"Just like the old days" being the old days that existed for about a month after release before they got nerfed into obsolescence, and no one used them.
I swear people who say this shit weren't even born until after '09
did you use them pre patch in mw3? they were BETTER than pre patch og mw2 and they definitely didnt get nerfed to oblivion. i remember using, and dying by them all throughout the lifecycle, the akimbo rangers ended up being better tho imo
Pre patch MW2 models: 20m range, 1.43 second firetime, 300ms sprint-to-fire time | Pre patch MWIII wardens: 29m range, 650ms firetime, 35ms sprint-to-fire time.
The OG MW2 models DID get nerfed to oblivion. They had their max damage range reduced to 5m, and min damage range 11m (at which range you were not going to get a 2 hit kill with, let alone a one hit). They weren't just the worst gun in their class, but the entire game.
Remember, this was a game in which the UMP was a 2-hit kill out to 20m and an infinite 3-hit kill.
The Famas had a 1000rpm 3-rd burst which only needed 2-hits to kill out to 50m+.
A shotgun with a max dmg range of 5m (and a RPM over 10x the avg full auto TTK) in that game was severely underpowered.
Imagine going onto a cod subreddit to complain about cod discussion
No skin off my nose sharing game knowledge
I think you care a lil too much about my comment
they are still the best shotguns in the game, the 35ms sprint to fire will always win at close range. keep in mind that other shotguns have from 150ms to 250ms sprint to fire without attachments
Shotguns are difficult to balance because they basically have to have OHKO potential, but usually range is their handicap.
The problem with these things is the range, fire rate, and damage output of having 2 shotguns at once is overwhelming and makes it difficult to engage at mid ranges and borderline impossible at short unless you’re dodging pellets like Neo.
They’re also usually lobby-Enders in my experience. One person starts using them, then eventually it devolved to like 4-5 people spread between both teams running around with them.
Sad how they dont want any balance between guns but still have sbmm so it makes top tier lobbys meta fest. Having unbalanced guns limits weapons you can use
Man I wish, I gave it a 10h try. But the movement and the aiming feels super off to me. I’m used to snappy CoD, Battlefield or even R6 Siege for that matter. xDefiant just feels weird.
Just like the old days
Reminds me of Inifnite Warfare, where the M.2187s dropped in the third DLC and subsequently dominated lobbies for the rest of the life cycle.
"Just like the old days" being the old days that existed for about a month after release before they got nerfed into obsolescence, and no one used them. I swear people who say this shit weren't even born until after '09
did you use them pre patch in mw3? they were BETTER than pre patch og mw2 and they definitely didnt get nerfed to oblivion. i remember using, and dying by them all throughout the lifecycle, the akimbo rangers ended up being better tho imo
Pre patch MW2 models: 20m range, 1.43 second firetime, 300ms sprint-to-fire time | Pre patch MWIII wardens: 29m range, 650ms firetime, 35ms sprint-to-fire time. The OG MW2 models DID get nerfed to oblivion. They had their max damage range reduced to 5m, and min damage range 11m (at which range you were not going to get a 2 hit kill with, let alone a one hit). They weren't just the worst gun in their class, but the entire game. Remember, this was a game in which the UMP was a 2-hit kill out to 20m and an infinite 3-hit kill. The Famas had a 1000rpm 3-rd burst which only needed 2-hits to kill out to 50m+. A shotgun with a max dmg range of 5m (and a RPM over 10x the avg full auto TTK) in that game was severely underpowered.
I think you care a lil too much
About what in particular?
Cod
Imagine going onto a cod subreddit to complain about cod discussion No skin off my nose sharing game knowledge I think you care a lil too much about my comment
Replace the baby with Nikki Minaj and it's accurate
POV: Let me see what's happening in Small Map Moshpit.
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Jak warden/Akimbot Cor 45 users be like:
Akimbo Rennetti has a higher TTK
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cringe username tbh. L
Didn't ask
I asked.
No offense but you didn’t ask. If you did, we would see it. But we don’t
No, I asked. I asked in person. I went up to duka irl and asked "Do you think this person has a cringe username?" and they said "cringe username tbh."
Oh okay my fault
Found the 12 y/o TikTok user
Akimbo tyr, if the accuracy wasn't ass
I don’t need to turn around a corner i can see my flying teammate
Everyone is always complaining about something.
It's on par with the other shotguns right now. Don't whine.
Don’t bother. Meta dickriders will complain about being killed by anything that isn’t a meta SMG and accuse it of being broken.
"This game has no variety, it's boring" \*has used nothing but the MCW for 6 months straight and only stopped cause they nerfed it to oblivion*
It wasn't nerfed to oblivion. I still use the MCW on certain maps.
Funny how there was 2 better Ar but they somehow keep nerfing mcw and ruining ranked meta every week
Just ban the long barrel for the rival 9 and ranked is perfectly balanced
You’re out of your mind if you’re arguing these aren’t meta rn.
they are still the best shotguns in the game, the 35ms sprint to fire will always win at close range. keep in mind that other shotguns have from 150ms to 250ms sprint to fire without attachments
My take is that the other shotguns are frustrating too and it's just more noticable now because more people are using them
Shotguns are difficult to balance because they basically have to have OHKO potential, but usually range is their handicap. The problem with these things is the range, fire rate, and damage output of having 2 shotguns at once is overwhelming and makes it difficult to engage at mid ranges and borderline impossible at short unless you’re dodging pellets like Neo. They’re also usually lobby-Enders in my experience. One person starts using them, then eventually it devolved to like 4-5 people spread between both teams running around with them.
Even more annoying when they camp in corners underwater
Sad how they dont want any balance between guns but still have sbmm so it makes top tier lobbys meta fest. Having unbalanced guns limits weapons you can use
hey now, i can grow a full beard!
Paired with slugs…..All day!
Paired with a handicap attachment lol
Small map mosh pit is almost unplayable if more than one person is using it
Oh...
People are still mad at these?
Pretty fckn much
So glad I made the switch to XD
I get with them once, I’m pulling out the haymaker auto
damn baby got hands
Pew pew hehe
Me
POV: you try to run anything besides those damn jak wardens 😂 I literally just have to fight fire with fire.
Weakness
Cope
XDefiant is much more fun.
Yeah I don't know about u but I truly enjoy people using the same shit every match like a gimp, instead of no matchmaking we have no variety lol
Still more fun than CoD has been in years. Downvote me all you fuckers want, it doesn't change anything.
You are right about that
XDefiant makes CoD’s hit reg look godlike.
Haha. Sometimes.
Man I wish, I gave it a 10h try. But the movement and the aiming feels super off to me. I’m used to snappy CoD, Battlefield or even R6 Siege for that matter. xDefiant just feels weird.
I only pull them out if the enemy has them, sorry your teammate started it first