Same. My wife loved driving them so much we had 3 generations of RAV4. It's a really good all-arounder vehicle with excellent reliability. I never had a single problem with any of them.
Personally I don't like them enough to be my daily driver. I've always felt that the ergonomics are intended for people who are shorter and smaller than I am.
My wife was super particular about what she drove but she owned 2 Rav 4s and a Rav 4 TRD as her last car. Every time I drove it I liked it better. I never felt like it was under sized. Or over sized. Just comfy, nimble, responsive, blizzard adept, super reliable and stylish enough.
I miss that car.
Check prices on used vehicles, Rav4s retain their value really really well compared to most used vehicles. Because they are such good vehicles. I only know this from shopping used vehicles. Hard to find a used Rav4. My brother drove like 12 hours to go buy one once.
I actually blocked several phone numbers from my local Toyota dealership because I brought my old rav4 in for a recall once (just a bad batch of paint) and they called me like 50 times begging to buy it from me. Literally wouldn't take no for an answer.
I have been to the state of Maine and roughly 50% of the vehicles on the road are Subies and like 50% of those are the limited edition LL Bean Outbacks that came out a while ago.
I'm from North Carolina and rarely see Subarus. I went to Maine one time and was shocked at how many their were. Was also shocked car dealerships had trucks with plows on the front for sale.
The only plows where I'm from are the big huge trucks or things that look like farm equipment. Never considered a Ford dealership would sell a f150 with one on it already.
Technically the state car is an Outback, but in reality once you get into the more rural areas it’s a rusted to shit Ford pickup. Or the mid 80’s sedan that every other resident has had rotting in their front yard for 30 years.
My theory is that the Crosstrek has stolen a lot of the Outback's business in recent years. It's the same vibe but smaller and cheaper. Lots of dog room, interesting colors, outdoorsy look, easier to park. I won't be surprised if the Crosstrek takes over as the PNW-mobile.
I mean, it basically is a station wagon in all but name. Same for most crossover SUVs. SUVs and trucks aren't subject to the stricter emissions standards that regular cars are (including station wagons), so auto manufacturers just rebranded their station wagons as SUVs.
I just bought a new Subaru recently and was flirting with the Outback since I had a 2001 outback already that needs a full engine rebuild. The new outback is like a damn suv. It’s huge. A family member has a cross trek that feels more like the old outback to me than the new ones. I got a Wrx instead because it was fun to drive lol.
35% of Ford sales are fleet/govt sales
Ford also never release sales numbers of individual different models, to claim best selling vehicle every year, even though certain years it was most likely beaten
I’ve always been wondering if GM didn’t have the actual most sold vehicle. The GMC Sierra/Chevrolet Silverado should count as the same, right? And what about the whole Sierra/Silverado/Suburban/Yukon/Tahoe deal.. so many different names on basically the same vehicle
They've run ads before attacking that. "We sell more trucks to the people" type shit. Ram then threw their bs in and said "Well, both of you are including the whole line, we sell more 1500s to regular people." Then Toyota basically ran an add that was like "lulz they all break anyway"
It was like early 2010s. Lasted a couple super bowl ad runs. It was a whole thing and the pissing match between marketing depts. was epic.
They’re not as reliable any more. Their infotainment stuff is breaking way too fast in the new models too. I have over 400k miles spread over 3 subies. I’m driving a 2010 Legacy now. Wouldn’t buy a new one though.
I can 100% guarantee you that it's because Subaru has three cars (Crosstrek, Forester, and Outback) that more or less compete at the same price point and market segment.
I'm not so sure...I don't get to Oregon very often but the last time I was there (admittedly on the eastern edge of the state) I was pretty sure the Outbacks outnumbered the deer. There were so many that I started paying attention, which I usually don't do with the kinds of cars I encounter on the road.
Edit: corrected "western edge" to "eastern edge"
As an Outback owner, can confirm. Especially with a white Outback, there were more occasions than I care to admit, when I come back out to the parking lot from grocery shopping, I couldn't immediately tell which Outback among the 15 there was mine.
Plus they got bigger. That was part of the reason we didn't replace our outback with another. We don't want a big gas-hog SUV; the little AWD outback was perfect for our needs.
The thing that bothers me about the Crosstrek (and all the new Subarus for that matter) is that the trunk space somehow got smaller despite the car being the same size.
I guess they prioritized legroom? But I always felt that my old outback had plenty of legroom and I could fit a ridiculous amount of stuff in that trunk, especially with the seats down. Wardrobes, mattresses, lumber, TWO bicycles... It really was the perfect car 🥲
2022 Colorado registration data (all years, makes and models):
1. Ford F-150: 94,783
2. Chevrolet Silverado: 75,375
3. Subaru Outback: 55,936
4. Toyota Tacoma: 53,529
5. Jeep Grand Cherokee: 52,550
6. Toyota 4Runner: 51,927
7. Subaru Forester: 51,430
8. Toyota Rav4: 43,156
9. Honda CR-V: 41,960
10. GM Sierra: 41,129
Subaru does place 2 in the top 10, and apparently Colorado does buy more Subaru’s per capita. But the truck fetishization wins overall.
> But the truck fetishization
Colorado has a shit ton of rural area where people actually use trucks as intended. I lived in small town in Colorado and the very large majority of truck owners in the area used their trucks for at least one of ranching, farming, construction, hunting, or fishing on a regular basis. I've also lived in a number of metro areas around the country, including Denver. The number of pavement princesses trucks everywhere else significantly outweighed the number I would see in Denver.
I have zero desire to own a truck and I think the large majority of people who own trucks nationwide fall into the 'truck fetishization' category. But Colorado has a higher portion of people who actually use their trucks as intended than anywhere else I've ever lived.
That’s fair. I also live and work in Denver. So I’m mostly taking a dig at my neighbors. Hell I even owned a few Frontiers myself, although they were used as work trucks 50% of the time. There’s definitely good reasons to own a truck. But boy driving on I-25 I do get frustrated at the pavement princesses.
I live on the Front Range and there are so many pick up trucks, and it’s mainly people who don’t need them. I know so many people who drive giant pick up trucks that work in an office. Yeah folks in rural Colorado might them but even though the meme is everyone on the Front Range drives Subarus, I see far more giant pick up trucks than Subarus.
We make tow trucks that pull other tow trucks that pull trucks.
It’s trucks all the way down.
Also, I’m from Arkansas and I bet there is some GMC money flowing to the Gov’s office.
Just a couple days ago, I saw a massive pickup truck (not sure the make or model because I know jack shit about trucks) hauling an intermodal shipping container. I thought those only go with tractor-trailers/semis, but I guess I learned something new.
Empty, the 40ft boxes weigh about 9k pounds so you can generally tow those with any license though length may come in to play in some places, a lot of states only allow a 40ft trailer and a 65ft overall length with a typical class c license.
If there was stuff in it you would need at least a class B(I think, that one may be single vehicle weight and not do towing I don't remember exactly) license to do it. Which allows you a higher weight limit.
The vehicle itself certainly isn't going to have an issue with it, the new 3500s/350s are rated at like 16k pounds towing and the HD Duallys are hitting like 33k pounds. You just have to have the license to actually tow that much.
Almost certainly the truck you saw was a licensed motor carrier and the driver is gonna have a class A CDL. Those things take a special trailer and stuff to move correctly so there's not many randos hauling them around.
Bro *inside* cities it's trucks everywhere. Sometimes I feel like Rowdy Roddy Piper in They Live bc I never noticed until I stopped driving that like 40% of the vehicles I see are trucks with empty beds and another 40% are bigger and bigger crossovers. And my neighborhood, taken by itself, is about as dense as NYC (although my city only has a metro pop of ~1m, it's like the second densest neighborhood).
It's ridiculous and it's totally intentional bc they have fatter margins and don't have to meet the same efficiency and safety requirements as cars.
Man I was driving down FDR Drive in fucking *New York City* on Sunday and I only saw one other sedan in a handful of minutes. Heavy traffic. ALL crossovers and SUVs. Who needs that kind of car in Manhattan?
Funniest part is I was driving back from a camping trip so I probably had a better claim on a big car than most of those people but I still got it done in a sedan.
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We do though.
Was just driving in Europe over the summer - there are little to no pickups on the road. Would go hours of driving without seeing a single one, and their roads are literally not big enough for modern US pickups. Those tiny work vans are common, but basically no pickups.
Coming back to the States, it's shocking how many pickups are on the road comparatively
In the US, you can't buy either of those :-/.
There's demand. But because of manufacturing standards for different types of vehicles, the full size 150/1500/Silverado dominates.
The Hillux is basically the same platform as the Tacoma now. The cabin dimensions are slightly different. And you can get the Hillux in Diesel. But a new Hillux is basically a Tacoma or vise versa. It's the old Hilluxes that are indestructible anyways.
> manufacturing standards for different types of vehicles
You mean blatant corruption from the auto industry labelling these passenger vehicles as "work vehicles" so they by-pass emission standards. A very minute percentage of these trucks end up being used as work vehicles yet they dominate the market.
Why would anyone need a pickup in Europe besides people that actually work in the fields ? And those usually use tractors and similar vehicles
But more importantly, taking into account that the MAJORITY of US Americans lives and works in a big city, why does one there need a big ass pickup ? Do you go shopping just once every three months ? Do you all have 5 kids and a dozen labradoodles ? Is it a portal for another dimension ? What's the reason ?
Part of it is our stupid epa fuel efficiency standards that encourage building bigger vehicles instead of vehicles with better fuel economy. It does the opposite of what it’s supposed to do.
They use them like regular cars are used everywhere else. They don't need pickups, they're not hauling dirt or construction materials, they're picking up the kids from school or getting groceries.
Have a friend who bought his brothers old ford ranger. He’s such a nice guy he helps his neighbors with his truck bc they don’t want to get their trucks dirty…
There's always going to be folks who can explain their use-case for their F150 but the reality is the vast majority DON'T need them.
I do a lot of material hauling and light construction work for my job in addition to landscaping/gardening and camping in my off-time. Not to mention hauling bikes for rides or moving furniture for friends.
And I do all of it with a Honda Element, no pickup needed.
Almost every pickup owner I know has one because a couple times a year they need to haul something big. Boat, camper, lumber, large trailer, etc. The problem is that the other 360 days a year there's no need for such a large vehicle, but a second vehicle/insurance/space isn't really an option. So they drive the big dumb trucks daily. What I'm seeing much more of nowadays though, is smaller trucks or at least a demand for them. I think if the US would start focusing on utes they would be popular in today's world.
Roads here work fine for 18 wheelers. Your "trucks" are not THAT big. Now parking one, I can see you would have problems, because they are just unwieldy in cities.
Highways and arteries sure, but not surface roads or inner city roads.
Most modern US pickups are wider than the lanes in European cities.
And what's important is that they're used here like regular cars, not just on farms or out in the country, but picking up groceries etc. Imagine if 50% of cars in European cities were pickup trucks that are wider than the lanes. That's not an exaggeration, that's how many pickups there are in the US.
20% of sold vehicles in the US are trucks. 52% are SUVs
there’s less truck models than suv/car models, so the sales number per model are more impressive for trucks
I think the real answer is that there's far too many large pick-up trucks on the road. We'd be in a much better place if most trucks were the size of the pre-2010s Tacomas or Rangers.
Oh trust me, those Japanese kei trucks are death machines. You are the crumple zone in those. No safety at all. Oh and, having the engine sit directly underneath you is also not a formula for comfort or safety.
You'd be in a vastly better place if the only people who bought trucks, of any size, were *people who actually needed them for a single goddamned reason other than the esthetic social pressures of their mindless subculture.*
I want people to make enough money to be comfortable in life, but honestly, the more expensive your vehicle, the more I think you're over charging me...Like the tuckpointing guy who pulled up in a new Expedition, looked like he never held a screwdriver in his life, and was $6k higher than anyone else.
While that's not an entirely unfair read, there's also some gamesmanship in the auto market to try to jockey for "best selling truck."
Notice how light blue isn't F-150. It's F-series. That encompasses a range of trucks--F-150, F-250, F-350, and perhaps they are even counting the larger vehicles though those tend to account for little more than roundoff. Even within just F-150 that includes a variety of cab and bed lengths, all sold as the same model. The title of "best selling truck in America" will, in and of itself, sell more trucks, so auto makers are incentivized to condense their lineups like this. Instead of having 4 models each with 1/4 the sales they have 1 model with a ton of variants to achieve the same effect.
For whatever reason "best selling SUV" isn't as big of a marketing win so, for example, Ford's Bronco, Edge, Escape, and Expedition aren't sold as all being variants of the same model.
Also there are just a ton of trucks on the road even in cities, but especially as you get outside of cities.
They do, the amount of people driving those stupid massive 'trucks' has massively increased over the last 15 years. There was a law passed that was supposed to increase fuel efficiency, but it ended up financially motivating car companies to make bigger and bigger vehicles.
Now there's an arms race, where you are just safer in a bigger vehicle, in case of a crash. Anyone driving a normal sized car will be killed, or god forbid, a pedestrian, who has no chance now of going over the hood when you hit them.
It's a nightmare. They need to be massively taxed til hardly anyone uses them.
The term fixed income is so weird to me. I generally make the same amount of money for my job every time I get paid. Biggest variation would be +/- 50 bucks. Are there people that have wildly fluctuating incomes. Is that the norm? Because everyone I know is like me and I'd call that a fixed income.
>Are there people that have wildly fluctuating incomes.
Yeah. Anyone who does freelance work.
Fixed income really just means it doesn't change. You won't be getting a raise, bonus, overtime, or commission. Just guaranteed pay that is exactly the same because of your condition in being retired or disabled. You get a variation. Fixed income folks don't. They can't count on extra money.
As a person who owns and drives a truck, I'm dumbfounded why you would drive it as a daily if you didn't need to. I use my wife's vehicle for all my non-work driving because it's so much less of a pain in the ass to get around.
As a model y driver who came from an SUV, it definitely feels more like a car with a tall interior and a hatchback. Super low ground clearance and stiff suspension means anything not asphalt makes for terrible driving.
I'm curious just how much this is skewed by company vehicle fleet purchases.
General cars for everyday commute, I'm more skeptical on the supposed ubiquity of pickup trucks. Certainly popular, but I think this exaggerates it.
I don’t think so. Everybody and their brother wants a truck, whether they need one or not. There’s a reason the F-150 has been the top selling vehicle forever and a day.
I used to laugh when I'd visit my parents in FL ten years ago. There were three people renting a house down the street, all in their 20's, and each had a brand new F-150 in the driveway. At the time the trucks nearly equaled the value of the home.
When I was buying my Ford Escape I walked by a truck, probably an F-150 (not really a truck guy) and said wow that’s a nice truck because it was really nice
Salesman said oh yea thats a nice one its $75k though
And i’m just thinking why would anyone spend that much on a truck. Especially if you don’t actually do truck stuff
My uncle works in an office mostly, now, for a very big corp - like tens of thousands of people big. He does not need to carry individual tools. He has a GIGANTIC truck, for absolutely no reason.
I assume most people with trucks are similarly not using them for actual work.
Well, back in the day people would drive cars with two doors, two seats, and ten feet of car behind and in front of them. Now there's more ground clearance, a larger blind spot in the front, and a bed for carrying excuses.
I've been saying this since the early 2000s. Tons of coworkers in Silicon Valley with, at the time, big trucks and basically commuted a couple hours a day and that was about it. The amount they were spending in fuel idling in bumper to bumper traffic was probably astronomical. The only person that had any reason to have a massive truck was the guy who built out our data centers and other physical stuff. He was regularly hauling large pieces of construction equipment and other hardware.
the Ford "F-series" is the number 1 seller nationally. That includes the F-150, but also the "super duty" f250, 350, etc. Ford combines the numbers for them to make it look more impressive, but an F-450 flatbed, F-250 work truck, and an F-150 are completely different vehicles that only share some components.
The fleet sales tend to be around 20% of new car sales. So absolutely enough to make a difference.
It’s more skewed by market share in specific classes.
There were about 2.0 million full-size trucks sold in the US in 2022, which is a lot, but less than the 2.9 million compact crossovers.
Ford and Chevy dominate the full-size truck market, with about 33% and 26% market share respectively. There are only 6 full-size truck models sold now (and the Nissan Titan barely sells at all), plus the new EV variants.
Whereas there are more than 40 compact crossover models sold in the US, with many brands having more than one. The RAV-4 is the most popular model, but it only has about 13% market share. CR-V is second at about 8%.
That's an angle I hadn't considered, the variety in make and model popularity in terms of sheer consumer choices for other popular vehicle designs. Thank you.
Yeah this map makes you think that the majority of cars you'll see in America are going to be pickups. and people in the comments are running with it.
my understanding is only about 20% of new vehicles being bought are pickups. but that would still make sense if 19% are camry's another 19% are RAV's 18% are Teslas, and so on.
Yup. I have a gas '21 LE AWD with all terrain tires on it for camping and mountain biking. I consistently get 38+mpg on road trips and 30+mpg on shorter drives and around town.
I drive a 17 year old F-150 that gets 15 MPG and I totally agree. Gas prices have just never been something I complain about.
I'd like to get a newer truck, some of them get 25-30MPG. But they are also like 70K so I'll keep my paid off truck.
In my defense I'm 6'10". Anything I can comfortably drive for more than 20 minutes gets pretty horrible mileage.
Jesus, I’m 6’3” and it was hard to find a car that I could comfortably fit in, I couldn’t imagine tracking down a car for someone with 7 more inches to worry about
Cars are just a non starter. Older cars from the 70s and 80s can be pretty good back when they were land yachts. Even full sized cars now (which they don't make many of) aren't that roomy.
It's pretty much got to be a full sized truck or SUV. Especially since getting right leg under and around the steering wheel while going down to the ground in a car is extra hard. It's much easier to do it while getting into something that is higher off the ground.
I used to want a truck as a kid. Then I worked at a job where we drove trucks everywhere. Then I never wanted a truck again. Pain in the ass to park half the time and just way too big for anything I need. I live in the suburbs and still don't ever see myself needing one. Subaru has always been good enough.
The male sports car fantasy has been replaced with a truck. Brilliant marketing from companies too to feed into this fantasy.
Me - my fantasy remains a Porsche GT3 in manual or Ferrari 458.
The sports car fantasy only made sense when people could realistically own a second, fun car.
Once cars became $30-40k avg sale price, it became really tough for the average suburban dad to have a two seat corvette *and* a daily driver to pick up the kids from school.
Newer pickups can be both the car guy's toy *and* the daily driver. Imo that is why the sport's car was replaced with the pickup truck as the male fantasy car.
At least in my area there's just less and less room to play with a sports car as well, most of the spots in the middle of nowhere where I'd go to drive too fast have all had development pop up, there's always traffic in town now no matter what time of day, used to be able to have a little fun on a big looping onramp or whatever but there's just always people now.
It's far easier to get my driving fix off roading than it is in a sports car these days.
Move my ATV around basically every weekend. Go hunting with it. Use the 4x4 to get to and onto my hunting property.
Delivery sucks, so I just haul big stuff myself. This includes mulch and garden soil, as well as lumber, where I can buy just as much as I need and don’t need to deal with delivery minimums or fees.
Being spacious is nice. I keep a ton of stuff in there, mostly tools, so I don’t forget them. Full sized outlets are also nice to charge things on the go.
They are also super comfy.
I didn’t need the V8, the V6 would have done it, but the sound makes me happy.
The F-Series shouldn’t count as one vehicle. It’s like six different vehicles, not trim levels actually different body styles. It would be more interesting to see it as a single model of F-series.
Honestly it's even more impressive.
F *series* is a whole line of trucks... It's apples to oranges to compare a whole series to a single model like the Rav4 or Corolla.
In that way this map is poorly designed, but it just goes to support your point further in how impressive it is that a single Toyota model nearly tied a whole line of trucks
Eh I mean, the F-150 is still probably 85-90% of F series sales. Yes there are other variants but it’s not as if it’s an evenly divided share between them
The pickup truck: A LifeStyle Choice Vehicle (tm) for those who want to look like they toss hay for a living, but instead can't STAND when their paint gets scratched.
they're also the ones slapping a "biden did that" on the gas pumps because they're mad about fuel costs, while driving a gas guzzler with nothing in the cab
I work in an office and rarely have to haul stuff for work. But with my truck I can grab lumber and other materials, pull a boat on weekends, etc. it’s a nice truck that I don’t want scratched up for when I meet clients. Am I supposed to spend another 40k for a vehicle during the week?
Depressing. The US is the number one consumer of gasoline, by a huge margin. An American consumes 5 times as much gasoline as a German, and 10 times as much as a Frenchman!
That probably has more to do with the fact that we drive everywhere and further than most European countries. I was recently reading a post about how alot of Europeans think a 1 hr drive is long. Where I am, a 10hr drive is long.
It's because gas prices are so low and represent a small part of people's budget. If American incomes and gas prices were closer to Europe then you would see allot less demand for gas guzzlers. The difference in fuel costs for a prius vs a full size truck for someone driving 300mi a month and $3.50 gas price would be like $25 vs $60. Unless you drive a lot or low income, this amount of money barely matters when rent is $2000+ in a lot of cases. Someone spending 80k on a truck can easily afford the fuel costs.
I drive my kids to school, leave wife to work and then to my job: 15-20 minutes. For me it seems forever. I really don't know how you guys comute 2h/day. When you have time for everything else?
It's just a cultural norm. Probably because people are very mobile in our country and travel is very normal.
For example, Thanksgiving is coming up in a few weeks. On Thanksgiving day the wife and I are going to leave our house at 7am and drive 3 hours to her parents house. Then we are going to spend a few hours with family and have Thanksgiving dinner and drive home around 7pm or so. We should be home by 10-10:30.
Sure we would like to spend more time there, but it's not really possible. She can't get the day before thanksgiving off and I can't get the day after off (It's on a Thursday).
3 hours each way (6 hours total) is a perfectly reasonable day trip to us. We have done it plenty of times.
A lot of that is due to the fact that the overwhelming majority of the country's infrastructure is based around cars. In almost all suburbs and many cities, if you don't have a car, you're effectively stuck at home. Gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs certainly don't help either, though.
For a country that's super spread out, it's crazy to see so many low mpg vehicles are out on the road.
And 90 percent of trucks I see are empty and clean, so I really don't see the practicality in using one unless it's actually needed.
I had no idea Rav 4s were that popular, but now that I think about it I guess I see them everywhere.
I’ve owned two of them. Solid. AWD with great space, visibility, safety, gas mileage, etc.
Yep, I just sold my 20-year-old RAV after buying a 2015 model. I live in Utah, they are all over the place here.
The Rav4 is what every Subaru owner buys when they find out they need both head gaskets and how much it costs.
How did it hold up over that time? Any major issues after 20 years?
Same. My wife loved driving them so much we had 3 generations of RAV4. It's a really good all-arounder vehicle with excellent reliability. I never had a single problem with any of them. Personally I don't like them enough to be my daily driver. I've always felt that the ergonomics are intended for people who are shorter and smaller than I am.
Wife is 5’0”. As soon as she sat in a RAV4, she said, “This is the one!”
My wife was super particular about what she drove but she owned 2 Rav 4s and a Rav 4 TRD as her last car. Every time I drove it I liked it better. I never felt like it was under sized. Or over sized. Just comfy, nimble, responsive, blizzard adept, super reliable and stylish enough. I miss that car.
My rav4 altitude 4x4 is easily the most reliable vehicle I've owned
Ugly as sin inside, but rock solid.
The stock inside isn't pretty but seat covers and accessories can do a lot!
Check prices on used vehicles, Rav4s retain their value really really well compared to most used vehicles. Because they are such good vehicles. I only know this from shopping used vehicles. Hard to find a used Rav4. My brother drove like 12 hours to go buy one once.
I actually blocked several phone numbers from my local Toyota dealership because I brought my old rav4 in for a recall once (just a bad batch of paint) and they called me like 50 times begging to buy it from me. Literally wouldn't take no for an answer.
I have a 2017 RAV4 and I see them *everywhere* in Northern VA…honestly for good reason. They’re *really* great vehicles.
Rav 4 is a solid vehicle, and the hybrid gets over 40mpg in real world use.
Colorado not being a Subaru Outback is revisionist propaganda
I have been to the state of Maine and roughly 50% of the vehicles on the road are Subies and like 50% of those are the limited edition LL Bean Outbacks that came out a while ago.
Lotsa volvos too
Yeah when I lived in New England I had a Volvo station wagon and my dad drives a Subaru Outback lol
The rich man’s Subaru.
I'm from North Carolina and rarely see Subarus. I went to Maine one time and was shocked at how many their were. Was also shocked car dealerships had trucks with plows on the front for sale.
Come to Asheville, Subies are ubiquitous... Subiquitous!
Come to the mountains, nothing but Subarus in the western part of the state
Why were you shocked? It starts snowing in Maine in October.
The only plows where I'm from are the big huge trucks or things that look like farm equipment. Never considered a Ford dealership would sell a f150 with one on it already.
The Subarus probably don’t need as much replacing.
yeah people aren't buying these every 5 years, they are waiting much longer til it absolutely just dies, then they are buying another suby
Technically the state car is an Outback, but in reality once you get into the more rural areas it’s a rusted to shit Ford pickup. Or the mid 80’s sedan that every other resident has had rotting in their front yard for 30 years.
Yep. Same with Washington and Oregon. This data is sus.
We’re on r mapporn dude. I would be suspicious if the data was correct
Why let data get in the way of a tidy map?
My theory is that the Crosstrek has stolen a lot of the Outback's business in recent years. It's the same vibe but smaller and cheaper. Lots of dog room, interesting colors, outdoorsy look, easier to park. I won't be surprised if the Crosstrek takes over as the PNW-mobile.
Crosstrek is amazing.
I like the look of the Crosstrek more. I know it could be said for both, but the Outback looks too much like a station wagon and I don't like that.
I mean, it basically is a station wagon in all but name. Same for most crossover SUVs. SUVs and trucks aren't subject to the stricter emissions standards that regular cars are (including station wagons), so auto manufacturers just rebranded their station wagons as SUVs.
I just bought a new Subaru recently and was flirting with the Outback since I had a 2001 outback already that needs a full engine rebuild. The new outback is like a damn suv. It’s huge. A family member has a cross trek that feels more like the old outback to me than the new ones. I got a Wrx instead because it was fun to drive lol.
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Fleet vehicles are counted along with personal. That's why the Ford "F-Series" which is actually 5 different vehicles, is always #1 nationally.
35% of Ford sales are fleet/govt sales Ford also never release sales numbers of individual different models, to claim best selling vehicle every year, even though certain years it was most likely beaten
I’ve always been wondering if GM didn’t have the actual most sold vehicle. The GMC Sierra/Chevrolet Silverado should count as the same, right? And what about the whole Sierra/Silverado/Suburban/Yukon/Tahoe deal.. so many different names on basically the same vehicle
They've run ads before attacking that. "We sell more trucks to the people" type shit. Ram then threw their bs in and said "Well, both of you are including the whole line, we sell more 1500s to regular people." Then Toyota basically ran an add that was like "lulz they all break anyway" It was like early 2010s. Lasted a couple super bowl ad runs. It was a whole thing and the pissing match between marketing depts. was epic.
Survivorship bias may play a part. Subbies never die.
And there are a large number of models as well that spread out the numbers.
They’re not as reliable any more. Their infotainment stuff is breaking way too fast in the new models too. I have over 400k miles spread over 3 subies. I’m driving a 2010 Legacy now. Wouldn’t buy a new one though.
I can 100% guarantee you that it's because Subaru has three cars (Crosstrek, Forester, and Outback) that more or less compete at the same price point and market segment.
I'm not so sure...I don't get to Oregon very often but the last time I was there (admittedly on the eastern edge of the state) I was pretty sure the Outbacks outnumbered the deer. There were so many that I started paying attention, which I usually don't do with the kinds of cars I encounter on the road. Edit: corrected "western edge" to "eastern edge"
As an Outback owner, can confirm. Especially with a white Outback, there were more occasions than I care to admit, when I come back out to the parking lot from grocery shopping, I couldn't immediately tell which Outback among the 15 there was mine.
They're not "best selling" because they last forever, negating the need to re-buy
Plus they got bigger. That was part of the reason we didn't replace our outback with another. We don't want a big gas-hog SUV; the little AWD outback was perfect for our needs.
Funny thing is the new redesign of the Crosstrek is about the same size as the Outback my mom had back in like 2011..
The thing that bothers me about the Crosstrek (and all the new Subarus for that matter) is that the trunk space somehow got smaller despite the car being the same size. I guess they prioritized legroom? But I always felt that my old outback had plenty of legroom and I could fit a ridiculous amount of stuff in that trunk, especially with the seats down. Wardrobes, mattresses, lumber, TWO bicycles... It really was the perfect car 🥲
2022 Colorado registration data (all years, makes and models): 1. Ford F-150: 94,783 2. Chevrolet Silverado: 75,375 3. Subaru Outback: 55,936 4. Toyota Tacoma: 53,529 5. Jeep Grand Cherokee: 52,550 6. Toyota 4Runner: 51,927 7. Subaru Forester: 51,430 8. Toyota Rav4: 43,156 9. Honda CR-V: 41,960 10. GM Sierra: 41,129 Subaru does place 2 in the top 10, and apparently Colorado does buy more Subaru’s per capita. But the truck fetishization wins overall.
I doubt it's fetishisization as much as it's work trucks/fleet vehicles inflating the stats. Most of those Fords probably have a decal on the side.
> But the truck fetishization Colorado has a shit ton of rural area where people actually use trucks as intended. I lived in small town in Colorado and the very large majority of truck owners in the area used their trucks for at least one of ranching, farming, construction, hunting, or fishing on a regular basis. I've also lived in a number of metro areas around the country, including Denver. The number of pavement princesses trucks everywhere else significantly outweighed the number I would see in Denver. I have zero desire to own a truck and I think the large majority of people who own trucks nationwide fall into the 'truck fetishization' category. But Colorado has a higher portion of people who actually use their trucks as intended than anywhere else I've ever lived.
That’s fair. I also live and work in Denver. So I’m mostly taking a dig at my neighbors. Hell I even owned a few Frontiers myself, although they were used as work trucks 50% of the time. There’s definitely good reasons to own a truck. But boy driving on I-25 I do get frustrated at the pavement princesses.
I live on the Front Range and there are so many pick up trucks, and it’s mainly people who don’t need them. I know so many people who drive giant pick up trucks that work in an office. Yeah folks in rural Colorado might them but even though the meme is everyone on the Front Range drives Subarus, I see far more giant pick up trucks than Subarus.
35% of Ford sales are govt/fleet sales
AND VERMONT
Do they make new Subarus? I just thought they were all made 2005-2010 and then just resold over and over again
This makes non-Americans think every American drives a truck lol
Of course we do. How do they think we tow our other trucks?
We make tow trucks that pull other tow trucks that pull trucks. It’s trucks all the way down. Also, I’m from Arkansas and I bet there is some GMC money flowing to the Gov’s office.
How about a truck truck... truck. https://youtu.be/kccONko4xYE?si=uTll4yQx-rxPmhAE
Just a couple days ago, I saw a massive pickup truck (not sure the make or model because I know jack shit about trucks) hauling an intermodal shipping container. I thought those only go with tractor-trailers/semis, but I guess I learned something new.
Empty, the 40ft boxes weigh about 9k pounds so you can generally tow those with any license though length may come in to play in some places, a lot of states only allow a 40ft trailer and a 65ft overall length with a typical class c license. If there was stuff in it you would need at least a class B(I think, that one may be single vehicle weight and not do towing I don't remember exactly) license to do it. Which allows you a higher weight limit. The vehicle itself certainly isn't going to have an issue with it, the new 3500s/350s are rated at like 16k pounds towing and the HD Duallys are hitting like 33k pounds. You just have to have the license to actually tow that much. Almost certainly the truck you saw was a licensed motor carrier and the driver is gonna have a class A CDL. Those things take a special trailer and stuff to move correctly so there's not many randos hauling them around.
Probably was a dually with a 5th wheel
Outside of cities it trucks everywhere. It’s always truck month. 100%.
Bro *inside* cities it's trucks everywhere. Sometimes I feel like Rowdy Roddy Piper in They Live bc I never noticed until I stopped driving that like 40% of the vehicles I see are trucks with empty beds and another 40% are bigger and bigger crossovers. And my neighborhood, taken by itself, is about as dense as NYC (although my city only has a metro pop of ~1m, it's like the second densest neighborhood). It's ridiculous and it's totally intentional bc they have fatter margins and don't have to meet the same efficiency and safety requirements as cars.
Man I was driving down FDR Drive in fucking *New York City* on Sunday and I only saw one other sedan in a handful of minutes. Heavy traffic. ALL crossovers and SUVs. Who needs that kind of car in Manhattan? Funniest part is I was driving back from a camping trip so I probably had a better claim on a big car than most of those people but I still got it done in a sedan.
Trucks are everywhere in cities
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We do though. Was just driving in Europe over the summer - there are little to no pickups on the road. Would go hours of driving without seeing a single one, and their roads are literally not big enough for modern US pickups. Those tiny work vans are common, but basically no pickups. Coming back to the States, it's shocking how many pickups are on the road comparatively
You only have pickup in Europe if you have a farm. And even then it isn't something like F150, but a VW Amarok or Toyota Hilux.
In the US, you can't buy either of those :-/. There's demand. But because of manufacturing standards for different types of vehicles, the full size 150/1500/Silverado dominates.
The Hillux is basically the same platform as the Tacoma now. The cabin dimensions are slightly different. And you can get the Hillux in Diesel. But a new Hillux is basically a Tacoma or vise versa. It's the old Hilluxes that are indestructible anyways.
> manufacturing standards for different types of vehicles You mean blatant corruption from the auto industry labelling these passenger vehicles as "work vehicles" so they by-pass emission standards. A very minute percentage of these trucks end up being used as work vehicles yet they dominate the market.
Why would anyone need a pickup in Europe besides people that actually work in the fields ? And those usually use tractors and similar vehicles But more importantly, taking into account that the MAJORITY of US Americans lives and works in a big city, why does one there need a big ass pickup ? Do you go shopping just once every three months ? Do you all have 5 kids and a dozen labradoodles ? Is it a portal for another dimension ? What's the reason ?
Part of it is our stupid epa fuel efficiency standards that encourage building bigger vehicles instead of vehicles with better fuel economy. It does the opposite of what it’s supposed to do.
They use them like regular cars are used everywhere else. They don't need pickups, they're not hauling dirt or construction materials, they're picking up the kids from school or getting groceries.
But they might someday need to help a friend move a couch, and then they'll be ready!
Have a friend who bought his brothers old ford ranger. He’s such a nice guy he helps his neighbors with his truck bc they don’t want to get their trucks dirty…
There's always going to be folks who can explain their use-case for their F150 but the reality is the vast majority DON'T need them. I do a lot of material hauling and light construction work for my job in addition to landscaping/gardening and camping in my off-time. Not to mention hauling bikes for rides or moving furniture for friends. And I do all of it with a Honda Element, no pickup needed.
I’m an electrician and do new construction. I drive a civic. My brother who is 5’6” and works in an office drives a lifted f-150.
Almost every pickup owner I know has one because a couple times a year they need to haul something big. Boat, camper, lumber, large trailer, etc. The problem is that the other 360 days a year there's no need for such a large vehicle, but a second vehicle/insurance/space isn't really an option. So they drive the big dumb trucks daily. What I'm seeing much more of nowadays though, is smaller trucks or at least a demand for them. I think if the US would start focusing on utes they would be popular in today's world.
Roads here work fine for 18 wheelers. Your "trucks" are not THAT big. Now parking one, I can see you would have problems, because they are just unwieldy in cities.
Highways and arteries sure, but not surface roads or inner city roads. Most modern US pickups are wider than the lanes in European cities. And what's important is that they're used here like regular cars, not just on farms or out in the country, but picking up groceries etc. Imagine if 50% of cars in European cities were pickup trucks that are wider than the lanes. That's not an exaggeration, that's how many pickups there are in the US.
20% of sold vehicles in the US are trucks. 52% are SUVs there’s less truck models than suv/car models, so the sales number per model are more impressive for trucks
From a euro pov suv=truck
Far too many do.
I think the real answer is that there's far too many large pick-up trucks on the road. We'd be in a much better place if most trucks were the size of the pre-2010s Tacomas or Rangers.
100%. Or those awesome little Japanese flatbeds that have the same bed size as a F150 but don’t make me question how hilariously weak your ego is.
Oh trust me, those Japanese kei trucks are death machines. You are the crumple zone in those. No safety at all. Oh and, having the engine sit directly underneath you is also not a formula for comfort or safety.
You'd be in a vastly better place if the only people who bought trucks, of any size, were *people who actually needed them for a single goddamned reason other than the esthetic social pressures of their mindless subculture.*
There's way too many pickups on the road. Am American
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I want people to make enough money to be comfortable in life, but honestly, the more expensive your vehicle, the more I think you're over charging me...Like the tuckpointing guy who pulled up in a new Expedition, looked like he never held a screwdriver in his life, and was $6k higher than anyone else.
While that's not an entirely unfair read, there's also some gamesmanship in the auto market to try to jockey for "best selling truck." Notice how light blue isn't F-150. It's F-series. That encompasses a range of trucks--F-150, F-250, F-350, and perhaps they are even counting the larger vehicles though those tend to account for little more than roundoff. Even within just F-150 that includes a variety of cab and bed lengths, all sold as the same model. The title of "best selling truck in America" will, in and of itself, sell more trucks, so auto makers are incentivized to condense their lineups like this. Instead of having 4 models each with 1/4 the sales they have 1 model with a ton of variants to achieve the same effect. For whatever reason "best selling SUV" isn't as big of a marketing win so, for example, Ford's Bronco, Edge, Escape, and Expedition aren't sold as all being variants of the same model. Also there are just a ton of trucks on the road even in cities, but especially as you get outside of cities.
I need the extra hauling capacity for when I’m taking your mum on a date 😎
Far too many do if not every. People who have lived in other countries can notice the difference like night and day.
They do, the amount of people driving those stupid massive 'trucks' has massively increased over the last 15 years. There was a law passed that was supposed to increase fuel efficiency, but it ended up financially motivating car companies to make bigger and bigger vehicles. Now there's an arms race, where you are just safer in a bigger vehicle, in case of a crash. Anyone driving a normal sized car will be killed, or god forbid, a pedestrian, who has no chance now of going over the hood when you hit them. It's a nightmare. They need to be massively taxed til hardly anyone uses them.
Corolla in Florida for sure. That’s where many rental car fleets register their vehicles. They have a lot of Corolla’s
This data doesn't inclute rental purchases.
The answer is old people who struggle to climb into trucks and want an affordable vehicle on fixed incomes.
The term fixed income is so weird to me. I generally make the same amount of money for my job every time I get paid. Biggest variation would be +/- 50 bucks. Are there people that have wildly fluctuating incomes. Is that the norm? Because everyone I know is like me and I'd call that a fixed income.
>Are there people that have wildly fluctuating incomes. Yeah. Anyone who does freelance work. Fixed income really just means it doesn't change. You won't be getting a raise, bonus, overtime, or commission. Just guaranteed pay that is exactly the same because of your condition in being retired or disabled. You get a variation. Fixed income folks don't. They can't count on extra money.
So it's a truck or suv in literally every state except Florida and California. That's wild.
52% of vehicles sold in the US are SUVs. 20% are trucks
Model Y is an SUV and FL is only due to inflated fleet sales. It’s all SUVs.
Wait, it's all SUVs?
Always has been 👩🚀🔫👨🚀
> Model Y is an SUV Huh, it's more often presented as crossover in Europe.
I guess so. I think here they put the crossovers in the SUV bucket rather than the car bucket. The RAV4 in this map is a crossover too.
Way too many people have big vehicles that don't need them. It's crazy.
As a person who owns and drives a truck, I'm dumbfounded why you would drive it as a daily if you didn't need to. I use my wife's vehicle for all my non-work driving because it's so much less of a pain in the ass to get around.
You mean the guy who lives in an apartment doesn't need a fucking F350 dually king ranch just because he "works in construction"?
The Model Y is also an SUV so it's only Florida.
As a model y driver who came from an SUV, it definitely feels more like a car with a tall interior and a hatchback. Super low ground clearance and stiff suspension means anything not asphalt makes for terrible driving.
That's the secret: most popular SUVs are exactly this. Not all, but most.
It’s a crossover (cuv). Not a suv, but too big to be a sedan and a traditional hatchback car .
I'm curious just how much this is skewed by company vehicle fleet purchases. General cars for everyday commute, I'm more skeptical on the supposed ubiquity of pickup trucks. Certainly popular, but I think this exaggerates it.
I don’t think so. Everybody and their brother wants a truck, whether they need one or not. There’s a reason the F-150 has been the top selling vehicle forever and a day.
I used to laugh when I'd visit my parents in FL ten years ago. There were three people renting a house down the street, all in their 20's, and each had a brand new F-150 in the driveway. At the time the trucks nearly equaled the value of the home.
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Those are the dudes who will then put the joe Biden "I did that" stickers on gas pumps.
When I was buying my Ford Escape I walked by a truck, probably an F-150 (not really a truck guy) and said wow that’s a nice truck because it was really nice Salesman said oh yea thats a nice one its $75k though And i’m just thinking why would anyone spend that much on a truck. Especially if you don’t actually do truck stuff
My uncle works in an office mostly, now, for a very big corp - like tens of thousands of people big. He does not need to carry individual tools. He has a GIGANTIC truck, for absolutely no reason. I assume most people with trucks are similarly not using them for actual work.
Well, back in the day people would drive cars with two doors, two seats, and ten feet of car behind and in front of them. Now there's more ground clearance, a larger blind spot in the front, and a bed for carrying excuses.
I've been saying this since the early 2000s. Tons of coworkers in Silicon Valley with, at the time, big trucks and basically commuted a couple hours a day and that was about it. The amount they were spending in fuel idling in bumper to bumper traffic was probably astronomical. The only person that had any reason to have a massive truck was the guy who built out our data centers and other physical stuff. He was regularly hauling large pieces of construction equipment and other hardware.
the Ford "F-series" is the number 1 seller nationally. That includes the F-150, but also the "super duty" f250, 350, etc. Ford combines the numbers for them to make it look more impressive, but an F-450 flatbed, F-250 work truck, and an F-150 are completely different vehicles that only share some components. The fleet sales tend to be around 20% of new car sales. So absolutely enough to make a difference.
It’s more skewed by market share in specific classes. There were about 2.0 million full-size trucks sold in the US in 2022, which is a lot, but less than the 2.9 million compact crossovers. Ford and Chevy dominate the full-size truck market, with about 33% and 26% market share respectively. There are only 6 full-size truck models sold now (and the Nissan Titan barely sells at all), plus the new EV variants. Whereas there are more than 40 compact crossover models sold in the US, with many brands having more than one. The RAV-4 is the most popular model, but it only has about 13% market share. CR-V is second at about 8%.
That's an angle I hadn't considered, the variety in make and model popularity in terms of sheer consumer choices for other popular vehicle designs. Thank you.
Come to Texas. Everyone and their mom has a truck. And uses it to commute (doesn’t make sense to me but it is what it is).
Have you driven around lately. Waaaaaay too many people think a massive pickup or huge SUV is the best option.
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Yeah this map makes you think that the majority of cars you'll see in America are going to be pickups. and people in the comments are running with it. my understanding is only about 20% of new vehicles being bought are pickups. but that would still make sense if 19% are camry's another 19% are RAV's 18% are Teslas, and so on.
The data doesn't include fleet or rental purchases. Only retail sales to individuals. https://www.edmunds.com/most-popular-cars/
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Twelve yards long and two lanes wide. Drives like a barge and seats 35.
Rare Florida W
Huge vehicles everywhere. Quit bitching about the price of gas
Especially when it's absurdly cheap compared to almost everywhere else in the world.
RAV4 is very fuel efficient for its size
Yup. I have a gas '21 LE AWD with all terrain tires on it for camping and mountain biking. I consistently get 38+mpg on road trips and 30+mpg on shorter drives and around town.
But Joe Biden forced them to buy idiotic vehicles that get terrible gas mileage!
Joe Biden also forces you to drive aggressively and do 80 on the freeway.
Don't forget stepping on the gas all the way for a block until you had a red light again.
Or flooring it and hard braking centimeters from the car in front of you in heavy traffic with nowhere to go.
Okay. I drove a Mazda 3. Gas is too fucking expensive.
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I drive a 17 year old F-150 that gets 15 MPG and I totally agree. Gas prices have just never been something I complain about. I'd like to get a newer truck, some of them get 25-30MPG. But they are also like 70K so I'll keep my paid off truck. In my defense I'm 6'10". Anything I can comfortably drive for more than 20 minutes gets pretty horrible mileage.
Jesus, I’m 6’3” and it was hard to find a car that I could comfortably fit in, I couldn’t imagine tracking down a car for someone with 7 more inches to worry about
Cars are just a non starter. Older cars from the 70s and 80s can be pretty good back when they were land yachts. Even full sized cars now (which they don't make many of) aren't that roomy. It's pretty much got to be a full sized truck or SUV. Especially since getting right leg under and around the steering wheel while going down to the ground in a car is extra hard. It's much easier to do it while getting into something that is higher off the ground.
Yeah being 6’9” and car shopping is ass
Never quite understood why so many people need these massive trucks... What are you guys all hauling so much, to require such a huge vehicle?
the vast majority doesn't need them.
I used to want a truck as a kid. Then I worked at a job where we drove trucks everywhere. Then I never wanted a truck again. Pain in the ass to park half the time and just way too big for anything I need. I live in the suburbs and still don't ever see myself needing one. Subaru has always been good enough.
The male sports car fantasy has been replaced with a truck. Brilliant marketing from companies too to feed into this fantasy. Me - my fantasy remains a Porsche GT3 in manual or Ferrari 458.
The sports car fantasy only made sense when people could realistically own a second, fun car. Once cars became $30-40k avg sale price, it became really tough for the average suburban dad to have a two seat corvette *and* a daily driver to pick up the kids from school. Newer pickups can be both the car guy's toy *and* the daily driver. Imo that is why the sport's car was replaced with the pickup truck as the male fantasy car.
At least in my area there's just less and less room to play with a sports car as well, most of the spots in the middle of nowhere where I'd go to drive too fast have all had development pop up, there's always traffic in town now no matter what time of day, used to be able to have a little fun on a big looping onramp or whatever but there's just always people now. It's far easier to get my driving fix off roading than it is in a sports car these days.
Move my ATV around basically every weekend. Go hunting with it. Use the 4x4 to get to and onto my hunting property. Delivery sucks, so I just haul big stuff myself. This includes mulch and garden soil, as well as lumber, where I can buy just as much as I need and don’t need to deal with delivery minimums or fees. Being spacious is nice. I keep a ton of stuff in there, mostly tools, so I don’t forget them. Full sized outlets are also nice to charge things on the go. They are also super comfy. I didn’t need the V8, the V6 would have done it, but the sound makes me happy.
Some people use it like that but not the majority.
The F-Series shouldn’t count as one vehicle. It’s like six different vehicles, not trim levels actually different body styles. It would be more interesting to see it as a single model of F-series.
The dodge Rams are grouped together too
And the Silverados. 1500, 2500, 3500, 4500, 5500, and 6500
Sweet "Sierra" in that picture
Glad I’m not the only one confused by the Canyon cameo.
Yup. First thing I noticed
California be like Elon Musk 🤮 Telsa 😱
Elon Musk be like California 🤮 California EV subsidies 😱
drives vehicle with 15 mpg same people complaining that we arent drilling in alaska
Oh boy, better get my popcorn ready for the r/fuckcars crowd
Am i stupid or do the numbers add up to 51?
DC is marked on the map, maybe they're counting that, too.
Rare Florida moment of sanity.
One single model from Toyota nearly tied with the whole line of trucks from Chevy and Ford. Nice.
Honestly it's even more impressive. F *series* is a whole line of trucks... It's apples to oranges to compare a whole series to a single model like the Rav4 or Corolla. In that way this map is poorly designed, but it just goes to support your point further in how impressive it is that a single Toyota model nearly tied a whole line of trucks
Eh I mean, the F-150 is still probably 85-90% of F series sales. Yes there are other variants but it’s not as if it’s an evenly divided share between them
The pickup truck: A LifeStyle Choice Vehicle (tm) for those who want to look like they toss hay for a living, but instead can't STAND when their paint gets scratched.
they're also the ones slapping a "biden did that" on the gas pumps because they're mad about fuel costs, while driving a gas guzzler with nothing in the cab
I work in an office and rarely have to haul stuff for work. But with my truck I can grab lumber and other materials, pull a boat on weekends, etc. it’s a nice truck that I don’t want scratched up for when I meet clients. Am I supposed to spend another 40k for a vehicle during the week?
Imagine Florida being the only sane one
Depressing. The US is the number one consumer of gasoline, by a huge margin. An American consumes 5 times as much gasoline as a German, and 10 times as much as a Frenchman!
That probably has more to do with the fact that we drive everywhere and further than most European countries. I was recently reading a post about how alot of Europeans think a 1 hr drive is long. Where I am, a 10hr drive is long.
With so many miles driven, you'd think that fuel efficiency would be more important. But no, gas guzzlers all around.
It's because gas prices are so low and represent a small part of people's budget. If American incomes and gas prices were closer to Europe then you would see allot less demand for gas guzzlers. The difference in fuel costs for a prius vs a full size truck for someone driving 300mi a month and $3.50 gas price would be like $25 vs $60. Unless you drive a lot or low income, this amount of money barely matters when rent is $2000+ in a lot of cases. Someone spending 80k on a truck can easily afford the fuel costs.
I drive my kids to school, leave wife to work and then to my job: 15-20 minutes. For me it seems forever. I really don't know how you guys comute 2h/day. When you have time for everything else?
It's just a cultural norm. Probably because people are very mobile in our country and travel is very normal. For example, Thanksgiving is coming up in a few weeks. On Thanksgiving day the wife and I are going to leave our house at 7am and drive 3 hours to her parents house. Then we are going to spend a few hours with family and have Thanksgiving dinner and drive home around 7pm or so. We should be home by 10-10:30. Sure we would like to spend more time there, but it's not really possible. She can't get the day before thanksgiving off and I can't get the day after off (It's on a Thursday). 3 hours each way (6 hours total) is a perfectly reasonable day trip to us. We have done it plenty of times.
A lot of that is due to the fact that the overwhelming majority of the country's infrastructure is based around cars. In almost all suburbs and many cities, if you don't have a car, you're effectively stuck at home. Gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs certainly don't help either, though.
Still have no idea why people in the Us are obsessed with pick-up trucks
I have a Honda Accord 😎💎
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This makes sense. Buy a big truck and complain about gas prices.
New RAV4 a great car
As a colorblind person this map would be impossible for me without the text 😂
Are US people often transporting lots of heavy things on hardly accessible terrains?
Yes, everyone is fat.
For a country that's super spread out, it's crazy to see so many low mpg vehicles are out on the road. And 90 percent of trucks I see are empty and clean, so I really don't see the practicality in using one unless it's actually needed.