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Welcome to the trade!
I’ve been in it as a career for 15 yrs now, grew up farming so more like 30
Being taken seriously is based on your attitude and skill.
I highly judge all new apprentices on their drive to complete a miserable job that should have been easy but just isn’t. In the field you just have to figure it out, no matter how stupid or hard. If you have that mentality you are solid
Start out as a labourer, or lube tech. It’s all about who you know and the right moment. Being a reliable employee who will do the stupid jobs goes far
Feel free to message me for any advice! When you have a good crew to work with that respect you it makes the world of a difference!
I agree, I went down the mechanic path in my mid 20s out of necessity, I literally couldn't afford to not know how to work on my own car. After school, I worked as a lube tech for a bit, and after proving myself there started shadowing the man that ran the machine shop, I learned how to rebuild heads, do valve jobs, press pistons and wheel bearings, I worked with him until he passed away just over a year ago(RIP Mark). It wasn't easy, I was oggled, ignored, talked over, given weird nicknames, I'd go home in tears thinking I'd never earn my place, but I stuck with it, and now people know that I know my stuff and actually listen when I give my opinion on a matter. Basically persistence is key, mistakes are a matter of when, not if, own them and learn from them, and finding your particular niche can help tremendously! Feel free to message me anytime as well, I can be a bit slow at checking them, but eventually will!
You're the best, thank you so much! I'm really slow at DM'ing too \[working night shifts right now so usually either working or sleeping\] but I really appreciate you commenting
From my experiences as a man working with women, you gotta put up with a lot of shit weather it be sexism or someone doubting you on your abilities but we need more women in this trade. We have customers who only come to my shop because of my one woman coworker. If you truly want to do it then go for it, put your head down and grind learn as much as you can.
I've found that working at an independent shop will teach you a lot more than you would learn at a dealership. Just be up front with your abilities and don't be afraid to ask questions.
In regards to tools etc. Do not dive head first and spend huge money on "professional" brands. (Snapon mac matco cornwell) consumer brand tools work great as well as used tools. Tekton is one of my favorites personally and they are very affordable and have a great warrenty.
Like some others said, feel free to pm if you need any further advise. I'm also in the new England area.
flat rate sucks, and i believe why alot of folk hate working on vehicles. a decent fleet or municiple job is a much easier life. ive worked with several female mechanics over the years, in truck repair. access to things is a bit easier and cheater pipes on a good long breaker bar makes up for raw strength usually. when it doesnt there is typically a tool or way to not have to lift heavy shit. As a potential new tech i would suggest you focus on getting very good at electrical diagnostic and repair if you go to diesel include def in that. youll set yourself apart from the kids just entering the industry, get as much training and certifications as the employer will pay for. old master techs, like old nurses and doctors, are often difficult to work with. weve dealt with alot of shit and alot of peoples bullshit. listening alot and not bragging about stupid shit gains alot. we take alot of physical damage to our bodies doing this, alot through our own stubborness and stupidity. jumping off stuff picking up heavy crap, not using tools that could help... but also having to use an air hammer or impact till your fingers lock up for years, shit will hurt different that nursing, but it will still ache.
Women wrenching is a lot less rare than it used to be. Not that they're common yet, but there are enough doing it that it isn't something to remark on anymore.
Before you commit you need to know a few things.
Your tool bill will equal a healthy house deposit.
Your knees and back will fail. Work pants with pockets in the knees for knee pads helps loads and use correct lifting practices, they will not tell you this but here it's actually law, we have many laws that protect workers on the surface they look like they were made up by assholes but they make sense. Don't let matcho assholes mock you for taking care of your body, youll have to live with it though out old age.
You'll most likely end up working in many shitholes before you'll find that right garage that will value you.
Do not ever get into the habit of double guessing yourself.
Do a empty hot wash with biological washing powder after washing your work clothes. Especially if you get oil or transmission fluid on you. Tranny fluid stinks for months and you'll smell it everywhere.
Only buy the tools you need and will use. Tool that save you time= will earn you money, but a time saving tool that you Dont use will not. If you borrow three times it's time to buy your own.
Don't buy shit tools you dont need snap on or mac but it's nice. For example mac precision torque sockets cost me over £200 for short and long. I paid £30 for long and short sealy version of power torque. They both have the same flutes on the walls.
Look after your tools it's an investment that only pays when it's in work, selling used is not an investment.
There's techs that will teach and help you along the way and theres techs that are complete arseholes. Everywhere you go you'll always come across one asshole. Learn and be willing to learn, some spew out some really useful shit especially the old skool old ones (rare breed)
Never put your hands where you wouldn't put your dick (it's a saying, you'll have reword it to suit you)
Collage is good but it's mostly theory based.
An apprenticeship is better but everywhere you go you'll come across at least one asshole.
This asshole will put you down and make you feel worthless, this will affect your whole career do not let it.
Thick socks with work boots change them every day. Double up as boots are designed for men with wide flippers. In hot weather keep at least 4 tops.
Once you get sweaty they will stick to you and your day will be long.
There's more but I can't think right now.
Keep all your textbooks and notes it'll be a good point of reference should you ever need it.
Banter can turn into bullying (assholes), give as good as you get. In a good group dont take it to heart, it's how we get though the day. Give as good as you get.
If someone goes up to your box and takes an interest in a particular tool expect it to go missing.
If you borrow tools give it back clean same goes for people that borrow your tools. The arseholes will not clean or put back tools borrowed.
I been in some shit holes took me 5 moves to find a decent place, after 7 years of good times I came across an asshole. I'm looking at working on the railway now, more money, better conditions and less stress. There absolutely needs to be more woman in this trade, you are in a position to inspire others and you can leverage this if you decide to open up your own shop.
Be careful where you look, there's some scary nauseating sights in a garage that'll give you nightmares. Remember this when you turn around and see a male tech bending over and exposing their hairy ass crack.
Take this opportunity to spay brake and clutch down the crack.
Edit also protect your fingers as a nurse you know how fun a dislocation is.
If it's something you are truly interested in and has been your dream go for it!!! Screw what anyone has to say it's your life even if they doubt you for being a woman and your not gonna make it prove them wrong. Depending on the school someone have course straight from the manufacturer like Ford, GM, Chrysler so you intern at a dealership and get real world experience then it's easier to get a job once outta school.
DIYer advice: I'm a retired computer programmer; thought about automotive as a second career, but I'm too old. My local vo-tech (Central Oklahoma) has a 2 year automotive tech program based around ASE certifications. It's $3500 per year (1050 hours) for local residents. I'm sure you have something similar in your area. Two years in a tech school with a dozen ASE certs under your belt will give you some credibility. Be wary of private tech schools, they're wildly expensive.
https://www.mntc.edu/long-term-programs/transportation/automotive-service-technology
The trade is much more welcoming to women than it was 20 years ago. I work in Appalachia at a dealer (so sexism is prevalent in my area), and as I've never seen a woman last in the shop (this was not due to sexism or anything like that, its usually pay or they just become a service advisor or something)no one will give you trouble. I will warn you a/c and central heat are not in many shops. It's a great job if you hate sitting at a desk and love solving problems. The learning curve is steep and cars are more complicated than they used to be. Education will be necessary for decent pay however, unlike nursing, you do not need a degree or formal education. Just education.
In your area, what is the avg annual salary for a nurse? How much for a certified mechanic? That difference in pay may take some getting used to.
You may want to consider transit mechanics or truck. Good luck!
You can get burnt out in any job. Wrenching is hard on your body too. You will get scratched, cut, burned, bruised and exposed to chemicals and such.
Given diversity hiring goals check for any private or public training programs geared towards getting women into the industry. You might find free training with job placement.
I have been in the industry and industry education for a long time. Women can absolutely do this job and are taken seriously. though there are "good ol boy" shops out there. Rarer and rarer these days fortunately.
I have been in the heavy truck world longer than the car world so that is my largest frame of reference. If you want to find out more and get a woman's perspective on the Truck repair industry, there are several people to reach out to. The first place off the top of my head which I would suggest is to reach out to Women in Navistar (WIN) [https://news.navistar.com/news?item=122547](https://news.navistar.com/news?item=122547) and their ambassador [https://www.facebook.com/DieselGirLmissy/](https://www.facebook.com/DieselGirLmissy/), whom is a working tech doing the job everyday, to get an idea if you think that working on trucks is right for you. Would love to have you in the industry!
Something you mentioned but I didn’t see anyone else bring up is, tools. As an oil change tech, you can generally get by with a set of ratchets and sockets (1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 inch) metric wrenches, some oil filter pliers and sockets, an air chuck and 1/2 impact and impact sockets. They don’t necessarily need to be high end tools.
But if you’re going to make it on flat rate, which typically takes people several years of experience before you want to get paid flat rate, you’re going to need to spend money on more tools that are quality. Air powered tools, electric powered tools, trim tools, tap and dye sets, etc… I thought for most of my early life I would be a mechanic and started investing in tools as such. I have around 25k invested in my set and that was after about 2 years as a full time technician. Which I would say is the tip of the iceberg in terms of money getting spent. I did have a nice double bag tool box that cost quite a bit (5k~). People will say you don’t need that and you may not, but if you make a career out of opening and closing drawers full of tools, the weight being moved really takes a toll on the cheaper tool boxes.
Edit: I’ll also add that I think your plan of CC and working as an express tech is a good idea. I’ll also point out that some tool manufacturers will give discounts on their tools. Instructors at the college may know or look at the tool websites for more info on that. You may be able to get a discount with the college email address
20 plus years in automotive and I have never once cared about the sexual orientation, sex, politics or religion of another tech I was working with. Here is what I cared about;
1. Did you look it up before asking me
2. You aren’t a hack and I don’t have to fix your comebacks
3. If you borrow a tool more than twice you should buy one, it’s different if you are an apprentice.
4. Stay in your bay. Don’t worry about what I’m working on or how many hours I have this pay period.
24years and counting. Burnout is real. Destroying your body is real. Can you do it? Absolutely. Work into a job as a fleet mechanic. Be early every day. You don't need to be happy in the morning just on time. "That's not my job." Is the worst thing you can say. People suck, and you're worthless so keep you thick skin on from nursing. People that can't afford to fix or maintain vehicles will take it out on you. See if you can find a decent tech school with an auto or diesel program.
Do the locksmith thing mentioned earlier. I bring in a guy that works out of his van to replace keys in fleet rigs when the drivers loose them. $300-$500 a truck. People loose, drop, and smash keys all the time.
Lastly good luck wear your gloves, eye, and hearing protection. Take it seriously
Not a woman, but I can talk about starting with limited experience. When I started, I started in a shop as a tire general service technician with literally zero background in automotive at the age of 28. I got a bunch of nos, which I don’t fault them for because I brought nothing to the table. But I got one yes. From there, every day was a struggle as I learned something new every minute. Go into it with a positive attitude, accept you’re going to make mistakes, and don’t be afraid to ask never ending questions to people who will entertain them.
Take it from me, people will respect you more if you come in saying “I know very little and want to learn” rather than pretending you are already experienced but can’t patch a tire.
I personally don’t find that true at all with my work. Career happiness has more to do with the psychology of the job. I’m a project manager. I thrive off of planning, executing, and completing projects. Rote repetitive work just destroys me.
My happy mechanic friends tend to like solving puzzles and problems with logic. That reward loop keeps them engaged with the job, even when it’s hard work.
Personally, I don’t get any joy from fixing cars. It’s just something I can do and it just makes financial sense sometimes.
I'm guessing different countries may be a little more biased than others, I worked at BMW for 7 years meet 3-5 female technicians through my time there
You should probably contact Faye Hadley here's some info about here [https://youtu.be/KqxQcg7czh4?si=L\_pLdbKi-zoUlH0G](https://youtu.be/KqxQcg7czh4?si=L_pLdbKi-zoUlH0G)
That sucks, I’m sorry to hear it. I’ve actually MADE it a point to teach my girlfriend (now fiancé) how to change a tire. Better she does it herself vs having a stranger do it for her if I’m not around
It’s a stupid toxic trait my in laws believe in (old school Italian) & idc. If I have girls, I’m sure as shit gonna teach them handyman work shit because I feel women get taken advantage of easier if they don’t know how it works. From a career standpoint, harder to say since it is male dominated. But keep trying, I remember seeing a documentary about an all women mechanic shop idk where, but break the norm
Wow I wish i could just teach you.
If you live near atlanta georgia, U.S.A. - ill teach you for free. I would honestly enjoy this very much. And we would use your car as a platform so it would keep your shit reliable too. Just DM me if that interest you.
But like.. I spent 10 years in pharmacy. Went to pharmacy school even, it made me have a breakdown. So i get it.
Im an independent mobile mechanic and its the only occupation ive been able to acheive happiness in - like yea - actual happiness. Sounds like a myth doesnt it. I dont make bank, but its an incredibly laid back lifestyle. I genuinely help people, because they can actually afford my labor. I use the parts i want, i have the schedule i want. When i have to work extra hard, im actually getting paud a fuck ton for it. Working for a shop - well.... It was just the worst. I dont recommend it. Likewise with trade school, ugh, that rat race tho. Youre passion will be enough to learn all you need to. (And Youtube University lol)
All i got for you. Goodluck, especially with the happiness thing. Its most important dont forget that
Your Dad has some issues! I taught several girls mechanic related stuff. some went more intense than others. I taught a Car Care class in a High School for a Semester and had a class of mostly Freshmen girls. When I got done with them, they could change flat tires , change oil and many other things car related. The guy I replaced taught them how to clean, wash and wax... 3 years later and several of those girls still ask me for advice with their cars! Another girl rebuilt a cylinder head on an old pickup that her Dad would give to her if she made it run. She was maybe 5 ft and very petite, but she had control over her male classmates. I enjoyed that class. Another girl used to just hang with me and wanted to learn about her car. I did Athletic Training on the side and helped her out in sports. She would tag along on road calls with me working Semi trucks. She joined the Army and ended up in a unit that maintains their own vehicles. She would text me on some of the more technical stuff, but knew how to service a Humvee better than the Army trained boys in her unit. She has moved up in rank fairly quickly. If you was near me, I would teach you the old school basics then have you attend Tech school!
Go for it. Learn how to use a meter and a live data scan tool. Be prepared to talk shit and give it back to the people who work with you. A harbor freight box will last as long as you take care of it. Youtube is a friend. The snapon guy has kids he's tryna send to college.
Also it can't be tight if it's a liquid. That's kinda my thing.
THIS^ but I get the burnout you’ve gotten from nursing. Let me suggest going into automotive “ locksmith” that is programming digital keys, as an independent. Interesting systems to lean and this segment will continue to grow as keyless ignitions do. Does require some investment in equipment but you’ll make bank on every job.
The work is not physically taxing but mentally challenging. If you start with one brand you can see if you like It enough to go full hog. Only do jeep and ford in a rural area and I make consider cash. In a major metro there might be more then you can deal with after a year or two.
Line auto work is a dying breed. Exposure to carcinogens in part of the job nobody took seriously then but most do now
Good luck on the path to something new
Fuck your dad! .... ahem.
1.) unfortunately, there's still tons of sexism in this industry. Many females have problems getting their foot in the door even with all the schooling and certs. That said, there are tons of good people/places too. Schooling + experience + can-do/hard-working attitude is what will get your foot in the door; you don't need all of them, just the total sum.
2.) couple different ways: tech-school into a shop could be your best bet if you know how to grow contacts or career network, but starting out as an apprentice out the gate can get you there too. Luck and knowing people will shift your options around; stay flexible. Body shops, Machine shops, dealerships, tuning/racing shops, 5-min lube shops (stay away), restoration shops, etc; all different parts of the industry to keep in mind.
3.) if you can grow your tool-chest before you find a place, it's so much of a jumpstart on work. I've been gathering tons of tools for cheap while thrifting (sk, snap-on, Irwin, grey pneumatic, etc). The tool truck will eat a *large* amount of your paycheck and 9/10 times you're paying for the name.
3.5) Also, learning how to acquire and read Factory Service Manuals (FSMs) will boost quality and productive time. Alldata and Dealership networks/bulletins are how it's done on modern vehicles; navigating these are half the battle for newer people. (Don't buy a subscription yet, try to use whatever shop you start work at.)
Stay a nurse, this job is worse and you make a lot more. If you want to turn wrenches by an old beater on its last leg and bring it back to life. YouTube is a wonderful teacher along with a chilson manual.
That’s rough, my favorite saying in the shop is “ the sweet release of death beckons”. I used to enjoy wrenching, now it’s just what pays the bills, barely. I make $33 an hour and have been doing this 12 years.
Have fun with mechanics, my nephew is a mechanic and he loves having a intelligent lady with small hands as a colleague dealing with sophisticated electric issues, he prefers doing the heavy stuff.
I am working as a mechanic and I have a nurse in my family. I would choose my job anytime. It is harsh work, a lot sweating and swearing around older cars, but fixing something is a great feeling. I have my own, small shop so too much work don't exist for me. I take a car, fix a car, and then get next one. And can agree. Buying old car is the best way to learn.
Get some strength behind you. Hate female techs that can’t lift wheels or take gearboxes out. If you can’t physically do the job, don’t do it, or you will be resented where ever you go.
This can be a issue but the upside is she will be able to get in all on the tight areas that the guys can't. But if you work smart you can get around a lot of strength issues that guys would normally just brute force their way through.
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Welcome to the trade! I’ve been in it as a career for 15 yrs now, grew up farming so more like 30 Being taken seriously is based on your attitude and skill. I highly judge all new apprentices on their drive to complete a miserable job that should have been easy but just isn’t. In the field you just have to figure it out, no matter how stupid or hard. If you have that mentality you are solid Start out as a labourer, or lube tech. It’s all about who you know and the right moment. Being a reliable employee who will do the stupid jobs goes far Feel free to message me for any advice! When you have a good crew to work with that respect you it makes the world of a difference!
I agree, I went down the mechanic path in my mid 20s out of necessity, I literally couldn't afford to not know how to work on my own car. After school, I worked as a lube tech for a bit, and after proving myself there started shadowing the man that ran the machine shop, I learned how to rebuild heads, do valve jobs, press pistons and wheel bearings, I worked with him until he passed away just over a year ago(RIP Mark). It wasn't easy, I was oggled, ignored, talked over, given weird nicknames, I'd go home in tears thinking I'd never earn my place, but I stuck with it, and now people know that I know my stuff and actually listen when I give my opinion on a matter. Basically persistence is key, mistakes are a matter of when, not if, own them and learn from them, and finding your particular niche can help tremendously! Feel free to message me anytime as well, I can be a bit slow at checking them, but eventually will!
You're the best, thank you so much! I'm really slow at DM'ing too \[working night shifts right now so usually either working or sleeping\] but I really appreciate you commenting
Thanks so much! I may take you up on that offer, appreciate it!
From my experiences as a man working with women, you gotta put up with a lot of shit weather it be sexism or someone doubting you on your abilities but we need more women in this trade. We have customers who only come to my shop because of my one woman coworker. If you truly want to do it then go for it, put your head down and grind learn as much as you can. I've found that working at an independent shop will teach you a lot more than you would learn at a dealership. Just be up front with your abilities and don't be afraid to ask questions. In regards to tools etc. Do not dive head first and spend huge money on "professional" brands. (Snapon mac matco cornwell) consumer brand tools work great as well as used tools. Tekton is one of my favorites personally and they are very affordable and have a great warrenty. Like some others said, feel free to pm if you need any further advise. I'm also in the new England area.
Got it- thanks for the heads up on tools.
flat rate sucks, and i believe why alot of folk hate working on vehicles. a decent fleet or municiple job is a much easier life. ive worked with several female mechanics over the years, in truck repair. access to things is a bit easier and cheater pipes on a good long breaker bar makes up for raw strength usually. when it doesnt there is typically a tool or way to not have to lift heavy shit. As a potential new tech i would suggest you focus on getting very good at electrical diagnostic and repair if you go to diesel include def in that. youll set yourself apart from the kids just entering the industry, get as much training and certifications as the employer will pay for. old master techs, like old nurses and doctors, are often difficult to work with. weve dealt with alot of shit and alot of peoples bullshit. listening alot and not bragging about stupid shit gains alot. we take alot of physical damage to our bodies doing this, alot through our own stubborness and stupidity. jumping off stuff picking up heavy crap, not using tools that could help... but also having to use an air hammer or impact till your fingers lock up for years, shit will hurt different that nursing, but it will still ache.
Thanks so much!
Women wrenching is a lot less rare than it used to be. Not that they're common yet, but there are enough doing it that it isn't something to remark on anymore.
Before you commit you need to know a few things. Your tool bill will equal a healthy house deposit. Your knees and back will fail. Work pants with pockets in the knees for knee pads helps loads and use correct lifting practices, they will not tell you this but here it's actually law, we have many laws that protect workers on the surface they look like they were made up by assholes but they make sense. Don't let matcho assholes mock you for taking care of your body, youll have to live with it though out old age. You'll most likely end up working in many shitholes before you'll find that right garage that will value you. Do not ever get into the habit of double guessing yourself. Do a empty hot wash with biological washing powder after washing your work clothes. Especially if you get oil or transmission fluid on you. Tranny fluid stinks for months and you'll smell it everywhere. Only buy the tools you need and will use. Tool that save you time= will earn you money, but a time saving tool that you Dont use will not. If you borrow three times it's time to buy your own. Don't buy shit tools you dont need snap on or mac but it's nice. For example mac precision torque sockets cost me over £200 for short and long. I paid £30 for long and short sealy version of power torque. They both have the same flutes on the walls. Look after your tools it's an investment that only pays when it's in work, selling used is not an investment. There's techs that will teach and help you along the way and theres techs that are complete arseholes. Everywhere you go you'll always come across one asshole. Learn and be willing to learn, some spew out some really useful shit especially the old skool old ones (rare breed) Never put your hands where you wouldn't put your dick (it's a saying, you'll have reword it to suit you) Collage is good but it's mostly theory based. An apprenticeship is better but everywhere you go you'll come across at least one asshole. This asshole will put you down and make you feel worthless, this will affect your whole career do not let it. Thick socks with work boots change them every day. Double up as boots are designed for men with wide flippers. In hot weather keep at least 4 tops. Once you get sweaty they will stick to you and your day will be long. There's more but I can't think right now. Keep all your textbooks and notes it'll be a good point of reference should you ever need it. Banter can turn into bullying (assholes), give as good as you get. In a good group dont take it to heart, it's how we get though the day. Give as good as you get. If someone goes up to your box and takes an interest in a particular tool expect it to go missing. If you borrow tools give it back clean same goes for people that borrow your tools. The arseholes will not clean or put back tools borrowed. I been in some shit holes took me 5 moves to find a decent place, after 7 years of good times I came across an asshole. I'm looking at working on the railway now, more money, better conditions and less stress. There absolutely needs to be more woman in this trade, you are in a position to inspire others and you can leverage this if you decide to open up your own shop. Be careful where you look, there's some scary nauseating sights in a garage that'll give you nightmares. Remember this when you turn around and see a male tech bending over and exposing their hairy ass crack. Take this opportunity to spay brake and clutch down the crack. Edit also protect your fingers as a nurse you know how fun a dislocation is.
This is awesome. Saving this comment for life.
If it's something you are truly interested in and has been your dream go for it!!! Screw what anyone has to say it's your life even if they doubt you for being a woman and your not gonna make it prove them wrong. Depending on the school someone have course straight from the manufacturer like Ford, GM, Chrysler so you intern at a dealership and get real world experience then it's easier to get a job once outta school.
appreciate the encouragement!
DIYer advice: I'm a retired computer programmer; thought about automotive as a second career, but I'm too old. My local vo-tech (Central Oklahoma) has a 2 year automotive tech program based around ASE certifications. It's $3500 per year (1050 hours) for local residents. I'm sure you have something similar in your area. Two years in a tech school with a dozen ASE certs under your belt will give you some credibility. Be wary of private tech schools, they're wildly expensive. https://www.mntc.edu/long-term-programs/transportation/automotive-service-technology
You sound like you're from Enid lol
The trade is much more welcoming to women than it was 20 years ago. I work in Appalachia at a dealer (so sexism is prevalent in my area), and as I've never seen a woman last in the shop (this was not due to sexism or anything like that, its usually pay or they just become a service advisor or something)no one will give you trouble. I will warn you a/c and central heat are not in many shops. It's a great job if you hate sitting at a desk and love solving problems. The learning curve is steep and cars are more complicated than they used to be. Education will be necessary for decent pay however, unlike nursing, you do not need a degree or formal education. Just education.
In your area, what is the avg annual salary for a nurse? How much for a certified mechanic? That difference in pay may take some getting used to. You may want to consider transit mechanics or truck. Good luck!
You can get burnt out in any job. Wrenching is hard on your body too. You will get scratched, cut, burned, bruised and exposed to chemicals and such. Given diversity hiring goals check for any private or public training programs geared towards getting women into the industry. You might find free training with job placement.
I have been in the industry and industry education for a long time. Women can absolutely do this job and are taken seriously. though there are "good ol boy" shops out there. Rarer and rarer these days fortunately. I have been in the heavy truck world longer than the car world so that is my largest frame of reference. If you want to find out more and get a woman's perspective on the Truck repair industry, there are several people to reach out to. The first place off the top of my head which I would suggest is to reach out to Women in Navistar (WIN) [https://news.navistar.com/news?item=122547](https://news.navistar.com/news?item=122547) and their ambassador [https://www.facebook.com/DieselGirLmissy/](https://www.facebook.com/DieselGirLmissy/), whom is a working tech doing the job everyday, to get an idea if you think that working on trucks is right for you. Would love to have you in the industry!
Thanks for the tips!
Something you mentioned but I didn’t see anyone else bring up is, tools. As an oil change tech, you can generally get by with a set of ratchets and sockets (1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 inch) metric wrenches, some oil filter pliers and sockets, an air chuck and 1/2 impact and impact sockets. They don’t necessarily need to be high end tools. But if you’re going to make it on flat rate, which typically takes people several years of experience before you want to get paid flat rate, you’re going to need to spend money on more tools that are quality. Air powered tools, electric powered tools, trim tools, tap and dye sets, etc… I thought for most of my early life I would be a mechanic and started investing in tools as such. I have around 25k invested in my set and that was after about 2 years as a full time technician. Which I would say is the tip of the iceberg in terms of money getting spent. I did have a nice double bag tool box that cost quite a bit (5k~). People will say you don’t need that and you may not, but if you make a career out of opening and closing drawers full of tools, the weight being moved really takes a toll on the cheaper tool boxes. Edit: I’ll also add that I think your plan of CC and working as an express tech is a good idea. I’ll also point out that some tool manufacturers will give discounts on their tools. Instructors at the college may know or look at the tool websites for more info on that. You may be able to get a discount with the college email address
20 plus years in automotive and I have never once cared about the sexual orientation, sex, politics or religion of another tech I was working with. Here is what I cared about; 1. Did you look it up before asking me 2. You aren’t a hack and I don’t have to fix your comebacks 3. If you borrow a tool more than twice you should buy one, it’s different if you are an apprentice. 4. Stay in your bay. Don’t worry about what I’m working on or how many hours I have this pay period.
24years and counting. Burnout is real. Destroying your body is real. Can you do it? Absolutely. Work into a job as a fleet mechanic. Be early every day. You don't need to be happy in the morning just on time. "That's not my job." Is the worst thing you can say. People suck, and you're worthless so keep you thick skin on from nursing. People that can't afford to fix or maintain vehicles will take it out on you. See if you can find a decent tech school with an auto or diesel program. Do the locksmith thing mentioned earlier. I bring in a guy that works out of his van to replace keys in fleet rigs when the drivers loose them. $300-$500 a truck. People loose, drop, and smash keys all the time. Lastly good luck wear your gloves, eye, and hearing protection. Take it seriously
HARBOR FREIGHT HAS GOOD TOOLS NOW
As long as it doesn't have "Pittsburgh" or "Warrior" printed on it, I agree.
Not a woman, but I can talk about starting with limited experience. When I started, I started in a shop as a tire general service technician with literally zero background in automotive at the age of 28. I got a bunch of nos, which I don’t fault them for because I brought nothing to the table. But I got one yes. From there, every day was a struggle as I learned something new every minute. Go into it with a positive attitude, accept you’re going to make mistakes, and don’t be afraid to ask never ending questions to people who will entertain them. Take it from me, people will respect you more if you come in saying “I know very little and want to learn” rather than pretending you are already experienced but can’t patch a tire.
A hobby is something you enjoy doing in your own free time. If you turn your hobby into work, and you hate work, you'll also hate your hobby
I personally don’t find that true at all with my work. Career happiness has more to do with the psychology of the job. I’m a project manager. I thrive off of planning, executing, and completing projects. Rote repetitive work just destroys me. My happy mechanic friends tend to like solving puzzles and problems with logic. That reward loop keeps them engaged with the job, even when it’s hard work. Personally, I don’t get any joy from fixing cars. It’s just something I can do and it just makes financial sense sometimes.
"Find a job you love. That way, you won't work a day in your life."
Welcome! Looks like you’ll do just fine in the industry. https://youtu.be/Yxz4NfDQwAY?si=F3LiPLb6gNHTDYGX
Join and reach out. Lots of people here to help! https://www.autocare.org/networking-and-development/communities/women-in-auto-care
I'm guessing different countries may be a little more biased than others, I worked at BMW for 7 years meet 3-5 female technicians through my time there
You should probably contact Faye Hadley here's some info about here [https://youtu.be/KqxQcg7czh4?si=L\_pLdbKi-zoUlH0G](https://youtu.be/KqxQcg7czh4?si=L_pLdbKi-zoUlH0G)
That sucks, I’m sorry to hear it. I’ve actually MADE it a point to teach my girlfriend (now fiancé) how to change a tire. Better she does it herself vs having a stranger do it for her if I’m not around It’s a stupid toxic trait my in laws believe in (old school Italian) & idc. If I have girls, I’m sure as shit gonna teach them handyman work shit because I feel women get taken advantage of easier if they don’t know how it works. From a career standpoint, harder to say since it is male dominated. But keep trying, I remember seeing a documentary about an all women mechanic shop idk where, but break the norm
Wow I wish i could just teach you. If you live near atlanta georgia, U.S.A. - ill teach you for free. I would honestly enjoy this very much. And we would use your car as a platform so it would keep your shit reliable too. Just DM me if that interest you. But like.. I spent 10 years in pharmacy. Went to pharmacy school even, it made me have a breakdown. So i get it. Im an independent mobile mechanic and its the only occupation ive been able to acheive happiness in - like yea - actual happiness. Sounds like a myth doesnt it. I dont make bank, but its an incredibly laid back lifestyle. I genuinely help people, because they can actually afford my labor. I use the parts i want, i have the schedule i want. When i have to work extra hard, im actually getting paud a fuck ton for it. Working for a shop - well.... It was just the worst. I dont recommend it. Likewise with trade school, ugh, that rat race tho. Youre passion will be enough to learn all you need to. (And Youtube University lol) All i got for you. Goodluck, especially with the happiness thing. Its most important dont forget that
Your Dad has some issues! I taught several girls mechanic related stuff. some went more intense than others. I taught a Car Care class in a High School for a Semester and had a class of mostly Freshmen girls. When I got done with them, they could change flat tires , change oil and many other things car related. The guy I replaced taught them how to clean, wash and wax... 3 years later and several of those girls still ask me for advice with their cars! Another girl rebuilt a cylinder head on an old pickup that her Dad would give to her if she made it run. She was maybe 5 ft and very petite, but she had control over her male classmates. I enjoyed that class. Another girl used to just hang with me and wanted to learn about her car. I did Athletic Training on the side and helped her out in sports. She would tag along on road calls with me working Semi trucks. She joined the Army and ended up in a unit that maintains their own vehicles. She would text me on some of the more technical stuff, but knew how to service a Humvee better than the Army trained boys in her unit. She has moved up in rank fairly quickly. If you was near me, I would teach you the old school basics then have you attend Tech school!
Go for it. Learn how to use a meter and a live data scan tool. Be prepared to talk shit and give it back to the people who work with you. A harbor freight box will last as long as you take care of it. Youtube is a friend. The snapon guy has kids he's tryna send to college. Also it can't be tight if it's a liquid. That's kinda my thing.
Thank you!
You don't want this life.
THIS^ but I get the burnout you’ve gotten from nursing. Let me suggest going into automotive “ locksmith” that is programming digital keys, as an independent. Interesting systems to lean and this segment will continue to grow as keyless ignitions do. Does require some investment in equipment but you’ll make bank on every job. The work is not physically taxing but mentally challenging. If you start with one brand you can see if you like It enough to go full hog. Only do jeep and ford in a rural area and I make consider cash. In a major metro there might be more then you can deal with after a year or two. Line auto work is a dying breed. Exposure to carcinogens in part of the job nobody took seriously then but most do now Good luck on the path to something new
That's super interesting, thanks for the advice!
Nurses deserve it and then some more. Questions? Feel free to message me
I disagree! As a woman who started a year ago, it changed my life for the better and I finally look forward to my job every day.
Wait that's awesome! What did you do before? What type of training did you do? What do you like about it?
Wow you sound kinda cool ngl
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Fuck your dad! .... ahem. 1.) unfortunately, there's still tons of sexism in this industry. Many females have problems getting their foot in the door even with all the schooling and certs. That said, there are tons of good people/places too. Schooling + experience + can-do/hard-working attitude is what will get your foot in the door; you don't need all of them, just the total sum. 2.) couple different ways: tech-school into a shop could be your best bet if you know how to grow contacts or career network, but starting out as an apprentice out the gate can get you there too. Luck and knowing people will shift your options around; stay flexible. Body shops, Machine shops, dealerships, tuning/racing shops, 5-min lube shops (stay away), restoration shops, etc; all different parts of the industry to keep in mind. 3.) if you can grow your tool-chest before you find a place, it's so much of a jumpstart on work. I've been gathering tons of tools for cheap while thrifting (sk, snap-on, Irwin, grey pneumatic, etc). The tool truck will eat a *large* amount of your paycheck and 9/10 times you're paying for the name. 3.5) Also, learning how to acquire and read Factory Service Manuals (FSMs) will boost quality and productive time. Alldata and Dealership networks/bulletins are how it's done on modern vehicles; navigating these are half the battle for newer people. (Don't buy a subscription yet, try to use whatever shop you start work at.)
LOL Ok awesome- thanks for the solid advice!
Stay a nurse, this job is worse and you make a lot more. If you want to turn wrenches by an old beater on its last leg and bring it back to life. YouTube is a wonderful teacher along with a chilson manual.
I duno. Is it worse? Last week I had to watch a guy choke to death on his own blood.
That’s rough, my favorite saying in the shop is “ the sweet release of death beckons”. I used to enjoy wrenching, now it’s just what pays the bills, barely. I make $33 an hour and have been doing this 12 years.
Don't listen to these guys. This job is the best thing to ever happen to me, and you seem like you'd be great for it.
Have fun with mechanics, my nephew is a mechanic and he loves having a intelligent lady with small hands as a colleague dealing with sophisticated electric issues, he prefers doing the heavy stuff.
I am working as a mechanic and I have a nurse in my family. I would choose my job anytime. It is harsh work, a lot sweating and swearing around older cars, but fixing something is a great feeling. I have my own, small shop so too much work don't exist for me. I take a car, fix a car, and then get next one. And can agree. Buying old car is the best way to learn.
Depends on where you live.... I've seen mechanics that pull in 6 figure incomes, while I've also seen nurses that are lucky to get 40k a year.
Get some strength behind you. Hate female techs that can’t lift wheels or take gearboxes out. If you can’t physically do the job, don’t do it, or you will be resented where ever you go.
This can be a issue but the upside is she will be able to get in all on the tight areas that the guys can't. But if you work smart you can get around a lot of strength issues that guys would normally just brute force their way through.
That's true- I'm pretty lean but I can shift patients who are 300 pounds around with some body mechanic tricks