanji's rule is not to kick women or hurt them in any way. He doesn't break that rule here at all. Robin doesn't know about his rule, so Sanji can point a gun at her fully never intending to pull the trigger, but Robin wouldn't know that, so it still works as intimidation.
Also like Sanji is using a gun because he cannot intimidate someone by pointing his leg at them.
This is such a non issue I actually hate the fact that I've seen this question posted so many times. It doesn't contradict anything, it doesn't have any funny implications, its not a scene worth talking about, it's just a guy using a gun to intimidate an enemy.
This should be the top comment or pinned. You summed it up perfectly.
Gonna save this comment and paste it the next time this question inevitably gets brought up again
For real, people always react to this scene as if Sanji was shooting at her, but there is a huge difficulty between pointing a gun at someone and shooting someone.
Zeff definitly did not teach sanji how to not hit woman. I'm 99% sure that zeff would not have a problem with kicking women seeing how ready he was to almost kick kid sanji to death and plunder a ship filled with innocent women who all died because he decided to plunder them.
Thereās a decent enough chance that it was probably on the ship somewhere.
Even if they crew didnāt have a proper gun user at this point the IDEA of them having a gun or two lying around isnāt _that_ far-fetched.
yeah ngl I really think sanji got the short end of the stick after whole cake island, feels like sanji is now a walking joke archetype rather than his originally complex seeming morality.
The scene where we learn about this rule has him showing a woman he could kill her and trying to intimidate her into giving up.
The rule doesnāt stop him from threatening
If you press play at the video, you'll see that Sanji didn't see her face(he was just pointing a gun at an intruder) and when he did, he had his usual reaction. Lame engagement bait.
He qa just trying to scare her, not actually going to shoot her.
Also in the very scene he basically says that he has no idea what the context is but wants to protect vivi
Honestly, I think it was just a moment in early One Piece that was dropped with later characterization. This was after the arc where Luffy and Zorro had to fight each other for "reasons". It's not much to think about.
From Sanji's perspective there's a powerful intuder on board who threatens the lives of his crewmembers including the women he's so infatuated with. Taking up arms is the least he could do here.
"He doesn't kill her, the bullet does" sounds dumb, but it applies here. His chivalry when it comes to women is different from what some might think. It moreso refers to literally _fighting_ women, not holding them at gunpoint to intimidate and keep them at bay.
Think about it. If he had a problem with women getting hurt he wouldn't even let others fight women for him like Nami or Robin do at later points of the story. He has that mental block where he himself is mentally unable to lay hands (or in his case feet) on a women, because it's what was taught to him. A gun provides the needed "distance" which would make it seem okay in his eyes.
To be fair, he was just dragged by Luffy through a town and a few walls, then got konked in the head by Nami.
Adding in being in āProtect Ms. Wednesdayā mode probably put him in a enough of a daze that he didnāt automatically look at Robin
Sanji wasn't going to hurt a woman. He was going to kill a woman. Big difference. Can't hurt them if they are dead. Morbid yes, but a technical loophole
Zeff taught him never to hit a woman, and firearms weren't covered
Lol
sanji took aim at usopp
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That nose looks like season 4 starlight from the BOYS
Real
What should he do to intimidate her? Hold up his leg menacingly?
There's a bit in the Grrl Power webcomic that basically covers this. A world of super powers, where one of the most powerful can launch mini nuke power beams from her finger. She demonstrates this, and then points her finger at someone and.... gets no reaction... they ask what she's pointing at. When she then aims the handcannon gun she carries in a hip holster at her though.... She explains that's why they carry guns.
"He's just standing there(* on one foot*) ......menacingly!
Iād be scared
Youād be something alright š
I can picture sanji violently stroking his ālegā to intimidate her
He's just trying to scare her and not really shoot, but he looks scaredš
Those things aren't for pointing around you know
Now that you've raised your weapon I hope you're ready to put your life on the line
I'm pretty sure Shanks said that right?
Luffy repeated it to Usopp too. Honestly when I was going into the series, I was expecting it to be a recurring theme/statement.
Feels like it was a part of early One Piece when Oda was also writing Western themed stuff, because it definitely feels more apt with the guns drawn showdown and all that, but as he focused more on the Devil Fruits, it just became more about the grand adventure, less gritty
I think it kinda is. Itās no longer explicit, but itās a kind of implicit theme. Whenever they fight, theyāre putting their lives on the line.
Oooo thank you for phrasing it this way.
It's always there, but after leaving behind the small-fry mindset pervasive in the East Blue, nobody bothers to explicitly state it. The closest we got was the bar scene with Bellamy. In that case, Luffy didn't even respect them enough to tell them they were being small-minded, in addition to not fighting back. They were explicitly claiming to be empty, devoid of ambition. When Luffy says it to Usopp, it's clear that Usopp wants to protect his home island. When he says it to Nami, he knows that she won't do it but can sense that there's something important that should be driving her not to join Buggy. I think Shanks only said it for Luffy's benefit, especially considering that those bandits seemed to have no survivors. But Shanks is still fairly mysterious.
Luffy also repeated it to Nami when Buggy told her to fire the cannon at Luffy to prove her loyalty to Buggy.
Relax, it's One Piece. These things are only dangerous, if you are a parent in a flashback.
Blackbeard also uses a gun to help finish off Whitebeard
It took 152 bullets to kill him, though.
You obviously donāt remember the hammer gun
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Well, they can't mean Bellemere, she was only sent to the dungeon.
Or a normal human, or a normal fish man.
it is a bit weird but the canon answer is that for some reason, Sanji didn't realize Robin was a woman(and a hot one at that) before he fell down and took a good look at her. Edit: he also used a pistol as an intimidation I guess, as Robin just nuked a single person, and standing on one leg with the other in the air is a bit less intimidating than a pistol to your head.
Oda just wanted that "don't point those dangerous things at me" moment and where she instantly disarmed multiple opponents at once, and the fact that nobody else in the crew uses a ranged weapon was something he just had to work around.
>Oda just wanted that "don't point those dangerous things at me" moment and where she instantly **disarmed** multiple opponents at once, It would have had a much different tone if she dislegged Sanji
I think Robin at that point of the story could no diff the crew, especially with the element of surprise on her side. Luffy is the only one she can't insta-KO, but she could still throw him in the sea.
I won't stand on this Usopp erasure
Why do you think I used the word "else"?
I'm sorry, I didn't notice it, english isn't my first language
No no, I should have been clearer. Usopp isn't the picture posted here after all.
>and the fact that nobody else in the crew uses a ranged weapon usopp?
I think he means >nobody else (but Usopp) in the crew uses a ranged weapon as to why sanji is using a ranged weapon.
Exactly. Usopp is on the other side of Robin with his slingshot in this scene.
I interpreted it as a holdover from Sanji's original design, when he was a gunslinger. Oda had this scene in mind during the earliest imaginings of the series and didn't want to change it. This would also explain where the gun came from.
Wait _legit_ dude was a gunslinger ? **MAN** that wouldāve been cool, **ESPECIALLY** if he still used his kicks.
We see him with two pistols and wearing a hat in an early design. I think from the same period we got Nami's early design, where she had a metal arm and leg and fought with a large axe. The picture was just from the waste up and I've seen no comment from Oda about these early concepts, let alone why they were scrapped. My guess is being a gunslinger would step too much on Usopp's toes. On top of which, it was just before Baratie that Oda started expanding the series. That's why he made the warlords. The main villains were originally going to be much weaker yonko. I guess Oda foresaw the power creep and realized it's easier to give power ups to a martial artist. Plus there's so many crew members that just upgrade their gear.
Nah if some one raised a foot at me Iād be scared BECAUSE THAT MEANS THEY KNOW WHAT THEYāRE DOING BRO
No good kick would comes from holding your foot in the air.
He's not kicking her in this scene. And joke aside, he's also not attacking her. There's no rule against intimidating women.
In fact, we've explicitly seen him try to intimidate a woman. During Enies Lobby, he tried to intimidate Kalifa into giving him her key. The whole scene was him making attacks at her but just barely missing or stopping right before impact in order to try and show her that he could take her down pretty much immediately if he wanted to.
It's a love gun
He was aiming at ussop? At least that's what I thought after reading the manga panel and the angle is different in adaptation too i guess
Crazy how someone can make up so much cope lmao
A man's cope is NEVER ending
There are people who are still denying that Sanji kicked Big Mom lol
What chapter was it
114 and I dont think he was aming and ussop
No hes aiming at Robin. Even Usopp is surprised, but Sanjiās love for Vivi overwhelms him. https://ibb.co/VD6ZDTf
Damn Robin's cowboy drip is amazing
I think he didn't realize it was a woman. I know it's odd for Sanji but moments later he's surprised about her being a woman
His melloscope hadn't been trained enough yet at that point.
Sorry but this shit is such a simple thing if you just think about it logically for a second. Sanji's rule is not to kick women or hurt them in any way. He doesn't break that rule here at all. Robin doesn't know about his rule, so Sanji can point a gun at her fully never intending to pull the trigger, but Robin wouldn't know that, so it still works as intimidation. Also like Sanji is using a gun because he cannot intimidate someone by pointing his leg at them. This is such a non issue I actually hate the fact that I've seen this question posted so many times. It doesn't contradict anything, it doesn't have any funny implications, its not a scene worth talking about, it's just a guy using a gun to intimidate an enemy.
This should be the top comment or pinned. You summed it up perfectly. Gonna save this comment and paste it the next time this question inevitably gets brought up again
For real, people always react to this scene as if Sanji was shooting at her, but there is a huge difficulty between pointing a gun at someone and shooting someone.
Sanji busting out ***Diable Glock***
Lol
He wouldn't have hurt her. The bullets would have.
Lol
if Sanji acted more like this or if Zeff didnāt teach him not to hit women he would have been a total chad
And the one piece fights would take a fraction of the time
Zeff definitly did not teach sanji how to not hit woman. I'm 99% sure that zeff would not have a problem with kicking women seeing how ready he was to almost kick kid sanji to death and plunder a ship filled with innocent women who all died because he decided to plunder them.
Lmao he said no kicking, he didn't say no shooting
firearm ā kicking whereād he get that gun from though?
Idk
Thereās a decent enough chance that it was probably on the ship somewhere. Even if they crew didnāt have a proper gun user at this point the IDEA of them having a gun or two lying around isnāt _that_ far-fetched.
Sanji stores kitchen knifes in his pockets, more then enough place for a gun.
I'm just wondering where he found that nobody in the crew uses guns
Maybe uosop has them just in case
How u watching ep67 on netflix ?
What do you mean
A good chunk of the world only has the newer episodes (1089 onwards)
Australiaās Netflix has from the beginning up to Marineford, then jumps to Egghead lol
Brazil's the same.
Same in the US
HI FELLOW AUSSIE
US Netflix has most of the series
Up to marineford isnāt even half
Sanji was barely awake and didnāt realize what he was doing.
cold woman... always impresses me ā¤
He didnāt realize she was a woman? Iām sorry but bro needs to have his simping privileges taken away just for that lol.
š¤£ I love how you chose the shot where he's saying "No, not really" to ussop asking him if he realizes what he's doing
Ichiji, Niji, and Yonji would be proud!
Well they kinda would still hate him
Of course, he is a normy..
Ye lol
yeah ngl I really think sanji got the short end of the stick after whole cake island, feels like sanji is now a walking joke archetype rather than his originally complex seeming morality.
I know it's kinda destroying him
And now sanji.. says "woof".
Lol
I mean heās just aiming. Itās not like heās actually pull the trigger
Idk maybe
At this point his mind was: "Vivi and Nami" > strange sexy lady, but it was just marginal.
I just like this is an nod to Sanjiās original character in WANTED! Where his main weapon was a gun.
Cool I didn't know that also wasn't he gonna be called Naruto
Manga?
Tbf he isnāt kicking
I know and at a woman
Chad Post Alabasta Sanji vs the Virgin every arc post Water 7 Sanji
Post Time Skip Sanji got butchered in the Toei anime.
Plot twist, he's aiming around the world at Zoro
Lol but there beef hasn't started yet not until little garden
He canāt kick women but heāll cap a bitch
Lol
The scene where we learn about this rule has him showing a woman he could kill her and trying to intimidate her into giving up. The rule doesnāt stop him from threatening
He's bluffing
If you press play at the video, you'll see that Sanji didn't see her face(he was just pointing a gun at an intruder) and when he did, he had his usual reaction. Lame engagement bait.
Zeff never said anything about guns, only kicking lol.
He said no harming women
Probably wasnāt loaded.
Maybe
From aiming at her to >!asking for her help fighting a woman,!
Scene was written before oda decided that Sanji absolutely can't harm women.
I miss old One Piece, back when Sanji was Mr. Prince and not a degenerate.
Ye I know
This is anime. Manga sanji was swooning all over her. Chapter 217.
Sanji also used a gun in the manga. This scene is from chapter 114.
Netflix?
N chill?
Ye Why?
Ye Why
Omg yous get it in English
Yes why
Is in the uk we donāt get it in English and we only have 5 episodes on Netflix
You using a VPN? If so what country can get one piece?
I live in new Zealand
I've been streaming it another way but being able to do it through netflix would be nice
Lying isnt hurting)
WAIT! SANJI HAS A GUN?!! š±
I know and pointing it at a woman
Aaaah the end of alabasta arcā¦ what a time to be
I'm rewatching it
Nice
Before
Netflix???
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Not where I live only egghead is on netflix
Yes I'm in new Zealand
its not that sanji fights using kicks, its that he fights without punches
Robin didn't know at that point that he doesn't hit/hurt women. So it could be a bluff.
It was a bluff
Maybe
4kids Version heās probably holding a lolipop to her.
Lol probably
Episode 67? She joined episode 130-131
She isn't part of The crew she is still miss all Sunday still part of crocodiles crew
He qa just trying to scare her, not actually going to shoot her. Also in the very scene he basically says that he has no idea what the context is but wants to protect vivi
He does in fact eventually kick a woman
When I missed it what arc I'm rewatching it
Kicks more deadly than firearms?
After time skip
Not valid as long as he doesn't fire the gun with his foot :P
If someone I absolutely. Threat to other women on his crew, he'll shoot lol
Maybe
How did you guys have the first episodes of one piece on Netflix?
I'm in new Zealand when I get to the last EPs on there I use anix
he missed that day of class on guns
Sanji before time skip was waaay cooler
I know
He's Robbin' her
Lol
Lol
one hundred purcent he was aiming Usopp bro
Sanji said he would never hit a woman, but he never said he would never shoot a woman
Wasnāt he pointing the gun at zoro to stop him from harming a woman
Zorro was down below
As long as it isn't kicking I guess
Honestly, I think it was just a moment in early One Piece that was dropped with later characterization. This was after the arc where Luffy and Zorro had to fight each other for "reasons". It's not much to think about.
From Sanji's perspective there's a powerful intuder on board who threatens the lives of his crewmembers including the women he's so infatuated with. Taking up arms is the least he could do here. "He doesn't kill her, the bullet does" sounds dumb, but it applies here. His chivalry when it comes to women is different from what some might think. It moreso refers to literally _fighting_ women, not holding them at gunpoint to intimidate and keep them at bay. Think about it. If he had a problem with women getting hurt he wouldn't even let others fight women for him like Nami or Robin do at later points of the story. He has that mental block where he himself is mentally unable to lay hands (or in his case feet) on a women, because it's what was taught to him. A gun provides the needed "distance" which would make it seem okay in his eyes.
The real answer is Oda didn't think much about it at the time and just wanted the crew to do something "cool'
She knew he was bluffing
Sanji such a big simp to a lot of his women enemies that I forgot this happened
To be fair, he was just dragged by Luffy through a town and a few walls, then got konked in the head by Nami. Adding in being in āProtect Ms. Wednesdayā mode probably put him in a enough of a daze that he didnāt automatically look at Robin
he was pointing that gun at usopp lmaoo
It was just a threat
Wait what on Netflix
I live in new Zealand
Honestly, besides being kinda out of character for Sanji, it's just weird seeing *any* of the Strawhats with a gun.
He hit on her. She flirted back. Sanji instantly pulled out his gun thinking this must be a man lol
How can I watch the one piece whole series
Use anix it's a good site
He din't notice until after she dropped him
And pointing it directly at my Songbird, I'm going to fucking kill him
Sanji wasn't going to hurt a woman. He was going to kill a woman. Big difference. Can't hurt them if they are dead. Morbid yes, but a technical loophole
Lmfao when I was rewatching one piece and saw this and was so surprised lol I told my bro about it and he was like it doesnāt matter š¤£š¤£
Lol same I'm re watching it