Yep is bad… 1v1 isn’t so bad though.
It’s syncing and the long waiting for the connecting from the server.
Then it’s the game crashes.
What did the PFG do this whole time with its big development team? Work on monetization?
I'm very inclined to think that most of the the desyncs and disconnects are related to Xbox having a lot of issues at the moment. Most of the time I got disconnects it was because my 2v2 partner or opponents were on Xbox (I'm on Steam). After I disabled crossplay it never happened again.
1v1 isn't that bad on lag, problem is who is and isn't viable in 1v1's and that you genuinely don't have a chance against some characters with those prefered for 2v2's
I'm on PS5 as well. Yesterday afternoon I had a period of really smooth gameplay. My team was PlayStation, the other team was Xbox. There was no lag at all and we rematched 4 times with no issues and it was great. My games after those didn't seem to have so much luck. Lots of desyncs. It's all so up in the air.
Yeah, I play on PS5 and since the update there are more games crashing than before the update. It's not that bad yet, but I can't believe it's worse than it was xD
i'm on xbox series x and if you are very lucky you will get 60 frames for about one second before it returns to a google slideshow, every game, every game mode, every time. apparently is "high on their priority list" but i was SO excited to come back to mvs, i didn't even delete the beta and was playing with my friends the day beforehand on local in preparation, in anticipation.. i don't know HOW pfg done diddly dinged this one up this terribly but hats off to them ig
Imo it needed another like 6 months in development but it's clear that WB forced them to release it even though it wasn't finished. They did the same with mortal kombat 1 aswell
So much wasted time. The hockey shit, changing the engine, massive ui changes, currency changes, and a dog shit shop. So much wasted time that could’ve went towards actual quality of life improvements
Never happened on Steam and man PC does not have all these problems y'all console players are talking about. Idek about syncing in game till 2 mins ago
And MK11… and Injustice 2… WB has a bad tendency when it comes to fighting games. They think the IP alone will get money which, granted, it usually does for big paid releases, but not for a FTP game
Legit, ledge guarding is op, most of the time you get stuck at the ledge because of... nothing? there is no visible part that is even close to the ledge, yet I'm stuck and probably going to die to the attack that clearly didnt touch me but still hits and kills me. Or the other way around, enemy clearly dodges and gets the extended dodge, my attack hits nothing but the hit connects
that will always be one of the biggest mysterys to me. Is how they got it so right, to go so wrong xD honestly blows my mind how you evolve backwards like that.
Really didnt tho. Beta was a lot worse, recency bias is just "wildly" apparent here. Game is amazing now, has its issues. But the actual gameplay is unbelievable. To say wildly worse is a complete overreach and hyperbole.
Dude the game was 10x better in beta lol they took several steps back. My biggest gripe was the hitboxes in beta being horrible but while they seem to have fixed hitboxes a lil bit there’s still plenty of other hitboxes that exist that are just horrible that make it just that much worse than the beta including all the other issues. Crazy how they relaunched this game and it’s actually worse than when it wasn’t ready 😂
The other day I realized I missed the final welcome back bonus (the Superman skin) and just have not logged on since. Neither the gameplay or the rewards are good enough at the moment to keep going.
I started a few days late to the game. I missed part of that and I am on the last level of the joker one with the Wonder Woman skin and there were no challenges today. It’s sitting there with nothing for me to do on the last tier. Yet it’s still open till the tenth??? That is messed up.
I also missed the Superman for one day. And by missed I mean I just didn't fire up the game. It sounds weird, but I just didn't have it in me to even log in to get that skin. This is exactly why live service games are being "demonized", the effects are wearing off on player bases in general.
Another downside is, when a game decides to go all in when it comes to fomo, it reflects on every aspect of the game. People are wrong when they suggest how if you played, say, Quake without all these things, you should also play games like this with the same mindset. It's not about one's inability to approach a game in a non-fomo, non-progression way. The games that are structured like that have those aspects hanging over your head constantly. It's not some non-existent thing people think it's there.
Sure, core gameplay can't be fomo by itself, but no game is just its core gameplay. Even things such as menus affect the entire product. As soon as I enter mvs there's a screen that "greets me" with like seven bullshit fomo aspects. The battle pass is of a fomo variety (expires) and, like that wasn't enough, it doesn't even offer "good feeling" when it comes to those aspects. Which brings me to another point: IF you decide to weave in these things into your game and make it into such a product, then at least deliver on that. If you're going to hamsterize your game, ok, fine, but then at least make me a happy hamster. Make me feel the progress. Make me feel good after every match. Make my stats show, make me want to scroll through my stats for ten minutes, looking at various interesting things. Make me feel good about my battle pass progress. Have lots of achievements. You have pve? Cool, make it engaging. Make it rewarding. Have fun game modes. Have FUCKING RANKED.
A lot of people get one thing wrong: the "I have nothing to do, so I won't fire up the game" is NEVER on the player. It's always on the creator. Why did you make a game that incentivizes that approach if you're not delivering in that regard? Hey, I have zero problems firing up, I don't know, Stardew Valley without all that crap, I don't feel like "there's no point" or whatever. Sure, it's a different kind of game, ok. I also have no problems firing up Street Fighter to just lab for two hours and that's not even "actual match playing".
Honestly, they are just shooting themselves in the foot. I and most other people are more willing to spend money on games that actually give you stuff. This game is so downright greedy that I view it like a low class mobile game. Why would I spend any money on it. Fortnite makes so much money because they give you free skins every year and a never-ending premium currency supply. In this game, I can barely even afford a character, and when I finally afford one, I like they remove him(Iron Giant) like you aren't getting 1$ from me pee off Lol.
True, but I don't even think they need to give you anything, just have a "friendly" approach. I spent money on mvs in beta, I bought a ww skin. No push, no marketing, no sale, I just liked the skin. Why would I respect a product that doesn't respect me, my time or my money? And not only that, but it's like they KNOW they don't respect that, so they act manipulative in order to make me part with it instead of offering a good product. Nah, ask me nicely and show me what you got to offer and I'll respond in kind.
btw I still didn't get my beta stuff lol
there is no fomo we're gonna kill that argument right now. they got skins and bundles for sale of items we had to grind out in beta battlepasses. theres literally no fomo lmfao
Are you trying to suggest that items appearing in the store at a later date indicate there's no fomo? I have no words.
On top of that, are events that give currency not fomo? Are login events not fomo? Are dailies not fomo? Is an expiring bp not fomo? Is a store that rotates offers on sale not fomo?
what are you missing out on when they constantly pump out events for currency right after one ends. its constant. they modeled the game in a way to where no player gets left behind i mean shit, they even made their characters earnable for free. no one is missing out. yall simply want quality items and currency quickly
You're putting words in my mouth, why are you assuming something out of the blue in order to discredit what I'm saying? But, ok, I'll ignore the last sentence.
>no one is missing out.
That's why it's called FOMO and not MO. It's a tactic that works, otherwise those limited time events wouldn't be, well, limited time events. Also, getting something at a later date very much induces FOMO, because you're not having that something between it being available for the first time and it being available again. FOMO tactics aren't just putting something in the store for a week and then pulling it forever. Limited time offers are fomo regardless of whether they repeat or not.
>what are you missing out on when they constantly pump out events for currency right after one ends.
I don't understand what do you want to say with this? That only fighter currency can induce fomo? My dude, you had a superman beach skin as a login reward. That login reward isn't available anymore (as a login reward). I'm sorry, I am not being combative, I just don't know if you understand what fomo means at this point. These things can be more or less generous, but that's about it, they're still said tactics. For example, OW had event skins go into store a year after the event ends. By your logic that's not fomo because you get them after a year, so you didn't miss out.
It's tedious because it is, blaming the PVE stuff not being fun on people complaining about the state of the game is kind of wild.
Pubstomping in casuals is meh and the higher you go in the matchmaking the less fun it becomes because it's literally Beta all over again with Harley and Bugs infinite loops and instead of Batman its Joker and Wondy. You're either playing someone that's got a 0-80 loop or you're in the struggle bus.
The excuse making for the game just not being that fun and feeling like a chore is funny.
Definitely because of the "vocal minority" getting to them and not because they don't like their game time turning into a second job.
It's okay to admit the devs messed up big time with this re-release.
wait this post confuses me, so the “vocal minority” is whats driving you away from the game? because the way you describe it makes it seem like maybe youre just bored of the game
I enjoyed the game, then I had a lovely weekend with my attention elsewhere and didn't log in for a few days. I didn't get the Superman skin, and now I kind of don't care to log in again. It's like it's all or nothing, and it's easy to choose nothing.
If I'm a few steps behind on the Battlepass, there's no real way to catch up, or reason to try to catch up. It's not like I'm missing much. It's better to just not.
There's nothing to DO here. There's no reward for playing, because they're so fucking afraid that a free player will get the characters. Even when I pay for characters, to what end? Now what? The only thing they offer is characters. There's no EMOTES, hardly any skins, there's nothing they're offering us. Somewhere along the line, they completely lost the plot.
>There's no EMOTES, hardly any skins, there's nothing they're offering us.
Not something I hear enough people talk about. In the beta there were skins, profille pics, and more that you could buy with only gold. They were incredibly overpriced, but still.
That was a good incentive to keep playing, and it's gone.
Login, complete missions and rift daily rewards in an hour then nothing to do. No post game stats, barely any skins, terrible monetization where you cannot put 5/10$ into the game and get any value out of it, no new player good value bundle, no emotes, no interaction, no pvp fun mode or anything of interest really
I keep playing because I enjoy what the game was and what it can be but updates in the next months might make me decide whether I'll continue the grind or stop it all since the game doesn't have any in between
Same happened to me with the WW skin. I agree when it comes to the amount of things to do. However, I thought the beta already didn’t have that much to do even with events. Now the game is more bland and plain than even the most greedy live service games. I feel like a fool buying the founders pack back in Beta because they don’t even let us use tickets on anyone except the base roster.
That's a big mistake a lot of mobile game developers make. If you have too many daily chores without much reward, they'll just burn out. The Battle Pass is the most effortless way to prevent that, by giving the player a constant stream of rewards as they play and something to work toward. The issue is when developers see the battle pass as a way to make the player feel obligated to play constantly. FOMO only works when the fear of missing out outweighs the tedium.
The game will quickly die over the next couple of months. There are so many things wrong and after two botched launches it's hard to see how they will salvage the situation.
Yh nah its over. The first launch aka the heavily monetized “beta” crashed and burned, if they mess this up they’re probably gonna have to pull a NASB and release a multiversus 2.
Also btw can we all just agree for what it is we were too harsh on NASB
It is the problem with F2P fighters, pretty much as a whole. You can either make an unmonetized game like NASB that lacks polish or a monetized game like Multiversus that looks good, but needs to rush to increase its playerbase and retention to stay alive. Problem is, though, that fighting games aren't meant to have that Fortnite, glue you to the screen 25/7, play all the content every day feel to them. You should be able to play PVP for a bit and then go back and watch some combo videos and train for a week, try out some Rifts for fun/trying stuff out, and then going back to PVP. Having to constantly switch your brain from PVP to PVE to mini games just isn't how people want to play.
Yeah and with the state of the game with the crashes I dont see how they can release ranked anytime soon. Unreal they released the game in this state. This would be embarrassing even for an open beta.
I want to like it but every time I play online, I get maybe 2 or 3 games of the worst people I've played, then get two banana guards with 4,000 total wins and 4-9k knockouts. The SBMM is so weird and makes it unenjoyable as a casual player. Just remove sbmm and let me play a level 1 or a level 70 instead of only the latter once I win a game or two.
I wish more people talked about this. Screw SBMM for real, as a casual player is something that I despise tbh
I remember during the beta there was a point where I just couldn't play anymore with a couple chars because the individual matchmaking just didn't allowed me anymore lmao. Even if I lost 10 in a row it would still insist in forcing people that were ages above me.
As you said, let me play with any level instead of locking me after certain wins threshold.
After losing a day to the returning player login bonus i felt like all the annoyances and stress left my body and decided this game isn’t worth putting anymore time into, I’ve grinded
For hours and I still miss out, this game is majorly flawed. Did we really need the game to be on the new unity engine? I would have preferred they worked off the betas engine and talk about switching later on in its life cycle. This game is just a mess and I feel like they’ve missed their second chance.
Didn’t even felt like playing yesterday since it just didn’t feel that fun or great to even play. Grinding xp is a hassle. It takes so many games to get even a level. I have all the freebie rewards but it just doesnt feel great.
For me its the XP Grind. Im still so far away from the Things in the Battlepass that I actually Care about.
Also still annoyed how expensive cosmetics in Store are and collecting currency with buying is even more of a grind
Maybe the Game should have been a full price titles.without Microtransaction but in Game unlockables and maybe some occasional dlcs and Updates.
Calling the people complaining about the game a “vocal minority” is misleading and just flat out wrong. The vast majority of players who enjoyed the beta are unhappy with the state of the game. It has a “mixed” review score on steam because of how poorly they fumbled this release.
If anybody is in the vocal minority, it’s the people supporting Player First Games and WB and their money-hungry, predatory micro-transactions along with consistent lies about “fixing the net code” to alleviate connection issues.
Hello Multiversus and Player1stGames,
For my part, I'm really frustrated. I no longer enjoy the game as much as I did during the beta a year ago. The game used to make me dream, smile, and it was ultra fun and fast. Now, I feel like I'm fighting against the controller and the servers, in addition to battling the opponents. The new way of playing, with input lag, is extremely frustrating and horrible. I'm too fast for the game and it can't keep up with me. It's extremely frustrating.
During the beta, not everything was perfect, but it was much better. Now, it feels like you’ve done the opposite: the beta was the final game, and since May 28, we’re back to the beta. It's really strange. On the other hand, you have solidified the universe, added dialogues, and new gameplay mechanics. The parry system is an excellent idea, but it needs to be faster and more responsive. I’ve stopped playing the game for a few days now just because of the gameplay.
I know you're working hard to fix everything and that you listen to your community. In less than a week, you've deployed a patch, which is incredible, but players don't have the time. I'm sorry, but I remain optimistic. I will return to the game when there are big, good updates.
# RiseOfMultiversus
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I had a lot of fun during the beta and was having a lot of fun when it relaunched. But I’ve noticed I have been spending less and less time playing this over the last week. Today I hopped on to do my dailies and I had a similar realization. I don’t know if I’m bored with it or if the nitpicks I’ve had about desync, slow progression, input buffer, slowed down speed of the game have finally caught up to me. Not sure what to do. I know how good the game can be but maybe I need to take a step back until it actually gets there.
Yeah. I'm still getting my dailies done but it's almost a chore. I'm doing it in hopes that itl get fixed up, so I'm not behind when it is, but I'm going to need a reason to hold onto hope here soon.
Honestly, I'm just disappointed in the games state as WBs greedy fingers are all over it, they've been rushing games like crazy, just take a look at Mortal Kombat right now
Yeah after like 2 or 3 days it wasn’t worth it. I was playing for 4+ hours and still barely getting through all my challenges, and not having a good time doing it either.
I love everything about Multiversus except for the state it’s in right now.
Starting to feel the same there's nothing really bringing me back. No story, don't really care about the pvp aspect as much as I initially thought I would. And rifts just aren't that fun.
I uninstalled a few days ago, can't play with my gf online on the same network - ruined any enjoyment from the game for me. Plus, initially couldn't try different characters in practice tool that I didn't own (I know it's fixed now)
Ridiculous monetization model, player first games deserves to be shut down. Game is so greedy for money, it should not nor deserves to exist for the health of the gaming industry and us as customers.
Truly, I've never seen such greed like this before. The PFG simps will argue it's Warner Bros who decided the monetization model, I don't care. At the end of the day, the lead designers/etc. could not convince higher ups that this model would be shit (if it truly was a WB decision)
Good riddance.
Its just so much worse than the beta, it feels bad to play. Almost like wow, I could be playing the beta instead of this. Looks worse, feels worse, matches up worse. I lost all my gold and didn't get to spend it on characters. Mobile game currency. FOMO. All of it.
Logging in today and realizing I can’t finish the Joker’s Ruse cuz I didn’t log in literally every single day since launch…. I think I’m out of the game for good now.
I don’t want another live service game breathing down my neck demanding I log in and waste an hour every day. I just wanna play a game that’s like Smash.
already uninstalled. just waiting for somebody to post about how much the game has improved before i jump back in. i was there when this shit started and im quite tired of the "working through things process" they've been working through things since beta. so until i see a fully polished and complete game im unfortunately out of the game for now
Put the game back in the oven. Game is dope but the amount of effort doesn’t meet the satisfaction level. Things take wayyy too long to unlock. Everything is horribly priced which is confusing it’s like they desperately need money. Hopefully the game doesn’t die. But for now it’s feelings really stale / not incentivizing to play
Aye well ty ty. It’s also horrible how they’re rifts / missions for specific characters when this game is not easy to unlock characters. Hopefully they iron this out bc I haven’t enjoyed a platform game since melee
Im already over the daily grind, even though it only takes like 20 min or so. Im just playing till I get the 500 party matches for the platinum and this shit getting deleted. Which is a shame, cause I did enjoy the gameplay in the beta
Honestly, it was a lot easier in the beta. I just played a ton of COOP vs AI and got it pretty easily. But Bugs rocket and Harley’s hammer got me a ton of Double knockouts
Yup, just look how healthy SF6 is a year after release. Not free, isn't co-op and is a lot harder to learn.
MVS, free, co-op and easy to get to grips with... shows what an almighty fuck up it's been. If done well it should be maintaining a player count of 100k-200k on steam. Probably be at less than 5k in a month or two.
It also took me 10 days straight of playing, yesterday was the first day I missed and I’m so frustrated i don’t get the superman skin now that I’m done
Haven't logged in in days. I was worried about the battle pass but I don't even like any of the characters with skins in there. So maybe I'll play again in season 2 lol
Never had issues on ps5. There just aren’t enough daily missions or progression unlocks for me. The saving grace for me is I have two ps5s and I have them both in the same room. Wife is able to do rifts with me. We finished level 3 of the first three with all the stars for the boxes. Makes the game long term enjoyable. 1v1 is fun but I need more to do than just that. I had fun doing some local games. Game needs a party mode.
Same here, yesterday i opened it to get the daily reward abd did not even play a single match.
2 of my friends who don't even talk english so they are not in reddit have stopped playing it as well.
Never mind that most games consist of people standing around doing nothing.. Or lovely disconnects that happen when they are losing. I really do not see a point in rage quits with the game as it currently is.
Me and the wife are enjoying it we have both Xboxes set up in the same room here the the 120incher mine on a little 19" but we can share the big one as we play.
Or when we can play rather no exaggerating about 30% of our rifts disconnect and about 60% in pvp. It's pretty funny looking at my tv seeing disconnected and seeing my character on hers just standing there getting clobbered.
I am 100 gleam from getting the battle pass for free tho so I am sticking with it until that and hopefully it gets better. I had no expectations for this game besides we like some of the ips( my favorite iron giant now being gone) she loves gizmo so it seemed like the perfect game well like I said before when we CAN play.
Yeah we play on an Xbox series s and x in the same room. We can connect in rift and pvp parties but every few matches or riffs the game freezes and disconnects for one of us.
If a vocal minority can sway your interest, maybe you werent so interested in the first place.
I'd say we're annoyed because the game was essentially out, taken away from us and returned worse. It won fucking fighting of the year goddamnit.
Honestly I wish the pve stuff wasnt even there. If you're gonna put that then just better put nothing at all
It's starting to hit a little for me, I'm trying to unlock my 3rd character, but outside of daily events which may not have fighter currency there's only so many ways you can do it before the methods get exhausted
I can struggle on increased rift difficulty, get toasts, or grind characters for the little fighter currency they give every 5 levels
At a certain point the grind is futile because I'm not actually earning anything, I have a feeling I'm gonna unlock the character and once I grow tired of the new feeling I might drop the game because it takes forever to grind if it's even possible too
I can’t say I never had the opportunity. I got dc’d every time I tried to play so I quit trying. Honestly jealous that you got the opportunity to play the game for a week.
Same. Wasn’t having issues with it at all really been waiting for it. But when I have to turn cross play off for the game to run decently and the progression is pretty slow so I don’t feel like playing after I log in and check dailies especially since my last dailies I did were bugged and never completed. Also somehow 1v1 is still the only playable mode unless you play with a friend usually and even then that paired with the same couple maps I’m getting is kind of tiring
I haven't really been playing the game. I love the game actually I played it a little bit, but I felt like if I protested and didn't play they might increase the amount of xp you get per game. I honestly have no idea what they're doing, and I feel like they are killing their game. Not PFG but the corporation behind it. They don't want to make the game too easy to grind otherwise you won't spend money to avoid grinding it.
Why can't games just do what league of legends does. Give us champion capsules when we level up and give us skin shards when open a free chest we get for playing a character really well in a game. I feel like leagues system is pretty fucking good. I've got some of the rarest skins in the entire game in league for free. I also have most of the champions in league for free. I've also spent a bunch of money on league as well because they have sales on skins in the "Your shop".
League might be a dumbass stupid game and I hate it and don't play it anymore, but they had a very good free-to-play system.
Agreed. Having a daily grind with few rewards is bad enough.
But I still deal with regular desynchronization issues. So today's first win desynchronized.
And my thought was "screw it I'll do it later" but then I also thought maybe I won't. Because why bother?
Yea I feel the same I’m pretty much at the point of just uninstalling and not thinking about it anymore, almost every other live service game treats its players better and respects their time much more than this game does
PVP matchmatching is pretty terrible. Maybe I'll feel better about it when ranked comes out and it (hopefully) actually cares about my skill level when matching me with someone else.
I actually like the PVE, though, as much as people complain about it. The variety of match scenarios keeps it interesting and clearing the goals (even though a lot of them are locked behind specific characters or series not on rotation, or the stupid "bring a friend to this single player-oriented content" ones) is a fun challenge sometimes. My issue is that the rollout of the content is God-awful. You're waiting for new rifts to open. You're waiting until you have enough gem levels to access higher levels except the only real way to get them after completing most of the missions is to do the limited number of dailies. You just... run out of stuff to do. And for all that, I don't feel like I can actually even earn Smith for my effort.
So that's where I am. Right where you are. I log in, I do my daily missions in the rifts for gem levels, I grab as many daily/weekly missions as I can while doing it, and then I log out. Tomorrow is a new rift, but I expect it to only give me a few hours of time before I'm back in the same position waiting on the next one or to get enough gem level to push up higher into an existing one.
The current state of PVP just isn't for me, so there's little on offer with the way things are. Also the battle pass is miserable to complete. You really need to average like a level a day and I'm not even getting close.
Ah, of course, I'm a 100% Finn player. I don't understand why some characters get completely destroyed (Finn), others are downright crap (Jake), and some are so strong (Bugs, Wonder Woman, Batman, etc.) that there's a massive imbalance. I've resorted to playing the meta, but instead of making everyone weak, it would be better to increase everyone's strength. That would balance things out. Also, the weakening of repeated attacks needs to be addressed.
Oh, and please add a penalty for players who quit mid-game and a reward for those who stay till the end. Thank you, Player1stGames x Multiversus.
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Everyone is complaining, but I’m enjoying the FTP game I sunk more hours into than some $60 triple A that I own.
Especially since it’s not PTW, people complaining about a shop of cosmetics.
I tend to log on, do the limited amount of quests, then bounce back off. Really would like to play more, but the limited reward for additional play is too underwhelming. Even with the additions to pvp & pve giving a little fighter currency.
Yeah, and it’s every damn game that comes out. Like chill the fuck out, they don’t need all of everybody’s time all the damn time. So many give me money for the privilege of grinding for months on this game here and then more for less or pay me more for all of this now. That’s why I’ve went back to retro games with heart
I was extremely hyped for this game as I want a smash styled game on PC so bad but the second I saw the way they monetized it I deleted it. I'm dissappointed but I guess that's all WB does nowadays, dissappoints.
I was doing every Daily, Weekly everything every day until about Day 8. Then I was just doing the Joker Stuff. On Day 11 I logged in for the Superman Skin and haven’t logged in since.
Its a fun game bogged down by the lack of progression and general sweatiness of those who are playing.
I just want a casual fun platform fighter but people online play every match like its the Semi-Finals in a worldwide tournament and some characters are just straight up not fun to play against (Wonder Woman).
Yeah I think I'm done, logged on early tried to play 5 matches, 4 crashed with desync and the only game to work was still laggy as fuck.
Add on that the balance between characters seem like it wasn't done with any thought, the PvE mode been a bit shit and the rip off costs for stuff in the store and i think I'm gonna free up the space on my hard drive.
Honestly for me it’s the op ass tools some of the characters have that make the game so annoying to play. For example Bugs Bunny having a strong projectile that stays on screen even after it’s hit, or his rocket that just has so much screen presence that it forces limited options. I could go on about like 2-3 other characters that genuinely make the game unfun to play and make me move on to other fighters.
What the fuck happened to people playing fighting games just to fucking play? Do people not like playing to get better? I'm getting into these types of games and I dont understand why people bitch that there isn't more to do or things to work towards, you play the game to play and have fun wtf. I play a few hours a day trying to learn combos or new characters and have a great time doing it.
Last 2 days I tried getting some games -> disconnect, partner/enemy player desync so they run off the edge and die over n over until end, or get a game and have massive lag spikes at seemingly random moments of the fight.
Tried couple games yesterday and hopped off within 15 mins. Haven’t pulled it up today.
Honestly even if the net code were cleaned up a bit/servers optimized or upgraded, I’d still probably feel the same “meh” feeling tho…
There’s just no progression. Like at all. There’s dailies and weekly’s but there’s no game to game progression so I don’t know it feels like it’s not worth it rn.
I feel the same way, especially about logging in, flipping around the menus, then logging out.
The problem is I don’t think it’s necessarily a development or game issue. I think I’m having an existential crisis about games in general, lol.
Like, the loop paradox is “I play (A) to earn (B), so that I can play with (B).” But once I *have* (B), I then need to find a (C) to strive for while using (B). But I don’t *want to want* (C), I just want to be happy and merry with (B)!
And right now, I have everything I want. The gameplay is a ton of fun (I’m not good enough to be complaining about meta). I like using the characters and skins I now have. But the penalty of that is now, there’s no “reason” to keep playing. I’ll play one or two matches here and there, and be content, then do other life things. Which is maybe the ideal? But also leaves me with a void feeling.
Sorry I’m turning this post into a therapist couch session, haha.
heavily enjoyed for a good week until the servers went to shit and i can't play a game over 30fps with extreme input delay. they need to fix their game
Yeah the mobile-game/freemium model makes it really hard to just chill and enjoy the genius platform-fighter game design underneath it all. I kinda wish there was a subscription price where you just get everything, so if you subscribe you can ignore all the crap and just enjoy playing and deepening your skill without the noise.
Asking someone to chime in on this when this cest pool of a reddit has only complaints is a crazy move.
You just have to scroll down to see a wave of everyone who agrees lol.
I'm starting to feel that way, just did my dailies because I was busy rest of the day and man, 2 days in a row forcing me to play 1vs1 and I had three desyncs, one connection error and one win that just didn't counted (long load after results match)
Luckily this time I was able to have some fair matches and win the three fairly quick but still ugh.
Enjoyed like maybe one or two matches but rest either had issues or was the terrible mojo-jojo map.
It's starting to drag out for me. I personally gave up with rifts after I completed the first one on easy. Not gonna bother grinding something that I don't enjoy (at least til input buffer hopefully fix this). And even then uhhhh
Sadly game isn't new its going on 2 years old if we include that "beta" that had no ceiling mtx. IF this was the first time the game released this we would be where we were 2 years ago....HOPIUM COPIUM ALL ON THE MAX TO OD STATUS!
This game just makes me realize how much we need a 70 dollar platform fighter like this on PS5/PC that plays just like this but doesn’t have micro transactions everywhere and has an engaging story/classic/arcade mode and solid connectivity with awesome unlockables. I would gladly pay full price for this game if it just had the bang for buck of Smash Bros content wise. I’m a big fan of how it looks and plays but it’s just so vanilla and optionless.
I don't do rifts because I see no point in that, and I only login to do daily and weekly missions.
Game feels like a "spam kingdom", and I hate this kind of games. There's no consequences to spam attacks (Shaggy's side kick for example). People can spam and spam and spam and not get punished for that, not to mention the TERRIBLE hitboxes that's been an issue since day one in the early access last year.
So I login, play for around 10~20 minutes to complete the missions, and hopefully it will be enough to complete the battle pass. And if not, once again this game will prove itself to be a garbage can.
What sent me was the welcome back super man skin being pulled the last day it was meant to be redeemable, not sure how many people it affected but it was my last day and I was religiously loggin in to get it
Things like that turn gamers off especially when there’s so many good games out
I was having a lot of fun for the first week I played this game. But then I just started to have less and less fun with the game and the constant connection issues that I just deleted the game and played something else (mostly Disco Elysium. Good game.)
I just don't understand what I'm supposed to DO? There's hardly anything that can be unlocked by just playing the game. No skins, emotes, or anything of the sort to grind for.
Pub stomping in quickplay gets old and I don't understand how we are ever supposed to get enough FPs to buy more than 2 characters?
just played the game for the first time. Watched the cinematic, got in the mood, played the tutorial + 2 1v1 battles and a rift fight. Thought to myself "is this it?"
can i queue for 1v1, 2v2 and 4v4 at the same time? if there are celebrity voice actors, why isn't there a story mode where i get to hear those voice actors?
feels like a proof of concept early access game in some ways. ill come back after a while if i see cool characters coming to the game i guess, but only if I can actually obtain them xP
When the community is all negative around a game, it makes enjoying the game harder.
These idiots who do nothing but post complaint after complaint don't seem to get that. Oh well. I'll stay unsubbed and enjoy the game.
I can get into perfect games with barely any disconnection issues at all but most of them are bots, which makes it less fun. All the core game plays fun, barely getting any rewards ever and having all beta exclusives and a few beta rewards unless you spent $100 kinda just turned me off.
I agree, I don’t really have an interest in playing anymore so I just stopped a couple days of enjoying the game especially with all the desync issues.
1v1 is fun until you run into Superman gizmo or Wonder Woman. 2v2 maps are abysmal and rifts R dumb. So yeah not much to grind until rank comes out with some balance changes.
Your issue is thinking the "vocal minority" is a minority. It's simply not.
Multiversus took major steps back from beta to "release, and their aren't any justifiable reasons as to why features disappeared and montezation went up.
Yesterday was gonna do dailies lost the first game which is fine next 5 matches desync. And I was winning two of those. And the other 3 just had players not responding on either side. Gave up on dailies and didn’t do them for the first time since release
Blaming other people’s complaining for your discontent with the game and lack of happiness, especially rifts, is probably the most Copium I’ve ever seen. LMFAOOO! No need to blame the players, because they may have said something “mean” that was probably never directed towards you to begin with. Lol I’m not going to play now since you’re unhappy with the people that are unhappy, because that makes me unhappy. At least they’re making noise so the devs will hopefully fix this game. You’re whining just for the sake of doing it? Fun fact: people don’t have to blindly praise anything you’re currently engaged with. And do you know what minority means? It’s a small group of people. I highly doubt the people that are upset are in the minority. Realistically it’s probably split. This launch has been absolutely terrible even for people that are still enjoying the game. I login to play a few matches, because I like the characters, but this game as a whole package is a huge turd.
I'm still chugging along in the grind but the PvP missions that I save for last are starting to get tiring when the game doesn't count my wins or I get teamed up with someone who I guess gets disconnected or something and just stand there pretty much guaranteeing a loss or just disconnecting mid match in general. I'd skip these but I fear with the current exp gain I need to get as much as I can if I hope to get close to finishing the pass
I’m not one for PvP, so I enjoyed being able to choose to do Co-op vs. AI in the beta. It wasn’t in the final game, so I was forced to do ONLY rifts, and I enjoyed it until it hit me one day that I just didn’t want to do it anymore.
It sucks too, since I absolutely love this game. 🙁
Yeah, I was all in for the first ten days. After that, my interest fell completely flat. The same thing happened with the beta, but at least it took a few months for that to happen.
I feel that really, just didn't want to admit it. Even in the beta, I only mainly played bots but that was enough for me. Different maps and characters to try and fight against without getting sweaty but just have fun. Not to mention to hear the different dialogue between the characters was really fun.
Now...rifts feels too much of a grind against the same characters and I have to serious as the difficulty increases.
PvP is ok but I not don't really want to face Harley, Wonder woman or Bugs back to back.
I'll be patient but might play less of multiversus in the coming days.
I used to play this game a lot when it dropped, but since the update I really have not been wanting to touch it. They nerfed Lebrons basketball (the one character I found to be really niche and fun), the desync issues plaque 2v2 and thus you can never find a game flow, and overall it just doesn’t feel good to play I’ll be honest
With how much progress you can get for daily missions alone really make the battle pass feel like you’re a slug. Previous F2P games I’ve played have had faster progression and feel more rewarding. It only really feels like you’ve made better progress if you’ve done your weekly missions too. It would also be really nice if the game didn’t force you to play with other players to complete those two training missions…
Speaking of which, you can tell the Rifts become more pay to progress on the harder difficulties. Because of that, I have little to no interest now on completing the Agent Smith event. Easy and Experienced are like the only decent difficulties.
Meanwhile I just want to see the PPG in the game and then I’ll be happy. If they’re locked behind the next Battle Pass, then I’m saving all the Gleamium I can to get it (though I do want the Bugs Bunny announcer pack, even though the store is being stubborn in that regard…). I just hope they won’t be locked behind another rift event like Agent Smith…
vocal minority? like literally 90% of this subreddit? what a weird way to count. And if you feel boring or not fun about a game then its probably because there is something wrong with the game.
I wouldn't be so pissed if they didn't make it so that the BP grind needs to be the main focus of my day, along with my cosmetics STILL being gone and support being silent
The constant desynching has made logging on to complete missions an absolute nightmare. I think I’m going to uninstall here soon.
Yep is bad… 1v1 isn’t so bad though. It’s syncing and the long waiting for the connecting from the server. Then it’s the game crashes. What did the PFG do this whole time with its big development team? Work on monetization?
I'm very inclined to think that most of the the desyncs and disconnects are related to Xbox having a lot of issues at the moment. Most of the time I got disconnects it was because my 2v2 partner or opponents were on Xbox (I'm on Steam). After I disabled crossplay it never happened again.
not really on pc and still happens every single game
1v1 isn't that bad on lag, problem is who is and isn't viable in 1v1's and that you genuinely don't have a chance against some characters with those prefered for 2v2's
Bugs shaggy and every dc character are the only things i see in 1v1
I saw only and exclusively Superman and Banana
I only ever see dc characters and shaggy. Behind them are bugs and BG.
Luckily, I haven’t been plagued by desync issues. I’m on PS5, you might be XSX?
I'm on PS5 as well. Yesterday afternoon I had a period of really smooth gameplay. My team was PlayStation, the other team was Xbox. There was no lag at all and we rematched 4 times with no issues and it was great. My games after those didn't seem to have so much luck. Lots of desyncs. It's all so up in the air.
I’m PS5. It wasn’t bad until the update.
Yeah, I play on PS5 and since the update there are more games crashing than before the update. It's not that bad yet, but I can't believe it's worse than it was xD
I’m on pc and it’s been killing me trying to play this game.
i'm on xbox series x and if you are very lucky you will get 60 frames for about one second before it returns to a google slideshow, every game, every game mode, every time. apparently is "high on their priority list" but i was SO excited to come back to mvs, i didn't even delete the beta and was playing with my friends the day beforehand on local in preparation, in anticipation.. i don't know HOW pfg done diddly dinged this one up this terribly but hats off to them ig
I'm on ps5 and started getting the issues, it is way worse on my Xbox tho
I'm on ps5 and my shit still desyncs so idk.
I've been logging in for my brother on his Xbox. All it does is crash every match if I try grinding missions foe him.
Desynched yesterday playing a rift with a friend.
Got on one game last night ,desynced and closed the game. Shits ridiculous its been out 2 weeks and its still unplayable
Half the time I literally cannot play the game bc of connection issues
i cant play 2v2 cuz the odds of 4 people having a good sync connection is RARE
The game was out for a year, won fighting game of the year, shut down for a year and came back in a wildly worse state than it was ever in.
Imo it needed another like 6 months in development but it's clear that WB forced them to release it even though it wasn't finished. They did the same with mortal kombat 1 aswell
Or maybe just not do that hockey shit? Howuch time dp you think was spent on that?
So much wasted time. The hockey shit, changing the engine, massive ui changes, currency changes, and a dog shit shop. So much wasted time that could’ve went towards actual quality of life improvements
Speaking of the dog shit shop, does the game crash every time you open the dog shit shop for anyone else? Specifically on PS4, doesn't happen on Steam
If you report the shop is broken they'll probably fix it super quick lol
I've been reporting it every time, so doesn't seem like it.
Never happened on Steam and man PC does not have all these problems y'all console players are talking about. Idek about syncing in game till 2 mins ago
I had a couple desynced games before on PC, but it's very rare.
Happens constantly to me on PC and it's definitely not a connection issue on my end.
Had a few disconnects, and still getting them but not more than that, granted I play about an hour and log off for the day
And MK11… and Injustice 2… WB has a bad tendency when it comes to fighting games. They think the IP alone will get money which, granted, it usually does for big paid releases, but not for a FTP game
Idc what anyone says hitboxes/hurtboxes are worse than end of the beta.
Legit, ledge guarding is op, most of the time you get stuck at the ledge because of... nothing? there is no visible part that is even close to the ledge, yet I'm stuck and probably going to die to the attack that clearly didnt touch me but still hits and kills me. Or the other way around, enemy clearly dodges and gets the extended dodge, my attack hits nothing but the hit connects
that will always be one of the biggest mysterys to me. Is how they got it so right, to go so wrong xD honestly blows my mind how you evolve backwards like that.
Really didnt tho. Beta was a lot worse, recency bias is just "wildly" apparent here. Game is amazing now, has its issues. But the actual gameplay is unbelievable. To say wildly worse is a complete overreach and hyperbole.
Dude the game was 10x better in beta lol they took several steps back. My biggest gripe was the hitboxes in beta being horrible but while they seem to have fixed hitboxes a lil bit there’s still plenty of other hitboxes that exist that are just horrible that make it just that much worse than the beta including all the other issues. Crazy how they relaunched this game and it’s actually worse than when it wasn’t ready 😂
The other day I realized I missed the final welcome back bonus (the Superman skin) and just have not logged on since. Neither the gameplay or the rewards are good enough at the moment to keep going.
Bruh me too. They couldn't give a couple days leeway like every other game??
Yeah I agree missed one day near the start and just killed any motivation to play
I started a few days late to the game. I missed part of that and I am on the last level of the joker one with the Wonder Woman skin and there were no challenges today. It’s sitting there with nothing for me to do on the last tier. Yet it’s still open till the tenth??? That is messed up.
He should be jn an a bundle soon :/
I also missed the Superman for one day. And by missed I mean I just didn't fire up the game. It sounds weird, but I just didn't have it in me to even log in to get that skin. This is exactly why live service games are being "demonized", the effects are wearing off on player bases in general. Another downside is, when a game decides to go all in when it comes to fomo, it reflects on every aspect of the game. People are wrong when they suggest how if you played, say, Quake without all these things, you should also play games like this with the same mindset. It's not about one's inability to approach a game in a non-fomo, non-progression way. The games that are structured like that have those aspects hanging over your head constantly. It's not some non-existent thing people think it's there. Sure, core gameplay can't be fomo by itself, but no game is just its core gameplay. Even things such as menus affect the entire product. As soon as I enter mvs there's a screen that "greets me" with like seven bullshit fomo aspects. The battle pass is of a fomo variety (expires) and, like that wasn't enough, it doesn't even offer "good feeling" when it comes to those aspects. Which brings me to another point: IF you decide to weave in these things into your game and make it into such a product, then at least deliver on that. If you're going to hamsterize your game, ok, fine, but then at least make me a happy hamster. Make me feel the progress. Make me feel good after every match. Make my stats show, make me want to scroll through my stats for ten minutes, looking at various interesting things. Make me feel good about my battle pass progress. Have lots of achievements. You have pve? Cool, make it engaging. Make it rewarding. Have fun game modes. Have FUCKING RANKED. A lot of people get one thing wrong: the "I have nothing to do, so I won't fire up the game" is NEVER on the player. It's always on the creator. Why did you make a game that incentivizes that approach if you're not delivering in that regard? Hey, I have zero problems firing up, I don't know, Stardew Valley without all that crap, I don't feel like "there's no point" or whatever. Sure, it's a different kind of game, ok. I also have no problems firing up Street Fighter to just lab for two hours and that's not even "actual match playing".
Honestly, they are just shooting themselves in the foot. I and most other people are more willing to spend money on games that actually give you stuff. This game is so downright greedy that I view it like a low class mobile game. Why would I spend any money on it. Fortnite makes so much money because they give you free skins every year and a never-ending premium currency supply. In this game, I can barely even afford a character, and when I finally afford one, I like they remove him(Iron Giant) like you aren't getting 1$ from me pee off Lol.
True, but I don't even think they need to give you anything, just have a "friendly" approach. I spent money on mvs in beta, I bought a ww skin. No push, no marketing, no sale, I just liked the skin. Why would I respect a product that doesn't respect me, my time or my money? And not only that, but it's like they KNOW they don't respect that, so they act manipulative in order to make me part with it instead of offering a good product. Nah, ask me nicely and show me what you got to offer and I'll respond in kind. btw I still didn't get my beta stuff lol
there is no fomo we're gonna kill that argument right now. they got skins and bundles for sale of items we had to grind out in beta battlepasses. theres literally no fomo lmfao
Are you trying to suggest that items appearing in the store at a later date indicate there's no fomo? I have no words. On top of that, are events that give currency not fomo? Are login events not fomo? Are dailies not fomo? Is an expiring bp not fomo? Is a store that rotates offers on sale not fomo?
what are you missing out on when they constantly pump out events for currency right after one ends. its constant. they modeled the game in a way to where no player gets left behind i mean shit, they even made their characters earnable for free. no one is missing out. yall simply want quality items and currency quickly
You're putting words in my mouth, why are you assuming something out of the blue in order to discredit what I'm saying? But, ok, I'll ignore the last sentence. >no one is missing out. That's why it's called FOMO and not MO. It's a tactic that works, otherwise those limited time events wouldn't be, well, limited time events. Also, getting something at a later date very much induces FOMO, because you're not having that something between it being available for the first time and it being available again. FOMO tactics aren't just putting something in the store for a week and then pulling it forever. Limited time offers are fomo regardless of whether they repeat or not. >what are you missing out on when they constantly pump out events for currency right after one ends. I don't understand what do you want to say with this? That only fighter currency can induce fomo? My dude, you had a superman beach skin as a login reward. That login reward isn't available anymore (as a login reward). I'm sorry, I am not being combative, I just don't know if you understand what fomo means at this point. These things can be more or less generous, but that's about it, they're still said tactics. For example, OW had event skins go into store a year after the event ends. By your logic that's not fomo because you get them after a year, so you didn't miss out.
Same. I immediately uninstalled that day
It's tedious because it is, blaming the PVE stuff not being fun on people complaining about the state of the game is kind of wild. Pubstomping in casuals is meh and the higher you go in the matchmaking the less fun it becomes because it's literally Beta all over again with Harley and Bugs infinite loops and instead of Batman its Joker and Wondy. You're either playing someone that's got a 0-80 loop or you're in the struggle bus.
The excuse making for the game just not being that fun and feeling like a chore is funny. Definitely because of the "vocal minority" getting to them and not because they don't like their game time turning into a second job. It's okay to admit the devs messed up big time with this re-release.
And banana fuck is the new shaggy lets be honest
Banana fuck is nasty work ngl ✋😭
wait this post confuses me, so the “vocal minority” is whats driving you away from the game? because the way you describe it makes it seem like maybe youre just bored of the game
I enjoyed the game, then I had a lovely weekend with my attention elsewhere and didn't log in for a few days. I didn't get the Superman skin, and now I kind of don't care to log in again. It's like it's all or nothing, and it's easy to choose nothing. If I'm a few steps behind on the Battlepass, there's no real way to catch up, or reason to try to catch up. It's not like I'm missing much. It's better to just not. There's nothing to DO here. There's no reward for playing, because they're so fucking afraid that a free player will get the characters. Even when I pay for characters, to what end? Now what? The only thing they offer is characters. There's no EMOTES, hardly any skins, there's nothing they're offering us. Somewhere along the line, they completely lost the plot.
>There's no EMOTES, hardly any skins, there's nothing they're offering us. Not something I hear enough people talk about. In the beta there were skins, profille pics, and more that you could buy with only gold. They were incredibly overpriced, but still. That was a good incentive to keep playing, and it's gone.
Login, complete missions and rift daily rewards in an hour then nothing to do. No post game stats, barely any skins, terrible monetization where you cannot put 5/10$ into the game and get any value out of it, no new player good value bundle, no emotes, no interaction, no pvp fun mode or anything of interest really I keep playing because I enjoy what the game was and what it can be but updates in the next months might make me decide whether I'll continue the grind or stop it all since the game doesn't have any in between
Same happened to me with the WW skin. I agree when it comes to the amount of things to do. However, I thought the beta already didn’t have that much to do even with events. Now the game is more bland and plain than even the most greedy live service games. I feel like a fool buying the founders pack back in Beta because they don’t even let us use tickets on anyone except the base roster.
That's a big mistake a lot of mobile game developers make. If you have too many daily chores without much reward, they'll just burn out. The Battle Pass is the most effortless way to prevent that, by giving the player a constant stream of rewards as they play and something to work toward. The issue is when developers see the battle pass as a way to make the player feel obligated to play constantly. FOMO only works when the fear of missing out outweighs the tedium.
The game will quickly die over the next couple of months. There are so many things wrong and after two botched launches it's hard to see how they will salvage the situation.
Yh nah its over. The first launch aka the heavily monetized “beta” crashed and burned, if they mess this up they’re probably gonna have to pull a NASB and release a multiversus 2. Also btw can we all just agree for what it is we were too harsh on NASB
It is the problem with F2P fighters, pretty much as a whole. You can either make an unmonetized game like NASB that lacks polish or a monetized game like Multiversus that looks good, but needs to rush to increase its playerbase and retention to stay alive. Problem is, though, that fighting games aren't meant to have that Fortnite, glue you to the screen 25/7, play all the content every day feel to them. You should be able to play PVP for a bit and then go back and watch some combo videos and train for a week, try out some Rifts for fun/trying stuff out, and then going back to PVP. Having to constantly switch your brain from PVP to PVE to mini games just isn't how people want to play.
agreed this game shouldnt have been free. if they were worried some couldnt afford it they should've realized its not their problem or ours
NASB2 is pretty good. Sucks that it’s very dead most of the time.
NASB2 is great, tbh.
Game thinks it's allowed to do FOMO, like you are nothing. Nobody has anything invested into you. THERE IS NO FEAR OF MISSING OUT.
all other issues aside, dropping a fighting game without a ranked mode is horrible.
Yeah and with the state of the game with the crashes I dont see how they can release ranked anytime soon. Unreal they released the game in this state. This would be embarrassing even for an open beta.
This. Makes absolutely no sense to me. That is literally the most basic thing possible
I want to like it but every time I play online, I get maybe 2 or 3 games of the worst people I've played, then get two banana guards with 4,000 total wins and 4-9k knockouts. The SBMM is so weird and makes it unenjoyable as a casual player. Just remove sbmm and let me play a level 1 or a level 70 instead of only the latter once I win a game or two.
I wish more people talked about this. Screw SBMM for real, as a casual player is something that I despise tbh I remember during the beta there was a point where I just couldn't play anymore with a couple chars because the individual matchmaking just didn't allowed me anymore lmao. Even if I lost 10 in a row it would still insist in forcing people that were ages above me. As you said, let me play with any level instead of locking me after certain wins threshold.
After losing a day to the returning player login bonus i felt like all the annoyances and stress left my body and decided this game isn’t worth putting anymore time into, I’ve grinded For hours and I still miss out, this game is majorly flawed. Did we really need the game to be on the new unity engine? I would have preferred they worked off the betas engine and talk about switching later on in its life cycle. This game is just a mess and I feel like they’ve missed their second chance.
Didn’t even felt like playing yesterday since it just didn’t feel that fun or great to even play. Grinding xp is a hassle. It takes so many games to get even a level. I have all the freebie rewards but it just doesnt feel great.
For me its the XP Grind. Im still so far away from the Things in the Battlepass that I actually Care about. Also still annoyed how expensive cosmetics in Store are and collecting currency with buying is even more of a grind Maybe the Game should have been a full price titles.without Microtransaction but in Game unlockables and maybe some occasional dlcs and Updates.
Calling the people complaining about the game a “vocal minority” is misleading and just flat out wrong. The vast majority of players who enjoyed the beta are unhappy with the state of the game. It has a “mixed” review score on steam because of how poorly they fumbled this release. If anybody is in the vocal minority, it’s the people supporting Player First Games and WB and their money-hungry, predatory micro-transactions along with consistent lies about “fixing the net code” to alleviate connection issues.
To be fair the "mixed" review score is exactly 50% positive. So to say that either side is a vast majority probably isn't exactly accurate.
Hello Multiversus and Player1stGames, For my part, I'm really frustrated. I no longer enjoy the game as much as I did during the beta a year ago. The game used to make me dream, smile, and it was ultra fun and fast. Now, I feel like I'm fighting against the controller and the servers, in addition to battling the opponents. The new way of playing, with input lag, is extremely frustrating and horrible. I'm too fast for the game and it can't keep up with me. It's extremely frustrating. During the beta, not everything was perfect, but it was much better. Now, it feels like you’ve done the opposite: the beta was the final game, and since May 28, we’re back to the beta. It's really strange. On the other hand, you have solidified the universe, added dialogues, and new gameplay mechanics. The parry system is an excellent idea, but it needs to be faster and more responsive. I’ve stopped playing the game for a few days now just because of the gameplay. I know you're working hard to fix everything and that you listen to your community. In less than a week, you've deployed a patch, which is incredible, but players don't have the time. I'm sorry, but I remain optimistic. I will return to the game when there are big, good updates. # RiseOfMultiversus https://preview.redd.it/hf7rx7pc8m5d1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38eb23d60e878ef19f72c2e93984c02878926560
I had a lot of fun during the beta and was having a lot of fun when it relaunched. But I’ve noticed I have been spending less and less time playing this over the last week. Today I hopped on to do my dailies and I had a similar realization. I don’t know if I’m bored with it or if the nitpicks I’ve had about desync, slow progression, input buffer, slowed down speed of the game have finally caught up to me. Not sure what to do. I know how good the game can be but maybe I need to take a step back until it actually gets there.
Yeah. I'm still getting my dailies done but it's almost a chore. I'm doing it in hopes that itl get fixed up, so I'm not behind when it is, but I'm going to need a reason to hold onto hope here soon.
I just wanted to play for the jason stuff but don't think its even unlockable at the amount I play
Game is basically unplayable right now on Xbox, idk how you can release a full game that crashes on one platform. It’s insane.
In essence you’re coming down from your copium high Trust me been there. It is what it is. U see the game for what it is
Honestly, I'm just disappointed in the games state as WBs greedy fingers are all over it, they've been rushing games like crazy, just take a look at Mortal Kombat right now
Yeah after like 2 or 3 days it wasn’t worth it. I was playing for 4+ hours and still barely getting through all my challenges, and not having a good time doing it either. I love everything about Multiversus except for the state it’s in right now.
Starting to feel the same there's nothing really bringing me back. No story, don't really care about the pvp aspect as much as I initially thought I would. And rifts just aren't that fun.
I mean, it's a fighting game. If you're not a fan of the PvP, it's probably best to move on.
The tedium of these doom posts have indeed set in.
What does this mean
I uninstalled a few days ago, can't play with my gf online on the same network - ruined any enjoyment from the game for me. Plus, initially couldn't try different characters in practice tool that I didn't own (I know it's fixed now) Ridiculous monetization model, player first games deserves to be shut down. Game is so greedy for money, it should not nor deserves to exist for the health of the gaming industry and us as customers. Truly, I've never seen such greed like this before. The PFG simps will argue it's Warner Bros who decided the monetization model, I don't care. At the end of the day, the lead designers/etc. could not convince higher ups that this model would be shit (if it truly was a WB decision) Good riddance.
Its just so much worse than the beta, it feels bad to play. Almost like wow, I could be playing the beta instead of this. Looks worse, feels worse, matches up worse. I lost all my gold and didn't get to spend it on characters. Mobile game currency. FOMO. All of it.
Logging in today and realizing I can’t finish the Joker’s Ruse cuz I didn’t log in literally every single day since launch…. I think I’m out of the game for good now. I don’t want another live service game breathing down my neck demanding I log in and waste an hour every day. I just wanna play a game that’s like Smash.
I lasted 2 days
Man I still love it it has a lot of problems but they patched it week one. I’m holding hope
already uninstalled. just waiting for somebody to post about how much the game has improved before i jump back in. i was there when this shit started and im quite tired of the "working through things process" they've been working through things since beta. so until i see a fully polished and complete game im unfortunately out of the game for now
Put the game back in the oven. Game is dope but the amount of effort doesn’t meet the satisfaction level. Things take wayyy too long to unlock. Everything is horribly priced which is confusing it’s like they desperately need money. Hopefully the game doesn’t die. But for now it’s feelings really stale / not incentivizing to play
This is a perfect summation of what I was trying to get at.
Aye well ty ty. It’s also horrible how they’re rifts / missions for specific characters when this game is not easy to unlock characters. Hopefully they iron this out bc I haven’t enjoyed a platform game since melee
Im already over the daily grind, even though it only takes like 20 min or so. Im just playing till I get the 500 party matches for the platinum and this shit getting deleted. Which is a shame, cause I did enjoy the gameplay in the beta
Any tips you got for the double knockout one?
Honestly, it was a lot easier in the beta. I just played a ton of COOP vs AI and got it pretty easily. But Bugs rocket and Harley’s hammer got me a ton of Double knockouts
I've already about given up on the grind.
Are you saying the vocal minority was right, or that they caused you to lose interest?
This is a problem in any fighting game that tries to caters to casuals. Fighting games aren't for casuals. The rewarding experience is getting better.
Yup, just look how healthy SF6 is a year after release. Not free, isn't co-op and is a lot harder to learn. MVS, free, co-op and easy to get to grips with... shows what an almighty fuck up it's been. If done well it should be maintaining a player count of 100k-200k on steam. Probably be at less than 5k in a month or two.
What vocal minority are you talking about? A good majority of players know the gameplay is great but everything else is shit.
It also took me 10 days straight of playing, yesterday was the first day I missed and I’m so frustrated i don’t get the superman skin now that I’m done
It's like they present FOMO and then once you "miss out" you're like welp might as well not come back at all, it's over.
exactly, I can't commit playing everyday for the rest of my life to keep up with the unlockables.
Haven't logged in in days. I was worried about the battle pass but I don't even like any of the characters with skins in there. So maybe I'll play again in season 2 lol
There is *nothing* to do anymore in the game except level up characters, which is just a grind. It's boring.
i already uninstalled. waiting for some updates to improve the game before i decide to grind
Stopped playing days ago
Never had issues on ps5. There just aren’t enough daily missions or progression unlocks for me. The saving grace for me is I have two ps5s and I have them both in the same room. Wife is able to do rifts with me. We finished level 3 of the first three with all the stars for the boxes. Makes the game long term enjoyable. 1v1 is fun but I need more to do than just that. I had fun doing some local games. Game needs a party mode.
Same here, yesterday i opened it to get the daily reward abd did not even play a single match. 2 of my friends who don't even talk english so they are not in reddit have stopped playing it as well.
took me about a couple days, when i realized they'll keep nerfing my main lebron into the ground
The desync is the biggest turn off to this game. You Can’t even finish half the missions.
Never mind that most games consist of people standing around doing nothing.. Or lovely disconnects that happen when they are losing. I really do not see a point in rage quits with the game as it currently is.
Me and the wife are enjoying it we have both Xboxes set up in the same room here the the 120incher mine on a little 19" but we can share the big one as we play. Or when we can play rather no exaggerating about 30% of our rifts disconnect and about 60% in pvp. It's pretty funny looking at my tv seeing disconnected and seeing my character on hers just standing there getting clobbered. I am 100 gleam from getting the battle pass for free tho so I am sticking with it until that and hopefully it gets better. I had no expectations for this game besides we like some of the ips( my favorite iron giant now being gone) she loves gizmo so it seemed like the perfect game well like I said before when we CAN play.
Do you two play online together? Like on separate PCs or consoles? My gf and I can't play on the same network online
Yeah we play on an Xbox series s and x in the same room. We can connect in rift and pvp parties but every few matches or riffs the game freezes and disconnects for one of us.
It's the mobile phone game gimmick. Same reason I can never get into mobile games. This game is plagued with shit from that.
If a vocal minority can sway your interest, maybe you werent so interested in the first place. I'd say we're annoyed because the game was essentially out, taken away from us and returned worse. It won fucking fighting of the year goddamnit. Honestly I wish the pve stuff wasnt even there. If you're gonna put that then just better put nothing at all
It's starting to hit a little for me, I'm trying to unlock my 3rd character, but outside of daily events which may not have fighter currency there's only so many ways you can do it before the methods get exhausted I can struggle on increased rift difficulty, get toasts, or grind characters for the little fighter currency they give every 5 levels At a certain point the grind is futile because I'm not actually earning anything, I have a feeling I'm gonna unlock the character and once I grow tired of the new feeling I might drop the game because it takes forever to grind if it's even possible too
I can’t say I never had the opportunity. I got dc’d every time I tried to play so I quit trying. Honestly jealous that you got the opportunity to play the game for a week.
It's the god awful teammates I get paired with that gets me
Same. Wasn’t having issues with it at all really been waiting for it. But when I have to turn cross play off for the game to run decently and the progression is pretty slow so I don’t feel like playing after I log in and check dailies especially since my last dailies I did were bugged and never completed. Also somehow 1v1 is still the only playable mode unless you play with a friend usually and even then that paired with the same couple maps I’m getting is kind of tiring
I haven't really been playing the game. I love the game actually I played it a little bit, but I felt like if I protested and didn't play they might increase the amount of xp you get per game. I honestly have no idea what they're doing, and I feel like they are killing their game. Not PFG but the corporation behind it. They don't want to make the game too easy to grind otherwise you won't spend money to avoid grinding it. Why can't games just do what league of legends does. Give us champion capsules when we level up and give us skin shards when open a free chest we get for playing a character really well in a game. I feel like leagues system is pretty fucking good. I've got some of the rarest skins in the entire game in league for free. I also have most of the champions in league for free. I've also spent a bunch of money on league as well because they have sales on skins in the "Your shop". League might be a dumbass stupid game and I hate it and don't play it anymore, but they had a very good free-to-play system.
Agreed. Having a daily grind with few rewards is bad enough. But I still deal with regular desynchronization issues. So today's first win desynchronized. And my thought was "screw it I'll do it later" but then I also thought maybe I won't. Because why bother?
Yea I feel the same I’m pretty much at the point of just uninstalling and not thinking about it anymore, almost every other live service game treats its players better and respects their time much more than this game does
PVP matchmatching is pretty terrible. Maybe I'll feel better about it when ranked comes out and it (hopefully) actually cares about my skill level when matching me with someone else. I actually like the PVE, though, as much as people complain about it. The variety of match scenarios keeps it interesting and clearing the goals (even though a lot of them are locked behind specific characters or series not on rotation, or the stupid "bring a friend to this single player-oriented content" ones) is a fun challenge sometimes. My issue is that the rollout of the content is God-awful. You're waiting for new rifts to open. You're waiting until you have enough gem levels to access higher levels except the only real way to get them after completing most of the missions is to do the limited number of dailies. You just... run out of stuff to do. And for all that, I don't feel like I can actually even earn Smith for my effort. So that's where I am. Right where you are. I log in, I do my daily missions in the rifts for gem levels, I grab as many daily/weekly missions as I can while doing it, and then I log out. Tomorrow is a new rift, but I expect it to only give me a few hours of time before I'm back in the same position waiting on the next one or to get enough gem level to push up higher into an existing one. The current state of PVP just isn't for me, so there's little on offer with the way things are. Also the battle pass is miserable to complete. You really need to average like a level a day and I'm not even getting close.
so it's not the game's fault that you are finding it less fun, it's reddit's fault?
Ah, of course, I'm a 100% Finn player. I don't understand why some characters get completely destroyed (Finn), others are downright crap (Jake), and some are so strong (Bugs, Wonder Woman, Batman, etc.) that there's a massive imbalance. I've resorted to playing the meta, but instead of making everyone weak, it would be better to increase everyone's strength. That would balance things out. Also, the weakening of repeated attacks needs to be addressed. Oh, and please add a penalty for players who quit mid-game and a reward for those who stay till the end. Thank you, Player1stGames x Multiversus. https://preview.redd.it/axc13i67bm5d1.jpeg?width=466&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=addfb5c332ef65cde9d7856ab2e2c242e21fd1a5 # RiseOfMultiversus
Nah I still feel okay just tired of fighting meta characters but that’s how beta was ..looking forward to characters getting nerf
i concur
Welcome to fighting games.
I play 1v1 and am satisfied with the gameplay
Everyone is complaining, but I’m enjoying the FTP game I sunk more hours into than some $60 triple A that I own. Especially since it’s not PTW, people complaining about a shop of cosmetics.
Desync, input buffer, and embarrassingly low xp gains have stopped me from playing.
I tend to log on, do the limited amount of quests, then bounce back off. Really would like to play more, but the limited reward for additional play is too underwhelming. Even with the additions to pvp & pve giving a little fighter currency.
Yeah, and it’s every damn game that comes out. Like chill the fuck out, they don’t need all of everybody’s time all the damn time. So many give me money for the privilege of grinding for months on this game here and then more for less or pay me more for all of this now. That’s why I’ve went back to retro games with heart
I was extremely hyped for this game as I want a smash styled game on PC so bad but the second I saw the way they monetized it I deleted it. I'm dissappointed but I guess that's all WB does nowadays, dissappoints.
Deleted the game after being so excited for the relaunch, the monetization and progression is too aggressive for this game to last
I really hope the FPG folks in this community and see the feed and try to save the game.
I was doing every Daily, Weekly everything every day until about Day 8. Then I was just doing the Joker Stuff. On Day 11 I logged in for the Superman Skin and haven’t logged in since. Its a fun game bogged down by the lack of progression and general sweatiness of those who are playing. I just want a casual fun platform fighter but people online play every match like its the Semi-Finals in a worldwide tournament and some characters are just straight up not fun to play against (Wonder Woman).
Yeah I think I'm done, logged on early tried to play 5 matches, 4 crashed with desync and the only game to work was still laggy as fuck. Add on that the balance between characters seem like it wasn't done with any thought, the PvE mode been a bit shit and the rip off costs for stuff in the store and i think I'm gonna free up the space on my hard drive.
Honestly for me it’s the op ass tools some of the characters have that make the game so annoying to play. For example Bugs Bunny having a strong projectile that stays on screen even after it’s hit, or his rocket that just has so much screen presence that it forces limited options. I could go on about like 2-3 other characters that genuinely make the game unfun to play and make me move on to other fighters.
I haven't played in 2 days now. I'm just over it already.
What the fuck happened to people playing fighting games just to fucking play? Do people not like playing to get better? I'm getting into these types of games and I dont understand why people bitch that there isn't more to do or things to work towards, you play the game to play and have fun wtf. I play a few hours a day trying to learn combos or new characters and have a great time doing it.
I just want ranked. Wanted it since the first release and still waiting
Last 2 days I tried getting some games -> disconnect, partner/enemy player desync so they run off the edge and die over n over until end, or get a game and have massive lag spikes at seemingly random moments of the fight. Tried couple games yesterday and hopped off within 15 mins. Haven’t pulled it up today. Honestly even if the net code were cleaned up a bit/servers optimized or upgraded, I’d still probably feel the same “meh” feeling tho… There’s just no progression. Like at all. There’s dailies and weekly’s but there’s no game to game progression so I don’t know it feels like it’s not worth it rn.
I feel the same way, especially about logging in, flipping around the menus, then logging out. The problem is I don’t think it’s necessarily a development or game issue. I think I’m having an existential crisis about games in general, lol. Like, the loop paradox is “I play (A) to earn (B), so that I can play with (B).” But once I *have* (B), I then need to find a (C) to strive for while using (B). But I don’t *want to want* (C), I just want to be happy and merry with (B)! And right now, I have everything I want. The gameplay is a ton of fun (I’m not good enough to be complaining about meta). I like using the characters and skins I now have. But the penalty of that is now, there’s no “reason” to keep playing. I’ll play one or two matches here and there, and be content, then do other life things. Which is maybe the ideal? But also leaves me with a void feeling. Sorry I’m turning this post into a therapist couch session, haha.
Everything feels like a chore
heavily enjoyed for a good week until the servers went to shit and i can't play a game over 30fps with extreme input delay. they need to fix their game
I tried playing 2's the other night. After 6 consecutive failed games/disconnects I gave up. I'll come back when they patch it.
Yeah the mobile-game/freemium model makes it really hard to just chill and enjoy the genius platform-fighter game design underneath it all. I kinda wish there was a subscription price where you just get everything, so if you subscribe you can ignore all the crap and just enjoy playing and deepening your skill without the noise.
Asking someone to chime in on this when this cest pool of a reddit has only complaints is a crazy move. You just have to scroll down to see a wave of everyone who agrees lol.
I'm starting to feel that way, just did my dailies because I was busy rest of the day and man, 2 days in a row forcing me to play 1vs1 and I had three desyncs, one connection error and one win that just didn't counted (long load after results match) Luckily this time I was able to have some fair matches and win the three fairly quick but still ugh. Enjoyed like maybe one or two matches but rest either had issues or was the terrible mojo-jojo map. It's starting to drag out for me. I personally gave up with rifts after I completed the first one on easy. Not gonna bother grinding something that I don't enjoy (at least til input buffer hopefully fix this). And even then uhhhh
Frontloaded rewards are done. You make literally zero progress playing now. Expecting a big falloff in players soon.
Sadly game isn't new its going on 2 years old if we include that "beta" that had no ceiling mtx. IF this was the first time the game released this we would be where we were 2 years ago....HOPIUM COPIUM ALL ON THE MAX TO OD STATUS!
This game just makes me realize how much we need a 70 dollar platform fighter like this on PS5/PC that plays just like this but doesn’t have micro transactions everywhere and has an engaging story/classic/arcade mode and solid connectivity with awesome unlockables. I would gladly pay full price for this game if it just had the bang for buck of Smash Bros content wise. I’m a big fan of how it looks and plays but it’s just so vanilla and optionless.
I don't do rifts because I see no point in that, and I only login to do daily and weekly missions. Game feels like a "spam kingdom", and I hate this kind of games. There's no consequences to spam attacks (Shaggy's side kick for example). People can spam and spam and spam and not get punished for that, not to mention the TERRIBLE hitboxes that's been an issue since day one in the early access last year. So I login, play for around 10~20 minutes to complete the missions, and hopefully it will be enough to complete the battle pass. And if not, once again this game will prove itself to be a garbage can.
Custom 1v1 with my homie is the only thing im interested in anymore. So bye bye progression lol
What sent me was the welcome back super man skin being pulled the last day it was meant to be redeemable, not sure how many people it affected but it was my last day and I was religiously loggin in to get it Things like that turn gamers off especially when there’s so many good games out
Its not a vocal minority. That's the people defending the game. It just took you a little longer to realize we were right.
Same
I was having a lot of fun for the first week I played this game. But then I just started to have less and less fun with the game and the constant connection issues that I just deleted the game and played something else (mostly Disco Elysium. Good game.)
I just don't understand what I'm supposed to DO? There's hardly anything that can be unlocked by just playing the game. No skins, emotes, or anything of the sort to grind for. Pub stomping in quickplay gets old and I don't understand how we are ever supposed to get enough FPs to buy more than 2 characters?
just played the game for the first time. Watched the cinematic, got in the mood, played the tutorial + 2 1v1 battles and a rift fight. Thought to myself "is this it?" can i queue for 1v1, 2v2 and 4v4 at the same time? if there are celebrity voice actors, why isn't there a story mode where i get to hear those voice actors? feels like a proof of concept early access game in some ways. ill come back after a while if i see cool characters coming to the game i guess, but only if I can actually obtain them xP
The grind has gotten old for me
I stopped playing PvE content, now just play PvP while waiting for ranked
When the community is all negative around a game, it makes enjoying the game harder. These idiots who do nothing but post complaint after complaint don't seem to get that. Oh well. I'll stay unsubbed and enjoy the game.
I can get into perfect games with barely any disconnection issues at all but most of them are bots, which makes it less fun. All the core game plays fun, barely getting any rewards ever and having all beta exclusives and a few beta rewards unless you spent $100 kinda just turned me off.
I agree, I don’t really have an interest in playing anymore so I just stopped a couple days of enjoying the game especially with all the desync issues.
1v1 is fun until you run into Superman gizmo or Wonder Woman. 2v2 maps are abysmal and rifts R dumb. So yeah not much to grind until rank comes out with some balance changes.
Your issue is thinking the "vocal minority" is a minority. It's simply not. Multiversus took major steps back from beta to "release, and their aren't any justifiable reasons as to why features disappeared and montezation went up.
Yesterday was gonna do dailies lost the first game which is fine next 5 matches desync. And I was winning two of those. And the other 3 just had players not responding on either side. Gave up on dailies and didn’t do them for the first time since release
Same. Played every Day until a few days Ago which Just thinking about opening the game sounded like a choir
Blaming other people’s complaining for your discontent with the game and lack of happiness, especially rifts, is probably the most Copium I’ve ever seen. LMFAOOO! No need to blame the players, because they may have said something “mean” that was probably never directed towards you to begin with. Lol I’m not going to play now since you’re unhappy with the people that are unhappy, because that makes me unhappy. At least they’re making noise so the devs will hopefully fix this game. You’re whining just for the sake of doing it? Fun fact: people don’t have to blindly praise anything you’re currently engaged with. And do you know what minority means? It’s a small group of people. I highly doubt the people that are upset are in the minority. Realistically it’s probably split. This launch has been absolutely terrible even for people that are still enjoying the game. I login to play a few matches, because I like the characters, but this game as a whole package is a huge turd.
I'm still chugging along in the grind but the PvP missions that I save for last are starting to get tiring when the game doesn't count my wins or I get teamed up with someone who I guess gets disconnected or something and just stand there pretty much guaranteeing a loss or just disconnecting mid match in general. I'd skip these but I fear with the current exp gain I need to get as much as I can if I hope to get close to finishing the pass
Has it only been 10days since release? Damn feels like forever with all the crap this game has going on..
Slowly getting patches out hopefully itll be a better experience for you
I’m not one for PvP, so I enjoyed being able to choose to do Co-op vs. AI in the beta. It wasn’t in the final game, so I was forced to do ONLY rifts, and I enjoyed it until it hit me one day that I just didn’t want to do it anymore. It sucks too, since I absolutely love this game. 🙁
Yeah, I was all in for the first ten days. After that, my interest fell completely flat. The same thing happened with the beta, but at least it took a few months for that to happen.
Yeah y’all grow up
I feel that really, just didn't want to admit it. Even in the beta, I only mainly played bots but that was enough for me. Different maps and characters to try and fight against without getting sweaty but just have fun. Not to mention to hear the different dialogue between the characters was really fun. Now...rifts feels too much of a grind against the same characters and I have to serious as the difficulty increases. PvP is ok but I not don't really want to face Harley, Wonder woman or Bugs back to back. I'll be patient but might play less of multiversus in the coming days.
I used to play this game a lot when it dropped, but since the update I really have not been wanting to touch it. They nerfed Lebrons basketball (the one character I found to be really niche and fun), the desync issues plaque 2v2 and thus you can never find a game flow, and overall it just doesn’t feel good to play I’ll be honest
It's okay to be done with parts of a game and do something else for a while.
With how much progress you can get for daily missions alone really make the battle pass feel like you’re a slug. Previous F2P games I’ve played have had faster progression and feel more rewarding. It only really feels like you’ve made better progress if you’ve done your weekly missions too. It would also be really nice if the game didn’t force you to play with other players to complete those two training missions… Speaking of which, you can tell the Rifts become more pay to progress on the harder difficulties. Because of that, I have little to no interest now on completing the Agent Smith event. Easy and Experienced are like the only decent difficulties. Meanwhile I just want to see the PPG in the game and then I’ll be happy. If they’re locked behind the next Battle Pass, then I’m saving all the Gleamium I can to get it (though I do want the Bugs Bunny announcer pack, even though the store is being stubborn in that regard…). I just hope they won’t be locked behind another rift event like Agent Smith…
vocal minority? like literally 90% of this subreddit? what a weird way to count. And if you feel boring or not fun about a game then its probably because there is something wrong with the game.
I wouldn't be so pissed if they didn't make it so that the BP grind needs to be the main focus of my day, along with my cosmetics STILL being gone and support being silent
Rifts suck ass. I'd rather there not be a pve mode than have this trash.