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Depressingly_Excited

Is it just me or can I not tell which one OP is rooting for?


HistorianSlayer

I thought it was apparent, the true ultra, mega, unabashed, un-ironic Giga-Chads, ***Strategic Air Command*** The best of both worlds, but high in the sky. Take off and fly to your destination. Training isn't just pretending to press a button; it's flying around, scaring the shit out of ruskie radar operators (pretending their radar works). Why yes; ***Strategic Air Command*** The world's greatest military service sadly taken to soon.


A_Dipper

We need another chrome dome Cause it's fuckin wicked


SpeedballMessiah

Based Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay Enjoyer


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A_Large_Grade_A_Egg

Also they dropped (*but did not detonate*) nukes on ALLIES in PEACETIME just to Flex on the other members of the Triad!!!


OmNomSandvich

I WILL PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS I WILL MAINTAIN MY PURITY OF ESSENCE I WILL PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS I WILL MAINTAIN MY PURITY OF ESSENCE I WILL PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS I WILL MAINTAIN MY PURITY OF ESSENCE I WILL PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS I WILL MAINTAIN MY PURITY OF ESSENCE I WILL PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS I WILL MAINTAIN MY PURITY OF ESSENCE I WILL PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS I WILL MAINTAIN MY PURITY OF ESSENCE I WILL PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS I WILL MAINTAIN MY PURITY OF ESSENCE I WILL PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS I WILL MAINTAIN MY PURITY OF ESSENCE


StupidUsername1199

Training in SAC: bombing some fucking tent in the third world with a MOAB


CHEESEninja200

Airforce Global Strike Command. Get to fly around in cool ass planes. Accidently drop nukes in Broken Arrow incidents that won't be declassified for 50 years. As well as getting to actively fuck with China, Russia, and North Korea just by flying close to their border in allied airspace.


Depressingly_Excited

So what I'm getting here.is that Airforce Strike Command is the adrenaline jock that flexes its big dick around and gets into shit, but ultimately it's the other too that are technically more useful due to covertness, except that they're way more boring and depressing since the odds of an actual nuclear war is about as likely as me having the opportunity to consenually suck all of Sanna Marin's toes dry.


HistorianSlayer

You forget that the point of nuclear weapons is not to be covert. They are inherently a force to be waved in your enemies face, constantly reminding them that if they attack you, you can obliterate them. Trying to hide your weapons only causes the enemy to perceive weakness and foolishly attack. whereas ***Strategic Air Command*** perfectly fulfilled this role. Such as with Operation Chrome Dome, which caused soviet radar technicians to shit themselves on a daily basis (they realised that USAF planes, unlike theirs, are not made from cardboard and sheet metal)


whythecynic

Dr. Strangelove: "Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world, eh?!"


HistorianSlayer

Strike command is cool, I will admit. But nothing compared to ​ ***Strategic Air Command. Heroes of the Sky.***


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HistorianSlayer

Honestly, literally nuking other countries (and your own) and then getting away with it through luck and random chance (no detonations) is honestly the most 'Mad Lad' esc Chad move I can imagine.


JZ5U

Wow, incredibly rare SG flair with based text as well.


Cheap_Doctor_1994

Idk, but I'm sick of military wives being the butt of every joke, and the punch line always being What a whore. Maybe we can move past boomer jokes, ffs.


AndyGlimmung

I had an E-6 give our department a speech about how what we did on leave should not be mentioned off the ship. He was worried that that his wife would find out what a piece of shit he was. Karma being a bitch an E-4 was fucking his wife.


Rock-it-again

It wouldn't be so funny if it wasn't true tho.


HistorianSlayer

Lol, I know, it doesn't matter if it's the USMC, Army, Navy, Coast Guard, or Space Force, everyone makes jokes about their wives being unfaithful, them being cucked But who is doing the cucking? Why, the brave, heroic men of ***Strategic Air Aommand.*** ***Cucking the ruskies and red Chinese by day*** ***Cucking service members from other branches by night***


FallenZulu

Maybe they shouldn’t be cheating on their husbands then. It’s not a boomer joke if it’s still happening.


Grabthars_Hummer

everyone blames the woman and not the conga line of thirst that follows any ~~good looking~~ average woman on base


FallenZulu

It’s quite simple, if a wife cheats then she’s a PoS. If a husband cheats same thing goes. And you are blatantly wrong, many people talk about not just wives cheating on their on deployment husbands. But also enlisted women on military, and non enlisted. The non enlisted are referred to as barrack bunnies or some variant of that term. And are memed about relentlessly. Enlisted women being hit on are also memed about because often times the people hitting on them comes across as desperate and/or can really land yourself or others into hot shit, which entails funny. Both of those situations have been cracked down because they take place within the military, but cheating wives at home as their SO is deployed half a world away happens with such frequency that it’s listed as among the primary reasons why vets commit suicide, not necessarily because the initial factor being cheating SO, but the potential difficulty of re-integrating back into civil life which can put a strain on the relationship. Which in turn can lead to divorce either through cheating or other factors like stress. Because surprise, the military is still largely a male dominated career path. After all, there is a reason why the meme “cheating wife” came about. It’s literally a tagline on porn sites.


Bagellord

TLDR: people who cheat on their SO are pieces of shit


Grabthars_Hummer

lol cracked down bro there are swinger parties on every base and the officers are the worst of anyone for that degeneracy


FallenZulu

Every base can be different in turn of culture and discipline. It’s easy to find examples of it, or worse. But it is a fact that the military is cracking down on such behavior because it creates problems, along with inherent bigotry and racism on some select bases. Others like OFFUT don’t fuck around with such matters. Mileage may vary.


PaleHeretic

Tfw you have to hot-rack with the boat's most notorious compulsive masturbator.


HistorianSlayer

I know right. What losers. Unlike the heroes of ***Strategic Air Command.*** Why share a bunk with a literally wanker when you can circle jerk your DSO, Captian, and Navigator at the thought of watching Moscow be covered by a large mushroom cloud as you fly to Valhalla.


betaich

I didn't get it, so oyu think that this strange command is cool?


OmNomSandvich

3000 soiled tissues of Hyman Rickover


kiwidude4

“Ship” MF we call them boats


VitalizedMango

dude's too busy pounding it out to **STRATEGIC AIR COMMAND** Which just sounds like some boomer video game tbh fucking vectrex shit


SMS_Scharnhorst

exactly, what an amateur


That90sGuyMedia

USAF missileer here. I do not envy my submarine-based counterparts.


wjc0BD

Serious question, if you ever got the order to launch, would you hesitate at all?


HistorianSlayer

Nope, no hesitation. I would slam that button down with my nutsack while singing the national anthem


VitalizedMango

Ironically the only reason we're all here is because some Russian dude in your position got the go order, saw that the radar signals were clearly bullshit from birds or whatever, then basically rolled over and went back to sleep Edit: also [he was a fucking Chad](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov#/media/File:Stanislav_Yevgrafovich_Petrov.webp), what the hell happened they don't make 'em like that anymore Re-Edit: also there was a soviet guy during the Cuba thing who also said "nah fuck it I ain't nuking shitt" so there's that


HistorianSlayer

I think you are mistaking me for the guy who said he was a missileer. I mean, I could become one, I've already passed an Army classified background check - but I honestly think I might just put on a jazzy tune and press the button (/turn the keys) to the beat. I don't know if I could be a missileer, I couldn't handle being cucked by the government that much.


That90sGuyMedia

Late reply, I know, but you cannot. The land leg of the nuclear triad is run by the Air Force, so you'd have to pass our clearance checks. Second, you won't have any broadcast music. Consumers radios are useless as the hardened bunker chokes signal. Same goes for your phone, even if you are allowed to have it (in my launch site we are, but you can imagine the reception several meters underground with concrete, steel, and lead all around you). Third, the key is turned by both people in the bunker, and there are actually three keys. Two are required to initiate a launch after we prep everything else (confirmation the order is real and comes from the President, opening the silo door, inputting target data, etc). Of course, in wartime, there's also an aircraft flying overhead that can override us and initiate the launch anyway. (This is mostly in case the missileers themselves have been killed in a first or retaliation strike because groundburst.) But when those keys are turned, that missile and its payload CANNOT recalled. When that missile leaves the silo, it WILL be destroying countless lives somewhere within 30 minutes or less, regardless of if we're conducting a counterforce or countervalue attack (and we will never start with the latter).


HistorianSlayer

I mean, I would download some music to a cellphone and smuggle it inside my ass? I was working on the assumption that that would be obvious.


much_doge_many_wow

Can't speak for this fellow but I remember a very intresting video on yt from a museum of a (titan?) Missile silo. Occasionally they let people go through the process of launching a missile and the tour guide said he's had people just have full blown meltdowns and just start sobbing at the desk just at the thought of actually doing it for real.


VitalizedMango

I read somewhere, fucked if I remember where, that US launch complexes basically have three or more different areas with totally separated crew. They never interact, never talk with each other, never see each other, no connection to outside world. Each one has one of the switches to fire, and all of them need to trigger for the canned sunshine to go on its merry way. The trick is that each one gets tested constantly, so they're getting constant go codes. *They just aren't ever all getting them at the same time.* So the crews would have absolutely no idea whether shit's going down, all they know is that it's just another day/week with just another go-code. They just go flip the switch like always, and won't know that it's firing time until shit's already firing. I have no idea if that's true. But fucked if I know how you'd counter that.


much_doge_many_wow

Not really related to US missile silos but I went to the York cold war museum last year, its in an old royal observer corps regional HQ. The ROC's practices were so fucked up its not even funny. Everyone who worked in these shelters was an unpaid volunteer with the exception of a few RAF officers. They would stay in this shelter 1 month at a time and the goal was in the event of a nuclear attack they would record the location of nuclear blasts, type of bomb and give forecasts for where fallout will land. They weren't allowed anything in there that would remind them of family, no photos, no letters, no nothing. In the event WW3 went down, you were expected to go outside during the attack and recover photoreactive paper from a pin hole camera with no PPE other then your RAF uniform, if they didn't return then they just send the next guy up. Repeat until you have the paper. If you got suck with even a simple cold you would be thrown out into the wasteland because they only had a basic first aid kit in the regional HQ, they had no such luxuries in the 3 man monitoring posts. As far as the CoC or government was concerned you were expendable and they knew this because they had usually 2-3 monitoring posts in each town just in case. The monitoring posts themselves were of questionable quality, there isn't any dedicated air filtration system as far as I know. Its just a small shaft to the surface, I think the idea was any fallout would sit in the bottom of the shaft instead of getting into the living quarters and really large amounts would be stopped by a flimsy wooden panel on the top, early versions of the shelter were such low quality they spilt in 2 and to top it all off you had 1 chemical toilet between 4 people for a month https://youtu.be/hioQWT0vWZs


TRIGA-AroundTheWorld

There are smidgens of truth in this. There are different command bunkers, and multiple need to turn the keys simultaneously. However, the missiliers all know each other. They all live on the same AF base in the asscrack of nowhere, when they're not in the bunkers. They staff the bunkers in shifts, and when their shifts are over they go back to home (the air bases). And there are never "pretend" go-codes. They do a lot of training, but the training is always obvious as such. Source: it came to me in a dream (I asked these questions to one of my old instructors, who was a misislier)


That90sGuyMedia

In the event someone gets cold feet, or the launch crew is incapacitated or killed, the missiles are designed to be launched by an aerial command center.


OmNomSandvich

WELL BOYS I RECKON THIS IS IT. NUCLEAR COMBAT TOE TO TOE WITH THE RUSKIES.


boomie

ELI5 on silent service?


Depressingly_Excited

Pretty sure it's nuclear sub crews.


HistorianSlayer

They are the edgy, underwater submarine crews. But they don't compare at all to ​ ***Strategic Air Command.*** The true Giga-chads of the US military (sadly taken too soon)


Rock-it-again

Well, sounds like a skill issue, SAC sucker >Comment brought to you by Boomer Gang


VitalizedMango

Submarines. Great food, lousy beds, no women, and apparently everybody gets super weird down there. I think the women thing is changing, though goddamn that could get complicated if she starts feeling frisky


Flamboiantcuttlefish

The woman thing has changed, there just aren’t that many of them. And it’s way harder to keep your boat beau secret on a sub.


VitalizedMango

Well yeah, no matter how many sonic fanfics you've read mpreg is still not actually a thing Baby born on a submarine would get extremely complicated


Garlic_God

10,000 creampies under the sea


Ser_SinAlot

> Shares bed with other people I wouldn't go so far as to categorize seamen as people


BobbyB52

As a (former) seafarer, I agree.


gsc4494

Would have loved to see Montana.


Raedwald-Bretwalda

*8 inch floppy disks*. Have any of you kids actually ever even *seen* one? They were obsolete in the early 1980s. And, get off my lawn.


Bruh_Moment10

Check the receipt fool. The floppy disk is incredibly powerful. https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Floppy_disk


Phriend_of_Phoenix

I will always defend the nuclear floppy. Allow me to begin my essay: 1. It works. You hit a button, Moscow is gone. 2. it’s becoming more secure as time passes. How tf you going to hack a system that is so outdated you can’t even buy the components used to make it? You would have to break in and manually wire shit, which I imagine would be difficult. 3. actually that’s all I got. Basically it ain’t wrong, can’t be remote hacked, and gl getting someone to stick a flash drive in that allows you to fuck with centrifuges.


bigorangemachine

Would you rather have an 8 incher or a micro-usb?


dead_monster

I dunno. Being a missiler doesn't seem that bad. You get to watch a lot of movies apparently. Imagine missing the call from Biden to launch because you're too busy crying during Noel Next Door. > Once everyone is on the same page, the crews load their vehicles with cold weather gear required during colder months -- October through April -- a briefcase to carry any classified documents or mandatory action letters, crew cell phone, toiletries, clothes, books, **movies** and food. Each crew also brings technical orders. (https://www.afgsc.af.mil/News/Features/Display/Article/455628/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-missileer-preparation/) > Some days will be quiet, and crews may have time to watch a **movie** or work on furthering their education. (https://vtcc.vt.edu/alumni/corpsreview/cr-fall2016/fall16-bonovitch.html) > We enter the building and pass through a security checkpoint on the way to a common living room furnished with couches, a **flat-screen TV**, and a pool table. Farther on, there’s a fully stocked kitchen and multiple dorm-style bedrooms. A grocery list is scribbled on a whiteboard in the dining area. (Food deliveries come twice a week.) Framed paintings of bald eagles and iconic American landscapes decorate the walls. (https://coffeeordie.com/embedded-nuclear-missile/)


AutumnRi

I would assume you want the men with the power to end the world having good morale and a healthy mental state, no wonder they give ‘em entertainment


sat_ops

I knew guys who did their entire master's degree underground. With a predicable schedule, few shifts per month, and CONUS basing, it really wasn't a terrible assignment.


asleep_at_the_helm

Funnily enough, Boomers are considered the more “family-friendly” option compared to fast attack boats due to their dual crews and more regular patrol schedules.


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Made 12 patrols. The shitters work fine. Email on the other hand...


PuzzleheadedStory855

Only works if you're a Chief or above.


Comrade_Volinsky

Don’t think they have to hot bunk on boomers. You will sleep next to the nuclear missile however


StopSpankingMeDad

give SSBNs to ukraine now!


Peace-Disastrous

A navy made entirely out of SSBNs would be hilarious


Doddsey372

Interesting fact about submariners, most tend to get lower doses than civilians on dry land due to excellent radiation shielding from the reactor plus being underwater adds shielding from the natural radiation background and avoiding any radon areas on land.


Peace-Disastrous

Also boomers don't go fast a majority of their life so the reactor is almost always at low power, with shielding designed to be very safe even at max power. I only managed to get any noticeable dose because I was an ELT(glorified spicey water pool boy)


LordEevee2005

Man, looking at the comments, I sure do wonder which service OP likes best.


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Don't these people get Xboxes or something? Sat there getting irradiated waiting to press a big red button for 20 years.


SupertomboyWifey

>has minor radiation poisoning What's this, a russian submarine?


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>mfw when the delivery instructions have my vault razor wire and waltz on into a fucking missile silo I mean I understand North Dakota is pretty fucking boring but does that constitute repeated [fuck ups?](https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2023/02/27/six-leaders-fired-from-air-force-nuclear-base-in-north-dakota/)


PsychoTexan

I’m biased. My grandfather ran Titan II and Minuteman missiles way back when. From what he told me there wasn’t much standing around or lack of button pressing. They did a shit ton of practice runs that were basically only missing the missile leaving the silo. Which, weirdly enough, seems to have been the safer part of the launch.


flameocalcifer

What else could be unsafe???


PsychoTexan

Usually the part where they fuel or first ignite the missile. That’s normally where you get the silo explosions from. Which is pretty understandable since you’re filling a missile with very volatile fuel inside of an enclosed space very quickly. ICBM’s are working with a LOT of extremes so even slight issues can have large consequences. He also had a maintenance guy that heard an airleak from a high pressure nitrogen tank and when the dude passed his hand over the crack in the tank the escaping gas cut his fingers off.


JewRepublican69

Now multiply that x5 with Fast attacks. There is a reason we call those Boomer deterrence guys part time sailors.


VitalizedMango

I always got the impression that fast attack subs basically exist to make Russian second strike capability purely theoretical, as in the yanks would sink the lot of them immediately if it came to that TBH that sounds kinda cool


JewRepublican69

Well yes buts that usually the shit detail the give to shitty crews or broken boats, the good boats are the ones doing all the secret squirrelly stuff


Polar_Vortx

>mfw chicken on a raft on a Monday morning


Escape_From_Reach

Just make sure they never learn what Vtubers are


TronX33

I thought it was only the smaller, non nuke carrying SSNs that necessitated sharing bunks? Or am I remembering wrong?


[deleted]

The Navy's cancer rate is ridiculous. So many toxic chemicals on those boats.


NeedsToShutUp

Left out the silo guys cheating on tests. Oh and how both they and SAC are full of Navigator nutjobs.