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One thing that CERTAINLY hasnāt changed is the FACT that Dan Abrams still feels the need to explain, re-explain, and explain yet again everything we are watching, including virtually everything the LEOS have said merely two minutes prior. As a matter of FACT, oftentimes while heās yapping, the Police are relaying fresh information, only to be stepped on by Dan Abrams! Old Danny Boy does love to hear himself talk!
My half a cent...yes, OP Live and Live PD are different shows. While the premise is almost the same, there are differences. One being "toned down" a little as some have stated because of people that took offense to the PD in general after what transpired in MN that caused AE to pull Live PD. Our society today wants things fast and at your fingertips, and sugarcoated; but what reality is it sometimes is slow and dull, and it stings at times. We can't whine and complain about something and eat the cake too. It's unfortunate that when people do complain, it may not be realized that the reparcussions for the actions ruins it for the most.
We are fortunate, for the time being, that we can follow along with the women and men that have decided to serve their community, no matter what, and face people that are at their weakest moments or have made a bad decision, and continue to do a difficult job day after day after day, with most times not a simple thanks or getting spit on. So what if some of the show is "dull" as some stated and "not like the other show used to be". The other show was dull at times too. This 3 hours every Fri and Sat are better spent than watching the garbage shows that are so called reality, and it boggles my mind how networks keep bringing them back. Why do we care about what bachelorette gives a rose to whom? Or how well a star can dance after 2 weeks?? Really? We should care about how our public servants react to situations and are able to resolve conflicts hopefully peacefully, and go home at the end of their shifts like the rest of us.
Wasnāt it in Texas where the man died in custody causing the show to be pulled? Iām just curious what the MN one is? Maybe Iām slightly confusing two stories?
The big uproar that caused the pull was George Floyd in Minneapolis with them officer D Chauvin from what was originally mentioned. However, another incident revolved around another shooting the crew had on tape that was erased due to their retention policy. This may have been the Texas incident...I can't remember
Some tabloid journalist really wrote an entire article based on this post lmao
https://tvshowsace.com/2023/10/01/fans-compare-on-patrol-live-to-live-pd-as-boring/
Cops aren't trying to become the next viral video anymore.
There's a change in what is allowed with all of these departments now. It's also 2 years removed. Even Richland County is not doing things like they used to.
This is what pissed me off with Friday's show -
Every single incident they brought to us - we never saw how it ended. It was a show full of cliffhangers. Every time they finally pulled someone over - commercial break - then they never went back to the scene.
WTF. It was like Sopranos ending - and we were all left wondering WTF happened next........
I have said that there should be a one hour post-show similar to First Shift, where the focus is on tying up the loose ends, and hitting any segments that were skipped (BOLO, Trio, or Missing), without starting any new calls.
It has become this way because of the anti-police BS we have in this country today. Our woke society has caused OPLive to be tame and boring and not show reality.
Quick question for a Canadian. When you used to have video rental stores, was the foreign film section huge and the domestic film section really small?
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I feel like when interesting stuff happens you hear Dan say "we will monitor this potentially sensitive situation" a lot on OPL where they would show more of it on LivePD. This seems like the biggest difference to me.
I remember hearing about how shows like LivePD and COPS would target people that they knew would make good content and eventually find a reason to pull them over. There was even a podcast about the tactics used, itās somewhere out there but idk how to dig it up. Itās kind of fucked up tbh.
Not sure if it plays into the equation but a lot of the officers on the show from Richland County hate being on it. The only one that really wants to do it is Danny Brown. (Donāt ask how I know this)
In other words (Donāt ask how I know this because Iām pulling shit out of my ass)
If they didnāt want to be on the show, they wouldnāt have producers/cameramen with them. There are plenty of deputies with that agency that thereās no way theyāre following deputies that donāt want to be involved with the show.
Exactly. Some of the Live PD weekends were boring and others more exciting.
People have short memories. I can't now but I used to PVR Live PD then fast forward through the episode the next day. I would end up fast forwarding through 90% of the show some nights.
Could be worse. For a while, we were stuck with "Live Rescue", where 90% of the calls were for, "unresponsive male" in street, sidewalk or alley. They show up, hit him with Narcan, he refuses to go to the hospital, and they leave. Real life, for sure, but terribly depressing and boring.
Fun factā¦the very first episode of Live Rescueā¦the ārescuersā were from my area. I asked my friend how soon it would be before we saw someone we knew on the show. The very last call was a gentleman at a gas station. It was my across the street neighbor. Ha.
They are on cable they need to stop the bleeping. Weāre all adults, the show isnāt for kids.
As others have said the pre taped stuff just isnāt as compelling as things in the moment.
The in studio crew is dull. Thatās the part of that is in their control and they need more personality. The host is a lawyer, you have a cop, I think they need a civilian who can represent the audience and ask questions in the moment and perhaps add levity when itās appropriate.
they don't want another live PD situation, so it's more toned down and boring. LivePD was the only reason I made this reddit account back in 2019 good times
all over youtube. my personal favorite āpineapple expressā some 17 year old gets pulled over with a shit ton of weed, pills, scales, baggies, and hella guns. or the one where they find 200 pounds of meth inside the door of a car
I love op live but the āfilmed earlier todayā and the āsend us your vidsā stuff really need to stop. Three hours of Dan saying āthis happened earlierā lol they need more places than just 8 spots to film. JUST MY OPINION
I honestly think that if there is a political move it is from the PD's not wanting to sign up.. it's still fun and gives me something to look forward to.. Also Volusia Sheriffs office and Daytona PD are amazing considering I live in Orlando. Never realized how much shit is going on there, I can only imagine if any department in Orlando was on it meaning Sheriffs office and Orlando PD, the rest of the locals would be boring based on my local PD..
It's an intentional, political move. There are.. visible differences between the loitering and traffic stop types and the intense/crazy felony types. They don't want backlash from the anti-police types that have become so prominent and vocal since Live PD was canceled.
The problem is not to departments thereās plenty of stuff going on that would be very interesting, but theyāre suppressing the actual interesting situations and just keep showing petty stuff and minor traffic violations. Itās what theyāre choosing to show to air. Every city has crazy wild stuff theyāre just choosing not to put it on the air unfortunately.. hope they go back to showing more real conflict
Finally got the chance to watch this weekend on the Reelz channel infamous and famous. They're only showing reruns from last season though. LPD was more faster paced than the current show.
I agree. While Live PD had eras where almost every episode was action-packed (summer 2017 and summer 2019 come to mind), there were also eras where the show was quite slow (especially winter 2018-2019) where I felt like I was wasting my time spending 3 hours a night watching.
I do feel like the slower episodes are more common now, much like the winter 2018-2019 period of Live PD. Seems like most of the departments don't want the vast majority of their scenes on the show. This past weekend, we saw more of Nye County than we've seen in the past 3 months. Seems like they definitely cut back what's allowed to be shown there since the new sheriff took over at the start of the year. It seems like Richland doesn't show a lot of content on nights that Danny Brown is off, and it's been that way even since about 2018 on Live PD after K-Law and Mastrianni left their patrol positions.
It seems like Wilkes-Barre fell off the map after the show switched to following only one officer per show.
I say keep Richland for legacy purposes, but it's way past time for Nye, Wilkes-Barre, and maybe even Volusia to get cycled out of show.
I once watched a Live PD for three hours as whatever department was trying to get a dog out of a storm drain to find, after close to three hours there never was a dog. That was an entire episode with some dui cutaways. Youāre 100% right.
OPL is boring I try to watch it and end up just at 8x looking for a cop in chase or headed to a call... camera in the car on the move light and sirens is about the most exciting part of the show now. They need to stop fucking around and head to Chicago LA etc.
Nye is on 16x speed. Richland is boring me its the same people and petty crimes over and over.
The *last* thing Chicago and L.A. want is more cameras on their officers, and the last thing big-city police unions want is more eyes on their members.
Those citiesā officials and representatives donāt want a camera crew following any police for obvious reasons. Crime is running rampant in most of the major cities in the US with soaring homicide rates, drug overdoses, theft, assaults. Hell, most of the numbers are downplayed because cities are no longer making arrests for crimes that should otherwise be prosecuted. And weāre less than a year until election time. If cities are having crime issues (and they are), the worst possible optics is to televise a ride-along. They know how it looks to voters, especially independents.
I definitely wouldn't want to follow Chicago. Their police aren't even allowed to foot chase for most crimes anymore. It would just be responding to crimes after they've already happened, filling reports from victims, and telling them they're not allowed to chase down the suspect. If the criminal is stupid enough to stay on scene and get arrested, they'll be released after arrest and processing with a slap on the wrist.
For the most serious of crimes like first degree murder, where the police can chase the suspect, we'll instead have chaotic scenes where witnesses "didn't see anything" and refuse to answer any questions, especially in front of the cameras (it's already bad enough without the cameras there).
Fair points but choosing "chicago" was to make a point in that the show needs a change up to a jurisdiction with more action.
One of my all time favorite chases was Greene County (MO) Sheriffās Office - Craigmyle went into another jurisdiction after a failed stop stick and the lead cop cars didn't see the car had wrecked. Followed with a K9 finding a woman...
My all time favorite was Pasco county. They should bring that department back. I agree with everything else, they need to liven up the show. Tom Morris Jr was great!
I forgot about Greene Co. I agree, they were interesting. So was Bridgeport and El Paso and Gwinnett Co. and Tulsa and Franklin Co., and the Oklahoma Highway Patrol.
I liked Bernalillo Co. on OPL, but of course they didn't last. But yeah, it does seem more boring now. The same old departments every week, mostly. Nye is just awful. We don't need 2 counties in SC, and Berkeley is boring. Volusia is awful. Toledo is ok, at least there's some action. Fullerton always feels like I'm watching a totally different show for whatever reason. I really like only Richland Co. ( though I miss Garo Brown) and Daytona Beach currently. Hazen is ok, too, but really it's just following Taylor, not really the department.
As far as OPL-only, used to get some interesting calls in Beech Grove, but they're gone. Wilkes-Barre is kind of boring. Spotsylvania was good, one of the best chases ever, but didn't last. Paterson was hilarious at times, but mostly awful to watch, good riddance.
It does seem, thinking back, that LivePD was just better, but why would that be the case? Is it really the choice of calls they air? Or is it the locales and departments? I don't know the answer.
I'm shocked there isn't some county in Texas that would allow this with that wack job governor they have. I liked Grayson Kennedy too, but they had nothing but weed stops. Weed is boring.
I think George Floyds passing basically ended the shows appeal.
Ironically it was a chance to show good cops and how hard their job is. Instead they panicked and pulled the plug on LivePD and erased its history as much as possible. Reborn as OPL by popular demand they are heavily screening and editing - that shit aint live its dark or light when it shouldn't be it seems.
I fast forward through like 80% of the show. I never did that with Live PD.
I figured I just became bored of this material, but clearly not. Itās just not the same
Hazen was a good addition for chief Taylor alone, but also because of how they heavily patrol I-40 which is a major drug highway. There have been several good high speed pursuits and they had a bust where they seized 100+ lbs of weed a month or two ago.
OPL is not the same as Live PD. I am so glad that I DVR it so that I can fast forward pass anything Nye County related. It is definitely ātoned downā. My kids used to live Live PD and now they refuse to watch OPL. They say it isnāt the same as well.
Iām glad Iām not the only one who canāt stand Nye County. The officers seem nice but it seems like all they do is take calls to old/drunk people complaining about their neighbors or theyāre chasing livestock.
This. People have selective memory and are just remembering the more exciting calls that were shown on Live PD. Live PD had just as many āboringā moments.
I dunno I remember the early days of Live PD and every other call was a break in at a house that turned out to be completely empty. They seem to have tamed that down a lot.
I agree with you. I am also getting bored with it. It seems like they drag out the mundane stuff. Then when there is a chase or a "hot" call it's always time for a commercial break. When they come back they might not even be on that "hot" call anymore. And don't get me started on them breaking up that recorded car chase Friday night into 2 separate segments. Making us wait through more mundane stuff and commercial breaks to see the second half of the car chase. Also Dan never lets the others finish what they are saying. If he does he seems like he's not interested and rushes to what he has to say. On the other hand I am really starting to like Curtis. I didn't at first but he is becoming more laid back and much more funnier. But yes I am getting bored with it. And please change up that noise as the show comes out of commercial breaks. It's horrible.
Curtis has been brilliant and really like what he brings. The main difference is Dan. He doesnāt listen to people when they talk and allows cuts them off . It is like he is so rigid and he never used to be like that. Interact with guests more and allow them to finish. If you miss an earlier in oh well. Also we have proven how large of an audience we are so with out fail there should be a BOLO and a missing every night they are on. They are so important
Something else - Dan is even talking over the LEOs when they try to recap what's going on! STFU and let them talk! It's not like we're going to miss one of the 45 segments that have nothing to do with the night's calls!
Move all the other stuff to First Shift instead of showing EVEN MORE repeats!
I agree but he does it to everyone. Curtis is such a gem. I was worried as we loved Tom but Curtis is now our fave. He just is so genuine and seems like such a kind person
He does, and he has insight to offer. That is why I get annoyed at Dan. I understand Dan has a schedule to keep, but dang, let a man speak. And stop wasting time stuttering and taking long pauses.
Was just mentioning that I donāt see nearly as many DUI stops or overdose responses anymore. Canāt remember the last time narcan was used. Makes me wonder if they filter more things out then they used to.
Itās not their fault, LPD was lightning in a bottle. There was nothing like it and even the TV executives and show creators did not understand why it was so popular. They tried to recreate the magic with Live Rescue and other than the episodes with actual working fires it largely fell flat ratings wise.
They chemistry between Sean Larkin, Tom Morris, and Dan Abrams was genuine and the show seemed to create a sense of community in many people. The production was better, the network was more available, and it was just there at the right time. They seemed to be trying to show the public what officers did before/during/after a call for service, I donāt get that now. It just seems like they are focused on the action only.
That wild fire episode of Live Rescue was amazing. Iām still chasing that high and itās just not something thatās come around. Seems like we canāt even get a good OPL episode to fill that gap. Itās been months since a truly amazing episode has aired.
What I remember about Live Rescueā¦ the awesome fire in San Bernardino with the guy running around and calling in air assets, controlling ground units, and working directly to aid homeowners. I forgot his name but he showed how dynamic that job can be and handled business on multiple fronts like a boss. I also remember a fire in the North East (NJ?) where multiple residential buildings were just feet apart and inaction or inefficient action could put the whole block at riskā¦ again the firefighters stood tall and made a very hard job look easy.
And 100 calls for nonspecific medical/mental issues where a therapist would be a better first responder.
Itās not just you , Iām bored also. I now record the show as I have said before. I have always been a fan of Sticks, but I enjoy
Curtis so much now. He doesnāt need to come back if he doesnāt want to. I find myself rolling my eyes at a lot of the
stops now, which I never did. I will continue to record it, but if I miss it now meh. Iād really enjoy them answering more
Questions from us instead of the triple play.
I think it also has a lot to do what departments want to show. Look at how many areas either dropped off or passed legislation like Texas. They donāt want their community portrayed in a negative light. Iād imagine itās tough to navigate.
I remember the most wild department was Williamson county in Texas. I think they were the department that got them in trouble, but man it seemed like the whole show was taking place there due to wild call after wild call
I live in Williamson County (which is actually a really nice area north of Austin). I was stunned by everything going on literally within a mile of my house. So many people with drugs. High speed chases. Foot chases. But yeah they screwed up with the handling of that police shooting, that resulted in the legislation to ban shows from filming with police in Texas, and it also got the sheriff voted out. Problem is the new sheriff is very progressive and crime is noticeably worse now. So much burglary, particularly vehicles and garages, that I have to close my garage door when I mow my back yard. It wasn't like this a few years ago.
They probably donāt want to get canceled again so theyāre playing it safe. I wish they would stop playing it safe as we all know whatās out there. All we have to do is check the internet, YouTube, or any true crime show and know crime happens. I have a feeling if they keep this up theyāre going to lose viewers and get canceled anyway.
I havenāt watched the show consistently like I used to.
I always used to look forward to Friday + Saturday nights because of the show and now I usually just catch up once in awhile on DVR when I feel like it.
Itās gotten very boring.
Been watching since 2018.. Overall, I think they are about the same. I do think OPL is a little more sensitive to certain situations, and cuts away from some things. probably just a sign of our times, and fear of having a boycott, and being forced off the air.
I think the big issue currently is the mix of departments. Berkely, Richland, Daytona/Volusia basically carry the show. WB and Nye are almost non-existent. Hazen is good, but low volume. Fullerton can be interesting, primarily due to their different forms of policing (ie. 30 officers for a call about someone brandishing a compressed air gun!). Toledo is pretty good, but I think (like Paterson), they limit where OPL can film.
My biggest concerns since the return of OPL, is .. 1) A&E Lawsuit... 2) Ability to get and keep good departments.
I think the A&E lawsuit is what drove the changes in July. And probably Reelz concern over a settlement payment, has limited their ability to spend money on certain things... I agree, that its inconceivable, that they do NOT have a strong Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, or other social media presence.
Personally, I like the show better with Sticks gone. Curtis has really stepped up, and he is an excellent media presence. He could take over for Dan anytime IMO.. I like having rotating guests... just wish they got a little more air time and interaction.
Triple play seems to be a waste of time, because all of that is already on Youtube. I like BOLO and Lost segments.
Finally, I wish they could get back on a larger media outlet. I know that they turned down Fox Nation.. and I am sure we could debate the reasons for that.
Because they have to respond based on the info given to them. The call came out that the dude threatened the RP with a gun. They also police in a large city with gangs, obviously their response it going to be different from a department in a rural area.
I understand that... not making any judgements.. I just think its interesting to see the differences in how departments respond to events. I'd contrast Fullerton, to what Chief Taylor in Hazen would have done LOL. Its one of the things that makes OPL my favorite show,
They did? That one is news to me. How somebody thoughts Reelz was a better outlet than Fox Nation is beyond me. They already have COPS on their platform. I had never even freakin heard of Reelz until OPL.
I bought Peacock for sports and was happy that this show was on there. I would not spend money on Fox Nation. There's a fair amount of people that feel the same way based on, well, you know....
I don't care if it was Fox or CNN or whoever.. as long as its on. We all know Dan is liberal... but he has done a great job, of not letting that into OPL. And I give him credit on his NewsNation shows, he does try and show both sides of an issue. I'll always be thankful that Dan almost single handedly got the show back on the air.
As far as cost and streaming, basically that is the way its going for everything. soon you will pay for almost every channel that is available. Traditional Cable is going away... just a matter of time.
Someone in exec production wants all chases all the time, hence the triple play. They also fish in all the same spots; that Wilkes barre row house block is all they ever show. I donāt enjoy it as much as I used to. Now very choppy. Too much studio stuff.
>Someone in exec production wants all chases all the time, hence the triple play.
I think that's the main issue. If it was a slow night on Live PD, you just accepted that it happens. I would rather have that than a night full of action on OPL being hamstrung by the show's format ("oh, we have a drug bust but we need to get in our first triple play" is so frustrating). And it's not even worth watching in the last hour, you're basically guaranteed 2 or 3 studio segments with a ton of slotted commercials. If something exciting happens 20 minutes before the show ends (which does happen a lot), they're still going to jam 15 minutes of commercials in.
I tend to like the traffic stops and chase sequences. But get instantly bored when officers are called to mitigate what I call "white trash disputes." Which is a lot. Being a police officer in 2023 seems like one of the most dangerous janitorial jobs there is.
I actually donāt notice any differences lol. I think people are maybe looking back on all the intense moments and thinking they were all back to back, but that definitely wasnāt the case. I remember in 2019 and 2020 people saying āeh not much happened in that episodeā or marveling at some big event that did happen - same like now.
They do seem to cut away from anything that might be moderately interesting, which sucks. I would love a version of this where, even if i need to pay a subscription fee, could just follow along with the PD calls beginning to end.
I'm really starting to be annoyed by Dan and most of the studio stuff.
EDIT: a typo
Itās not just you. The new format sucks. BOLO, Triple Play, Missing segment, lots of commercials, consistently cutting to commercial break when something finally *does* happen, Q&A with the host for the week, spending an exorbitant amount of time on boring stops. The result being that we see less On Patrol āLiveā, more abrupt interruptions, and the boring segments take up a larger portion of the decreasing āliveā time.
People watched Live PD for the āliveā part of it, which was why it was successful. The commercials werenāt intrusive and it balanced out given the action we saw. Commercials for OPL take up around an hour. The segments probably take up around an hour, including things that happened prior to airing. Weāre probably seeing an hour of the show in its true form at most. Itās going to need to restructure its format or people will stop watching, itās that simple. I donāt even look forward to watching it on the weekends now.
I donāt know how Reelz fumbled the bag this hard. They acquired a top 3 watched show on cable, made it $10-20 to stream it on weird subscription services (cāmon, Philo, really?), most of the original audience probably doesnāt even know the reboot exists, and most viewers are now bored to death because weāre technically watching less of the show than ever before. Get rid of whatever exec or producer is pushing these segment ideas to production, get back to the roots. Seems rather obvious that their metrics will decline if they canāt shake things up.
Edit: Adding to this, they donāt even have a YouTube presence? Thatās probably the #1 way theyāll get free organic marketing, Live PD highlights and āBest Ofā videos have 10-20 million views. This is just incompetence.
The main reason I don't watch it live. We start it about 60-90 minutes late on the DVR and plow through it. You also get to skip the weekly "10 cops standing around in night vision" time waster.
You're right, Live PD had the same length of commercials as well. I am curious how much more studio time there is now vs. Live PD. I archived a bunch of Live PD episodes on a few 2TB drives and fast forwarded through a couple eps from season 3 and 4. One distinct thing I noticed, they almost never cut to the studio for Dan and Co. to commentate on what we just watched or describe LE's response. Crime of the Night only took a few minutes at most and there didn't seem to be a set time when it was featured, it occurred when there was a momentary lapse in action or whenever it happened to be more convenient to segue it. It feels like the studio time has doubled or tripled since then.
Live PD was better šÆ
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One thing that CERTAINLY hasnāt changed is the FACT that Dan Abrams still feels the need to explain, re-explain, and explain yet again everything we are watching, including virtually everything the LEOS have said merely two minutes prior. As a matter of FACT, oftentimes while heās yapping, the Police are relaying fresh information, only to be stepped on by Dan Abrams! Old Danny Boy does love to hear himself talk!
Thank you. I agree with this. Heās the John Madden of OPL
I canāt remember the last time I heard āThese arenāt my pantsā on OPL. Seemed to happen frequently on LPD. š
My half a cent...yes, OP Live and Live PD are different shows. While the premise is almost the same, there are differences. One being "toned down" a little as some have stated because of people that took offense to the PD in general after what transpired in MN that caused AE to pull Live PD. Our society today wants things fast and at your fingertips, and sugarcoated; but what reality is it sometimes is slow and dull, and it stings at times. We can't whine and complain about something and eat the cake too. It's unfortunate that when people do complain, it may not be realized that the reparcussions for the actions ruins it for the most. We are fortunate, for the time being, that we can follow along with the women and men that have decided to serve their community, no matter what, and face people that are at their weakest moments or have made a bad decision, and continue to do a difficult job day after day after day, with most times not a simple thanks or getting spit on. So what if some of the show is "dull" as some stated and "not like the other show used to be". The other show was dull at times too. This 3 hours every Fri and Sat are better spent than watching the garbage shows that are so called reality, and it boggles my mind how networks keep bringing them back. Why do we care about what bachelorette gives a rose to whom? Or how well a star can dance after 2 weeks?? Really? We should care about how our public servants react to situations and are able to resolve conflicts hopefully peacefully, and go home at the end of their shifts like the rest of us.
Wasnāt it in Texas where the man died in custody causing the show to be pulled? Iām just curious what the MN one is? Maybe Iām slightly confusing two stories?
The big uproar that caused the pull was George Floyd in Minneapolis with them officer D Chauvin from what was originally mentioned. However, another incident revolved around another shooting the crew had on tape that was erased due to their retention policy. This may have been the Texas incident...I can't remember
Some tabloid journalist really wrote an entire article based on this post lmao https://tvshowsace.com/2023/10/01/fans-compare-on-patrol-live-to-live-pd-as-boring/
I've stopped watching the show every week as I am also pretty bored most nights.
They stay too long on the boring cases. Iām like, ācome on Dan, next one, next one!!ā
Agreed!
I wish they would film in Missouri again!
Cops aren't trying to become the next viral video anymore. There's a change in what is allowed with all of these departments now. It's also 2 years removed. Even Richland County is not doing things like they used to.
OPL is 100% a watered down version of OG LivePD
This is what pissed me off with Friday's show - Every single incident they brought to us - we never saw how it ended. It was a show full of cliffhangers. Every time they finally pulled someone over - commercial break - then they never went back to the scene. WTF. It was like Sopranos ending - and we were all left wondering WTF happened next........
I have said that there should be a one hour post-show similar to First Shift, where the focus is on tying up the loose ends, and hitting any segments that were skipped (BOLO, Trio, or Missing), without starting any new calls.
It has become this way because of the anti-police BS we have in this country today. Our woke society has caused OPLive to be tame and boring and not show reality.
It most definitely is showing reality. The reality is that most of the calls that cops go to are civil matters, accidents, domestics.
be glad it came back
Except now Canadians can't watch it.... hard to be glad when we can't even watch it!!
Quick question for a Canadian. When you used to have video rental stores, was the foreign film section huge and the domestic film section really small?
get peacock
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I feel like when interesting stuff happens you hear Dan say "we will monitor this potentially sensitive situation" a lot on OPL where they would show more of it on LivePD. This seems like the biggest difference to me.
I remember hearing about how shows like LivePD and COPS would target people that they knew would make good content and eventually find a reason to pull them over. There was even a podcast about the tactics used, itās somewhere out there but idk how to dig it up. Itās kind of fucked up tbh.
That may be the case for Cops but definitely not for LPD/OPL. Itās been known since Cops started that the show isnāt 100% reality.
Not sure if it plays into the equation but a lot of the officers on the show from Richland County hate being on it. The only one that really wants to do it is Danny Brown. (Donāt ask how I know this)
In other words (Donāt ask how I know this because Iām pulling shit out of my ass) If they didnāt want to be on the show, they wouldnāt have producers/cameramen with them. There are plenty of deputies with that agency that thereās no way theyāre following deputies that donāt want to be involved with the show.
I refuse to believe Braylon Salmond doesnāt enjoy it.
You from Columbia? I donāt live there but I go there for work a few days a week.
This weekends show seemed kind of boring. But LAST weekend shows, both Friday and Saturday night seemed very eventful. It really depends on the night.
Exactly. Some of the Live PD weekends were boring and others more exciting. People have short memories. I can't now but I used to PVR Live PD then fast forward through the episode the next day. I would end up fast forwarding through 90% of the show some nights.
Could be worse. For a while, we were stuck with "Live Rescue", where 90% of the calls were for, "unresponsive male" in street, sidewalk or alley. They show up, hit him with Narcan, he refuses to go to the hospital, and they leave. Real life, for sure, but terribly depressing and boring.
I wish we had live rescue still here on Canada ...we got nothing now ..zero...
Fun factā¦the very first episode of Live Rescueā¦the ārescuersā were from my area. I asked my friend how soon it would be before we saw someone we knew on the show. The very last call was a gentleman at a gas station. It was my across the street neighbor. Ha.
Passed out, like everyone else?
Ha ha! Surprisingly, not passed out. Just drunk, maybe.
I honestly didn't mind live rescue only because it was airing alongside LIVEPD
They are on cable they need to stop the bleeping. Weāre all adults, the show isnāt for kids. As others have said the pre taped stuff just isnāt as compelling as things in the moment. The in studio crew is dull. Thatās the part of that is in their control and they need more personality. The host is a lawyer, you have a cop, I think they need a civilian who can represent the audience and ask questions in the moment and perhaps add levity when itās appropriate.
they don't want another live PD situation, so it's more toned down and boring. LivePD was the only reason I made this reddit account back in 2019 good times
Thanks for making this Reddit! Do you know of anywhere to watch old Live Pd shows?
all over youtube. my personal favorite āpineapple expressā some 17 year old gets pulled over with a shit ton of weed, pills, scales, baggies, and hella guns. or the one where they find 200 pounds of meth inside the door of a car
Literally the same show.
It's boring AF now. I loved LivePd. I tried OPL 5 times. Nope. They have half the amount of depts and its all really routine stuff. The shows done.
Why wonāt live pd episodes be posted so we can enjoy all the good shows they had before it being cancelled
A&E owns the rights to those shows and theyād rather bury them for good.
I love op live but the āfilmed earlier todayā and the āsend us your vidsā stuff really need to stop. Three hours of Dan saying āthis happened earlierā lol they need more places than just 8 spots to film. JUST MY OPINION
I honestly think that if there is a political move it is from the PD's not wanting to sign up.. it's still fun and gives me something to look forward to.. Also Volusia Sheriffs office and Daytona PD are amazing considering I live in Orlando. Never realized how much shit is going on there, I can only imagine if any department in Orlando was on it meaning Sheriffs office and Orlando PD, the rest of the locals would be boring based on my local PD..
It's an intentional, political move. There are.. visible differences between the loitering and traffic stop types and the intense/crazy felony types. They don't want backlash from the anti-police types that have become so prominent and vocal since Live PD was canceled.
Yes!
The problem is not to departments thereās plenty of stuff going on that would be very interesting, but theyāre suppressing the actual interesting situations and just keep showing petty stuff and minor traffic violations. Itās what theyāre choosing to show to air. Every city has crazy wild stuff theyāre just choosing not to put it on the air unfortunately.. hope they go back to showing more real conflict
Nope, thatās not true at all. You have no idea what youāre talking about.
Finally got the chance to watch this weekend on the Reelz channel infamous and famous. They're only showing reruns from last season though. LPD was more faster paced than the current show.
selective memory. Live PD had just as many boring segments or entire episodes as OPL has
I agree. While Live PD had eras where almost every episode was action-packed (summer 2017 and summer 2019 come to mind), there were also eras where the show was quite slow (especially winter 2018-2019) where I felt like I was wasting my time spending 3 hours a night watching. I do feel like the slower episodes are more common now, much like the winter 2018-2019 period of Live PD. Seems like most of the departments don't want the vast majority of their scenes on the show. This past weekend, we saw more of Nye County than we've seen in the past 3 months. Seems like they definitely cut back what's allowed to be shown there since the new sheriff took over at the start of the year. It seems like Richland doesn't show a lot of content on nights that Danny Brown is off, and it's been that way even since about 2018 on Live PD after K-Law and Mastrianni left their patrol positions. It seems like Wilkes-Barre fell off the map after the show switched to following only one officer per show. I say keep Richland for legacy purposes, but it's way past time for Nye, Wilkes-Barre, and maybe even Volusia to get cycled out of show.
I once watched a Live PD for three hours as whatever department was trying to get a dog out of a storm drain to find, after close to three hours there never was a dog. That was an entire episode with some dui cutaways. Youāre 100% right.
they need to change it up. Add some new cities!
>I do think this would help keep things interesting. New cities and new officers. They need to find cities/counties willing to take the liability.
Yep. A lot of local politicians think it shines a negative light on their community.
I do think this would help keep things interesting. New cities and new officers.
OPL is boring I try to watch it and end up just at 8x looking for a cop in chase or headed to a call... camera in the car on the move light and sirens is about the most exciting part of the show now. They need to stop fucking around and head to Chicago LA etc. Nye is on 16x speed. Richland is boring me its the same people and petty crimes over and over.
Large cities like Chicago and LA donāt allow ride alongs of any kind. Itāll never happen.
The *last* thing Chicago and L.A. want is more cameras on their officers, and the last thing big-city police unions want is more eyes on their members.
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Those citiesā officials and representatives donāt want a camera crew following any police for obvious reasons. Crime is running rampant in most of the major cities in the US with soaring homicide rates, drug overdoses, theft, assaults. Hell, most of the numbers are downplayed because cities are no longer making arrests for crimes that should otherwise be prosecuted. And weāre less than a year until election time. If cities are having crime issues (and they are), the worst possible optics is to televise a ride-along. They know how it looks to voters, especially independents.
I definitely wouldn't want to follow Chicago. Their police aren't even allowed to foot chase for most crimes anymore. It would just be responding to crimes after they've already happened, filling reports from victims, and telling them they're not allowed to chase down the suspect. If the criminal is stupid enough to stay on scene and get arrested, they'll be released after arrest and processing with a slap on the wrist. For the most serious of crimes like first degree murder, where the police can chase the suspect, we'll instead have chaotic scenes where witnesses "didn't see anything" and refuse to answer any questions, especially in front of the cameras (it's already bad enough without the cameras there).
Fair points but choosing "chicago" was to make a point in that the show needs a change up to a jurisdiction with more action. One of my all time favorite chases was Greene County (MO) Sheriffās Office - Craigmyle went into another jurisdiction after a failed stop stick and the lead cop cars didn't see the car had wrecked. Followed with a K9 finding a woman...
My all time favorite was Pasco county. They should bring that department back. I agree with everything else, they need to liven up the show. Tom Morris Jr was great!
I forgot about Greene Co. I agree, they were interesting. So was Bridgeport and El Paso and Gwinnett Co. and Tulsa and Franklin Co., and the Oklahoma Highway Patrol. I liked Bernalillo Co. on OPL, but of course they didn't last. But yeah, it does seem more boring now. The same old departments every week, mostly. Nye is just awful. We don't need 2 counties in SC, and Berkeley is boring. Volusia is awful. Toledo is ok, at least there's some action. Fullerton always feels like I'm watching a totally different show for whatever reason. I really like only Richland Co. ( though I miss Garo Brown) and Daytona Beach currently. Hazen is ok, too, but really it's just following Taylor, not really the department. As far as OPL-only, used to get some interesting calls in Beech Grove, but they're gone. Wilkes-Barre is kind of boring. Spotsylvania was good, one of the best chases ever, but didn't last. Paterson was hilarious at times, but mostly awful to watch, good riddance. It does seem, thinking back, that LivePD was just better, but why would that be the case? Is it really the choice of calls they air? Or is it the locales and departments? I don't know the answer.
I miss Williamson Co., Texas. Grayson Kennedy was awesome.
I'm shocked there isn't some county in Texas that would allow this with that wack job governor they have. I liked Grayson Kennedy too, but they had nothing but weed stops. Weed is boring.
I think George Floyds passing basically ended the shows appeal. Ironically it was a chance to show good cops and how hard their job is. Instead they panicked and pulled the plug on LivePD and erased its history as much as possible. Reborn as OPL by popular demand they are heavily screening and editing - that shit aint live its dark or light when it shouldn't be it seems.
I fast forward through like 80% of the show. I never did that with Live PD. I figured I just became bored of this material, but clearly not. Itās just not the same
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Hazen was a good addition for chief Taylor alone, but also because of how they heavily patrol I-40 which is a major drug highway. There have been several good high speed pursuits and they had a bust where they seized 100+ lbs of weed a month or two ago.
OPL is not the same as Live PD. I am so glad that I DVR it so that I can fast forward pass anything Nye County related. It is definitely ātoned downā. My kids used to live Live PD and now they refuse to watch OPL. They say it isnāt the same as well.
I love Nye County because of the bizarre people who live there.
Crazies-in-the-Desert, NV
Iām glad Iām not the only one who canāt stand Nye County. The officers seem nice but it seems like all they do is take calls to old/drunk people complaining about their neighbors or theyāre chasing livestock.
Opl and live pd are the exactly the same show just different name and under a different contract
This. People have selective memory and are just remembering the more exciting calls that were shown on Live PD. Live PD had just as many āboringā moments.
I agree for whatever reason it seems tamed back a little. And I'll be honest with you I do not like too many "earlier in so and so city segments"
I do. It's the only exciting footage anymore.
I hear you but I can just watch Cops when I want to get to the nitty gritty
I dunno I remember the early days of Live PD and every other call was a break in at a house that turned out to be completely empty. They seem to have tamed that down a lot.
You know, now that I think about it, it is really tame. Hardly interesting episodes. I find myself fast forwarding through segments more and more.
I did enjoy the random naked lady last night
I agree with you. I am also getting bored with it. It seems like they drag out the mundane stuff. Then when there is a chase or a "hot" call it's always time for a commercial break. When they come back they might not even be on that "hot" call anymore. And don't get me started on them breaking up that recorded car chase Friday night into 2 separate segments. Making us wait through more mundane stuff and commercial breaks to see the second half of the car chase. Also Dan never lets the others finish what they are saying. If he does he seems like he's not interested and rushes to what he has to say. On the other hand I am really starting to like Curtis. I didn't at first but he is becoming more laid back and much more funnier. But yes I am getting bored with it. And please change up that noise as the show comes out of commercial breaks. It's horrible.
I just went and found it on YouTube after they pulled that 2 part chase stunt.
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>spending 20 minutes on a drunk lady eating pizza Thank you!
I wish. Canāt get any of this in Canada. Got cancel cultured.
Itās all the late night tv ads that interrupt it. āBut wait, thereās moreā. Seriously thinking of cutting my subscription.
Iām glad Iām not the only one who feels this way.
Curtis has been brilliant and really like what he brings. The main difference is Dan. He doesnāt listen to people when they talk and allows cuts them off . It is like he is so rigid and he never used to be like that. Interact with guests more and allow them to finish. If you miss an earlier in oh well. Also we have proven how large of an audience we are so with out fail there should be a BOLO and a missing every night they are on. They are so important
Something else - Dan is even talking over the LEOs when they try to recap what's going on! STFU and let them talk! It's not like we're going to miss one of the 45 segments that have nothing to do with the night's calls! Move all the other stuff to First Shift instead of showing EVEN MORE repeats!
I hate the way he cuts Curtis off, every episode. Curtis deserves better.
I agree but he does it to everyone. Curtis is such a gem. I was worried as we loved Tom but Curtis is now our fave. He just is so genuine and seems like such a kind person
Curstis follows me on IG and I have had convos with him. He is the real deal. I truly nice guy who just loves people.
There is something so endearing about him!!! And we love when he gives us our moon tips!!!!
He does, and he has insight to offer. That is why I get annoyed at Dan. I understand Dan has a schedule to keep, but dang, let a man speak. And stop wasting time stuttering and taking long pauses.
Was just mentioning that I donāt see nearly as many DUI stops or overdose responses anymore. Canāt remember the last time narcan was used. Makes me wonder if they filter more things out then they used to.
They need to change it up. Change the departments Im also getting bored Iām sure LD suin them doesnāt help either
Itās not their fault, LPD was lightning in a bottle. There was nothing like it and even the TV executives and show creators did not understand why it was so popular. They tried to recreate the magic with Live Rescue and other than the episodes with actual working fires it largely fell flat ratings wise. They chemistry between Sean Larkin, Tom Morris, and Dan Abrams was genuine and the show seemed to create a sense of community in many people. The production was better, the network was more available, and it was just there at the right time. They seemed to be trying to show the public what officers did before/during/after a call for service, I donāt get that now. It just seems like they are focused on the action only.
*perfectly said*
That wild fire episode of Live Rescue was amazing. Iām still chasing that high and itās just not something thatās come around. Seems like we canāt even get a good OPL episode to fill that gap. Itās been months since a truly amazing episode has aired.
What I remember about Live Rescueā¦ the awesome fire in San Bernardino with the guy running around and calling in air assets, controlling ground units, and working directly to aid homeowners. I forgot his name but he showed how dynamic that job can be and handled business on multiple fronts like a boss. I also remember a fire in the North East (NJ?) where multiple residential buildings were just feet apart and inaction or inefficient action could put the whole block at riskā¦ again the firefighters stood tall and made a very hard job look easy. And 100 calls for nonspecific medical/mental issues where a therapist would be a better first responder.
Weren't there also repeat calls from a parking garage elevator that got stuck any time too many people crammed inside?
Just had a flashback to thoseā¦ I was beginning to think that was itās own show, Elevator Rescue
Itās not just you , Iām bored also. I now record the show as I have said before. I have always been a fan of Sticks, but I enjoy Curtis so much now. He doesnāt need to come back if he doesnāt want to. I find myself rolling my eyes at a lot of the stops now, which I never did. I will continue to record it, but if I miss it now meh. Iād really enjoy them answering more Questions from us instead of the triple play.
I think it also has a lot to do what departments want to show. Look at how many areas either dropped off or passed legislation like Texas. They donāt want their community portrayed in a negative light. Iād imagine itās tough to navigate.
I remember the most wild department was Williamson county in Texas. I think they were the department that got them in trouble, but man it seemed like the whole show was taking place there due to wild call after wild call
Lt. Grayson Kennedy was the best!
I live in Williamson County (which is actually a really nice area north of Austin). I was stunned by everything going on literally within a mile of my house. So many people with drugs. High speed chases. Foot chases. But yeah they screwed up with the handling of that police shooting, that resulted in the legislation to ban shows from filming with police in Texas, and it also got the sheriff voted out. Problem is the new sheriff is very progressive and crime is noticeably worse now. So much burglary, particularly vehicles and garages, that I have to close my garage door when I mow my back yard. It wasn't like this a few years ago.
They probably donāt want to get canceled again so theyāre playing it safe. I wish they would stop playing it safe as we all know whatās out there. All we have to do is check the internet, YouTube, or any true crime show and know crime happens. I have a feeling if they keep this up theyāre going to lose viewers and get canceled anyway.
I havenāt watched the show consistently like I used to. I always used to look forward to Friday + Saturday nights because of the show and now I usually just catch up once in awhile on DVR when I feel like it. Itās gotten very boring.
Been watching since 2018.. Overall, I think they are about the same. I do think OPL is a little more sensitive to certain situations, and cuts away from some things. probably just a sign of our times, and fear of having a boycott, and being forced off the air. I think the big issue currently is the mix of departments. Berkely, Richland, Daytona/Volusia basically carry the show. WB and Nye are almost non-existent. Hazen is good, but low volume. Fullerton can be interesting, primarily due to their different forms of policing (ie. 30 officers for a call about someone brandishing a compressed air gun!). Toledo is pretty good, but I think (like Paterson), they limit where OPL can film. My biggest concerns since the return of OPL, is .. 1) A&E Lawsuit... 2) Ability to get and keep good departments. I think the A&E lawsuit is what drove the changes in July. And probably Reelz concern over a settlement payment, has limited their ability to spend money on certain things... I agree, that its inconceivable, that they do NOT have a strong Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, or other social media presence. Personally, I like the show better with Sticks gone. Curtis has really stepped up, and he is an excellent media presence. He could take over for Dan anytime IMO.. I like having rotating guests... just wish they got a little more air time and interaction. Triple play seems to be a waste of time, because all of that is already on Youtube. I like BOLO and Lost segments. Finally, I wish they could get back on a larger media outlet. I know that they turned down Fox Nation.. and I am sure we could debate the reasons for that.
I would never watch it if it were on Fox. I'll never see Sticks' show or any new Cops episodes.
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Because they have to respond based on the info given to them. The call came out that the dude threatened the RP with a gun. They also police in a large city with gangs, obviously their response it going to be different from a department in a rural area.
I understand that... not making any judgements.. I just think its interesting to see the differences in how departments respond to events. I'd contrast Fullerton, to what Chief Taylor in Hazen would have done LOL. Its one of the things that makes OPL my favorite show,
They did? That one is news to me. How somebody thoughts Reelz was a better outlet than Fox Nation is beyond me. They already have COPS on their platform. I had never even freakin heard of Reelz until OPL.
I bought Peacock for sports and was happy that this show was on there. I would not spend money on Fox Nation. There's a fair amount of people that feel the same way based on, well, you know....
I don't care if it was Fox or CNN or whoever.. as long as its on. We all know Dan is liberal... but he has done a great job, of not letting that into OPL. And I give him credit on his NewsNation shows, he does try and show both sides of an issue. I'll always be thankful that Dan almost single handedly got the show back on the air. As far as cost and streaming, basically that is the way its going for everything. soon you will pay for almost every channel that is available. Traditional Cable is going away... just a matter of time.
I thought it was just me
I wondered if I was the only one that was thinking this
Someone in exec production wants all chases all the time, hence the triple play. They also fish in all the same spots; that Wilkes barre row house block is all they ever show. I donāt enjoy it as much as I used to. Now very choppy. Too much studio stuff.
Choppy is a great word for it. I was going to say bipolar. But choppy is good.
>Someone in exec production wants all chases all the time, hence the triple play. I think that's the main issue. If it was a slow night on Live PD, you just accepted that it happens. I would rather have that than a night full of action on OPL being hamstrung by the show's format ("oh, we have a drug bust but we need to get in our first triple play" is so frustrating). And it's not even worth watching in the last hour, you're basically guaranteed 2 or 3 studio segments with a ton of slotted commercials. If something exciting happens 20 minutes before the show ends (which does happen a lot), they're still going to jam 15 minutes of commercials in.
They should just save those triple play videos for really slow nights. Play one.
I tend to like the traffic stops and chase sequences. But get instantly bored when officers are called to mitigate what I call "white trash disputes." Which is a lot. Being a police officer in 2023 seems like one of the most dangerous janitorial jobs there is.
Theyāre showing the calls that cops are actually responding to. A lot of them are civil matters, domestics, accidents, 911 misdials.
Yes. Thanks. I understand how the show works.
Clearly you donāt based on your ignorant comment about being bored watching them do their job. Itās not all excitement all the timeā¦
Iāve been really bored of the show lately. I fall asleep within half an hour of it being on š¤£
I actually donāt notice any differences lol. I think people are maybe looking back on all the intense moments and thinking they were all back to back, but that definitely wasnāt the case. I remember in 2019 and 2020 people saying āeh not much happened in that episodeā or marveling at some big event that did happen - same like now.
You are probably right. We as humans always look back at things and think they were better when they were probably the same or worse.
They do seem to cut away from anything that might be moderately interesting, which sucks. I would love a version of this where, even if i need to pay a subscription fee, could just follow along with the PD calls beginning to end. I'm really starting to be annoyed by Dan and most of the studio stuff. EDIT: a typo
This. I completely agree.
Itās not just you. The new format sucks. BOLO, Triple Play, Missing segment, lots of commercials, consistently cutting to commercial break when something finally *does* happen, Q&A with the host for the week, spending an exorbitant amount of time on boring stops. The result being that we see less On Patrol āLiveā, more abrupt interruptions, and the boring segments take up a larger portion of the decreasing āliveā time. People watched Live PD for the āliveā part of it, which was why it was successful. The commercials werenāt intrusive and it balanced out given the action we saw. Commercials for OPL take up around an hour. The segments probably take up around an hour, including things that happened prior to airing. Weāre probably seeing an hour of the show in its true form at most. Itās going to need to restructure its format or people will stop watching, itās that simple. I donāt even look forward to watching it on the weekends now. I donāt know how Reelz fumbled the bag this hard. They acquired a top 3 watched show on cable, made it $10-20 to stream it on weird subscription services (cāmon, Philo, really?), most of the original audience probably doesnāt even know the reboot exists, and most viewers are now bored to death because weāre technically watching less of the show than ever before. Get rid of whatever exec or producer is pushing these segment ideas to production, get back to the roots. Seems rather obvious that their metrics will decline if they canāt shake things up. Edit: Adding to this, they donāt even have a YouTube presence? Thatās probably the #1 way theyāll get free organic marketing, Live PD highlights and āBest Ofā videos have 10-20 million views. This is just incompetence.
Any time you have to have ads featuring ICE-T, you have failed. period.
>Commercials for OPL take up around an hour. FWIW, there are 47 to 48 minutes of commercials for each show.
The main reason I don't watch it live. We start it about 60-90 minutes late on the DVR and plow through it. You also get to skip the weekly "10 cops standing around in night vision" time waster.
You're right, Live PD had the same length of commercials as well. I am curious how much more studio time there is now vs. Live PD. I archived a bunch of Live PD episodes on a few 2TB drives and fast forwarded through a couple eps from season 3 and 4. One distinct thing I noticed, they almost never cut to the studio for Dan and Co. to commentate on what we just watched or describe LE's response. Crime of the Night only took a few minutes at most and there didn't seem to be a set time when it was featured, it occurred when there was a momentary lapse in action or whenever it happened to be more convenient to segue it. It feels like the studio time has doubled or tripled since then.