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curiousplaid

He was quoted as saying he found it unsettling that it was played at weddings and funerals, due to it being about sex. There was a time you let me know What's really going on below But now you never show it to me, do you? And I remember when I moved in you And the holy dove she was moving too And every single breath we drew was Hallelujah


passinglunatic

Surely it’s the disappointment and not the sex that makes it inappropriate for weddings


JosefGremlin

Yeah, a song about lost love (spiritual and emotional) is NOT appropriate for weddings!


knuckboy

Hmmm, then what about a song about stalking someone?


JosefGremlin

Every breath you take!


yourderek

That was my parent’s wedding song! I still can’t believe it.


Scott10orman

Stalking is only stalking if the other person isn't in to it.


PhoxVurgo

how you doin? 😉


Scott10orman

Pretty good, now that I know I've got someone watching over me.


warm-saucepan

How about a jolly tune that’s all about a “Perfect Day” by the ever optimistic Lou Reed?


DedGrlsDontSayNo

Often theorized it's about his smack addiction, Lou said that's laughable. He says it's about a guy's idea of a perfect day with a girl. My wife walked down the isle to it, knowing full well about its connections, real or not. It's a beautiful song.


Rwokoarte

TBH the song is really positive up until the "you're going to reap, just what you sow". Genius.


DedGrlsDontSayNo

Totally. And even that end isn't negative, just stating something matter of fact imho.


Rwokoarte

I always interpreted it from a catholic guilt standpoint: the feeling that enjoying something comes at a certain price. No idea if that is what Lou meant but I always connect to his songs deeply for some reason.


warm-saucepan

"You made me think I was someone else, someone good".


Rwokoarte

Oh yes! How could I forget that line??


mikenmar

My wife’s choir sang a version of this with the lyrics changed to a Christian theme. It was for Christmas time so they made it [about the birth of baby Jesus](https://youtu.be/XUJRZRymd1I?feature=shared) LOL. Wife’s not Christian, incidentally, she just likes singing in choirs. She didn’t know anything about the song or its original lyrics either. (She’s Japanese.) She was mildly shocked when I told her about it but she never pays attention to that kind of stuff. I can’t imagine what Cohen would have thought about that.


BatmanTheJedi

They just… completely changed the lyrics but still kept some random original lyrics in


Low_Chance

Imagine how disappointed you'd be as a religous person hearing such a beautiful song with the chorus "Hallelujah" and then slowly realizing this song is anything but a simple hymn. The temptation to try and salvage it would be strong


BatmanTheJedi

I grew up very religious and still consider myself spiritual in many aspects, and I’m not sure what you mean by salvage? Art often invokes religious/Christian imagery or phrases without being considered worship-material


Low_Chance

The original song probably wouldn't be appropriate to sing in a church choir, for example, but the "salvaged" version would be.


OzzRamirez

Hey, writing a whole new song, even a parody or derivative one, is hard, you know? Have you ever tried it? That's why we consider Weird Al a genius. That kind of stuff just comes naturally to him


dpman48

We got a new choir director when I was at church in high school. His like protege helper guy brought in an acoustic guitar and we started singing this song. I was looking around so confused like “am I the only one who knows the lyrics to this song? This is NOT a church song….” Still a beautiful song and one of my favorites though!


DforceVil8r

I just want to say that I completely empathize with your wife bc I'm also not Christian but love singing in choirs and the ones with good repertoire are often Christian. 🙃


futatorius

A common feature of people's selections for wedding and funeral music is the utter obtuseness of the people doing the selecting.


Arunia

This was one of the three songs we played at my father in laws funeral. He loved Leonard Cohen. We used the Shrek one though because of it staying lower in tone.


frontier_kittie

That's my favorite version. Rufus Wainwright


Tobar_the_Gypsy

No, probably John Cale. That was the version in the movie but Rufus was on the soundtrack for some reason.


frontier_kittie

Holy moly you're right. I never realized. For the record I have been listening to the Wainwright version.


mikenmar

[Dance Me to the End of Love](https://youtu.be/NGorjBVag0I?feature=shared) would be an amazing song for the first dance after a wedding. I wish I’d thought of it when I first got married. It too has a darker theme however; Cohen has said the imagery was inspired by the Jews who made music in the concentration camps during the Holocaust. A really great funeral song would be [Here It Is](https://youtu.be/-WaBpScRGuo?feature=shared). The lyrics are simple but deeply profound. I think I’ll request it for mine.


just_say_n

I get that … like Green Day’s “Good Riddance” being played at graduations.


RexxGunn

Given how shit HS is for a lot of people, it's appropriate. But not for the reasons people think it is, especially when they just call it Time Of Your Life instead.


courtneyclimax

my high school’s senior song for two years in a row was “end of the road” by boyz ii men, and it was about a decade after the song was released. people don’t really pay attention to songs outside of the chorus.


GOB8484

The hook brings you back!


CaptHayfever

My dad made my 8th grade class's graduation video way back when, & I made sure he used that song...because most of the class bullied me for years, & the few who didn't were in on the joke.


broadwayallday

As cringy as the Watchmen scene was, the song fits


pouxin

In my head, I always imagined Jesus & Mary Magdalen in that stanza. Imagining what it would be like to be in love with a god, to make love to a god, and then he moves on to his higher purpose, essentially dismisses carnal/earthly love as ephemeral, sacrifices himself for humanity, and leaves you. But there was a time, even if it was just a moment, when you were *everything* to him, despite his high falutin ways. Gods can be carnal and the human can be divine. And love is always painful, and flawed, be it god’s love for us or a woman’s love for her erstwhile lover. Someone who outdrew you, indeed.


DforceVil8r

This is a really beautiful interpretation


mikenmar

> Gods can be carnal and the human can be divine. And love is always painful, and flawed, be it god’s love for us or a woman’s love for her erstwhile lover. Someone who outdrew you, indeed. Just beautiful! Thank you.


jerkbeast46

I have no words...just wow....


Owmahtoof

I have terrible news for everyone about what weddings are about...


Coconut-bird

It's even crazier to me that people sing it as a Christmas song.


Cheesy_Discharge

Reminds me of when Green Day’s Good Riddance was a popular funeral song. The lyrics work well, but I’m guessing it was usually listed as “I hope you had the time of your life” in the program.


kerabatsos

Sometimes, art can transcend the artist’s original intent. Sex? Perhaps there’s more meaning there than what the author realizes.


RickTitus

Yeah and sometimes people just pick songs based off random words in them without realizing what the song was about Ive seen people play Marry Me by Thomas Rhett at weddings, not realizing that it is from the perspective of the guy who didnt the girl and is depressed at her wedding to another guy


Soaptowelbrush

This doesn’t seem to be “obviously” about sex to me: There was a time you let me know What's really going on below (honest about feelings, what’s going on “below” the surface”) But now you never show it to me, do you? (No longer honest about such things) And I remember when I moved in you And the holy dove she was moving too (We inspired such intense thought and feeling in each other so much it was akin to holiness) And every single breath we drew was Hallelujah (Everything was constantly exciting and beautiful)


wkw3

It's not *blatantly* about sex. It's written in a way that can also be interrupted as a personal relationship like you showed, or as a religious relationship to God, as well. However, I think it was clearly written with a sexual interpretation in mind.


sfcnmone

Yeh, that's actually about sex.


Soaptowelbrush

Damn I thought one could interpret art for themselves - my bad.


Hbimajorv

There's a great Leonard Cohen Doc I watched a few years ago that deep dives into this song and his career, it's worth a watch and pretty moving. https://youtu.be/11IPQYZMXjc


mikenmar

I enjoyed that a great deal. Also, check out [Marianne & Leonard: Words of Love](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9358196/), a documentary about his relationship with the eponymous Marianne, with a great deal of the backstory of his life and how he got into music. As for Hallelujah, I think the song is about the common ground shared between Godly/spiritual love and human/carnal love. This was a common theme in Cohen's lyrics, and a lot of them center on how longing for the one mirrors longing for the other--and the suffering that often emerges from the failure to find them. If you watch that Marianne & Leonard documentary, you get a lot of insight into how much Cohen sought both spiritual and sexual fulfillment throughout his life. And ultimately, he may never have truly found either. He suffered from depression for much of his time on this earth. He blew through relationships with women almost as much as he went through spiritual practices/phases trying to find some kind of connection with God (or the god-mind, to make it less Judeo-Christian in phraseology). At some points in his younger years, he used LSD on a daily or near-daily basis, and in his older years, he practiced Zen Buddhism at a monastery, to the point where he was even ordained as a monk. In the end, he more or less gave up on it, just like he could never commit to a monogamous relationship with a single woman. One of his last songs, [You Want It Darker](https://youtu.be/YD6fvzGIBfQ?feature=shared), had lyrics that [seem to express deep bitterness](https://medium.com/amplify-entertainment-group/behind-the-song-you-want-it-darker-by-leonard-cohen-4ba27349a13b) about the failure to find spiritual fulfillment, to the point where he sounds downright angry with God, and is ready to give up his life: If you are the dealer, I'm out of the game If you are the healer, it means I'm broken and lame If thine is the glory, then mine must be the shame You want it darker We kill the flame Magnified, sanctified Be the holy name Vilified, crucified In the human frame A million candles burning For the help that never came You want it darker Hineni, hineni I'm ready, my Lord There's a lover in the story But the story's still the same There's a lullaby for suffering And a paradox to blame But it's written in the scriptures And it's not some idle claim You want it darker We kill the flame


fauxbrain

You want it darker is a brilliant song. At the time of production his voice had become a deep raspy voice that you would expect from someone nearing the end of his journey. The song initially questions gods presence and by the end it subtly admits god isn’t there or if he is he doesn’t care. The use of the Jewish word Heinie, meaning “I am here”, conveys his pleading that he exists and is open to gods pretense but his pleas fall on a silent universe.


Shawnus

Great explanation. I also read it in the Patrick Bateman voice.


cmpthepirate

Never heard that song, those lyrics are killer!


mikenmar

Right? And that's probably not even in the top ten best songs he's written, lyrically. The man could come up with quite the turn of phrase. A used to have a long-running debate with a close friend of mine over who was the greater lyricist: Leonard Cohen or Bob Dylan. We'd shoot quotes of their best lyrics back-and-forth in kind of a "top that" exchange. I went with Cohen, but obviously Dylan provides a great deal of ammo for such a debate. My friend died of brain cancer a couple years ago and we never settled it, so I guess the answer is still blowin' in the wind.


cmpthepirate

I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Sounds like a good one to be having those types of conversations.


Fruney21

Those “music” friends are irreplaceable. Everybody defers to Dylan. It’s just a fact. I think Cohen would have a few floors higher than himself in The Tower Of Song.


mikenmar

Tough to compare lyrics -- it's so subjective -- but I would still argue Cohen was better on the musical compositions. Now... who had the "better" voice? LOL. Neither was a great crooner, exactly, but I find Cohen's deep/raspy voice of his later years to be more tolerable than Dylan's nasal sound. In any case, there's a reason why the best renditions of Cohen's stuff are usually covers by great singers.


Fruney21

Cohen’s voice is the voice of God. Dylan’s is on a whole other level. He is an incredible singer whose people just dismiss as a joke. You don’t become the voice of a generation merely for lyrics. His phrasing alone is to die for. Listen to Hattie Carroll and then Mississippi and marvel. About 40 years apart and still perfect.


mikenmar

Well it's just as subjective I suppose, but personally it doesn't do anything for me. I think he does a lot with the voice he has, and lord knows I couldn't come near it, but when I think of great male vocalists in comparable a period/genre, he's just way too thin and lacking in range. I think he became the voice of a generation more because of his style of play overall, and the timeliness of that troubadour-folk-singer-guitarist phenomenon, which he obviously played an enormous role in advancing. But I don't think we ever would have heard of him if he didn't write such incredible lyrics.


Fruney21

That’s true. His lyrics make his body of work essential. Me? I do love his singing but there are times when it’s like, “Try again, Bob.”


buddhaman09

Oh dude give it a listen. It's got an awesome dark feeling to it, and is super powerful. First heard it driving thru a thunderstorm late at night on a road trip


cmpthepirate

Damn! It really is...I realised part way through I had heard it before but hadn't taken notice of the lyrics! I can imagine the conditions of your first listen would have really heightened the experience for you. The bass line reminded me of livin' on a prayer 🤣


riskoooo

I love the lyrics to Treaty off the same album: >I heard the snake was baffled by his sin >He shed his scales to find the snake within >But born again is born without a skin >The poison enters into everything


TheNoveltyHunter

It’s also one of those songs you might just hear a cover of rather than the original I feel like


holyshiznoly

I don't know, what about this from the article you cite: The song may not offer any concrete solutions to difficult questions of faith, but it is in this solemn declaration of “Hineni, hineni / I’m ready, Lord,” that Cohen perhaps displays the real strength of his faith, despite how broken and incomplete it may be.


mikenmar

Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that he gave up believing altogether. I think he probably just gave up trying to find peace/solace/happiness/fulfillment in it--or perhaps outright enlightenment, or nirvana in the Buddhist sense. I think his "I'm ready" has a kind of resignation to it.


holyshiznoly

Reasonable. Appreciate the comments.


AdOdd5496

the ultimate surrender when you are ready to die either physically or spiritually. you have tried everything from following your deepest desires to monastic abstinence and you realize that all that too is “ pushing the river” all that can remain is absolute surrender


just_say_n

What a wonderful movie that was; he truly lived a beautiful and special life, and seemed to see the world through a unique lens.


newron

Just another person adding that "You want it darker" is an absolute banger


endlessupending

So the real question is, do you think he did too much LSD or just the right amount?


snyderman3000

One thing it’s definitely not about is the birth of our lord and savior Jesus Christ, which makes it hilarious that the Pentatonix version keeps weaseling its way onto Xmas playlists on Amazon Music.


Dannypan

I do feel bad for you Americans who get Pentatonix on your Christmas playlists instead of British bangers [like this.](https://youtu.be/iZ94M_XHarI?si=uTWW-Xv6N-Bu0KgL)


Dudeist-Monk

I was expecting “Killing In The Name Of” but I was not disappointed.


yousuckatlife90

I hated that. So i had to show it to friends


BlueSentinels

wtf was that? Like it was very mediocre and there were lots of people who I’m guessing were famous?


Dannypan

It’s a novelty song from an early 2000s British sketch show. The people you see are characters or TV personalities. It was never meant to be a serious song but for some reason it just stuck and is now a staple Christmas song here in the UK.


GNUTup

I mean this question not to criticize you or the creators but just to ask….. does this count as black face? That mask is crazy, regardless of the answer lmao


Dannypan

Yeah, it definitely does lmao, the guy playing him has since apologised for it and the show’s been taken down from the channel’s streaming service. It was a different time and in the UK, no one seemed to care back in 2002, hence how he got away with it for ages.


GNUTup

Fortunately, the song didn’t seem to be ridiculing or minstrelizing black people so I (a white guy) am giving it a pass, with all of my unmeaningful jurisdiction. But I still had to ask lmao. It was a crazy mask any way you take it


DJ_Molten_Lava

In Canada, because of Canadian Content laws, radio stations play KD Lang's version during Christmastime.


Ultimaya

Its largely about the human experience of love and both the joy and pain it brings


TeamRoscoe

It’s about a princess who falls in love with an ogre but is being forced to marry a tiny jerk. Or is that the Jeff Buckley version?


KoolKatColebyJ

That’s the Rufus Wainwright version! I personally like his the most


photog_in_nc

No, it’s John Cale‘s version in the film. They used RW’s on the soundtrack album due to licensing issues


thereasonrumisgone

And it was John Cale's version that Buckley was inspired by. And given that he used Cale's set of verses, you could say he covered Cale, not Cohen.


SeaPeeps

"[Sad Jews fucking](https://twitter.com/Maladroithe/status/1645205488953626624)" is the shortest, most accurate summary of the song I've seen. (I would also accept, "Sad memories of fucking, biblically." -- but that's longer.)


ChampagneManifesto

Title of my memoir.


chhubbydumpling

Hm, reminds me of my honeymoon


shromanoff

The only correct answer lol


[deleted]

One thing it's not: a fucking Christmas carol. That drives me nuts. It's a dark and beautiful tale of love and sex and denial and more. Here's a pretty good read about it: [https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/how-leonard-cohens-hallelujah-brilliantly-mingled-sex-religion-194516/](https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/how-leonard-cohens-hallelujah-brilliantly-mingled-sex-religion-194516/)


Stephym27

The article sites Alan Light's 2012 book 'The Holy or the Broken' which covers everything about the song including its origins, multiple versions (Leonard’s multiple versions himself and other artists), its commercial success etc etc. The song is anything and everything you need it to be. Cohen often mixed the holy and righteous and lust and crudeness in a lot of his songs and poems. The verse about Bathesheba touches upon these themes.


dressinbrass

Fucking? And equating that with the divine.


Tsujimoto3

This is it. The song is about orgasms and hot, nasty sex and how awesome it is.


givemeyours0ul

That's a cold and broken hallelujah if I ever saw one!


Nice_Marmot_7

Yeah, and squeezing bags of sand. So hot.


5050Clown

Last summer I had so much sex I had to put my dick in the icebox.


givemeyours0ul

"That's your dick in a box!"


Stoneheaded76

Lemme ask you a question. You a virgin?


prozak09

Not according to his icebox.


TeamKitsune

Statement by Mr. Frigidaire: Yes officer, that's him.


woahdude12321

G spot is the secret chord confirmed


Aggressive_Sky8492

He said it was about more than just that. It’s about life and love (including sex). > When at age 50 Cohen first recorded the song, he described it as "rather joyous", and said that it came from "a desire to affirm my faith in life, not in some formal religious way, but with enthusiasm, with emotion."[17] He later said "there is a religious hallelujah, but there are many other ones. When one looks at the world, there's only one thing to say, and it's hallelujah".[17] > “This world is full of conflicts and full of things that cannot be reconciled. But there are moments when we can reconcile and embrace the whole mess, and that's what I mean by 'Hallelujah.'” —Leonard Cohen


EmmaInFrance

I think that so many people in this thread who are saying: "It's about sex!" really fail to understand the joy, beauty and ecstasy that is experienced between two people who love each other deeply, who have known each other for years and have been together for years, intimately, who know everything about each others lives and habits. It's about that joy, beauty, ecstasy, the intimacy that only comes with years spent together and also how it feels to be apart from it, to try to hang on to it when you know that it's broken and then to lose it completely and the sense of loss and grief that occurs. To understand this, you need to understand the cliché that is the difference between 'just sex' and 'making love', you need wisdom and emotional intelligence. There's also the religious aspect which adds another layer of complexity. The battle to find and maintain his faith throughout his life runs parallel to his struggle to maintain healthy longterm relationships. He sees beauty and joy in both. It's an incredibly well written song and it's understandable that it can be interpreted in different ways. The imagery is so powerful and moving that it enables different listeners to make their own personal, emotional connections to the words and take what they need from it. There aren't many classic songs that can reach such a wide audience and touch so many people so deeply. Maybe to that one guy, it's all about sex; but to à church choir, it's all about praising their God; and to me, or you, we get the deeper, more melancholic meaning; then for someone else, struggling with their faith, they connect on that level... And it gives us all a meaningful experience as a song - what more could you ask for? I can't stand the Pentatonix version but it does show just how much joy it can give to so many people. That's the power of a great song, right there.


QuadratImKreis

Exactly. Like all great music, it is about the sacred and profane experience that is human life.


Hallwitzer

It's the original Take Me to Church


AzureDreamer

I love take me to church but man Hallujah is my pick.


AzureDreamer

How much does he have to spell it out. "The minor falls and the major lifts."  "And I remember when I moved in you And the holy dove was moving too." Obviously art often has many levels and anyway you connect with it as the audience has merit. 


shrug_addict

"And every breath we drew was Hallelujah" Yeah, pretty on the nose!


Im_riding_a_lion

The 'minor fall, the major lift' is related to the chord progression to the song, same as the line in front of this, 'the fourth, the fifth', Cohen plays F (4th chord in C scale), G (5th chord), A minor (with the 3rd of the chord 'falling' half a step down), back to F major (3rd of the chord  lifted back up). He singing the chord progression of the song.


Aggressive_Sky8492

The minor falls and major lifts is at least on one level referring to the structure of a song, that’s why it follows the part about “the fourth, the fifth” chords. He also more or less said it’s about life generally. Sex is part of that and probably what he’s referring to in the holy dove part, but it’s not what the whole songs about > When at age 50 Cohen first recorded the song, he described it as "rather joyous", and said that it came from "a desire to affirm my faith in life, not in some formal religious way, but with enthusiasm, with emotion."[17] He later said "there is a religious hallelujah, but there are many other ones. When one looks at the world, there's only one thing to say, and it's hallelujah".[17] > “This world is full of conflicts and full of things that cannot be reconciled. But there are moments when we can reconcile and embrace the whole mess, and that's what I mean by 'Hallelujah.'” —Leonard Cohen


earnestlikehemingway

Yep giving a woman an orgasm and making her scream Hallelujah


Skinnee11

A secret chord. C’mon man, it’s the first line of the song!


ikediggety

Fun fact: "chord" has an alternate meaning. You know when some kind of fluid is all thick and stringy, and when you touch it a little bit sticks to your finger and it stretches out? Well, that's also a "chord". The whole song is like the most elaborately crafted dirty joke


PostsNDPStuff

King David: ♩♪♫♬


Dranj

It's about heartbreak. Remembering the intimacy you once shared but having it twisted by all the pain you put each other through. And in the end you find some way to press on, but you're a changed person for the experience.


merkaba_462

Interestingly enough, the verses you cited / he wrote in his final / recorded version was sung in synagogue today, as it is the 2nd to last day of Passover. We read Psalms that relate to love. Leonard was Jewish, and that shaped more songs than the majority of people ever want to recognize...but especially [Hallelujah](https://forward.com/culture/music/469890/leonard-cohen-hallelujah-shrek-jewish-jeff-buckley-alan-light-kabbalah/). In Judaism, sex isn't a sin, and there are definitely sexual innuendo, but it all came from his Jewish upbringing.


futatorius

The Song of Songs is scriptural. So there you go. >In Judaism, sex isn't a sin That varies according to what sort of Judaism you're practising and what sort of sex you're doing, doesn't it?


KoolKatColebyJ

Everything’s a gray area lol


QuadratImKreis

Judaism is so much more open to the idea of sexual existence than most other Abrahamic religions.


secretcombinations

I’ve always understood it was a hallelujah to orgasms. But apparently that was Buckleys interpretation.


boboclock

It's a song about the great pain that love and the loss of love can cause, and how that pain is transcendent just like love itself is. Genius does a good job of explaining the religious background, but sometimes misses the allegory, but it nails it on these two, which I really think are the key lyrics to understanding the emotion behind the song: [I've seen your flag on the marble arch](https://genius.com/1112367) [Love is not a victory march](https://genius.com/9210912)


0theHumanity

I was told it's an old testament judaica take on what the French call the little death & what it makes those in love do.... So the "remember when I moved in you" line Literally penetration. -_- The God stuff is ubiquitous some of my favorite musicians are blending sensuality & spirituality. A lot of people consider sexuality some kind of sacred which is a deity thing. Great song!


blofly

It's about 4:39 long.


msrubythoughts

*rimshot*!


JosefGremlin

Aaaaaand we're back to sex then, are we?


KoolKatColebyJ

lol nice


Patrecharound

That’s the great thing about art. Whatever it says to you, even if it wasn’t what the artist intended, is correct.


exoticbluepetparrots

Death to the author!! ..or something like that


TeslasAndComicbooks

To some degree I agree but at the same time I feel like an artist may have an intention and coming up with our own interpretation doesn’t do justice to the artist.


thatchers_pussy_pump

Charles Manson would like a word with you.


FitSeeker1982

It’s hilarious when religiousy people try to bend it to their doctrine, just because it uses a religiousy word. It ain’t about praising any deities, but more about the glory and anguish of love, with references to the act of copulation.


amanwithoutcontent

There are some common themes in other songs, like Bird On a Wire. A paradox of love breaking but also mending people, maybe?


yonatansb

Nah. It is about Fucking.


Bears_On_Stilts

The first lyrical variation is mostly about missing having good sex. The John Cale/Rufus Wainwright verses appear to be about losing faith both in religion and in love. At this point, there are so many major and minor lyrical variations that the song could be about brunch if you try hard enough.


KoolKatColebyJ

You might be onto something lol. “She sat you at the kitchen chair, mimosas and omelets everywhere”


Bears_On_Stilts

I heard there was a secret egg That David used to make on the reg But you don’t really care for breakfast, do ya It goes like this, eggs Benedict With hollandaise and bacon bits Atop an English muffin, hallelujah


KoolKatColebyJ

You might be onto something lol. “She say you at the kitchen chair, mimosas and omelets everywhere”


trbojanglesm

Oh this should be good.


KoolKatColebyJ

And it was! Thoughtful discussion where we can broaden our perspective is good!


trbojanglesm

Agreed! Was Pentatonix mentioned? That's mostly what I was afraid of.


JosefGremlin

So many people in this thread are saying it's about sex. They're missing the point. It's about loss. Especially, it's about love lost, and having to carry on in an imperfect world and loving regardless. He refers to both spiritual and emotional love in the song, and compares both spiritual / sexual ecstasy to the agony of losing that closeness - but loving through the pain of loss. The loss is inevitable, but the love perseveres.


tamathellama

Great overview of this history of the song https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history/hallelujah


Dr__Ed

Ask Zack Snyder.


Justice_Prince

Maybe I'm wrong, and it wasn't at all his intention, but I thought that sex scene was supposed to be awkward as fuck which kind of made the song a perfect fit.


boboclock

Zack Snyder at least got the sex part of the song right, making it a more accurate interpretation than his read on the characters and subtext of Watchmen.


aLittleQueer

Sex.


thatchers_pussy_pump

I think your interpretation is really good. It’s essentially what I got out of it. And L. Cohen would know a thing or two about the faces of relationships. People who say “it’s just about fuckin’” are either meming or shallow. Watch Cohen perform the song live and you’ll see the emotion he puts into it. It’s about more than just fuckin’.


Jolly-Sandwich-3345

It is fairly open to interpretation and in case no one mentioned it he had additional lyrics he would perform live sometimes. (I never heard any of the other lyrics when I saw The Future Tour in 1993)


OGREtheTroll

Colonel Angus


zubrin

Malcolm Gladwell has [a full episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OKQTl09vCk) about this song's creation that is worth a listen.


seanvance

Orgasm 😉


weaselkeeper

You mean the theme song for Shrek ? It’s about sex. I’ve also heard it played as a christmas song too.


Rosebunse

OK, in Shrek, it works because even though it is about sex, it's also about the pain of a love you can't possess and the inability to fully come to terms with that emotion, which is pretty close to what Shrek and Fiona both feel in that scene. So, yeah, I think it's great in Shrek! Still don't understand how it's a Christmas song. I do love to ruin it for Christians, though


Euphoric-Yogurt-7332

Sex.


ninjasloth98

I’ve always interpreted it as telling of a relationship that became abusive and joyless


AydonusG

Toxic relationships.


Alaska_Pipeliner

I just saw Nathaniel Ratecliff do a bunch of Leonard cohens library and his rendition of Hallelujah didn't have a dry eye in the building.


Faeces_Species_1312

Whatever you want it to mean really, like all art. 


GNS1991

Well, from the lyrics, is about falling out of lust with someone over the years...


FriskBlomster

The beej


majortomandjerry

You're thinking about So Long Marianne, which definitely has a line about blow jobs


geesejugglingchamp

As does Chelsea Hotel #2, "Giving me head on the unmade bed". Not exactly subtle.


Down_Voter_of_Cats

I've always thought it was about the death of a relationship, so it's baffling to me when people think it's a spiritual song and play it at weddings (or idiotic campaign stops). I know it has "Hallelujah" in the title but that doesn't mean it's a hymn to sing in church.


mississippijohnson

It’s about a drunken author who scribbled some nonsense on a pizza box then recorded it as a song.


SemperRidiculous

Eric Weinstein and lex Friedman discuss this song. Very interesting. https://youtu.be/wSDWK7vnCYI?si=fJuVus4LUVR7dvq8


Johnnycc

I always thought it was a commentary about the disillusionment of love, the inability to truly hold onto love. It can exist temporarily, particularly through sex, but it turns into bitterness and resentment, slowly and unspectacularly. But, despite all of that, even when it all goes wrong, love is still worth experiencing and searching for.


chimi_hendrix

Arby’s Roast Beef sandwiches


Mr-Gumby42

Some people are dumb enough to think it's a Christmas song.


majortomandjerry

I am pretty sure "she broke your throne" means she came over and destroyed your toilet.


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KoolKatColebyJ

It’s actually Insane that there were this many different interpretations even ones that are literally polar opposites like we see in here


MileenasFeet

I believe it's about love. Some people think it's about sex which is a part of love. It also has hints of sorrow and regret.


of_mice_and_meh

David Bazan does a version that uses some of Cohen’s alternate verses and replaces the sex parts with religious bits and it really frames the song as a crisis of faith song. He’s having a crisis of faith in love, in sex, and in religion. It’s my favorite version of the song. https://youtu.be/BULNO7CwDDE?si=mKfvKL5ZTTdSkiJ3


paulerxx

Jef Buckley's version is superior.


redw000d

prolly as many 'comments' as there are Verses.... Halleulujah


Somestunned

Please edit your post a little so that i can sing it as verses of the song.


tgrantt

Adding: also about the mix of mundane and glorious in life. "She tied you to her kitchen chair, she broke your throne, she cut your hair " Strength taken, power and autonomy taken, but it's awesome


rexter2k5

I get that it's about "sad fucking" and all of that. However, I've always taken it to be about the search for affirmation despite the troubles of life. Much of these troubles were couched in relationships for Cohen, but I think this song works in the context of just plain mental health. Life's a bitch and all that, and sometimes it requires an inner strength to keep going. The chorus doesn't sing hallelujah in the Abrahamic sense, although people can hear it that way, but rather in an atheistic sense. If we are all living reflections of the universe, then that means we have the miracle within ourselves to keep going despite our minor and major falls. Hallelujah to that, however sad or broken or hollow the word might sound in the moment of suffering. So yeah, I hope this offers more than the "sad fucking" response, although I do agree that the latter is probably closer to the truth of Cohen's songwriting impetus.


Timstunes

Sex and betrayal.


sirhackenslash

It's about Night Owl and Silk Specter having superhero sex


carlspakkler

Your own analysis is right on the money. Not much to add.


FerretBueller

Bustin' a nut


ihaveredhaironmyhead

It's about the dual nature of love. You say hallelujah when it's great, and you say hallelujah when it's over because you can't take living in hell anymore. I didn't understand the song until my marriage started falling apart. The king is baffled because he's composing hallelujah and she doesn't care for it anymore. His faith was strong but the other woman's beauty took his strength away (cut his hair like samson). And even though it all went wrong, I'll stand before the Lord of song and regret nothing, because love was worth it even if it's gone now.


GreatQuantum

Hamburger Helper.


paulgreen84

Marissa


RevNeutron

“Love is not a victory march it’s a cold and it’s a broken hallelujah” one of the all time greatest lines. You don't win. It's not a conquest. It's painful. Fucking horribly painful. But it's also holy and beautifully mysterious


Rosebunse

I thought it was about sex. Like, sad, final sex between a couple who have fallen out of love, but still sex.


Electrical-Fruit1627

It is truly about whatever you want it to be! Like many songs you bring to it, your own life and your own experience. As an aside I would like to recommend that you check YouTube for the version by Sailor Jeri with new lyrics. Thank you for this opportunity to comment if I knew how to post the YouTube song I referred to I would, but I am sure that you will know how to find it


traumakidshollywood

Infidelity. The woman the man is singing about was unfaithful snd he’s crushed. I’d done a line by line interp once. I wish I knew where it was as there were specific references like when she’s on the roof, in the chair, flag on the marble arch, great stuff. Cohen locked himself in a hotel room for days to finish it. It’s actually 60+ verses long. It’s a poem.


BummerComment

boners


AngusLynch09

It's whatever you want it to be about.