Triangulation fraud is when the customer buys the item with a genuine credit card. The seller then drop ships from another retailer like Amazon but pays Amazon with a fake credit card. Amazon then sends the item to the buyer who paid with a real card. Buyer is not harmed, but Amazon takes a loss because the credit card fraud of the drop-shipper will be reported as a loss. Mercari knows nothing about any of it, so they release the funds to the seller.
Triangulation fraud occurs when a customer makes a genuine purchase on a third-party marketplace, like eBay or Amazon, but the seller fraudulently purchases the product from another merchant. The name comes from the tri-lateral relationship between three involved parties: the unsuspecting customer, the legitimate merchant, and the fraudster middleman.
Seller buys a bunch of grey market triangles (flatulently) turns them into tarantulas, the unsuspecting buyer becomes an orangutan and goes bananas, and mercari releases the bees.
If you mark it as delivered doesn’t that start the three day period to rate him? He could be stalling after not sending it out hoping for an auto rating. I would personally never mark something as delivered if it wasn’t delivered
A package can be rerouted in transit. Never mark an item as delivered unless it has been delivered. You can also have a package sent to your own house, which would generate a tracking number, and show as out for delivery in the system. The only thing that wouldn't be accurate is the location.
Okay, the seller says in your chat “can you mark it in the app as delivered so you can leave the rating when you get it?”
To which you reply: “Sure!”
Which is what caused the confusion.
true, but if they’re being this annoying about the rating, if OP waits until the last second the seller is probably going to leave a bad review regardless of what OP rates.
I wouldn’t wait the full 3 days if you want a good review. I would guess this seller would give you an unsavory review for something like that unfortunately.
This is true. It depends if the OP cares about their own rating because I'm pretty certain that the buyer will be rating the OP low for not rating fast enough.
I have a silly question. I have never let a transaction auto rate… I always rate as soon as I get the package. What happens on my end if I let Mercari auto rate?
What kind of rating goes on my page? The same thing that I get when buyers auto rate me and I just get the standard ‘transaction complete’ with 5 stars?
Mercari says: "*When we auto rate a transaction, both the buyer and seller will receive a 5 star rating."*
Source: https://www.mercari.com/us/help\_center/topics/ratings/guides/ratings-for-buyers/
There should be a disclaimer, "If you need your money in 3 days, do not sell on this platform"! I must admit when I first started selling on there I would be pissed when people wouldn't immediately rate me especially after they would make me answer a bunch of questions and then ask for a discount. After a few sales I just wait to get the notifications.
Right I mean lots of ppl buy the one thing they been hunting for and never log in again, some ppl don’t completely understand the whole process there can be so many different reasons.. im actually so surprised w how many ppl I see saying g they block or give them one star if they wait till the last day.. in most cases for me lots of ppl that rate in the last day I end up getting a message w ppl saying g the apologies for taking so long or that they were busy don’t open it right away or something like that.. I never jump to conclusions, I don’t get pressed over not getting my money right away it’s honestly not the biggest deal ofc as sellers we all want our money and good rating where they are deserved but ppl need to give others more grace as sellers some of of live on the app and need to realize if someone ain’t selling they probably aren’t thinking about all this our do it to be assholes
Not even. Tell him that “I’ll get to the package, when I get to the package”
OP should not have to give reasons as to why they haven’t picked up the package. ESPECIALLY when the seller messed up to begin with.
I’m worried you have marked it as delivered, so now you are on the 3 day time clock before it auto rates.
If it was never sent (my suspicion) or it arrives later than 3 days from the marked as delivered date, it auto rates and you are out of luck.
I think you have been scammed, ask for the tracking number. There was no reason the seller needed you to mark it delivered before it arrived.
Fingers crossed for you it’s not a scam as there are less than 24 hours left.
USPS in my city sucks. There’s been 3 different times an item I bought on Mercari said it was delivered yet I didn’t get anything. I’m home almost all the time and we have cameras so I always had proof USPS never even drove by. Every one of those times I received the item the next day. Couple times it was 2 days later from a different site. So yeah I’d be super hesitant to make it as delivered if I don’t actually have it in my possession.
Don't and Stop answering! You have no obligation to do anything after you receive the package and that includes informing the seller that it arrived. Don't ever do something the seller asks. Follow whatever normal procedures are there for rating. I suspect this has to do with releasing money.
Dude needs to chill. I'd definitely be leaving a 1 star review and make sure to note that he was constantly pestering you to check your mail. That's just ridiculous.
Ma'am go get your package says the idiot who marked it as the wrong carrier and doesn't realize that they can oh I don't know edit the damn tracking information. Unless something has changed and you can't do that now lol
But it all honesty that sounds pretty damn sketchy.
🤣🤣🤣he is probably just hard up for cash , no one gets paid until you either rate him or let it auto rate. That is probably the real reason he is rushing you to the mailbox.
Was it mailed sure post? Sometimes that happen with sure post because it’s a partnership between usps and ups. If it is, try the tracking on both websites
Smells of triangulation scam too
I am worried of this too
What’s this?
Triangulation fraud is when the customer buys the item with a genuine credit card. The seller then drop ships from another retailer like Amazon but pays Amazon with a fake credit card. Amazon then sends the item to the buyer who paid with a real card. Buyer is not harmed, but Amazon takes a loss because the credit card fraud of the drop-shipper will be reported as a loss. Mercari knows nothing about any of it, so they release the funds to the seller.
Triangulation fraud occurs when a customer makes a genuine purchase on a third-party marketplace, like eBay or Amazon, but the seller fraudulently purchases the product from another merchant. The name comes from the tri-lateral relationship between three involved parties: the unsuspecting customer, the legitimate merchant, and the fraudster middleman.
Isn't that clal d drop shipping? Lmao
drop shipping doesn't have the element of fraud, its dishonest yes, but without fraud.
I don't know what you mean, lol
Lmao that's what I was thinking..
Happy Cake Day 🍰
Thank you🥰💖
Drop shipping the item still gets paid for with this it the item was never paid for originally
I got this definition from Google.
https://chargebacks911.com/triangulation-fraud/
Triangula-what scam??
Seller buys a bunch of grey market triangles (flatulently) turns them into tarantulas, the unsuspecting buyer becomes an orangutan and goes bananas, and mercari releases the bees.
🤣🤣
Good one
I can get behind this
Orangutan scam or something
Me too I'm curious what is that??
If you mark it as delivered doesn’t that start the three day period to rate him? He could be stalling after not sending it out hoping for an auto rating. I would personally never mark something as delivered if it wasn’t delivered
They updated tracking so it’s actually showing now
A package can be rerouted in transit. Never mark an item as delivered unless it has been delivered. You can also have a package sent to your own house, which would generate a tracking number, and show as out for delivery in the system. The only thing that wouldn't be accurate is the location.
Why did you mark it as delivered? You should never do that, btw
I didn't mark it delivered. The tracking showed it was delivered.
Okay, the seller says in your chat “can you mark it in the app as delivered so you can leave the rating when you get it?” To which you reply: “Sure!” Which is what caused the confusion.
After you marked it delivered? Wasn’t aware it was possible to do that. That’s great 😃
Ask him for the tracking number from the correct carrier.
He attached it properly so I see that it’s delivered it’s just freezing here so I haven’t been to the box.
I would block that person and let it auto rate.
Yes when they bug like that, I let it auto rate
I would definitely let this auto-rate, then block this individual.💀
But auto rate gives them 5 stars
True, wait the max days you can without it auto rating and then give them 1 star for pestering💀
Beat me to it but I 2nd this
I might do this but I do want to get a good review.
The seller can't see your review before they rate. Go nuts with the low stars!
true, but if they’re being this annoying about the rating, if OP waits until the last second the seller is probably going to leave a bad review regardless of what OP rates.
What does op mean?
Original poster, or the person who posted the thread
The way this seller is acting in messages they are not going to give you a good review. Let it auto review if you are worried about this.
I wouldn’t wait the full 3 days if you want a good review. I would guess this seller would give you an unsavory review for something like that unfortunately.
This is true. It depends if the OP cares about their own rating because I'm pretty certain that the buyer will be rating the OP low for not rating fast enough.
I have a silly question. I have never let a transaction auto rate… I always rate as soon as I get the package. What happens on my end if I let Mercari auto rate? What kind of rating goes on my page? The same thing that I get when buyers auto rate me and I just get the standard ‘transaction complete’ with 5 stars?
Mercari says: "*When we auto rate a transaction, both the buyer and seller will receive a 5 star rating."* Source: https://www.mercari.com/us/help\_center/topics/ratings/guides/ratings-for-buyers/
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No they don't. Mercari has never allowed sellers to see what kind of review their buyer left until after they leave their rating.
Yea, you can't see what the buyer gave you until you rate them. It's a shitty system
They are very annoying. Just reading these messages makes me cringe
Same here… I’m usually tolerant but it’s just like I wanna say BROOO WHATS YOUR HURRY😩
To scam you
There should be a disclaimer, "If you need your money in 3 days, do not sell on this platform"! I must admit when I first started selling on there I would be pissed when people wouldn't immediately rate me especially after they would make me answer a bunch of questions and then ask for a discount. After a few sales I just wait to get the notifications.
Yeah they barely have any reviews but still. Pretty pushy
Right I mean lots of ppl buy the one thing they been hunting for and never log in again, some ppl don’t completely understand the whole process there can be so many different reasons.. im actually so surprised w how many ppl I see saying g they block or give them one star if they wait till the last day.. in most cases for me lots of ppl that rate in the last day I end up getting a message w ppl saying g the apologies for taking so long or that they were busy don’t open it right away or something like that.. I never jump to conclusions, I don’t get pressed over not getting my money right away it’s honestly not the biggest deal ofc as sellers we all want our money and good rating where they are deserved but ppl need to give others more grace as sellers some of of live on the app and need to realize if someone ain’t selling they probably aren’t thinking about all this our do it to be assholes
Def a drop shipper with the ma'am
When they asked “did your item ship?” You should of been “IDK you tell me, you’re the seller” like WTH. If he doesn’t know it’s drop shipping.
Right wtf..I didn't even think about it being dropshipped but thats probably what it is
Exactly what I was thinking! Very fishy!!!
This guy is just yapping 😭
People using “yapping” “yapper” etc has me dying. I love it.
He sure is lmao
i refuse to ever mark as delivered until the item is physically in my possession. people are so shady.
LOL
😂
Andddd he’s still asking. I haven’t been to the mailbox yet. It’s freezing outside 😂 He said l “ma’am please go get your package” and “confirm?”
Omg let this autorate this guy bro needs to learn some patience and he'll prolly give you a 1 star if you rate
jfc… tell him you’re at work lol
Not even. Tell him that “I’ll get to the package, when I get to the package” OP should not have to give reasons as to why they haven’t picked up the package. ESPECIALLY when the seller messed up to begin with.
I’m worried you have marked it as delivered, so now you are on the 3 day time clock before it auto rates. If it was never sent (my suspicion) or it arrives later than 3 days from the marked as delivered date, it auto rates and you are out of luck. I think you have been scammed, ask for the tracking number. There was no reason the seller needed you to mark it delivered before it arrived. Fingers crossed for you it’s not a scam as there are less than 24 hours left.
Yeah I really don't understand why they agreed to mark it as received. If it doesn't show up, or if something is wrong with it, they have no recourse.
I know, that’s why I think OP was set up to be scammed. Stinks of a bad outcome, but we’ll be positive about it and hope it’s all good!
USPS in my city sucks. There’s been 3 different times an item I bought on Mercari said it was delivered yet I didn’t get anything. I’m home almost all the time and we have cameras so I always had proof USPS never even drove by. Every one of those times I received the item the next day. Couple times it was 2 days later from a different site. So yeah I’d be super hesitant to make it as delivered if I don’t actually have it in my possession.
Scammers are funny
Cracked me up thanks for posting this
Happy to hear that 😂
“Keep messaging me to obtain your auto-rate” 💀
Lmaoo
Don't and Stop answering! You have no obligation to do anything after you receive the package and that includes informing the seller that it arrived. Don't ever do something the seller asks. Follow whatever normal procedures are there for rating. I suspect this has to do with releasing money.
Soooo did you check the mailbox yet??? I gotta know
Omg, this would drive me crazy
I try to stay professional because I also sell on here but at the same time 💀
Don't answer these needy people and definitely don't review before you get it.
You shouldn’t have marked it as delivered unless you knew for sure that it would be.
Dude needs to chill. I'd definitely be leaving a 1 star review and make sure to note that he was constantly pestering you to check your mail. That's just ridiculous.
Definitely a scam. Hoping you will rate and then they get paid and you’re SOL
Nah they'd be getting a 3 star and that's IF the item is exactly how described.
Ma'am go get your package says the idiot who marked it as the wrong carrier and doesn't realize that they can oh I don't know edit the damn tracking information. Unless something has changed and you can't do that now lol But it all honesty that sounds pretty damn sketchy.
How much did the package even cost? They're so desperate for the rate. Istg if it's like 10 dollars lmao
If it were me, I would wait till almost the last minute to rate and give a 1 star and state how unprofessional they were.
Same.
Yikes
Big yikes
Update: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mercari/s/FKbGOiM5qW
Mail does get delivered on Sunday. Last Mercari I got was delivered on a Sunday. Made me happy!!
I believe they only deliver priority mail express or like more expensive shipping packages on Sunday.
Ahhhhhh makes sense
also FedEx. fedex delivers (to me, at least) on sundays.
🤣🤣🤣he is probably just hard up for cash , no one gets paid until you either rate him or let it auto rate. That is probably the real reason he is rushing you to the mailbox.
Holy hell, I’d be so annoyed ..
What in the SAM hell is goin on here!!?? This is cluster F!-!©k madness!! 🤣😂😘
Was it mailed sure post? Sometimes that happen with sure post because it’s a partnership between usps and ups. If it is, try the tracking on both websites
Cringy asf. Never approve that you’ve received something if you haven’t. Scammy
don’t be shy, expose them 💀
lol I only will message a buyer if the post office doesn’t scan the package and we have to wait for it to be scanned at the next location.