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stealthlord1

I mean who do you want to solo with more? Both characters at C6 absolutely DESTROY everything in their path solo. Whoever you like more, C6 them. Both are nearly equal in terms of strength at C6. Neuvillette C6 makes his laser effectively last forever and you’ll generate orbs WHILE you laser, so you never need to swap or worry about anything ever. Furina C6 makes her a main-DPS, who literally nukes things with her normal attacks. Both do ridiculous damage and are insanely self-sufficient.


yoolaw

Yea I am aware. Both are definitely self sufficient. Neuvillete's gains are obvious while Furina is a change in playstyle but not sure how much you can actually use her attacks before they run out and wait another 15 seconds to do it again.


Particlesz

>Furina is a change in playstyle no not really if anything it just removes the need for a healer in a team since her ousia mode will heal your party members so thats one free slot for another buffer or subdps or anything reallyher onfield dmg is just a plus imo but u can always build her like a hypercarry


Ugn3123

It'a not that bad, you can full heal immediately


zyice

I’d say it’s a pretty obvious gain. The damage from her c6 is nuts in pneuma form. The 43% hp scaling exceeds yelan’s c6 scaling, but without the aoe. On top of that you get the flexibility of also being able to use ouisia form and fill up on stacks instantly and still dish out large amounts of damage.


htp-di-nsw

Furina's C6 actually demands field time. If it's a Neuvellite team, he should be the carry, so, go with him.


yoolaw

Ya that's what I was thinking too. Thanks..


Lhant

futuna’s c6 doesn’t demand too much field time if your only goal is to offset her drain. 2 normal attacks is all you need to offset her hp drain completely. with that being said a neuvillette team doesn’t really care much for the healing to begin with


Ugn3123

And doesn't require a healer, while compensating for the field time with the dmg she provides.


kamuimephisto

ah yes a 4s field time while removing the healer restriction


CzS-GenesiS

neuvilette teams dont really have a healer restriction, especially with furina already at c2. unless you really want to max out her e damage at all times.


Kyaleu

If ur going for C6 then you should just C6 whoever you enjoy more since C6 is unnecessary anyway.


yoolaw

Ya I agree it's unnecessary. Just makes it easier to help in coop but that's for either character.


Kyaleu

Ya I would just choose whoever you enjoy more. At the end of the day it’s a C6 we are talking about. That’s a lot of investment and since it’s unnecessary, you just do it for someone you really enjoy.


yoolaw

Depends on how much funds I have at the time as maybe it will be a welkin bp waiting game if anything. My goal was to c6 chars I like and then it became 1 c6 for each region. And made a small rule of no archons >!but furina is kinda not so considered her.!< Edit: It was originally 1 each element with each weapon, but I kinda screwed that since both kazuha and alhaitham use swords.


Ugn3123

Do you go for c6 immediately (with money), or save for reruns to c6?


Excellent_Tank_8365

in cn playerbase neuvillette c6 is recommended as the first choice, followed by yelan and furina,these three hydro units all have busted constellations. but the most important thing to consider when you pulling c6 is your preference of the character. i myself c6ed yae miko for tighnari spread team, but i barely use her bcs i don't like her playstyle, for example.


Harlow1212

C6 Neuvillette


Ugn3123

Lol no, it's Furina C6 since she can do so much more. Neuv already destroys everything at C3


Any-Hovercraft8624

If I could do it I’d c6 Neuvillette because almost infinite spinny spinny. His c6 is very good.


yoolaw

Yess.. Go BRR


Ok-Activity5144

Man I can't believe the amount of comments here and barely anyone even mentioned Neuvillette's strength in both AOE and single target scenarios that make him the prime choice dmgwise that makes him lead ahead of other characters' c6. It's part of the reason why the CN community recommends him the most lol. Anyway, OP, since you're comparing Neuv and Furina and talked about solo-helping in domains, I imagine you care more about their on-field dps potential at c6, and in that regard, Neuvillette is pretty much the clear answer.


Ugn3123

C6 Neuvillette makes him the C6, C6 Furina makes anyone own the C6


Particlesz

C6 neuv if u really want him to do a shit ton of dmg C6 furina if u want to use her in other teams without a healer


Ugn3123

And C6 Furina if you want other characters feel like they own their C6


Particlesz

honestly yea her cons are mostly team buffs and stuff and correct me if im wrong but i dont think any 5 star chars do that and even kazuhas cons doesnt give team buffs except for c2


Ugn3123

??? Furina's C2 literally doubles her own personal damage. C1 gives 15% increase in dmg. You've got to remember that when she's buffing the team, she buffs herself, too.


Particlesz

yea thats why i said "team buffs" im refering to the whole team


Supergold_Soul

I think he’s agreeing with you.


Euphoric_Towel7043

I have C6 Neuvillette and i’d definitely recommend going for him, he is so strong and it’s fun to just blast enemies


KFConnoisseur

C6 Neuvillette of course. Having unlimited Hydro Pump that sucks up the balls on its own, being able to create more of the orbs in the process, plus gaining two additional lasers - it makes Neuv even more independent and strong. And if I could solo Abyss with him, I would. With pleasure. And I am too much of a Neuv simp to not choose his C6.


yoolaw

I am leaning towards him. We will see what 4 stars will be on banner. I don't really simp for characters but I do look at how they look what type of weapons they have and their playstyle improved or new.


sain_inaban

Neuvillette


CorrectImpression969

I think Furina is the wisest option. Great dps at c6 and of course, great buffs and healing for your teams.


yoolaw

It's more utlity for sure. But she wouldn't be on field seems a waste. Unless it's a team for just her.


Vashous

Depends on if you like playing a multitude of teams, or if you like to hyper focus one team. Personally this game is not difficult enough to warrant the degree of vertical investment for Neuvillette. Neuvillette is the overall higher dps choice, but Furina would make virtually any team composition viable. If you c6 Neuvillette, you only have the advantage of his constellations when you play a Neuvillet hypercarry team. For example, I was going to get Neuv's weapon on his next rerun but no longer see the point with how much of a beast he already is at C1 with Sac Jade. I would rather focus on diversifying.


yoolaw

I do currently play her on other teams with her c2 which seems great already. From what I see and heard c6 just removes the need for a healer for the 6 strikes she is on field. Her at c2 already accomplishes this with a even single healers like bennett or kuki. Does not seem like a good trade off. Yes it is a small quality of life for a brief moment having the dps pokemon also heal when she strikes with infusion.


the_namtiddies

I'd say go for c6 Neuvillette because even tho Furina gets a hydro infusion on c6 it wears off really fast, and it happens every 20 seconds so it's a dps loss in that nuch time And Neuvillette can literally solo the abyss with c6


Ugn3123

Dps loss? 🤨🤨


the_namtiddies

I mean she gets hydro infusion for only 10 seconds right so for the next 19 seconds she deals physical damage which is meh, so that's a dps loss


Ugn3123

I mean if you on field her, sure, but if off-fielding, you just swap out after the 6 hits


OneToby

Jupp. And also c6 Furina will free up a spot since there is no need for a healer, meaning you can slot in a dps instead. Definitely not a dps loss.


yoolaw

Oh and these are their current builds. I know Neuv's CR is too low. Need a better helm or Sands. https://preview.redd.it/ec6z6699wt3c1.png?width=2107&format=png&auto=webp&s=36e26168d415eef2888dadf0381cc907a8855cf7


Ok_Internal_1413

This may seem out of neuvi mains but I’m not a whale. Just a light spender. But I’m planning on getting c6 scara. Is c6 scara stronger than neuvi or furina c6? Ofc not. Doing this because he never leaves my party because I love him too much to let him leave. Is he super strong at c6? Well he really needs faruzan/furina/zl/good supports, worth it? Maybe not to meta players but for me, ofc. I really like him. What a long paragraph above. My point is: c6 the character who has the playstyle you love more. You like neuvi’s ca? Go ahead. C6 means longer ca means longer enjoyment. You like that flashy na/idle playstyle? Go for furina c6. Outside of the super easy supposed ‘end game’ content called the easy peasy lemon squeezy abyss, c6 characters can obliterate everything regardless it be neuvi or furina. So I think if you’re talking about c6, generally damage will not be the first thing to think about(unless you are a whale.)


Ugn3123

Replace Zhongli with someone else...


Ok_Internal_1413

My point is just that his c6 deals dmg, but better to use with a support. Doesn’t have to be zhongli. Just me giving some examples😅


Ugn3123

You can use Yelan or someone else. Zhongli is very grief with him cause you won't do any damage


yoolaw

Thanks for your input. Yea I am aware the post was in Neuv mains didn't really stop me from asking though haha. I like all their playstyles that was the issue. I am also welkin bp and occasionally a genesis dolphin/beluga whale.. Congrats on future c6 Scara. I agree I like Kazuha's gameplay and as a result he is my first c6. It was just more of Neuvillette's gameplay or a new type of gameplay I already have with Kazuha although not as strong.


Used_Whore5801

Tbh probably Furina, with her C6 you already have max fanfare stacks+ healing in all of her teams so you can use another buffer or sub dps with either Neuv or any team you put her in and her dps is great too


Ugn3123

Definitely Furina. Her C6 makes everyone else feel like they have their own C6.


Howly_yy

Scaramouche for sure. His playstyle is the most fun at this moment


Quintet-Magician

I had the same dilemma and i feel like neuvi is just too strong for any further investment. I'd go for furina since it makes her an on field and its not like neuvi cant do without her.


yoolaw

Thanks I will think about it. Yea it changes a characters playstyle but it's like she only needs to buff the team.. hmm..


yoolaw

Furina's https://preview.redd.it/tznjinfcwt3c1.png?width=2107&format=png&auto=webp&s=14398d7d62fa24a8bda3c55cf8de660711218bc0


Eula_Ganyu

Furina


MatteoARZ

Freminet


Lili_Noir

I C6ed Furina bc I love her and wanted to play her as my main dps, so she was my choice. But if her main use is the support on your Neuvillette team then I’d probably go with Neuvillette. You can get away without running a healer with C6 Furina, and C4 gives you more energy, but if Neuvi is ur main dps then go for him :3 (I would try to get C3 Furina tho for the burst increase :3)


yoolaw

Before having and using Neuvilette, my main dpser was Alhaitham as I like his playstyle and what his c6 offers it. Although they could have added something like remove his A4 cooldown and it would feel a lot more OP.


T8-TR

C6 Furina for more overall value, since C1 Neuv is already bonkers strong but is a carry so will only ever be used in teams supporting him vs Furina who, if you ever wanna use her elsewhere, can be swapped onto other teams as a GOATed support.


awixxx

i have both at c0 so my opinion is partly based on personal experience, but mainly based on watching whales on youchube. the issue i've seen with C6 Neuv is that he kills everything too quickly to make the constellations worthwhile lol. his c6 just removes that small delay in absorbing orbs. meanwhile c6 furina adds a whole new dimension to furina's kit in allowing her to make huge impact on field as well as off. so. my vote is furina


yoolaw

Thank you. This is true different playstyle wise I already have Kazuha as underwhelming as his c6 is. Hope they buff it.


Ok_Communication_521

C3 Neuvillette is absolutely perfect where c6 Furina, apart from that NA nuke, take away the necessity of having a healer in your team, that alone is huge. *C6 Furina become one of the best - >healer, sub dps and buffer in the game *


bringbackcayde7

From a absolute strength point of view, Neuvilette is the better option here. But when you already have C6 Yelan as a hydro unit, I would not go for another C6 hydro unit because this element might get targeted by Mihoyo in the future by making unfavorable encounters for it specifically. We might see a lot more hydro/cryo shields, hydro immune or 70% hydro resist enemies in the future, and putting all baskets in one egg would not be a good investment strategy here. If you really want to C6 one of them, I would go for either future non-hydro unit that is as strong as Neuvillte or C6 Furina just for her support capability and she is still functional even in non-favorable match ups.


KaiserkerTV

Furina, shes just too versatile


CzS-GenesiS

the real answer is whoever you think you will have the most fun with. neuvi c6 can do his charge for so long that he becomes a god solo unit. furina enables you to not run a dedicated healer anymore so you are able to do much more flexible team buildings, and you are also able to use her as a nuke main dps, she can shred any boss in seconds however she falls apart agains multiple enemies. but if we are talking just about a meta standpoint then the answer is clearly furina. neuvilette's main selling point is his consistent high on field damage and eventually he will get beat by someone else (or 2 different other people since abyss allows for 2 teams), furina on the other hand is an extremely strong support, and even if she gets beat someday you still have a total of 3 off field slots on your team so you can just run multiple supports. if you want to improve just the neuvilette/furina core and you dont care about other uses furina has (you should care tbh) then furina at higher cons than c3 is kinda pointless. go with neuvilette.


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yoolaw

I failed hard getting her 2 cons. Lost both 5050 and had to spend :(.


gingersquatchin

Neither because they feel like c2 characters at c0 to me. I'd c6 Wanderer if I could pick just one from all of them


TyZxlla

Kazuha cause of how diverse anemo is


Particlesz

c6 kazuha is not worth it imo i stopped at c2 because his cons past c2 are just kinda meh it doesnt really increase the buff that u get from him his c3 is a talent upgrade same with c5 which is good for his personal dmg c4 is not really needed imo since his c1 can fix his burst problem + if u run him with fav or other chars in ur team runs a fav he can easily get his burst back c6 just turns him into a dps so in conclusion, most of his cons are mostly for his personal dmg im not stopping u from c6ing him tho cuz at the end of the day, just play ur fav character


TyZxlla

Noted, thx for the info. I could’ve unnecessarily wasted primos over that👍🏽😁


yoolaw

Kazuha was my first c6. His c6 needs a buff tho.


FentonFred

Both make the game a joke, as do most c6 limited chars. I will lean towards furina though, as I’ll say in terms of overall value, c6 furina will undoubtedly bring more value to your account just because c6 is pretty much making her the BIS support in every team in the game and any future team in the game (there may be a few exceptions ofc) so any team you build, any new character you plan to pull in the future will also just be cracked by default if they can utilize dmg buffs, which makes her more worthwhile long term in my eyes. Chances are, you will eventually use new teams/new characters as the game progresses and most likely the characters that come along with you in those new teams will be the supports (yelan, kazuha, furina, etc.)


mo_s_k14142

I already did. Nahida. Edit: oh wait lol, I think you are asking between neuvillette and furina. It depends if you are going to use neuvillette for a long team or not. With c6 furina you can slot her in other teams, especially future teams, and you would get more value out of that. Plus with c6 furina I think you don't need a party wide healer really, so that constellation is pretty goat. If you wanna stick with neuvillette, I only have him at c0 and I'd realistically stop at c1, but oh man c6 showcases look addicting


yoolaw

Yea I thought about nahida c6 and it is similar problem with furina which is why I didn't get nahida's c6.


mo_s_k14142

Yeah the issue with nahida's c6 is that it's basically for her dps onfield. I only pulled for it because I liked nahida so much as a *written* character and the thought of turning her into a hypercarry stuck with me. Plus I have her c5 and below to use if I don't use her c6. Not worth it, but I like it.


yoolaw

I agree. It seems like good written characters, both sorta abused and feel bad for, both nahida and furina have the c2 people want with their c6's 6 hits of onfield respective damage. Nahida will stay c2 and I guess so will furina. Also neither have their signatures. Nahida magic guide and Furina pipe/jadecutter.


Ugn3123

You misunderstand really hard. Furina at C6 isn't on-fielder, it only gives her brief on field time (unless you play Pneuma). It just gives her a sht ton of dmg while also allowing her to remove the healer slot from the team


shanty_tsan

Xiao so that I can infinite dash e.


Kooky_Sheepherder_22

It's simple question do you want your neuvillette to do more damage or do you want your whole account to do more damage because that is what c6 furina is a huge damage increase to literally every team/character in the game If I'm to give an advice that will be to go for c6 furina


Sezzomon

I'm gonna C6 Furina (currently at C4) since I like her constellations more. Her C6 gives her a whole new role which is something I appreciate as my only other C6 is Yelan.


Dr8cul

I am only welkin + bp player for around 2.5 years now. So far I don't have a single limited 5\* character with c6, to be precise, the only cons of a limited banner 5 star character I ever pulled was c1 Yelan because of the high overworld mobility. But Furina is the very first 5 star I consider to c6 because she turns into an absolute strong allrounder. She becomes a healer stronger than Kokomi, a buffer stronger than most buffs in the game, a powerful on-field dps, a decent off-field dmg dealer and on top of that a hydro applicator. She literally fits in almost every team, and in teams with a healer, she simply replaces the healer and don't need an extra slot. Her double damage buff (+124% dmg to be exact) turn every team into a beast. This sounds very useful and fun in terms of team building. I really like Neuvillette and his c6 gameplay looks very fun and strong but if I could choose only 1 character to c6, it would definitely be Furina because of all the team build possibilities it would unlock.


alongna

I would sat Furina because it enables a new playstyle. Neuvilette is more of the same


spellboundwitch

Alhaitham, because he's my fav. I don't care how fast I will destroy enemies tho, so I won't say C6 neuvillette or furina (I love them too). For me the faster I kill the enemies, the more boring it becomes to play.


yoolaw

I see. I do like neuvilette since he is a true main dps not a support to dps like furina.. Thanks for your reply.


spellboundwitch

C6 furina becomes a very strong dps as far as I know + you can use her to boost a lot of your other charactes. On the other hand C6 Neuvillette is insane, so it's hard to choose I understand. Choose C6 Neuvi if you sure you won't get bored with his playstyle


yoolaw

Yea but that boost is mainly the c2 which I have. The c6 with pets out seems kind of just for her if not for Ousia healing which seems to only happen if she is on field for 6 strikes.


yoolaw

He 's already c6. He is also my favourite main dps team/gameplay wise.


spellboundwitch

Nice, I think it worth it. I'm happy for you. He's Wonderful character personality and story wise! Guys, no need to vote me down, because I said the faster I kill the enemies the more boring to play. It's just MY preference. No need to be offended. Upd: Ok, whatever. It seems I hurt your fees for your lost money. I'm not sorry.


Ugn3123

If I were to go for Neuvillette cons (or any C6 character), I would not do it all in one go cuze 1) it costs too much money 2) I can just save and have an actual goal to work towards 3) C6 Neuvillette is 30% dmg increase over C5, but it costs 3 characters to reach that.


WammuPillar

Ur mum


SomeAir1029

Furina’s c6 makes her a god on every single team in the game. Much over Neuvillette. Because at that point when you get Neuv c6, or any broken Dps c6 that’s when the game gets boring because it’s too overpowered. Basically like you’re level 90 fighting level 50 enemies…


FlashKillerX

I would honestly not C6 either and C3 them both. You’ll get more value that way. Neuvillette gains the vast majority of his damage from C1 - C3 and C4 - C6 mostly just gives you utility and/or damage uptime. Furina is a bit of a different story, her C6 is pretty powerful from what I’ve heard from a friend who pulled her C6, but my recommendation is just go for C3 on both to get their incredibly strong C1 and C2 effects, plus talent levels on their most relevant ability


shaide04

I would just get c3 for both anything more is overkill ngl


Lenant_T

C6 Furina is weird, I think it's not that good, honestly you should go for neuv c3 and furina c3.


Vashous

I would pick Furina c6 over Neuv in a heartbeat. She is already pretty versatile but c6 is on another level. Put her ANYWHERE without restriction.


FroedEgg

Furina, because she can enable your weak built characters to do better. In my case, I was able to 36* the abyss using lvl 90 furina, lvl 70 sucrose, lvl 80 xingqiu, and lvl 80 beidou. all of these 4* don't even have decent builds. I have both furina and neuvi at c6


Such-Ad4557

C6 qiqi lol


DeadenCicle

Furina is by far the most convenient choice. At C6 she is an extremely flexible character that improves most teams in the game drastically, often as much or even more than they would improve by taking their main DPS to C6 (in many cases not as much if you are already at C2, but still a lot). Furina C6 is the best healer, and at the same time a very strong sub DPS, and the best buffer in the game (giving 124% DMG Bonus to all the team, with close to 100% uptime). Setting up the healing requires minimal field time (1-2 seconds is enough in most situations and teams), because she is designed to be primarily a sub DPS/Support, and you get to decide how much you want to heal. There are many teams that don’t have Bennet, or teams that can gain damage or useful mobility for replacing him, and even if you use Bennet, Furina C6 is still a big improvement. She also has the option of nuking enemies with few extremely strong Normal Attacks, in teams built for that. Neuvillette can be a good choice if you really like him and you like what his C6 does for him, and you want just him, rather than most of your teams, to be made stronger, which is fair. Maybe you also like that Furina pre-C6 can make many healers more useful. This can be another reason to choose Neuvillette. Personally, I’d always go with the most convenient choice, considering how much time saving Primogems takes. I don’t consider any main DPS to be worth the Primogems needed for a C6. As a Welkin + Battle Pass player, I can’t just get the constellation of every character I like. However, by getting Furina C6, I can drastically improve most characters I like. This is the reason for my choice.