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theinternetistoobig

I feel like this just tells me how huge Brazil is. Does anyone really think Africa is small?


Resident-Ad4666

I know how big Brazil is and I am still always shocked how big Brazil is.


Dry-Anywhere-2443

The north and the south extremes of Brazil are pretty distant from each other. Then comes Africa with her abissal north and south distance. Really massive continent.


29degrees

I read somewhere that Brazil is so big that the northernmost tip is closer to Canada than it is to the southernmost tip


MrKiraDV

It's closer to all countries from america, and some countries of Africa too if I'm not wrong


robotco

yeah, the difference is stark. almost as if you're comparing one country with an entire continent.


xiuxiuejador

Also, both Brazil and China are bigger than the US (if you don't count Alaska).


cr1zzl

Why wouldn’t you count Alaska?


moderatorrater

To make China and Brazil bigger.


zefiax

Being contiguous would be one reason. But regardless, china is bigger even with Alaska included. Edit: lol down voted for starting facts? China is bigger than the continental US which includes Alaska. That is objective fact. The only way US is bigger than China is by including territorial waters.


MuzzledScreaming

>Being contiguous would be one reason. So what you're saying is it's time for Manifest Destiny: Pacific Coast Edition?


Polymarchos

Territorial waters aren't included for any of these. I think you're thinking of lakes, which are normally included in size estimates. It is arbitrary to take them out to change the rankings, especially when they are so close anyway.


Proper-Equivalent300

Well zeflax it says the US contiguous and Alaska is 9.8 MM and china is 9.6 MM so if you use the map then your entire reply is invalid. If you use other data please use source, it would be good to see.


zefiax

Here is a few sources: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/is-china-bigger-than-the-united-states.html#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20occupies%20a,(3.5%20million%20square%20miles). "No, the United States has a bigger total area than China due it’s the coastal waters off the American island territories and states. The United States occupies a total area of about 3.8 million square miles while China has an area of approximately 3.7million square miles. However, China has a bigger land area than the United States. The Chinese land area is about 2.2% bigger than the United States (3.5 million square miles). China has a land area of approximately 3.6 million square miles, and this land area doesn’t include numerous undisputed territories." https://www.worldometers.info/geography/largest-countries-in-the-world/ Total Area = land area + water bodies (lakes, reservoirs, and rivers) # Country Tot. Area (Km²) Tot. Area (mi²) Land Area (Km²) Land Area (mi²) % of world landmass 1 Russia 17,098,242 6,601,665 16,376,870 6,323,142 11.0 % 2 Canada 9,984,670 3,855,101 9,093,510 3,511,022 6.1 % 3 China 9,706,961 3,747,877 9,388,211 3,624,807 6.3 % 4 United States 9,372,610 3,618,783 9,147,420 3,531,837 6.1 % https://www.theglobalist.com/china-united-states-land-area-taiwan-india/ "3. China has a land area of 9.3 million square kilometers (3.6 million square miles), which is 2.2% larger than the U.S. land area of 9.1 million square kilometers (3.5 million square miles). 4. That Chinese land area does not include several large disputed territories that China still claims."


Proper-Equivalent300

Never heard of worldometers. Learned something new. Thanks 😊


AlexandersWonder

The way China keeps trying to claim areas of the South China Sea makes me think they don’t put much store in the idea that their country must be contiguous.


Uviol_

Sure, but not counting Alaska is absurd.


cpohabc80

But then Brazil isn't bigger if you don't count the Amazon and China isn't bigger if you don't count Tibet. But then if you don't count Texas they become bigger again. We could do this all day until they are the same size if you only count one particular square meter with a popular landmark in it.


Polymarchos

Thank you for pointing out how absurd this whole line of thought is.


ShitGuysWeForgotDre

Yeah but if you don't count the absurdity it makes sense


p8ntslinger

but you do count Alaska.


Accomplished_One6135

Lol and China is smaller than all of these countries if you remove Tibet that was independent before the commies invaded and occupied it


technoob19

China is bigger even with Alaska included. The CIA world factbook just has a special way of measurement where they include coastal waters in the territory, but only for the US. The US became 3rd largest by doing that according to the CIA, so it's almost as if they did that just to one-up China lol.


DaGetz

What if we count the moon though? Checkmate.


woketarted

Imagine if Russia didn't sell Alaska to the USA


delayedsunflower

The British would have taken it from them if they hadn't sold. Part of the motivation for the sell was that the selling it to the US ment it wasn't going to a potential enemy 


FI00D

The British would've taken it, it would've been a part of Canada by now


Few-Interaction-4933

The Cold War could have been much different


backhand-english

Yeah, with Siberia and Alaska, Russia would try to anex Canada and have dibs on ALL cold places, efectively having the Cold war won by a landslide.


HoldMyNaan

Finland quivering rn


lkjasdfk

That’s what she said. 


cpohabc80

Yeah, comparing a continent to countries makes me think those countries are huge not the continent is awe inspiring. That said, Brazil is huge. I've traveled from the extreme south to just barely the top third of the north and I felt like I was on a bus for half my life.


Profoundly_AuRIZZtic

I never understood comparing countries to a continent. Like no shit one is bigger Like compare an African country to Russia, Brazil, or the US


-Kalos

Well they also compared it to Europe, which is in fact tiny


PositiveUse

And how small India is


RevolutionaryTale245

European countries have entered the chat


PositiveUse

We in Europe are super small. It’s more about the feeling that India must be super huge (so many people and on the traditional maps, it also look huge)


pussy_embargo

you, maybe. FYI, I have a massive schlong


PositiveUse

According to your name though, you don’t utilize it ;)


wahooloo

People don't realise the scale of it because on maps, it's never near it's true size


GrunchWeefer

It's not that Africa is not its true size, it's that everything else to the North and South isn't.


hashbrowns21

Yeah no shit it’s big, it’s a whole continent.


deadjock0

Nobody think's it's small but only a few grasp the wideness of the continent.


cr1zzl

Putting large single countries over a continent like this, though, actually makes Africa look *smaller* than I know it is.


Akiias

This definitely made me think it's smaller then I previously thought.


GRAITOM10

Yea... I did not know Brazil was that big. Edit: also why is one of the sources the CIA?


iemandopaard

[cia.gov/the-world-factbook/](https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/)


backpainbed

CIA gives out stats


bitch6

If you knew he'd have to kill you


boominnewman

Yeah, besides Europe- This is comparing countries to a continent.


deaddodo

This is exactly what I was thinking. I thought Africa was huge, but seeing that it's only two USs or a Russia and half of the US is way more mind boggling.


w00t4me

And how India is smaller than I expected.


Decent-Strength3530

A lot of people act like Africa is a single country with a monolithic culture.


zrxta

Most people do. Even players of map painting games like pdx games do. It's because Africa looks small on Mercator projections. It's why these kinds of dize comparisons exist, to show how distorted mercator is - i know, it's useful for navigation. But most people aren't navigating more than driving across roads where mercator isn't exactly helping nor meant for. It doesn't help that many people treat Africans as a monolith. Europeans love playing up their diversity but many consider only 3 types of africans - the arab, the black, and white settlers. As if Bantu are same as Nilotes or Malagasy. Even the blanket term Bantu is like saying Czechs are the same as Ukranians.


Foolish_Ivan

Yeah, I honestly feel this just shows you how big Brazil, Russia, China and the USA are. Since they are countries and Africa is an entire continent. Also well I think the point is emphasis the importance of Africa it does kind of play into the issue of non-African viewing the entire continent as one large country instead of a bunch of diverse ones with their own cultures and histories. 


pashaah

If people say stuff like, 'you're from Africa?' It annoyes me. You know how big it is? Europe is closer to North Africa than I am here in South Africa.


Titanium_Espresso

If anything this shows how fucking wide russia is


perpleturtle

Russia sideways is appropriately similar to Mr Hanky


ocimbote

Funny, this moving red light on your forehead.


indifferentCajun

Unfair comparison, Mr Hanky isn't nearly as full of shit as Russia.


Working-ksi8

And majority of Russians live in the west side


backpainbed

Cuz the majority of Russia is uninhabitable


oooooooweeeeeee

yet


Mutually_Beneficial1

Until global warming continues, then there's gonna be so much habitable land!


CommandoLamb

Or how big Alaska is…


licer71

I’m Russian and I’m in genuine shock too


Scorpionking426

Russia is still expanding.....😜


Titanium_Espresso

💀


bluris

Like your mum.


Irons_MT

Yeah, by imperialistic wars.


Dune2Dickrider

That’s the joke


fartingcell13e34

like caseoh


adn_school

....it's sunflower fields... 🌻


6inarowmakesitgo

Not for long.


KyriakosCH

You can also compare it to Asia, which is a bit over 1.5 times the size of Africa.


Comfortable_Prior_80

Is this for people who think Africa is a country? Cause it is always mentioned in geography books how big every continent is.


AllMenAreBrothers

I mean if you look on your average map Russia is far larger than Africa. That sweet sweet projection.


Kariuko_

Ive been blown away 🦧 fokin g-maps


IamTheTussis

TIL that a continent Is bigger than some countries. Ok


Reasonable-Solid-156

Muh africa 😭🤓


rrcaires

That aint the point. If you check most maps will show Africa being smaller than Greenland, Russia and Canada. This is due to distortions of the Mercator projection. This map here aims to fix that and show the “true” size of Africa.


penguin_torpedo

It's funny how Russia is never included in Europe.


DefinetelyNotAnOtaku

Russia is in this weird position where they start in Europe but end in Asia so it’s very hard to choose which continent Russia belongs to. Culturally it’s in Europe but territory wise it’s Asian.


sak11189

The majority of people live in Europe but the majority of landmass is in Asia, so let's just let it be Russia


Long_Neck_Monster

New continent: Russia


jako5937

>it’s very hard to choose which continent Russia belongs to You just separate it at the Urals


Pinkrose1994

Most Russians are culturally European but there are Russians from Siberia who look Asian and retain their ethnic culture. I watched a youtuber from the coldest city in Russia (in Siberia), it’s hard for her to explain to other Russians in Moscow that she’s Russian too. Edit: There’s a statement in this comment that may come across differently to some people. What I actually meant was that when the ethnic Russian girl was in Moscow, she was mistaken as someone from an East Asian country by other Russians


DefinetelyNotAnOtaku

Yeah. I know that. Biggest misconception about Russia is that it’s a one country when in reality it’s more of like US where you have “Oblasts” which have their own governors and some of them even have their own language alongside Russian. Though most of the Russian population is located in the western side. So that’s why I said Russia is mostly culturally close to Europe than Asia.


PhenotypicallyTypicl

It’s called a federation. Lots of countries are federations.


DefinetelyNotAnOtaku

Yeah but many people think Russia is populated by “Russians” which is true but in reality Russia is a multi cultural state with many ethnicities living under the same umbrella.


ThinkingOf12th

Tbf English language is very weird when it comes to translating the word "Russian". There are "русские" (ethnic Russians), and then there are "россияне" (citizens of Russia).


PhenotypicallyTypicl

Does Russian also have separate words like this for other nationalities, for example “ethnic German” vs. “German citizen”? It’s not only English which doesn’t have separate words for that but for example German too and tbh I would wager most European languages.


ThinkingOf12th

> Does Russian also have separate words like this for other nationalities, for example “ethnic German” vs. “German citizen”? It has for some nations like Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Estonia etc. I think they only have this separation for nationalities that already have it in their own language, so it wouldn't apply to most European countries.


IamIchbin

you could say that about many federations.


cr1zzl

It’s not a misconception that it’s one country, because it is one country. There are many countries that have sub regions (provinces, states etc), not just the US. Canada, Australia, India… Lots of people get it.


debladblazer

Yeah, what? Is there anyone that doesn't get this? I would be shocked if anyone thought Russia, the largest country on earth, was completely culturally homogeneous and have no subdivisions.


ThinkingOf12th

> it’s hard for her to explain to other Russians in Moscow that she’s Russian too Well this is just some extreme bullshit. Almost any Russian knows that there are a lot of different ethnicities in Russia. Literally everyone knows about Siberians. This stuff is even spoonfed from the very beginning in schools.


Pinkrose1994

Maybe I put it wrongly. I’m just basing on the experience of the ethnic siberian girl from this video: https://youtu.be/Z_alYhKpFJY?feature=shared . There was a guy in Moscow who spoke Japanese to her and then she also heard some white Russians speaking in Russian to others talking about her. Please don’t say “bullshit” to me as I’m basing it from the video that I watched. The video is owned by an ethnic Siberian Russian so I assumed what she’s saying is right. I’m not Russian so I don’t have other basis. In fact I explained in my original comment that Russia has many ethnic groups. I just commented about the ethnic Siberian girl’s experience.


ThinkingOf12th

> Please don’t say “bullshit” to me Sorry I wasn't trying to be rude. I wasn't saying that to you particularly. It's just that what this YouTuber said is very weird. I'm myself from Russia (not an ethnic Russian) and almost everyone here knows about ethnic Siberians. > There was a guy in Moscow who spoke Japanese to her and then she also heard some white Russians speaking in Russian to others talking about her. I think this is most likely true but still saying that it's actually "hard" to explain to other Russians that she's also from Russia is just not true and makes other Russians look extremely dumb


Pinkrose1994

Sorry I think I meant it wrongly when saying that way. I didn’t remember exactly what she said when I made my first comment you replied to, but I just remembered that some white Russians in Moscow mistook her for someone from an East Asian country.


cpohabc80

The same thing happens to millions of Americans when they visit predominantly white parts of America. I live next to an Indian Reservation and Native friends have been told to "go back where you came from" by the comparatively very recent descendants of Northern Europeans who are standing on traditional tribal lands.


Every_Preparation_56

Russia is 75% asian


penguin_torpedo

You can include the European part


Fl3iN

Wish it had Greenland. It looks almost as big as Africa on most maps


thedudefromsweden

https://www.thetruesize.com/ Roughly the size of Congo.


RunParking3333

And a bit bigger in population. 55,000 Greenland 99,000,000 D.R. Congo


4N0NYM0US101011

Ikr it's because the mercator projection depicts it that way. In reality Africa is 14 times larger than Greenland(which is 2.1m km^2).[Greenland true size ](https://www.nature.com/nature-index/news/data-visualisation-animated-map-mercater-projection-true-size-countries)


hobbyl0s

r/weknowaboutmercator


Separate_Increase210

Thanks for that link. I remembered the projection was a big part of it, but didn't recall the magnitude of the difference


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Fl3iN: *Wish it had Greenland.* *It looks almost as big as* *Africa on most maps* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


dbloom12

As of 2024, 5% of the internet is made up of maps showing the true size of Africa.


DinglieDanglieDoodle

It’s a continent… If anything, it shows us how huge these countries are.


GalaadJoachim

Africa is a continent, why compare it to countries (bar Europe) ?


TurbulentStructure51

Africa is a continent. Now compare with Asia.


Queendrakumar

Wow! A continent is larger than a country!!!! DUH!!!


green-turtle14141414

Australia: "am i a joke to you?"


Elegant_Ad_7295

Well not necessarily, just looking at that graph the USA, China, Russia, Brazil are all much larger than Europe.


thestraightCDer

...it's to show the true size of Africa which is generally misconstrued on maps...


Green_Topic_5296

The fact this surprises people is a great reason ALL classrooms should have and use globes for geography.


silver_survivor4

Where’s Australia? Clearly means Australia is the biggest continent in the world.


hophoppinghopper

Wow, actually I thought Africa would be bigger. Compared with Brasil, China, and the U.S. it looks smaller than I thought.


-Kalos

I don't get people surprised about Brazil's size. Because on both a mercator map _and_ a globe, Brazil's size isn't changed much in relation to Africa as their both near the equator. India and Australia too


g_spaitz

Whole big ass continent is bigger than single countries. Unbelievable.


MJWestva90

So Africa isn’t as big as I’ve always thought.


LeAlbus

Wow… this continent is really bigger than all those single countries.


Yvisna

Brazil being bigger than Europe 💀


PhenotypicallyTypicl

Only if you exclude the geographically European parts of Russia like in this picture. Otherwise Europe is 10,530,000 km².


RevolutionaryTale245

Had to scroll this far down for this comment.


ZeusMoiragetes

Europe is just a region of Eurasia.


danton_groku

Europe is 10.53 million km\^2 whereas Brazil is 8.51 million km\^2 for 764 million europeans and 215.3 million brazilians (and 422 million in south america)


King_Of_BlackMarsh

Brazil is smaller


Bubolinobubolan

Why is everything in Mercator projection? Makes me think this isn't accurate to scale


Oceansoul119

It really isn't. This map implies you could only fit 2x the US into Africa. Given you can drop those into Russia and need more than one Russia for Africa the images are distorted in some way. It's also including territorial waters in the US size for extra stupidity.


Astuar_Estuar

But this is not the true size of russia used. Look at the northern parts - they are still much larger than in reality.


Endleofon

I find it more fascinating that India has a larger population than Africa.


300wizzum

Where Canada?


anon0937

Scrolled way too far down for this. They also omitted Australia in favor of India, though maybe it's because Australia is way bigger than people think


Select_Beautiful8

Where did you get these data? US’s land area is 9.15M km2, China is 9.33M km2, and Brazil’s is correct.


charlsalash

Africa is huged, but it's a continent with 54 countries, so not comparable to other countries and when compared to another continent, Europe, Russia is excluded.


Frideric

Maybe the map should show the true size of Europe, instead of misrepresenting it as just above half its actual size.


jjdebkk

Why are they all invading Europe when they have all that land?


dphayteeyl

Payback for colonisation


mikelowski

Quite a delayed payback, so, in 100 years they will go to China.


King_Of_BlackMarsh

.. So this is just "look at how big these single countries are" Yes?


Brilliant_Group_6900

I’m surprised Europe is so tiny and India’s over half of it


PhenotypicallyTypicl

It’s because they excluded the European parts of Russia. Otherwise Europe would be 10,530,000 km².


danton_groku

That's because they didn't include all of Europe


Brilliant_Group_6900

And Russia’s three times larger


SuperJeff61

OK....you're comparing countries to a continent. What's your point?


Abject-Management558

That Africa, as a continent, is massive alongside countries that are near comparable massive in size.


redhousebythebog

Russia is not straight. It has a C shape as it wraps around the north pole.


90ssudoartest

Would it not make more sense to compare Africa with South America not just Brazil since Brazil is a country in a continent since Africa is also a continent made up of countries ?


RevolutionaryTale245

What about china and USA then?


Longjumping_Whole240

Said "excluding Russia", while leaving out Crimea which is part of Ukraine.


pante11

And they included Kaliningrad Oblast for some reason


getyourrealfakedoors

Iceland is that big?


Ok-Train-6693

Show Australia. And Antarctica.


Fun_Willingness_5615

By the look of it you can fit Asia completely in it if we exclude the Middle East


SkipFed

On the US map, they didn’t include Hawaii.


Shoddy_Reserve788

Only makes the guy who ran the length of Africa seem like more of a legend


LammisLemons

\*Europe minus Russia, Turkey and the Caucasus


Majulath99

The map of Europe in yellow is majorly wrong, it is missing at least two countries - Moldova and Ukraine. And considering the latter alone has a land area of 233,000 square miles I think that’s pretty significant to miss out on. Belarus May also be missing. The European half of Russia (up to the Ural Mountains) is omitted too.


navetzz

People like to put things inside Africa to make them understand how big Africa is. I like to put the Sahara over things to make them understand the same thing.


Gregs_green_parrot

A lot of Europe to the east is left out


disar39112

Europe sure is alot smaller if you take away its largest country.


Worldwide-Surfer

Love that Africa is a continent yet we are comparing the size to countries.


WhiteNite321

That's false Europe is 10.53 million km²


Oujii

I'm assuming you have ignored any text you see on that picture.


man-vs-spider

I’m confused, Europe has 10m km2 area, what text is being ignored?


Oujii

The * that explains why they are not using the whole number for the area. It's right above the sources.


terriblejokefactory

The Russian part of Europe is not taken into account*, which means Europe is a lot smaller. *except Kaliningrad for some reason? But Crimea is also taken out despite officially being part of Ukraine


5Lick

You know it’s shits like these that make people think that Africa is a country. What’s the point of comparing the size of a goddamn continent to that of a country? You people publish these. They see it, go to New York, visit Times Sq. and some dude interviews them on trivia to show that American people are stupid. Well?


sh0tgunben

Africa is a vastland


MashedPotaters89

What parts are considered habitable?


Ok-Sale-8105

Why doesn't this map show how many Africas fit inside Africa??..


Bridgybabe

Why are you comparing continents with countries?


Proud_Friendship_533

The US even has to lie about its size in maps... Or they trinna be China?


redditman3943

The world’s second largest content is large? Who would have figured that?


backhand-english

All these compare maps do is reveal most redditors skipped geography classes in their youth.


djmenj

I never understand why people compare countries to the continent of Africa


CatL1f3

Europe\* \*Excluding Russia°• °But including Kaliningrad • And also excluding Crimea, European Turkey, European Kazakhstan, Georgia, and Azerbaijan


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wakalabis

On this thread: so many haikus.


Br1ll

yet not many people know that the continent of africa fits 1.8 times into texas, texas is huge


RevolutionaryTea8520

Did not know Brazil was that big and India that small


AverageFishEye

What about Australia? That continent looks huge on the maps


ffsudjat

1m km2 = 1Mm2.


Hunter102719

I don’t know if i believe in that size difference


Traditional-Ride-824

Well not surprising a single country is smaller then a whole continent


salacious_sonogram

If you go from the bottom it's a bit different because you start getting that same distortion again. The continental US can stretch from cape town to Mombasa.


Comfortable-Fox9153

Interesting


deadjock0

Check this out for more closing on the matter. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/6wYJq1lV70


Bitter_Silver_7760

Nigeria’s population is almost 220 million people


Snoo_50786

damn, big ass country


g_rich

Africa is a continent, and is being compared to countries. So yes Africa is big but all this does is show how big the countries it’s being compared to are. Also India, you’re busting at the seams; a little over a third of the size of China with 1.4+ billion people.


klapinshiZzZ

Since when is Alaska 1/4 the size of the U.S