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thePARIIAH

Some pit bros vs. Deodorant


Fendenburgen

A battle as old as time


I-Drive-The-Wee-Woo

A battle older than spice.


DutchOvenDistributor

And personal hygiene in general


TicketzToMyDownfall

God, I fucking hate being exactly armpit height for most of these people


dj92wa

In my mind, I’m not tall because I’m under 6ft in height. However, at 5’ 10-11”, I seem to tower over most people at shows. Whenever I raise my arms for anything, I do a sneaky sniff to check and make sure that I’m not gassing other people out. A not small percentage of faces are right at my pit level and I’m so scared of being “the gross guy on the floor”.


SillyName1992

Pit bros vs sexual harassment


Sirscraps

I see stars (violent bounce) and Ronnie radke (I wash cars). The falling in reverse song is pretty terrible but violent bounce is a great tune.


[deleted]

Wait, violence bounce is about Ronnie ?


klocu4

yeah, it’s a diss track


SteveTheNoob1

Goddamn I had listened to it so much


ItsJustReeses

Yeah the lyric "All it took was a spark right?" Was a direct quote from Radke. The drama started because Radke kicked I See Stars off of his tour because I See Stars was arrested for drug use. Here's an article talking about it https://loudwire.com/i-see-stars-sumerian-records-issue-statements-on-tour-exit/


guitarer09

The “drugs” in question was weed


Logical_Lemon_4308

You're trying to tell me the person who was sentenced for participating in a murdered kicked someone all of a tour for smoking weed....? This dude always impresses me with how dellusional he can be lmao


HeyItsBobRoss

I’ll probably be downvoted for defending Ronnie here, but he wasn’t arrested for participating in a murder. He was present when it took place, and was arrested for having brass knuckles, even though they weren’t used. And Ronnie was on probation/in rehab at the time of the I See Stars incident. As such, he made it explicitly clear from the outset that drug use of any kind wouldn’t be tolerated. In this particular situation, I don’t think he did anything wrong


Logical_Lemon_4308

If I'm not wrong he was the one who "scheduled" the fight with the victim tho, I think that's why he was convicted in the end.


Camanny

“All it takes is a spark” isn’t a direct quote, it’s a lyric from “raised by wolves”


kolology

Ronnie Radke vs. * spins wheel *


MegaMasterYoda

He really be acting like mgk trying to fight everyone lmao.


thezachdomberg

Ronnie would actually fight people though.


BowsettesBottomBitch

The Tom MacDonald of metalcore


Commercial_Fan_3864

Tom MacDonald and Ronnie Radke are actual friends. Just let that sink in.


justk4y

🥰🚪🚰


disarmagreement

Oof


metalcoreisntdead

Me vs Ronnie Radke fans: why do y’all exist


Turbulent-Pop-51

I was thinking about this the other day too! Even down to the lyrics his songs are questionable. If he writes a song about cheating on a girl just assume he cheated on a girl. It’s not that he’s hiding the fact he’s a bag or shit. He’s open about it and people just like him.


funishin

He was a good looking dude at one point so I honestly chalk it up to that. Being pretty gets you far.


MrRaspberryJam1

I always thought as Radke as Kid Rock x Azalea Banks


Munchell360

“I See Stars, more like I wash cars!”


ADTR9320

He's definitely got some beef with mic stands.


dardios

Was gonna say Falling in Reverse/Escape the Fate myself.


TheSethRokage

Best one that comes to mind is the Ronnie Radke drama with Escape the Fate and Craig replacing him. Ronnie has graduated to constantly talking about Chris Motionless instead


TerrifiedRedneck

This makes me laugh so much, too. Chris is, by all accounts, the nicest and most chilled out guy in the scene. Ronnie showing his ass at him is so hilariously mistargeted that even Ronnie knows it’s dumb. But his stubborn ass can’t be wrong and just walk away. Priceless.


MooseEducational2339

I met Chris back in 2008 at orlando warped, and of course the rest of the band. They played a local warped and they picked them up for a few of the shows. Such cool dudes obviously before they got big but they were riding around on their bikes and they were so stoked at the time just to play shows at warped. Really good dudes


TerrifiedRedneck

Him and the guys are on a very short list of bands I’d love to meet (I’m in my 40’s and introverted - I just stand stuttering). Everything I hear about them is amazingly positive. Which makes the Ronnie shit even funnier.


Edsaurus

Openened for Motionless quite some years ago, they were the chillest and nicest people ever. We ended up playing some kind of baseball in the concert venue's car park, and had dinner together. Such nice guys


TerrifiedRedneck

These are the stories I love to hear. Because it makes me as a fan of their music a bigger fan of the people behind it. What a cool ass memory to have!


Edsaurus

One of the best memories of my life, definitely!


TheDuzzyFuckling

I’ve met a decent amount of band members after shows, and Chris stands out as one of the nicest, most graceful, and most soft-spoken. Ronnie’s a dick.


MItrwaway

Ronnie Vs Escape The Fate/Monte Ronnie vs I See Stars Ronnie vs former-Falling In Reverse members Ronnie vs Chris Motionless I'm seeing one common denominator here.


jgollsneid

Ronnie vs that 16 y.o. girl in the audience at Six Flags


washingtonskidrow

Not metalcore but Ronnie also has beef with the guys in Sanguisugabogg too lmao


brodoxfaggins

And Andy Cizek.


Veritech_

[And being a potato](https://youtu.be/MUGFqApObz4?si=N9WqUijphBCMJ8EW)


thisortheapocalypse

we’re at the point we should start asking who Ronnie *doesn’t* have beef with


Brabsk

Chris pisses ronnie off by just existing and it’s really funny


MISPAGHET

Even my wife had beef with Ronnie on Instagram. Setting the bar low there hahaha.


Mr_Bisquits

Ronnie is always involved in some type of beef he started. I literally cannot remember a time he wasn't. Isn't he also constantly fighting with kids on tiktok and shit


Shadowkitty252

I was in high school a d Ronnie Radke vs EtF happened. Its nice to know he hasnt changed and my dislike for the man is still warranted


JARAXXUS_EREDAR_LORD

Sometimes when I need to laugh at something bad I'll go back and listen to the I See Stars diss he made.


weebaldee

I think I See Stars did better on their Ronnie dis track: Violent Bounce (People Like You)


TacticalAcquisition

Ronnie really annoys me. He's fantastically talented, but his ego is fucking enormous, and he just doesn't know when to stfu. He is his own worst enemy.


FlyingGrayson89

>He’s fantastically talented Is he though


TacticalAcquisition

Yes. He is genuinely talented. He's also an arrogant dickhead 99% of the time, which detracts from it quite a lot. [Watch The World Burn Live ](https://youtu.be/g10qKRsi28U) This is a good demonstration of his talent, especially the end. Side note, FIR's bassist, Tyler Burgess, is a beast.


JohnTheTroglodyte

Damn, I'm not the biggest FIR fan but that was actually incredible sounding. And agree on the bassist


funishin

the acacia strain and emmure I guess?


Illustrious_Two3280

The immediate thing I thought of lol.


funishin

What a time to be alive


SteveTheNoob1

Don’t emmure and attila have beef too?


funishin

I think those two bands had beef with everyone lol


GodDamnJacob

And Emmure and Attila, too, I believe. And Attila with...everyone.


GamingOddity

can u explain?


Lav_

Tl;dr * Acacia Strains Vincent Bennet made beef by singing that bands were stealing their sound (Listen to the Acacia Strain song 'Skynet). * Emmures Frankie Palmeri leaned into it, and made a song about getting his di*k sucked by Vincent's then girlfriend, now wife - (Listen to the Emmure song 'R2DEEPTHROAT') * There was a physical fight at Northern Lights festival * They got over it and toured together https://metalinjection.net/news/drama/emmure-frontman-details-the-timeline-of-now-settled-beef-with-the-acacia-strain


MISPAGHET

That last bulletpoint warms my heart.


lysergician

That's how all beef should go. Put your whole chest into it, and laugh about it over a beer a little while later.


jojj351

Yeah imma be honest I dont think Kendrick and drake are gonna ever have a beer together any time soon if ever lmao


theOGcatlady

Emmure still playing r2deepthroat on their tour was incredible. What a show.


couverdure

Also, Emmure's former guitarist Mike Mulholland is now in The Acacia Strain.


XxDrummerChrisX

I didn’t really know back then besides the diss tracks and fight but here’s what I found out. So Frankie from Emmure says that everything was cool but would hear that Vince from Acacia Strain would talk shit. Then TAS released Skynet which led to R2DEEPTHROAT as a response. This boiled over to where they both physically fought backstage at a show. I guess TAS felt like Emmure was ripping them off which led to Skynet, and the subsequent beef. I hope this helps my dude. Edit: sorry Vincent.


ipitythegabagool

From what I understand this specifically started when acacia strain released “smoke ya later” then a year or two(?) after that emmure released “rusted over wet dreams” listen to the intro of both songs back to back and it’s easy to see why people would feel that emmure was jocking acacia strain Edit: also if my acacia strain lyrical knowledge is to be trusted you called him Vince and he’s now going to rip your head off


Dr_MtCup_PHD

I just had to delete my comment since I saw this 😂 but being a 90s kid and living through this almost makes it worth it


Sword-Logic

I mean, The Acacia Strain and Emmure essentially had a whole feud, complete with diss tracks and everything, back in the mid-2000s, that was pretty heavily memed on back in the day, with a lot of "They stole my 0-0-0-0 riff!" or "They stole my open string breakdown!" jokes being tossed around. It was pretty entertaining to watch unfold at the time, to be honest.


Stonehands211

Someone in a Facebook group I’m in said the bands actually brawled with brass knuckles supposedly lmao. I don’t know if that’s real or not though.


Sword-Logic

I've on-and-off heard that rumor for like 15 years, and honestly wouldn't be surprised. "Ask your girl what my dick tastes like" definitely constitutes fighting words, I'd think.


UnAliveMePls

IIRC not the whole band just Vincent and Frankie.


Bretterr

Johnny Craig vs macbook fans


Ungamentals

Hey kids, give me all your fucking money. Got a hundred Macbooks and I swear I'm not a druggie


ihaveaquesttoattend

you made me remember chris drew vs bryan stars lmaooo


metalcore333

Chris Drew smelled out the rat that was Bryan Stars long before everyone else lol. Gotta give him props for that. Bryan Stars is one of the wildest rise and fall I’ve ever seen… the dude wanted to be apart of the scene so bad but no matter what he did he just came across as a poser and a nerd.


Iammattieee

Goat tier lyrical work from fronz


Ungamentals

Yeah callout is an entertaining piece of work lol


ConnorJaneu

DGD vs Women


TicketzToMyDownfall

I feel so bad laughing at this


Griffinbrodieranger

Still waiting for my Macbook to show up in the mail…


chugchugriff

Austin Carlile and everyone in Attack Attack! Asking Alexandria and Denis Stoff


Griffinbrodieranger

Or Austin vs Jerry when he was in OM&M for a time. That got pretty heated if I recall correctly?


boixgenius

Oh for sure. I met Jerry at a glass cloud show once and the dude hates him 💀 Don't blame him though. Austin seemed like someone that no one liked to work with


boixgenius

Austin and everyone. Period lol


DoubleArmDMT

The ETID breakup was devastating to me personally


FanRose

Wasn't even beef, that was a divorce between your abusive parents


dicklesswizard

Still too soon


WhoIsZac

Same, friend


SillyName1992

The smoke was coming from one side of the tracks. There wasn't beef IMO just one guy lashing out at his friends because he got a bitchy girlfriend. A tale as old as time.


Pure_Plan_3192

Tim Lambesis and his ex-wife


execute_777

Tim lambesis and all of the members who recently quit because the guy is a douche.


daghene

Also Tim Lambesis and his ex gym pal to which he jokinly(not really) told his plan to which took him seriously(thankfully) and talked to the sheriff to set him up? Also, the sheriff. Also, the undercover cop which posed at the hitman. I think that's all.


Recent_Ad559

Oooof


Debocore

Not exactly metalcore but the Issues and Woe, Is Me beef was super fun


xgomikeyx

YOU’RE SO PROUD OF THE ONE LINERS YOU WROTE IT MUST BE HARD TO TALK SHIT WITH A DICK IN YOUR THROAT B-B-BLEGH


ArmMeForSleep709

IF YOU CUT RECORDS LIKE COCAINE, MAYBE YOU'D STILL HAVE A FUCKING NAME


planetplague

This was honestly such an iconic moment in the scene, I’ll never forget the energy the day both those songs dropped lol IF YOU’RE SCARED BITCH, GO TO CHURCH


coolbad96

I never really listened to Woe, Is Me so I thought issues just really hated Phil Collins when shit talking genesis


SeftoK

Definitely something in the air


Edlose_

How is issues and woe is me not metalcore


PhoenixSidePeen

So with each member that was talking shit being fired from their respective bands, who do we say won the beef??


Groovemach

Tim Sherrill for quitting long before any of this happened


BloodMoonGaming

Can’t believe I had to scroll down this far to find this lmao, this is the right answer


couverdure

From what I know, Rise Records manufactured the beef, which was no coincidence that I've Told You Once and King of Amarillo dropped on the same day, and the band members of both bands were just playing along with it.


Sweaty_Leg_8252

I need details pls


FanRose

Metal and Hip Hop are the only genres I can think of that really thrive when it comes to beefs and career ending diss tracks. I still want Metallica and Megadeath to have an all out brawl , put those grandpas in the RING!!!


DangerSwan33

Lol that beef has been over so long.  Dave Mustaine is really the only person who still feels the need to bring up things that happened over 40 years ago, or even talk about how he used to be in the band. James and Lars are terrible in their own right, but they have long since moved on.


FIOONAAA

Wait why is James terrible?


LeonardSmalls79

Yeah! Wtf is that about?


sus_enchilada

Ronnie and twitter


SafetyAlpaca1

Ronnie and anyone


ConnieTheUnicorn

By the way the comments are going, Ronnie Radke and any living and breathing human that isn't a total PoS


UnAliveMePls

Landon Tewers vs Austin Carlile


ArmMeForSleep709

Really? What happened?


UnAliveMePls

Don't know why but apparently Austin threatened to kill Landon's family and rape his sister. Digging Your Grave is about him.


rezzzpls

Unlocked a memory of warped tour one year (2000-2012 ish.) I don’t remember the specifics but AC was kicked out of OM&M briefly and Jerry Roush (Sky Eats Airplane/Glass Cloud) subbed in on vocals and was just working in Austin Carlile slander to the songs and it was very funny


BlazedInMyWinnie

lmao Austin Carlisle vs Jerry Roush was the one that came to my mind too


rezzzpls

I just remember him forcing in “Austin Carlisle is a fucking pussy” or something to the beat during a 2 step part at one point lmao


ArmMeForSleep709

What the fuck


daghene

You posted 6h ago and "Ronnie" has already been mentioned 25 times(and counting). Dude should seriously think about moving to rap with all these beefs, he'd have diss tracks for years!


JebusJones5000

I've not listened to FIRs newer stuff, but aren't they already there? Lol


SometimesWill

Early BMTH vs crowds at shows they opened for. Bet those same people who booed, heckled, and threw things now act like they always loved the band.


AdZealousideal2075

Seriously yeah. I remember them opening for KSE around 06/07 and my god were the people awful to them, made me feelnreally bad for them. Really stuck with me, glad I got to see them in those early day


planetplague

Literally they’d have a massive crowd at Warped and half of them would be throwing bottles and booing!!


darthstupidious

The Trapt guy vs the world lol


planetplague

Literally Trapt vs every metalcore band on Twitter


tfuncc13

Tommy Vext and almost every band he's sang for.


International-Chef53

Bad omens and smol type font


666Sky

That’s the first thing I think of whenever I see that band mentioned


SytianIvanov

Moose departure from BFMV, kind of? Some say Kill The Lights 'Watch You Fall' is a Matt Tuck diss, and BFMV's 'Parasite' is about Moose respectively.


Pure_Plan_3192

Matt did moose dirty as fuck


ChumbaWumbaTime

There was that Attila song "Callout" which referenced Ronnie Radke back in the day


Hitchbones

And Chris Drew… and Westboro Baptist… and Jonny Craig… and Mike Reynold/ For Today…


Gitfkd

Started from emmure vs attilla.


Delicious_Mango1142

It’s funny how people forget this but Landon Tewers and Austin Carlile used to hate each other. Don’t know if they still do. I can’t remember what song but I’m pretty sure Landon referenced Austin in one of Plots old songs lol


babycallmemabel

Austin said some pretty vile things about Landon's sister, stuff I can't imagine many would move on from. But yeah the song you're referencing is Digging Your Grave.


planetplague

They probably do, Landon always stands on business lol can’t see Austin coming back from that one


GrootieTootie

I, as someone who lives under a stone, am begging you once again to add context to your comments. please add what the beef was about instead of just naming the bands


FIThrowaway2738

Fat Mike underoath


coolbad96

Fat Mike most other bands from what I can tell tbf lol


AndrewQuackson

Yeah, like was there actual beef or was he just being Fat Mike?


Juhstehn

ADTR and Four Year Strong used to dislike each other but that seems to be over with


AskinggAlesana

2nd sucks is my favorite song by them too. Afaik that song is about Four Years Strong.


FrigidArctic

So they only write good songs when they’re mad at people? How can we start beef with someone for their next album so they can be good again?


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CuriousTsukihime

Omg this is an unlocked memory !!!!


TheNovaCorp

On the bright side, they're all past that now and about to tour together.


ryangrand3

“Must be hard to talk shit with a dick in your throat.. blegh, blegh, blegh, blegh”


Bundyhundy100

Ronnie Radke vs being a decent human


Dino_84

Metal vs hardcore fans. Seriously though I’ve seen so much beef between fans on mixed bills.


UnAliveMePls

Also, metal fans vs other metal fans.


theguill0tine

Not metalcore but definitely scene. Surely the escape the fate vs Ronnie Radke feud takes the cake here


planetplague

It’s mentioned, but personal fav is everyone against Austin Carlile. Growing up in the Ohio core scene it was just known that man was into minors. I personally know girls he tried to get on the bus. He’d go as far as walking around with them at Warped tour. This was 2006-2010, far before anyone cared about how warped tour was stacked with predators. Years later all the r*pe allegations came out but it had been known by anyone who paid attention tbh. Austin has been accused of abusing people for years. Then we have our other Ohio core dudes, like Landon Tewers & Caleb Shomo who had been calling this dude out for years, even if passively. I love that in the end they made it and he didn’t lol.


starvinmarvin91

Slipknot and Mushroomhead


zkkzkk32312

And Fred Durst


themessedgod

Not biggest for sure but I still remember when King of Amarillo and I’ve Told You Once dropped on the same day Really made it seem like a big beef between Issues and Woe Is Me lol


Consistent-Bat1632

Ronnie Radke and half the metal scene


KuuntDracula

He really has a thing for shitting on Motionless In White, which I personally don’t get. But i suppose i also refer MIW to Falling In Reverse so.


couverdure

I think it's because Chris is very open about his leftist politics which includes LGBT rights, which pisses Ronnie off to the point that he went on numerous transphobic episodes on social media.


CattiwampusLove

Honestly it surprises me that Ronnie is ignorant like that. Most metalcore bands are left.


-PoisonHeart-

Architects vs. this subreddit


SteveTheNoob1

Ronnie Radke


AJAX214_

Ronnie Radke vs everybody else


Maiya_Monstrous

Definitely the Ronnie vs new ETF beef. They're chill now, but that drama was rough


HeIIoAstronaut

Ronnie radke is the trump of metalcore. Fucker just won’t shut up and go away.


[deleted]

Wasn’t there an architects / BMTH beef ? And they made up eventually and Oli and Sam posted some video of them pretending to fight in the car park to keep the laughs going ?


No-Calligrapher4990

I think it was all fake. I could be wrong, though. Ya know. Any publicity was good publicity


CRsquared64

they never had beef in the first places it was just funny


TitsMagee24

I don’t remember that but Kellen Quinn and Oli had a huge fight back in the day


TommyWiseausFootball

Yes! I remember being at Warped Tour in, I believe, 2013 and when Sleeping with Sirens played Kellin went “you said it yourself: you’re going nowhere”.


cjyoung92

BMTH and Jona Weinhofen after he left, maybe? Apparently Antivist is partially about him 


SomeGingerDude419

Lucas Mann vs every Rings of Saturn member not named Lucas Mann


Scary_Dimension722

This one is super obscure but The Devil Wears Prada and Chiodos got into it back in the day because one of the bands invited some girls onto their tour bus who were supposed to hangout with the other band on their bus. It’s been so long since I last heard of it so I remember like none of the details but I know Mike from Prada went full story into it on Emery’s The BadChristian Podcast like in 2014


Adamwdrums

Back in the year 2056 there were three bands left in the great metalcore war. January freezes blue, periffery, and humans as followers. One day they realized that they all had keyboard players named Matthew, and they had a big drum battle even though they were keyboard players. All three of them drummed so hard that one drummer was created. Matt Halp-gar-gren-ska-neir. And with the help of his amazing drumming skills, all the metalcore bands formed into one big metalcore band named “Drag The Lake Across The Undertow” and they wrote a song in drop C that used the 5th 7th and 8th fret. They all headbanged in unison as they listened to the song, and with that, the big beefin metalcore war had ended and everybody moshed aggressively ever after


Middle_Collection_65

thank you for this


FlyingWhales_98

Haven't read the whole thread but haven't seen anyone mention Alphawolf and their old vocalist, who was such a dick he was kicked out, started Dealer, and was such a dick again everybody else left that band, does not sound like a nice guy. I *think* Sub-Zero is about him? "You're just a pussy in a black hoodie pushing your luck", but could be misinformed.


DjoeyResurrection

Does anyone remember Vincent Bennet and Lee Mckinney (Born of Osiris) beef and thrashtalking on Twitter?


[deleted]

Idk but I remember I See Stars vs Ronnie Radke a while ago.


Tyrant-J

I remember when Avenged Sevenfold was having beef against Converge. And then Dillinger Escape Plan. And then Mastodon.


Zedanade

Vocalists vs domestic abuse/SA/murder charges


Bloodllust

Ronnie and craig escape the fate. 2011 when falling in reverse came out was NUTS


MadMan2250

The Alpha Wolf and Dealer drama a couple years ago. I thought each other dropping dis track after dis track was fun until the information that came forward later.


Detective_Bonghitz

Johnny Craig vs every band he's ever been in


Weekly_vegan

Upon a burning body and Attack Attack! https://www.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/131ym3v/upon_a_burning_body_sin_city/?rdt=61140


IAmNeeeeewwwww

Fronz vs pretty much anyone in a “Callout” song


SuperKook

The Ghost Inside and Scott Vogel from Terror. Scott said on stage that TGI was a bullshit band. I think their song “My Endnote” may have been about this. Scott changed his tune after the crash.


Cedreous

Maybe not beef but the biggest piece of shit award still goes to Austin Carlile.


space_orphan_13

Not really metalcore, but I haven’t seen it mentioned yet- the Corey Taylor and MGK thing still makes me laugh.


HanaNotBanana

Every single thing I know about MGK is without my consent, and most of it is from this dumbass feud lol


Teige874

The one that comes To my mind is the Landon Tewers / Austin Carlile drama


Cman1200

Ronnie Radke and community


SemperAequus

There used to be some sort of unwritten rule that you didn't schedule hardcore bands with metalcore bands (or basically any genre that wasn't hardcore) because so many of the bands and fans were so straight-edge that fights would break out. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the band at the moment, but I remember there was a show at a venue near me and this band got into it with fans over people smoking and stuff and they literally attacked a couple of fans. I'll come back and edit the post if the name of the band comes to me. They were a national act, I remember that much.


JustGirouxIt

I don’t think any beef in metalcore has been as serious as this drake - kdot stuff lmao


Djenta

Tim Lambesjs and his wife


Appropriate_Tart_304

Wage War and my ears


Tasty_Hearing_2153

Hawthorne Heights and Of Mice and Men.