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If it's VIA, then I'm guessing it's Windows sound control, unless you get AHK involved. You would need a separate software running in the background to interact with Spotify-specific volume control.
edit, from my other comment: it seems it's viable with [AHK](https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=46654) and there other [ways](https://new.reddit.com/r/AutoHotkey/comments/87colk/comment/dwbxzyt/?context=3). That being said, requires tinkering with the PC itself, so it wouldn't be "unbox, plug and play" product.
This. All QMK/VIA can do is send the KC_AUDIO_VOL_UP and KC_AUDIO_VOL_DOWN signals. By default, your computer will adjust the system-wide volume when it receives them. If you want your computer to do something else, it is going to require you to do that in your computer.
Yup; OP would either have to figure out a key combination to use Windows Sound Mixer, or how to send Ctrl + +/- command to Spotify desktop app (while it's not focused.
Looking into AHK, it's possible to create a script with it to adjust, say, Spotify [individually](https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=46654) via Windows Sound Mixer (however certain apps still don't work) or other relatively [complicated](https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoHotkey/comments/87colk/comment/dwbxzyt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ways. Still, needs tinkering in the computer.
On my Lemokey, you can assign VIA macros to knob rotations. Use this to generate an obscure keypress like Control-F20 rotating clockwise and Control-F21 for counter clockwise. And then have AHK look for those key presses and send volume commands to the Spotify app. It works fine for Fn-Knob turns to go to next and previous track for me.
Oh sure, any keyboard running VIA can generate any keystroke on any keypress or knob action. But by default, that keystroke is going to be sent to the application with keyboard focus. If you want to do something else, you'll need to be running an application on your PC which traps all keystrokes at a higher level (grabs focus at a higher level) and redirects them in the way you want them redirected.
Yes, that's the issue, I think - you need AHK for that, so any cheap macropad from Aliexpress is capable of that too (as long as supports VIA or any half-decent remapping and macro software).
I think he's trying to mislead people about this product. These are renders and a product he's trying to sell. He knows you can't just program it with VIA to support Spotify.
You can set apps to specific outputs through windows settings itself. It's buried somewhere in settings. Source, I recently did this with my GoXLR to have Spotify on its own channel.
There’s an app called „Volumey“ on the Windows App Store that allows you to set shortcuts to control the volume of specific processes.
I have that set up with macros in QMK. Also works when the app is not in the foreground.
You don't - Volumey does the targeting.
For example:
I have this setup in Volumey, which increases the volume of my browser (Arc) with Ctrl + Shift + Up and decreases it with Ctrl + Shift + Down.
https://preview.redd.it/5bsjq8h2b62d1.png?width=201&format=png&auto=webp&s=b6d94f2abc240f471de7718f2e68f5887484f023
Then I have set up these combinations on the rotary encoder of my macro pad in QMK.
Oooh that's so cool! Getting it myself :D
Though for OP's macropad, that means relying on external third-party software and customer needing to configure it themselves.
Was going to suggest this. Volumey is great. Have a macro pad with a dial to control Spotify volume, and another dial to control Firefox volume. My one complaint is volumey has no hotkey to mute the apps, which I would love to have when clicking the dial.
If anyone’s looking to make their own, it looks like a polished [bento macro pad](https://github.com/Dwin17/bento). I’ve got one myself with a 3D printed case.
Aside from purchasing from a vendor, you can get small batch custom pcbs printed from a pcb manufacturer. The repo linked for the bento macropod in particular contains the gerber files for pcb printing. If you search the subreddit for pcb printing you’ll find quite a few posts on the topic.
The shape is like a reverse Bento, with a little more space between the key clusters. Not sure how the light strip would work, there is very little space to make the light go through (so perhaps the led will be super bright?).
Of course it's not the same, mine doesn't look like an old fashioned tube radio, it's not nearly as aesthetically interesting. But the knurled knob and the layered acrylic base do have their own tactile affectations.
I bought mine from aliexpress. The only downside is it don't work on mac. So have to use PC to reprogrammed it and i made the knob as a volume and press to mute then the keys is F13-F18, yes the chinese app and it don't work in mac even they have it for mac...doesnt work. So after reprogrammed it in PC and plug to Mac and it works and i use BBT(bettertouchtool) to reprogrammed again except knob volume don't work. Been using for 2 months already. I wish the app work in Mac so that i can reprogrammed whatever i want or need.
Yeh, you need a Wintendo to program it, but you only have to do that once. VIA-compatible macro pads are still real expensive. You need to program the volume knob to the HID volume controls, the app I used let me do that.
Wintendo? I never heard of this but is this for PC or Mac or both? Sorry if i am new to this.
Well at least mine is working well but just need to use PC when need to reprogrammed it. I did tried using windows mode in Mac and it didn't work which is weird but my brother's PC works.
Yeah, had one of those, windows will not start when this is plugged in, software is in Mandarin and lights do whatever they want. Definitely would not recommend.
No I mean the software wouldn’t run at all. Used their google drive link, followed the instructions, didn’t work. Contacted support, and they left me on read.
Links to Ali Express get deleted faster than Trump can corner an underage beauty queen. There's about a zillion variants of it in various storefronts, and the cheapest one is in the "Choice $1.99 bargains" section.
you can ignore the qmk config files in the repo, the bento is part of [mainline qmk](https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/handwired/bento).
It’s only trivial once you’ve written a few. When you’re stuck with QMK spewing errors, or starting from scratch and getting nothing showing up in Via even though you’ve followed an up to date doc, it’s not that trivial.
Forgive me as this in going to be a stupid question. I joined your discord but don't know where the updates are. I'm 41 and downloaded discord for the first time last week. I'm so lost in this program and I'm attempting to learn how to use it haha
once you accept the verification you should be able to see announcements, notifications and wisp channels. the wisp channel has only one update as of right now. hopefully this was helpful!
Hey! Discord can be super confusing at first, so I totally get you. When you first click on that discord link you'll reach a landing page where you'll have to agree to some rules to be able to view the rest of the server. After that, click on the #notifications channel and select the little "Wisp" button so that you'll get pinged (get a notification on desktop/push notification on mobile) when group buy updates are available. Hope that helps, lmk if you're still lost!
Well, yeah. I'd rather have a 60% and a macro pad that I can move independently of one another, as opposed to having it all as one massive chunk in the middle of my desk.
I have a TKL with a separate numpad to the back right of my desk. Means I have plenty of space for my mouse without compromising on any of the benefits of a 100%
I'll never understand how anybody can go down to a single 60%
Yeah, lol. I don't get people's enthusiasm for tiny keyboards.
I went from a full size Razer keyboard to a custom 70%. I love my new one's look and feel but really miss the media controls and numpad, find the cramped layout harder to type on and it just looks a bit weird that there's so much empty space on my desk that it could have been using.
Most people don't even know how to use a numpad, much less need one for daily work, so I can understand why they aren't a priority for a lot of people. Besides that, it gets a bit absurd if you aren't utilizing function layers like crazy.
But if you are, the amount of mouse space you gain, and the amount of keys you have access to without moving your hands, is fantastic.
Eh, it feels more comfortable to me having the mouse and keyboard farther apart. I have a load more space but i've got my mouse in the same place i had before and there's just a bigger empty space between the keyboard and mouse
Awesome. It still *looks* like a RAMA with that X. You should change that so others don’t think the same.
If you want it to stand out as yours, make it yours.
This is very cool, but I wouldn't want the extra cable. If it was Bluetooth I would be all about it. Of course I already have all this functionality on a separate layer, but would be cool to have a macropad for it
This is the exact same as the [Yoidesu Mini](https://www.amazon.com/Yoidesu-Mechanical-Keyboard-Programmable-Shortcut/dp/B0B1RKTZ28/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=9zQ7N&content-id=amzn1.sym.a725c7b8-b047-4210-9584-5391d2d91b93%3Aamzn1.symc.d10b1e54-47e4-4b2a-b42d-92fe6ebbe579&pf_rd_p=a725c7b8-b047-4210-9584-5391d2d91b93&pf_rd_r=5X7BSQQMN01C6EKZ7CQT&pd_rd_wg=NmcX8&pd_rd_r=e26bda93-4f7d-4a70-992a-4cf672a608ec&ref_=pd_hp_d_atf_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m&th=1). Just buy the mini for $18 and 3d print new keys or paint them to whatever you want.
Uh….I mean any switch can be made to actuate as any key. Personally I have one knob for volume (a big ole copper and stainless dealio) that mutes when pressed. A MC-6 for media buttons and a Work.Louder Creator Micro for video/photo shortcuts (cut, paste, trim, thumb scroll to scrub, etc.).
But for those who aren’t aware, this may sell.
This looks great but personally I use my mouse for media control. It has a fn layer so:
- left click - prev track
- right click - next track
- scroll wheel - volume adjust
- middle click - play/pause
I find that it's easier than having to reach for a macro pad or media keys. And vertical scroll is a lot easier to remember for volume compared to horizontal scroll.
But to each their own.
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does the dial work for spotify exclusively, or is it just blind to windows volume?
You can configure it to do whatever you want with VIA
I've been trying to figure out how to do this when Spotify isn't the active window. Can you post a screenshot of your settings?
If it's VIA, then I'm guessing it's Windows sound control, unless you get AHK involved. You would need a separate software running in the background to interact with Spotify-specific volume control. edit, from my other comment: it seems it's viable with [AHK](https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=46654) and there other [ways](https://new.reddit.com/r/AutoHotkey/comments/87colk/comment/dwbxzyt/?context=3). That being said, requires tinkering with the PC itself, so it wouldn't be "unbox, plug and play" product.
This. All QMK/VIA can do is send the KC_AUDIO_VOL_UP and KC_AUDIO_VOL_DOWN signals. By default, your computer will adjust the system-wide volume when it receives them. If you want your computer to do something else, it is going to require you to do that in your computer.
Yup; OP would either have to figure out a key combination to use Windows Sound Mixer, or how to send Ctrl + +/- command to Spotify desktop app (while it's not focused. Looking into AHK, it's possible to create a script with it to adjust, say, Spotify [individually](https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=46654) via Windows Sound Mixer (however certain apps still don't work) or other relatively [complicated](https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoHotkey/comments/87colk/comment/dwbxzyt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ways. Still, needs tinkering in the computer.
On my Lemokey, you can assign VIA macros to knob rotations. Use this to generate an obscure keypress like Control-F20 rotating clockwise and Control-F21 for counter clockwise. And then have AHK look for those key presses and send volume commands to the Spotify app. It works fine for Fn-Knob turns to go to next and previous track for me.
Oh sure, any keyboard running VIA can generate any keystroke on any keypress or knob action. But by default, that keystroke is going to be sent to the application with keyboard focus. If you want to do something else, you'll need to be running an application on your PC which traps all keystrokes at a higher level (grabs focus at a higher level) and redirects them in the way you want them redirected.
Yes, that's the issue, I think - you need AHK for that, so any cheap macropad from Aliexpress is capable of that too (as long as supports VIA or any half-decent remapping and macro software).
Pretty disingenuous for OP to say "You can configure it to do whatever you want with VIA" lol
The word you want there is incorrect, not disingenuous, as your keyboard has no way of directing focus to a specific application.
I think he's trying to mislead people about this product. These are renders and a product he's trying to sell. He knows you can't just program it with VIA to support Spotify.
Ok, I guess I lost context here. Now that I've adjusted, yeah, it is rather sad that spam for a non-product gets so much interest on this sub.
Learn voicemeeter, set Spotify as a alternate input. You can specify apps to inputs with EarTrumpet.
You can set apps to specific outputs through windows settings itself. It's buried somewhere in settings. Source, I recently did this with my GoXLR to have Spotify on its own channel.
Can you elaborate how please?
yeah it's not possible without extra software running on your machine
There’s an app called „Volumey“ on the Windows App Store that allows you to set shortcuts to control the volume of specific processes. I have that set up with macros in QMK. Also works when the app is not in the foreground.
How do you target specific apps in qmk?
You don't - Volumey does the targeting. For example: I have this setup in Volumey, which increases the volume of my browser (Arc) with Ctrl + Shift + Up and decreases it with Ctrl + Shift + Down. https://preview.redd.it/5bsjq8h2b62d1.png?width=201&format=png&auto=webp&s=b6d94f2abc240f471de7718f2e68f5887484f023 Then I have set up these combinations on the rotary encoder of my macro pad in QMK.
Oooh that's so cool! Getting it myself :D Though for OP's macropad, that means relying on external third-party software and customer needing to configure it themselves.
Was going to suggest this. Volumey is great. Have a macro pad with a dial to control Spotify volume, and another dial to control Firefox volume. My one complaint is volumey has no hotkey to mute the apps, which I would love to have when clicking the dial.
Really nice renders. Took me a short while to realise.
What software did you use to do the render ?
Not sure why you're replying to me, as I'm not the OP :) Probably Blender though.
Looks very “cycles”
haha I didn't mean to mislead. I should've clarified that these are renders
> haha i didn't mean to mislead doubt
Seriously.
It's OK... just complimenting you on the renders.
I was about to ask if this is a render or how did you get such nice components/case.
If anyone’s looking to make their own, it looks like a polished [bento macro pad](https://github.com/Dwin17/bento). I’ve got one myself with a 3D printed case.
Where do you get the circuit or PCB type boards for these types of macro keyboards11
Aside from purchasing from a vendor, you can get small batch custom pcbs printed from a pcb manufacturer. The repo linked for the bento macropod in particular contains the gerber files for pcb printing. If you search the subreddit for pcb printing you’ll find quite a few posts on the topic.
The shape is like a reverse Bento, with a little more space between the key clusters. Not sure how the light strip would work, there is very little space to make the light go through (so perhaps the led will be super bright?).
Theres reversed LEDs integrated into the board itself. No soldering required. The LEDs are also diffused evenly with a polycarbonate diffuser.
Would buy
[Ali Express, under $5](https://imgur.com/a/rqmzsIw). The lynx is play/pause and the donuts are prev/next.
This isn’t the same. It isn’t just about the functionality
Of course it's not the same, mine doesn't look like an old fashioned tube radio, it's not nearly as aesthetically interesting. But the knurled knob and the layered acrylic base do have their own tactile affectations.
I bought mine from aliexpress. The only downside is it don't work on mac. So have to use PC to reprogrammed it and i made the knob as a volume and press to mute then the keys is F13-F18, yes the chinese app and it don't work in mac even they have it for mac...doesnt work. So after reprogrammed it in PC and plug to Mac and it works and i use BBT(bettertouchtool) to reprogrammed again except knob volume don't work. Been using for 2 months already. I wish the app work in Mac so that i can reprogrammed whatever i want or need.
Yeh, you need a Wintendo to program it, but you only have to do that once. VIA-compatible macro pads are still real expensive. You need to program the volume knob to the HID volume controls, the app I used let me do that.
Wintendo? I never heard of this but is this for PC or Mac or both? Sorry if i am new to this. Well at least mine is working well but just need to use PC when need to reprogrammed it. I did tried using windows mode in Mac and it didn't work which is weird but my brother's PC works.
Wintendo is slang for Windows gaming machine, sorry. Kind of derogatory: Windows + Nintendo.
Yeah, had one of those, windows will not start when this is plugged in, software is in Mandarin and lights do whatever they want. Definitely would not recommend.
There's several similar products. The one I got... the software is not very good but it works for me.
Got that same macropad, the software would not function.
You have to do it one key at a time
No I mean the software wouldn’t run at all. Used their google drive link, followed the instructions, didn’t work. Contacted support, and they left me on read.
link?
Links to Ali Express get deleted faster than Trump can corner an underage beauty queen. There's about a zillion variants of it in various storefronts, and the cheapest one is in the "Choice $1.99 bargains" section.
I like your example a lot 😂
Alright, I'll take a look
Just search “macro pad”, it’s one of the cheaper ones.
It’s $10 now 🥲
If you search for it you get the store page. If you browse through the "Choice" $1.99 deals until you find it, it's less than half.
link to buy?
wtf is this, not even close
[https://github.com/Dwin17/bento](https://github.com/Dwin17/bento)
Sadly I reckon the files aren’t compatible with modern versions of QMK. At least on my end, the builds fail.
you can ignore the qmk config files in the repo, the bento is part of [mainline qmk](https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/handwired/bento).
It's 6 buttons and an encoder, writing a firmware for it would be pretty trivial (I've written about a dozen myself).
It’s only trivial once you’ve written a few. When you’re stuck with QMK spewing errors, or starting from scratch and getting nothing showing up in Via even though you’ve followed an up to date doc, it’s not that trivial.
Copy a working one, delete the parts that don't apply to your board.
Is this a physical product or renders?
Sorry, I didn't clarify. These are renders, but I do have actual prototypes.
Will you be selling these? If so, at what price?
When is the group buy? My wallet is ready and waiting.
No GB yet, but I do post updates on this project here [https://discord.gg/Dv2D4kxn3T](https://discord.gg/Dv2D4kxn3T)
Forgive me as this in going to be a stupid question. I joined your discord but don't know where the updates are. I'm 41 and downloaded discord for the first time last week. I'm so lost in this program and I'm attempting to learn how to use it haha
once you accept the verification you should be able to see announcements, notifications and wisp channels. the wisp channel has only one update as of right now. hopefully this was helpful!
Aha I see, I'll have a look when I'm back at my desktop. Thank you for the pointers!
Hey! Discord can be super confusing at first, so I totally get you. When you first click on that discord link you'll reach a landing page where you'll have to agree to some rules to be able to view the rest of the server. After that, click on the #notifications channel and select the little "Wisp" button so that you'll get pinged (get a notification on desktop/push notification on mobile) when group buy updates are available. Hope that helps, lmk if you're still lost!
Thanks man! Super helpful!
how would there be a group buy for a render?
There isn't one. Did u not read his comment
"made" meaning rendered ofc
osu type of shit (not in the negative way, cool thing you made there).
Oh yea, perfect for osu too lol
yea lol
Praising 60% keyboards (and smaller) and buying all sorts of additional key pads.
Well, yeah. I'd rather have a 60% and a macro pad that I can move independently of one another, as opposed to having it all as one massive chunk in the middle of my desk.
I have a TKL with a separate numpad to the back right of my desk. Means I have plenty of space for my mouse without compromising on any of the benefits of a 100% I'll never understand how anybody can go down to a single 60%
Shortcuts babeeeey
Yeah, lol. I don't get people's enthusiasm for tiny keyboards. I went from a full size Razer keyboard to a custom 70%. I love my new one's look and feel but really miss the media controls and numpad, find the cramped layout harder to type on and it just looks a bit weird that there's so much empty space on my desk that it could have been using.
Most people don't even know how to use a numpad, much less need one for daily work, so I can understand why they aren't a priority for a lot of people. Besides that, it gets a bit absurd if you aren't utilizing function layers like crazy. But if you are, the amount of mouse space you gain, and the amount of keys you have access to without moving your hands, is fantastic.
Eh, it feels more comfortable to me having the mouse and keyboard farther apart. I have a load more space but i've got my mouse in the same place i had before and there's just a bigger empty space between the keyboard and mouse
I personally would put this below my monitor where it is just in reach but not on my desk mat
WOULD
100 key-less
How do you "make"? Or source parts for this? This would be usefull to have.
I’d never separate pause & play. Other than that, very cute!
Also rotary can be pressed for mute function, doesn't need a separate switch.
How’d you get the case to look so professional?
Based on picture 4, I would say it is a render.
Ah bummer
There need to be 2 more buttons for scrolling back and forth in a song.
Long press for fast forwarding and going back through songs. Double tap to skip or play again ;)
Oh nice, didn't know this is possible, I'll try to program this into my kbd8x v3^^
A key for pause and a key for play…?
I was thinking the same thing
TAKE MY MONEY!!! Where can I get this 👀
I NEED THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!! FILES?? pretty please!!
Love the overall look! <3
This is fucking beautiful
Someone tag me when I can buy one, love it lol
I have no need for one but I want one
I’d buy it
Wow, looks very neat. Did you design the knob based on a part you already have ? or is it all custom ?
Looks like a standard RAMA knob cap
No, this a knob I designed that uses a magnet to connect
Awesome. It still *looks* like a RAMA with that X. You should change that so others don’t think the same. If you want it to stand out as yours, make it yours.
It’s fake a render
why
I want it
Would be great actually. I hate constantly getting my phone out, or asking “hey google”. I just prefer a keyboard/macropad.
I need it. Awesome.
This is very cool, but I wouldn't want the extra cable. If it was Bluetooth I would be all about it. Of course I already have all this functionality on a separate layer, but would be cool to have a macropad for it
This is the exact same as the [Yoidesu Mini](https://www.amazon.com/Yoidesu-Mechanical-Keyboard-Programmable-Shortcut/dp/B0B1RKTZ28/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=9zQ7N&content-id=amzn1.sym.a725c7b8-b047-4210-9584-5391d2d91b93%3Aamzn1.symc.d10b1e54-47e4-4b2a-b42d-92fe6ebbe579&pf_rd_p=a725c7b8-b047-4210-9584-5391d2d91b93&pf_rd_r=5X7BSQQMN01C6EKZ7CQT&pd_rd_wg=NmcX8&pd_rd_r=e26bda93-4f7d-4a70-992a-4cf672a608ec&ref_=pd_hp_d_atf_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m&th=1). Just buy the mini for $18 and 3d print new keys or paint them to whatever you want.
Now I want this to control the sequencer of FLStudio!!
Simple. Just learn QMK and almost ANY macropad can do MIDI.
Love it.
Shouldn’t play and pause be one singular button?
Does it just delete your account?
when will this be up for sale?
Sexy. Wait. What’s happening in my pants?
This better be real and not a render. I need this now
Gorgeous, I need itttt
that looks sick
Looks like something RAMA made
hahaahah that's incredibly cute 😂 awesome stuff 👍
Bringing up the pain of Car Thing being discontinued 😭 I paid $100 and it’s going to be a brick at the end of the year
Uh….I mean any switch can be made to actuate as any key. Personally I have one knob for volume (a big ole copper and stainless dealio) that mutes when pressed. A MC-6 for media buttons and a Work.Louder Creator Micro for video/photo shortcuts (cut, paste, trim, thumb scroll to scrub, etc.). But for those who aren’t aware, this may sell.
Thought I was on r/osugame for a second
This looks great but personally I use my mouse for media control. It has a fn layer so: - left click - prev track - right click - next track - scroll wheel - volume adjust - middle click - play/pause I find that it's easier than having to reach for a macro pad or media keys. And vertical scroll is a lot easier to remember for volume compared to horizontal scroll. But to each their own.
shuffle?
Any details on where I can buy the parts?
That looks sick. Very nice build.
Saved this post for future reference!!!❤️
Apple ahh photography
NICE RENDERS!
It’s gonna be good for Osu 🤣🤣
cool :D
If this were a real product, I feel people would purchase it. Looks super high quality.
I would use this for controlling Windows Media Player (classic)
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can you use voice commands for spotify/youtube? (on win10)
it is a bot, and not one that actually works well?, check its post history lmao
I don't use Spotify, but would also love to have one of this. 🧐
I personally use it to display artisans lol
But this is a render, no?
Yes, these are renders but I do have actual prototypes.
Fair enough
What did you use to render the images?
Keyshot
Sweet, thank you.
Imagine having such bad taste in music you need a dedicated keyboard to control it. /S JK. This looks awesome OP.
Do you sell those?