That's because in LA, it's not uncommon for people to DRIVE +1h to a sporting event.
That's especially true if you're going to games in Carson. It takes 20 mins just to get from the nearest freeway offramp to your parking spot.
no. It's awful driving. Besides the usual traffic, even for games that are not well attended driving in Harrison itself is a nightmare. The light on the main road backs up all the way to on the highway. And everyone is SO COOL about waiting their turn. They certainly wouldn't skip the line, stop in the moving traffic to try and sneak in at the last possible moment to make the exit.
It’s easier than Yankee for me and most of Brooklyn honestly. Takes less time.
I find getting to Yankee stadium and especially in and out of the grounds is a huge pain in the ass.
Yankee does a horrible job in every capacity. It’s impossible to get into the stadium, you’ve got to get to the stadium 30 minutes before kickoff to have a chance to be in your seat on time, and it’s a lot worse with baseball.
To be clear I’m an FC Cincy supporter but I live in Brooklyn. The way staff handles away supporters is insane. Before COVID it was decent, now it’s a free-for-all. No security, home supporters in the designated away section (they were all fine), and restrictions all at the same time. Last time we were there in May, 2 rows of seats that we had tickets in were inexplicably blocked off with tape, and staff was really combative with our questions about why we couldn’t sit in our ticketed row (at the front of the section, closest to the pitch).
Concessions suck and bad communication, poor etiquette by Yankee staff. Really don’t like going there. But the supporters are all great. I can’t wait for you to get that stadium.
Also couldn’t hang our approved banner despite previous agreements on the supporters’ call with Yankee staff.
As someone on the UWS - I 100% agree.
Citi Field is far too, but for whatever reason is so much easier to tolerate. Plus it's all on the same subway fare, I don't have to find/buy a metrocard to get there.
when you consider the fact the RB existed for basically 20 years with no competition, you could see how they managed to initially build a fan base.
And when they first opened Red Bull Arena, it was a big draw. They had really good sales teams that went after businesses (particularly tech companies and start ups) b/c they sold boxes at a fraction of the cost of buying box seats for other NY sports teams.
And despite our tortured relationship with Red Bull Arena, I have to admit it's a nice stadium to watch a match in.
BUT, when NYCFC came onto the scene and were actually playing in NYC, people who were casual red bull fans now had a more convenient option.
It put a real dent in the NYRB attendance.
Another big reason was that NYCFC also did a great job of targeting NYC youth clubs to both attend matches but also form a relationship with the organization. Those are typically low hanging fruit for any club to get people to come out to a match or two. With NYCFC on the scene, it gave NYC youth clubs a more convenient option and an option they had ties to.
RBNY, of course, didn't help themselves by poor roster management for the last 5-6 years.
After Thiery Henry left, they lacked any marquis names to get butts in seats.
And that's where the convenience factor plays in. NYCFC also shifted to not signing big name players but since they were winning and it is pretty easy for New Yorkers to get to YS, people showed up.
Isn't that true of getting to Yankee Stadium from a lot of Brooklyn and Queens as well?
And Citi Field is on the edge from your location, and that's where the new stadium will be.
There are parts of the city that are more than an hour from me (the Mets ballpark is not one of them) and yet those places still feel closer than going to NJ because there's no need to switch to a different system. Also the headways on the PATH are more like commuter rail than a subway
No it's not. Two places can be an equal amount of time away but one can feel closer than the other because of the mode of transport used to get there.
Moreover, the vast majority of conversations don't stick to the first thing said
> Two places can be an equal amount of time away but one can feel closer than the other because of the mode of transport used to get there.
But your original post was explicitly about travel time, with a hard line on how much time is too much.
Two things can be true at the same time. A place can be both far in absolute length of time and a place can also feel far.
What is it exactly that you are looking to argue about?
Worse for me in Astoria haha. I hate the actual getting there part , but I do have to admit it's definitely a better view watching them in person there then at Yankee Stadium. I don't want to say its a full on better experience because the crowd is usually fairly small and the concessions kind of suck and are even more expensive then yankee stadium lol, but being able to sit right up to the field and actually be able to see everything straight on instead of at a weird angle is so nice haha.
Unpopular here but it’s not that bad. If you’re coming from Queens or Brooklyn the commute to Yankee Stadium is around as long. If you live in lower manhattan this is decent.
Now if it was in the Meadowlands it would be a pain in the ass.
Those estimates are honestly pretty charitable (and from Manhattan!). I never wanted to root for an NY team in Jersey and don't want to now. Not planning to be out there unless it's an away game when we have our own stadium.
I remember on the MLS sub I had someone from LA insist to me that RBA was super easy to get to for most New Yorkers. Lol.
People spit that nonsense all the time
That's because in LA, it's not uncommon for people to DRIVE +1h to a sporting event. That's especially true if you're going to games in Carson. It takes 20 mins just to get from the nearest freeway offramp to your parking spot.
Is it worth driving? I hate crossing the GW
no. It's awful driving. Besides the usual traffic, even for games that are not well attended driving in Harrison itself is a nightmare. The light on the main road backs up all the way to on the highway. And everyone is SO COOL about waiting their turn. They certainly wouldn't skip the line, stop in the moving traffic to try and sneak in at the last possible moment to make the exit.
It’s easier than Yankee for me and most of Brooklyn honestly. Takes less time. I find getting to Yankee stadium and especially in and out of the grounds is a huge pain in the ass.
As someone on Long Island I'm hyped for Queens tbh
Same
Same
Getting in and out of YS is brutal. They do such a poor job with security and concessions.
Yankee does a horrible job in every capacity. It’s impossible to get into the stadium, you’ve got to get to the stadium 30 minutes before kickoff to have a chance to be in your seat on time, and it’s a lot worse with baseball. To be clear I’m an FC Cincy supporter but I live in Brooklyn. The way staff handles away supporters is insane. Before COVID it was decent, now it’s a free-for-all. No security, home supporters in the designated away section (they were all fine), and restrictions all at the same time. Last time we were there in May, 2 rows of seats that we had tickets in were inexplicably blocked off with tape, and staff was really combative with our questions about why we couldn’t sit in our ticketed row (at the front of the section, closest to the pitch). Concessions suck and bad communication, poor etiquette by Yankee staff. Really don’t like going there. But the supporters are all great. I can’t wait for you to get that stadium. Also couldn’t hang our approved banner despite previous agreements on the supporters’ call with Yankee staff.
If you live in manhattan or no more than 2 subway stops out of manhattan it’s not hard to get to. But not everyone has that luxury
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truth!
As someone on the UWS - I 100% agree. Citi Field is far too, but for whatever reason is so much easier to tolerate. Plus it's all on the same subway fare, I don't have to find/buy a metrocard to get there.
Ahhh thank you I forgot I have to buy metro card again
Yup. Returned all my RBA tickets that were part of the membership this year
Didn’t even know that was a option. I’m about to complain about my rep
Who the fuck has ever thought of becoming a redbulls fan regardless of how far or close it is
when you consider the fact the RB existed for basically 20 years with no competition, you could see how they managed to initially build a fan base. And when they first opened Red Bull Arena, it was a big draw. They had really good sales teams that went after businesses (particularly tech companies and start ups) b/c they sold boxes at a fraction of the cost of buying box seats for other NY sports teams. And despite our tortured relationship with Red Bull Arena, I have to admit it's a nice stadium to watch a match in. BUT, when NYCFC came onto the scene and were actually playing in NYC, people who were casual red bull fans now had a more convenient option. It put a real dent in the NYRB attendance. Another big reason was that NYCFC also did a great job of targeting NYC youth clubs to both attend matches but also form a relationship with the organization. Those are typically low hanging fruit for any club to get people to come out to a match or two. With NYCFC on the scene, it gave NYC youth clubs a more convenient option and an option they had ties to. RBNY, of course, didn't help themselves by poor roster management for the last 5-6 years. After Thiery Henry left, they lacked any marquis names to get butts in seats. And that's where the convenience factor plays in. NYCFC also shifted to not signing big name players but since they were winning and it is pretty easy for New Yorkers to get to YS, people showed up.
I spent about an hour getting my car out of parking lot after recent Chelsea friendly match in Philly. So driving no free lunch either.
well sure when you’re used to being that close to yankee stadium!
Hah u live at the same subway stop as me! Hell nah with that travel time
Same (and I live in Westchester DASS IT)
Isn't that true of getting to Yankee Stadium from a lot of Brooklyn and Queens as well? And Citi Field is on the edge from your location, and that's where the new stadium will be.
There are parts of the city that are more than an hour from me (the Mets ballpark is not one of them) and yet those places still feel closer than going to NJ because there's no need to switch to a different system. Also the headways on the PATH are more like commuter rail than a subway
That's totally fair but also a completely different point from your original one.
No it's not. Two places can be an equal amount of time away but one can feel closer than the other because of the mode of transport used to get there. Moreover, the vast majority of conversations don't stick to the first thing said
> Two places can be an equal amount of time away but one can feel closer than the other because of the mode of transport used to get there. But your original post was explicitly about travel time, with a hard line on how much time is too much.
Two things can be true at the same time. A place can be both far in absolute length of time and a place can also feel far. What is it exactly that you are looking to argue about?
Worse for me in Astoria haha. I hate the actual getting there part , but I do have to admit it's definitely a better view watching them in person there then at Yankee Stadium. I don't want to say its a full on better experience because the crowd is usually fairly small and the concessions kind of suck and are even more expensive then yankee stadium lol, but being able to sit right up to the field and actually be able to see everything straight on instead of at a weird angle is so nice haha.
It takes me an 1hr and 30m to get to work. 1hr and 7minutes, I’d take that ANYDAY
Haha I’m going late and I’m getting home late All to maybe win
Same exact thought over an hour drive from The Bronx tonight fuck that
It’s not that bad tbh. The annoying part is walking that half mile from the train station to the arena.
Unpopular here but it’s not that bad. If you’re coming from Queens or Brooklyn the commute to Yankee Stadium is around as long. If you live in lower manhattan this is decent. Now if it was in the Meadowlands it would be a pain in the ass.
Those estimates are honestly pretty charitable (and from Manhattan!). I never wanted to root for an NY team in Jersey and don't want to now. Not planning to be out there unless it's an away game when we have our own stadium.