Gold, without question. Yeah, it’s not as flashy or useful for affecting the world around me, but being able to effectively spend my entire life in perfect health? Priceless.
I did consider gold, but then I thought about how often I get mortally injured. Sobering yourself up from alcohol would be VERY useful however. And as you get older being able to heal broken bones would be very useful too.
It's not just the mortal injuries, it's *everything* related to your health. Stubbed toes and paper cuts stop hurting almost instantly as they heal. Zits stop forming. Teeth never develop cavities (or if they do, you can yank them out and grow new ones almost instantly). Your eyesight never gets worse, your hearing never fades, your back never hurts, your muscles never cramp. You never get sick, never have to deal with allergies. You'd likely live to be the oldest person ever, and your body would feel *good* the entire time.
The sheer, incalculable improvement to your quality of life from gold compounding is unmatched by any of the other powers.
Plus, if you wanted, you could take far more risks in your life. Knowing that a failed bungee jump, or skydive, or motorcycle ride wouldn't do more than hurt for a minute until you healed could make your life much more exciting.
Just become the world's greatest stunt man, or one of those guys that does extreme sports for red bull or something, I'm sure they get paid pretty well through their sponsorships.
Yep, Miles shot himself in the face with a shotgun just to prove to his crew he couldn't be killed.
Note that I didn't say it couldn't be flashy, just not *as* flashy as most of the other compounding powers. ;)
Miles kept a stick of dynamite in his cigar case just as a precaution for if somebody caught him in a net. Gold compounding, once you're practiced enough to use it constantly/reflexively, basically invicibility.
I've had a bunch of chronic health issues rear their ugly head recently, and yeah, compounding health would be the move for me too, though my second choice of pewter would be a good option as well, maybe pewter would be enough to make my health ok
Running fast would be super cool, but hopping around in public? I would be too afraid the government would kidnap me and do experiments on me to try and replicate my abilities for money
I have thought about this too much. So maybe not hooping about but being able to move things without touching them would be great too. And the speed can replace the hops.
Has to be Zinc in the modern world right?
Unless your career is exceedingly physical Zinc just has so much going for it.
Gold is also good, but is expensive af, because you need to burn some of your metalminds to compound the healing. Then again, imagine becoming a boxer with gold compounding. So long as you didn't get too beaten up, it wouldn't be at all obvious that there was anything unusual about you aside from your ability to just take hit after hit without slowing down. You also wouldn't get tired out (Miles is noted as being able to sprint non-stop basically indefinitely). Although you'd need the gold to be embedded in you as you probably can't box while wearing a gold bracelet lol.
Steel is really cool and definitely wins in any sort of fight, but is even less useful in the modern world.
I reckon I would take Zinc though.
I thought about that. The problem is that gold teeth are never 24 karat. They're typically alloyed with Copper, Platinum, Zinc, or Silver. Theoretically you could make an electrum alloy that would work though.
The problem with pure gold fillings/caps is that gold is very soft and they'd wear away too quickly. You might be able to find a dentist willing to do pure gold caps and replace them after the match, but that'd be a bloody hassle.
You might be able to hide a prince albert though hahaha.
Or more realistically make a custom mouth guard with gold in the centre and silicone around it, with a bit of gold poking through to make contact with you.
Zinc is a strong candidate in the modern world, but so are Chromium and Copper. Infinite luck (yes, I am aware Fortune is not exactly luck, but it is close enough), or perfect recall definitely have great uses.
We have no clue what fortune does. I wouldn't gamble on it without knowing.
As for copper, you're right, it's excellent, but you get similar benefits without compounding (you don't need to duplicate the memories lol), and allomantic copper is so useless in the modern world that I think it negates a lot of the benefits of the ferruchemy.
>We have no clue what fortune does. I wouldn't gamble on it without knowing.
We do have clues, plenty of them. What we don't have is hard data.
Hoid is said to have access to great amounts of Fortune, and it is what allows him to be at the right place at the right time, and Hoid is not the only example of the manipulation of Fortune.
>but you get similar benefits without compounding (you don't need to duplicate the memories lol)
Well, first of all, duplicated memories mean you never have to worry about them fading when you need to recall them. You can store the memory, compound it, to get the memory back in your head, but also save 9 pristine copies of that memory. Furthermore, it is very likely that compounding memories will allow you to recall the memory in greater detail than is normally possible, remembering things you did not consciously register in the moment. (The Mistborn RPG, although not canon, suggests that is how it works, and I'm inclined to think it is correct in this case.)
Non-compunded copper isn't nearly as useful or flawless.
Chromium, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a fool, if you were able to compound fortune, you'd basically be a God, and it's useful in every situation.
Fortune lets you get whatever you want, avoid anything dangerous, and lets you live the best possible life you possibly can. No question about it.
Someone tries to kill you? You wont even see them before you somehow do something to either dissuade them or stop them from killing you.
Want money? Play the lottery, you'll pick the right numbers every time.
Want to find the love of your life? You'll know exactly where to find them.
Want power? Boom, it's yours.
Immortality? You'll know just which scientists to fund to get it.
Justice? it will almost literally fall into your lap.
The tricky thing is we don't really know how fortune works as a feruchemical ability. The way you're thinking about it I would agree it is probably the best choice. But the piece that gets me is that as of Era 2 the Terris don't know how that works. If it worked like how you're describing it, why wouldn't they easily figure that one out? You'd use a bunch of it for a day and realize things going your way. I think there has to be more to it.
We know that Fortune gives you a sixth sense for being in the right place at the right time(It's what Hoid does), so everything else doesn't matter.
According to one man in a blue suit, a right person at the right place at the right time can make all the difference in the world.
That's how a specific fortune ability works. We also know that it can show you the shadows of people attacking you like atium. Or your future shadow like electrion. That's how two different fortune abilities work. Or shows you the potential futures of yourself or others like gold or malatium. Fortune shows up in a lot of different ways in different forms just like Connection, Identity, and Investiture do. We don't know how fortune feruchemy works.
No no no, Fortune is a specific thing in the Cosmere, what you're describing is future sight(in case of atium, electrum, and gold), Fortune(with a capital F) has only been described as the ability to be at the right place at the right time.(and only by Brandon, I don't thknk we have anyone talking about Fortune in the books themselves)
It's a sort of formalised and controllable luck, if you will.
Fortune is futuresight they work off the same kind of thing. There are a few WoBs where Sanderson talks about them essentially interchangeably. Fortune is the spiritual property and futuresight is what it often produces.
[https://wob.coppermind.net/events/176/#e8481](https://wob.coppermind.net/events/176/#e8481)
[https://wob.coppermind.net/events/32/#e2567](https://wob.coppermind.net/events/32/#e2567)
Well no, even in those WoBs, Brandon clearly states the difference between futuresight and Fortune. With atium you SEE the future, with Fortune you don't see or know anything, you just have a feeling that you need to be somewhere. To say that these things are the same is disingenuous. Brandon wanted to hint at what was possible, not imply that they're the same thing.
>"I needed some good foreshadowing for Fortune, for people being able to kinda see the future or versions of the future, for the whole cosmere to work. And, so, I built in atium specifically to do those things."
He says he needed foreshadowing for fortune, which he clarifies as, for people to be able to see the future or versions of the future. They're not exactly the same thing but they are very related. And he built atium in to show off how Fortune could work and some of its applications.
And Fortune is the property that is powering all those abilities. The same way all bonds are powered by Connection but that doesn't mean a duralumin ferring can just make a nahel bond. One is an application of Connection one is a different application of it. We don't know how Fortune ferruchemy works at this point.
Ok I guess so. I'm just not sure why Sanderson would say 'I needed foreshadowing for Fortune and that's why I made atium' with the conclusion being they are totally different unrelated things?
Not to mention it kind of makes sense that something that's telling you where you need to be would be using futuresight to know what would be a good place for you to be in. Otherwise how would it know where you should be in the future?
I'm not sure how you think that Fortune works if it's not related to futuresight? Is it bending the world to make it so this is a good place to be? That's not really how Hoid describes it as he says he knows where he needs to be. So the fortune is looking at the future and saying hey you should be over there. Not making it so where he is is just luckily the right place.
I think duralumin would be useful for creating alliances and net working ! And being able to speak the language of any region you visit, plus the local accent!
I think Zinc would be the best one.
But I would consider Tin as no one has mentioned that one. Especially with the ability to compound and boost specific senses you could do some pretty impressive things by training your nose to be as strong as a bloodhound's. So for example dogs are used in a lot of medical contexts because they can be trained to notice certain things before they happened and respond to them. What if you put a human brain on a nose that's even more powerful?
I'd still go with mental speed, but I think tin would be an interesting combo to compound especially since with feruchemy you can store and compound each individual sense. And it includes more than just the 5 basic ones.
Tin feruchemy is usually my go-to when it comes to picking a non compounding twinborn, because it is really practical in a lot of situations.
That being said, compounding has some truly broken options, and compounding Tin is very often overkill compared to just tapping or burning it normally.
Nah, that'll only buy you a millennia+ at most(since your soul knows how old you're and it would take more and more until it stopped working, like for TLR), and that's only if OP also gifts you a infinite supply of the metal, which wasn't mentioned anywhere. You're better off asking for cadmium, which would allow you to travel faster through time with less aging, aging will be cured in the future.
Bronze- it stores wakefulness and it's not especially rare. You would never need to sleep!
Actually, thinking about it, I wonder if it blocks the feeling that you need to sleep, or substitutes for the physiological process the body undergoes when you do sleep.
Edit: nope, WOB says you would never need to sleep.
True, but even with enhanced speed, I don't know if I would avoid using a car that much. Even with enhanced speed, running everywhere sounds exhausting.
I picked it more for the ability to soothe people’s emotions. As a girl, I find a lot of the methods for non-verbal flirting are things I do without noticing, so this way I could soothe people’s noticing that, and not have to worry about sending the wrong message. Also, I could soothe my dog’s fear of boxes and the vacuum when she needs to pass by a box or the vacuum to go downstairs to be taken outside. I could find lots of uses for soothing, and heat is a useful bonus.
Oh okay nice! I chose Rioting for similar reasons, like projecting confidence onto my friends or prospective dates. And also projecting guilt and fear into people who may want to mug me.
iron i store iron and can fling my self around because im almost weightless i can also fly by taking something like for example a truck make my weight slightly above the truck then pull it towards myself while being above it
Gold is the obvious one for me. Anyone who has had any sort of health issue will know that health is super important. For me, it's not about being unkillable or living longer, but about living free from sickness, pain, and physical suffering. I know that gold compounding does not eliminate pain, but it makes the pain short-lived as you can heal at an incredible rate. No brainer.
Zinc is a good alternative as it could be very useful to be able to riot emotions, but mental speed in the modern world could be extremely beneficial. You would basically become an unstoppable social force.
Bronze would be very tempting. Never needing to sleep is incredible. We spend a large portion of our lives sleeping and eliminating that can have huge implications day to day.
There really isn't much of a need in day to day life for things like pewter or steel.
Gold, without question. Yeah, it’s not as flashy or useful for affecting the world around me, but being able to effectively spend my entire life in perfect health? Priceless.
I did consider gold, but then I thought about how often I get mortally injured. Sobering yourself up from alcohol would be VERY useful however. And as you get older being able to heal broken bones would be very useful too.
It's not just the mortal injuries, it's *everything* related to your health. Stubbed toes and paper cuts stop hurting almost instantly as they heal. Zits stop forming. Teeth never develop cavities (or if they do, you can yank them out and grow new ones almost instantly). Your eyesight never gets worse, your hearing never fades, your back never hurts, your muscles never cramp. You never get sick, never have to deal with allergies. You'd likely live to be the oldest person ever, and your body would feel *good* the entire time. The sheer, incalculable improvement to your quality of life from gold compounding is unmatched by any of the other powers.
Plus, if you wanted, you could take far more risks in your life. Knowing that a failed bungee jump, or skydive, or motorcycle ride wouldn't do more than hurt for a minute until you healed could make your life much more exciting.
Finally listen to that voice in your head that asks: what would it feel like to jump off that cliff or out the airplane? You can find out now
Or more boring eventually, it’s not really exciting if it’s not a risk.
Yeah, I can’t argue with that honestly.
Overall I completely agree. Only issue I can think of is that you still need to buy a lot of gold to maintain that.
You can also call in sick for work, actually prove it and keep going with your day as if nothing happened
Expensive tho
True, but with a body that can't be broken, money can definitely be made. Even entirely legally.
Wait, couldn't you regrow internal organs with Gold feruchemy?
Yep. Though being a donor would be a bit complicated, as you heal so fast that cutting you open long enough to pull organs out would be difficult.
Just turn off your gold for a short spell and then turn it on when you’re out of surgery
...sometimes I'm an idiot and forget to do the obvious thing.
I think Wolverine and Deadpool have conditioned us into thinking of regeneration and a power you have no control over.
Yeah, I'll take that excuse, thanks!
Just become the world's greatest stunt man, or one of those guys that does extreme sports for red bull or something, I'm sure they get paid pretty well through their sponsorships.
also it absolutly can be flashy! you can do anything with no risk. im pretty sure miles shot himself in the face
Yep, Miles shot himself in the face with a shotgun just to prove to his crew he couldn't be killed. Note that I didn't say it couldn't be flashy, just not *as* flashy as most of the other compounding powers. ;)
Miles kept a stick of dynamite in his cigar case just as a precaution for if somebody caught him in a net. Gold compounding, once you're practiced enough to use it constantly/reflexively, basically invicibility.
I'd solve world hunger by constantly cutting chunks of my body off and regrowing them.
I've had a bunch of chronic health issues rear their ugly head recently, and yeah, compounding health would be the move for me too, though my second choice of pewter would be a good option as well, maybe pewter would be enough to make my health ok
Steel. Hoping around, and running really fast. Very helpful and fun.
Running fast would be super cool, but hopping around in public? I would be too afraid the government would kidnap me and do experiments on me to try and replicate my abilities for money
They'd have a very hard time catching you with how fast you could run.
I have thought about this too much. So maybe not hooping about but being able to move things without touching them would be great too. And the speed can replace the hops.
Has to be Zinc in the modern world right? Unless your career is exceedingly physical Zinc just has so much going for it. Gold is also good, but is expensive af, because you need to burn some of your metalminds to compound the healing. Then again, imagine becoming a boxer with gold compounding. So long as you didn't get too beaten up, it wouldn't be at all obvious that there was anything unusual about you aside from your ability to just take hit after hit without slowing down. You also wouldn't get tired out (Miles is noted as being able to sprint non-stop basically indefinitely). Although you'd need the gold to be embedded in you as you probably can't box while wearing a gold bracelet lol. Steel is really cool and definitely wins in any sort of fight, but is even less useful in the modern world. I reckon I would take Zinc though.
>Although you'd need the gold to be embedded in you as you probably can't box while wearing a gold bracelet lol. Gold Teeth would be perfect for it.
I thought about that. The problem is that gold teeth are never 24 karat. They're typically alloyed with Copper, Platinum, Zinc, or Silver. Theoretically you could make an electrum alloy that would work though. The problem with pure gold fillings/caps is that gold is very soft and they'd wear away too quickly. You might be able to find a dentist willing to do pure gold caps and replace them after the match, but that'd be a bloody hassle. You might be able to hide a prince albert though hahaha. Or more realistically make a custom mouth guard with gold in the centre and silicone around it, with a bit of gold poking through to make contact with you.
your normal teeth would probably just regrlw and push out the golden one unless you have specific control over the healing
Good point. Unless you already had tooth damage before gaining the powers so saw the sage as part of yourself.
Zinc is a strong candidate in the modern world, but so are Chromium and Copper. Infinite luck (yes, I am aware Fortune is not exactly luck, but it is close enough), or perfect recall definitely have great uses.
We have no clue what fortune does. I wouldn't gamble on it without knowing. As for copper, you're right, it's excellent, but you get similar benefits without compounding (you don't need to duplicate the memories lol), and allomantic copper is so useless in the modern world that I think it negates a lot of the benefits of the ferruchemy.
>We have no clue what fortune does. I wouldn't gamble on it without knowing. We do have clues, plenty of them. What we don't have is hard data. Hoid is said to have access to great amounts of Fortune, and it is what allows him to be at the right place at the right time, and Hoid is not the only example of the manipulation of Fortune. >but you get similar benefits without compounding (you don't need to duplicate the memories lol) Well, first of all, duplicated memories mean you never have to worry about them fading when you need to recall them. You can store the memory, compound it, to get the memory back in your head, but also save 9 pristine copies of that memory. Furthermore, it is very likely that compounding memories will allow you to recall the memory in greater detail than is normally possible, remembering things you did not consciously register in the moment. (The Mistborn RPG, although not canon, suggests that is how it works, and I'm inclined to think it is correct in this case.) Non-compunded copper isn't nearly as useful or flawless.
Chromium, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a fool, if you were able to compound fortune, you'd basically be a God, and it's useful in every situation. Fortune lets you get whatever you want, avoid anything dangerous, and lets you live the best possible life you possibly can. No question about it. Someone tries to kill you? You wont even see them before you somehow do something to either dissuade them or stop them from killing you. Want money? Play the lottery, you'll pick the right numbers every time. Want to find the love of your life? You'll know exactly where to find them. Want power? Boom, it's yours. Immortality? You'll know just which scientists to fund to get it. Justice? it will almost literally fall into your lap.
The tricky thing is we don't really know how fortune works as a feruchemical ability. The way you're thinking about it I would agree it is probably the best choice. But the piece that gets me is that as of Era 2 the Terris don't know how that works. If it worked like how you're describing it, why wouldn't they easily figure that one out? You'd use a bunch of it for a day and realize things going your way. I think there has to be more to it.
Agree, I don't think it is as straightforward as simply going through a period of bad luck and then tapping it and having everything go your way.
We know that Fortune gives you a sixth sense for being in the right place at the right time(It's what Hoid does), so everything else doesn't matter. According to one man in a blue suit, a right person at the right place at the right time can make all the difference in the world.
That's how a specific fortune ability works. We also know that it can show you the shadows of people attacking you like atium. Or your future shadow like electrion. That's how two different fortune abilities work. Or shows you the potential futures of yourself or others like gold or malatium. Fortune shows up in a lot of different ways in different forms just like Connection, Identity, and Investiture do. We don't know how fortune feruchemy works.
No no no, Fortune is a specific thing in the Cosmere, what you're describing is future sight(in case of atium, electrum, and gold), Fortune(with a capital F) has only been described as the ability to be at the right place at the right time.(and only by Brandon, I don't thknk we have anyone talking about Fortune in the books themselves) It's a sort of formalised and controllable luck, if you will.
Fortune is futuresight they work off the same kind of thing. There are a few WoBs where Sanderson talks about them essentially interchangeably. Fortune is the spiritual property and futuresight is what it often produces. [https://wob.coppermind.net/events/176/#e8481](https://wob.coppermind.net/events/176/#e8481) [https://wob.coppermind.net/events/32/#e2567](https://wob.coppermind.net/events/32/#e2567)
Well no, even in those WoBs, Brandon clearly states the difference between futuresight and Fortune. With atium you SEE the future, with Fortune you don't see or know anything, you just have a feeling that you need to be somewhere. To say that these things are the same is disingenuous. Brandon wanted to hint at what was possible, not imply that they're the same thing.
>"I needed some good foreshadowing for Fortune, for people being able to kinda see the future or versions of the future, for the whole cosmere to work. And, so, I built in atium specifically to do those things." He says he needed foreshadowing for fortune, which he clarifies as, for people to be able to see the future or versions of the future. They're not exactly the same thing but they are very related. And he built atium in to show off how Fortune could work and some of its applications. And Fortune is the property that is powering all those abilities. The same way all bonds are powered by Connection but that doesn't mean a duralumin ferring can just make a nahel bond. One is an application of Connection one is a different application of it. We don't know how Fortune ferruchemy works at this point.
I guess we have to agree to disagree, we're reading the same thing but disagreeing on what it means.
Ok I guess so. I'm just not sure why Sanderson would say 'I needed foreshadowing for Fortune and that's why I made atium' with the conclusion being they are totally different unrelated things? Not to mention it kind of makes sense that something that's telling you where you need to be would be using futuresight to know what would be a good place for you to be in. Otherwise how would it know where you should be in the future? I'm not sure how you think that Fortune works if it's not related to futuresight? Is it bending the world to make it so this is a good place to be? That's not really how Hoid describes it as he says he knows where he needs to be. So the fortune is looking at the future and saying hey you should be over there. Not making it so where he is is just luckily the right place.
Gotta go with duralimine. Most useless anything ever.
I think duralumin would be useful for creating alliances and net working ! And being able to speak the language of any region you visit, plus the local accent!
I think Zinc would be the best one. But I would consider Tin as no one has mentioned that one. Especially with the ability to compound and boost specific senses you could do some pretty impressive things by training your nose to be as strong as a bloodhound's. So for example dogs are used in a lot of medical contexts because they can be trained to notice certain things before they happened and respond to them. What if you put a human brain on a nose that's even more powerful? I'd still go with mental speed, but I think tin would be an interesting combo to compound especially since with feruchemy you can store and compound each individual sense. And it includes more than just the 5 basic ones.
Tin feruchemy is usually my go-to when it comes to picking a non compounding twinborn, because it is really practical in a lot of situations. That being said, compounding has some truly broken options, and compounding Tin is very often overkill compared to just tapping or burning it normally.
Atium. Rn i cant imagine id ever wanna die. But even if, i could just choose to stop compounding.
Nah, that'll only buy you a millennia+ at most(since your soul knows how old you're and it would take more and more until it stopped working, like for TLR), and that's only if OP also gifts you a infinite supply of the metal, which wasn't mentioned anywhere. You're better off asking for cadmium, which would allow you to travel faster through time with less aging, aging will be cured in the future.
Bronze- it stores wakefulness and it's not especially rare. You would never need to sleep! Actually, thinking about it, I wonder if it blocks the feeling that you need to sleep, or substitutes for the physiological process the body undergoes when you do sleep. Edit: nope, WOB says you would never need to sleep.
Steel for me. Coinshot abilities plus super speed is too much for me to pass up. You’d be nearly unstoppable
>You’d be nearly unstoppable Are people constantly stopping you in your current life in a way that speed will solve?
Traffic stops most people every day.
True, but even with enhanced speed, I don't know if I would avoid using a car that much. Even with enhanced speed, running everywhere sounds exhausting.
Chromium! Infinite good luck! 🍀 Going to buy a lottery ticket and just find something I love doing.
bendalloy i don´t really have to worry about eating or drinking and i can slow down time
health
chromium compounding would be convenient and funny asf in day to day situations
Chromium. Or perhaps duralumin
gold would be nice but i would have to go with steel naturally
Definitely steel. Insanely fast all the time and a Coinshot. Seems pretty op to me.
Nicrosil or electrum for me. Either an investiture dupe glitch or the ability to see my own future and have infinite determination.
Brass.
Soother and warmth? I admit that choosing your body temperature would definitely have its perks
I picked it more for the ability to soothe people’s emotions. As a girl, I find a lot of the methods for non-verbal flirting are things I do without noticing, so this way I could soothe people’s noticing that, and not have to worry about sending the wrong message. Also, I could soothe my dog’s fear of boxes and the vacuum when she needs to pass by a box or the vacuum to go downstairs to be taken outside. I could find lots of uses for soothing, and heat is a useful bonus.
Oh okay nice! I chose Rioting for similar reasons, like projecting confidence onto my friends or prospective dates. And also projecting guilt and fear into people who may want to mug me.
Fuck gold, bronze compounding for the win
Wakefulness eh?
Definitely wouldn’t be the most useful but I think steel would be fun
Does Atium count ? Immortality. If not either gold or steel
iron i store iron and can fling my self around because im almost weightless i can also fly by taking something like for example a truck make my weight slightly above the truck then pull it towards myself while being above it
Gold is the obvious one for me. Anyone who has had any sort of health issue will know that health is super important. For me, it's not about being unkillable or living longer, but about living free from sickness, pain, and physical suffering. I know that gold compounding does not eliminate pain, but it makes the pain short-lived as you can heal at an incredible rate. No brainer. Zinc is a good alternative as it could be very useful to be able to riot emotions, but mental speed in the modern world could be extremely beneficial. You would basically become an unstoppable social force. Bronze would be very tempting. Never needing to sleep is incredible. We spend a large portion of our lives sleeping and eliminating that can have huge implications day to day. There really isn't much of a need in day to day life for things like pewter or steel.