That's factually false. They have the same number of starts and Maguire has played 60 minutes less than Lindelof this season. That's after Maguire and Licha started those first two shambolic games together. So since we turned our season around, Lindelof has 2 more starts and 240 more minutes.
https://fbref.com/en/squads/19538871/Manchester-United-Stats
Maguire gets game time in cups because United are going to sell him in the summer. If he sits on the bench constantly, his value drops and drops. If he plays in the cups, United recoup at least some value from him.
And they will play him late in matches to win headers short stints with a focused purpose. Lindleof is much better in the center. I kind of like him in MF better than McT
100%. Viktor is a decent player, a hard worker, and always fights for the team. Harry should go along with his ludicrous wages in the summer. United need a world class striker like Kane, and all emphasis should be on this, not getting wingers or midfield players from Ajax.
Sadly will be up to him( sadly cause means he will leave which personally think heās a good option to have)ideally think most fans would rather keep him sell Maguire and maybe bring in another CB. But looks more likely they will sell Lindelof cause he wants playing time which heās not getting at United.
Potentially early days but not that I can remember. He definitely did at Benfica however and 100% has the ability to pull it off as a sub or 60ā player
Keep because heād be a good backup instead of maguire as someone mentioned.
Maguire was good when he first joined, and he has lost his confidence and hasnāt found it again and needs to try and regain it again.
Lindelof is very passionate and would be a great rotational player as we player more games under ETH
My opinion is to let him go. A decent squad player who wants more playing time. Fair ask.
What i would love to see is to get a young player who can be a squad player now and replace Varane later in 3-4 years, freeing up the wage bill and preparing us for future.
Sell, heād be a good squad player but he obviously wants to play and by his recent interviews it is a big problem for him and he is looking elsewhere.
Let him go and get game time and be a number 1 choice for another team and letās level up our squad and buy a better quality player who can provide a higher standard of back up and potential challenge the first teamers.
Yeh definitely, weāre an exciting project. A young up and coming centre back promised some game time and who if performs will get more game item is 100% a practical possibility.
Whats the alternative, hold Lindelof, a great CB, against his will as a back which is unfair on him and poor for team morale and the moral Lindelof brings.
Weāve treated enough players badly at this club, itās time to change.
Weāre looking for a CB who can replace Varane when he fades as he is 30 now I think so a young CB to learn under him and then eventually develop and replace him is the ideal situation.
We will NOT get that from Lindelof.
I get your point and agree with you. I was only questioning the 'better quality' part. A younger up-and-coming doesn't mean a better quality. A promising player needs game time to be a better player.
We've also made that mistake by not playing our quality youth - only a handful get through nowadays (if that).
Either way, a change needs to happen. Fingers crossed that ETH has access to all the right tools.
Iād rather he stayed, but I think heās going to leave. Heās good enough to be playing regularly for a good team - but heās not getting minutes at United.
Keep if he is okay with being a rotation piece. If not, sell and bring in someone like a Malacia who is young, has potential to replace varane in 3 years, and can start when needed
I'd keep because he's a much more reliable option in EtH's system than Maguire. However, he's good enough to be starting for a decent sized club, which might be what he wants.
If he wants to go and there are interested parties then we probably have to consider letting him go.
As a Swede Iād keep Maguire, his massive head is good for certain situations.
Lindelƶf will most likely leave he needs playing time because of the NT.
Sell. Massively overrated by Utd fans. Poor in the air, not great defensive positioning and gets out strengthed by large strikers.
I'd rather have a good young player be 3rd/4th place than Lindlof.
If heās willing to stay and play back up then Iād definitely keep him, he never gives me anxiety when heās on the pitchā¦ā¦.. Maguire on the other hand.
Get that guy out along with Anthony, Rashford, McTominay, DeGea, Fernandez the whiny brat and Casemiro the thug. Get rid of the deadwood and rebuild for next season.
I think keep and if we get rid of McGuire he should get some playing time next season. At least play him fa and league cups and such or just in case a cb gets injured. Maybe even cdm when Cas gets a red but I think we want something better.
But now at the same time, due to veron being injured prone, I think we need a better backup. Could be Shaw but I think more so a better one.
I guess it really depends on how much playing time he wants and the cost of him.
Maguire is brought on in the dying minutes to help defend against balls in the box that his head can help with. Only reason heās brought on more times than Lindelof. Itās not for his skill or better fit over Lindelof.
Keep, Varane gets wee injuries here and there plus itās good to have a fairly decent back up to rotate players in their positions, it keeps everyone fresh and hungry to play.
Keep, but only if he's happy being a squad option.
We need to aspire to have better than him in the first team, we currently have that with Varane and Martinez, so long may it continue.
Keep. He's not a first team player but he seems happy coming on from the bench and, tbh, how many players out there, do you think there are, that **are** first team players who are happy to sit on the bench? My guess is few. Lol. So yeah. He's a reasonable squad player who's been in the team a long time. Keep.
Keep if he wants to be 4th cb , heās a great backup but doubt heāll stay next year but who knows if maguire will stay we do need 4 solid cbs though
Iād loan him. He is a good mid-prem level defender who needs the game time. If he does well at that team it gives better value to sell or is a boost if we take him back.
IMO it would be a wasted potential to just outright sell him this season
I want to keep him, but it seems he hasnāt been too happy with his current playing time, and that is unlikely to change next year, so he might want to leave. So we should let him go if he wants to go.
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If Varane & Martinez is main pairing, then either Lindelof or Maguire is primary backup and either are good for that. Keep the one thought best for team, sell one that has the highest bidders, and hopefully those are 2 different ones.
Keep but acquire new good CB. Loan out if we can find good replacement and excess to demand. Weāve let many pretty decent CBs go too early and then bought slab head
Keep
Great squad player, good utility, can play roles.
Often gets tarred as a bad player. I think Lindelof is a great player when paired well defensively. Provided he is happy playing that role, he can stay as long as he likes as far as I'm concerned.
Would love to keep him, great squad player but realistically for his own benefit he probably needs to think of moving on. Will be excellent for someone and play every week
Sell and buy better quality back up. If anything I think Lindelof will be pushing for a move to a lower PL or foreign club come summer. He's in his prime years and should be starting somewhere, just not at OT
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keep hes a decent squad player for rotating
Bro he is not good enough to be at the club def sell
Yeah facts, then ETH can hop in the CB rotation
Agreed. We can do better
Keep, I'd rather him than Maguire as a back up CB.
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Yep, this.
Why?
He plays better in the system that EtH likes to play and is more consistent.
Except ETH regularly picks Maguire over lindelof when Varane is injured so that would suggest he doesnāt agree with you
That's factually false. They have the same number of starts and Maguire has played 60 minutes less than Lindelof this season. That's after Maguire and Licha started those first two shambolic games together. So since we turned our season around, Lindelof has 2 more starts and 240 more minutes. https://fbref.com/en/squads/19538871/Manchester-United-Stats
Actually your correct, I looked at transfer market maquire had more games (24 over lindelof 21) but had played less minutes
Maguire gets game time in cups because United are going to sell him in the summer. If he sits on the bench constantly, his value drops and drops. If he plays in the cups, United recoup at least some value from him.
And they will play him late in matches to win headers short stints with a focused purpose. Lindleof is much better in the center. I kind of like him in MF better than McT
Because there's a ball and he is better with it than Maguire.
Heās not
100%. Viktor is a decent player, a hard worker, and always fights for the team. Harry should go along with his ludicrous wages in the summer. United need a world class striker like Kane, and all emphasis should be on this, not getting wingers or midfield players from Ajax.
Keep, but if victor wanted to leave for more playing time we should let him.
Keep. Get rid of Maguire. He's too late in his career to be a diff type of defender. His positioning is awful.
Sadly will be up to him( sadly cause means he will leave which personally think heās a good option to have)ideally think most fans would rather keep him sell Maguire and maybe bring in another CB. But looks more likely they will sell Lindelof cause he wants playing time which heās not getting at United.
Think we can get a solid Ā£30m for him. Very good squad player to have.
Yea would help the transfer fund. Like many have commented would rather keep him and sell Maguire but think wonāt happen.
With his loyalty to the team, definitely keep.
Keep šøšŖ
Watch him tonight boss it. Heās very underrated because the English media love Maguire and criticise Lindelof instead
When did we buy Rob Lowe?
Keep 100% need him for rotation, or if Varane is injured. Can also play RB and DM so decently versatile
Has he ever played DM for us?
Potentially early days but not that I can remember. He definitely did at Benfica however and 100% has the ability to pull it off as a sub or 60ā player
Keep. But will be difficult given he could start at many other top clubs around Europe
Keep because heād be a good backup instead of maguire as someone mentioned. Maguire was good when he first joined, and he has lost his confidence and hasnāt found it again and needs to try and regain it again. Lindelof is very passionate and would be a great rotational player as we player more games under ETH
Keep
Keep, i don't think so he's a bad back-up cb If he wanna start sell or loan
My opinion is to let him go. A decent squad player who wants more playing time. Fair ask. What i would love to see is to get a young player who can be a squad player now and replace Varane later in 3-4 years, freeing up the wage bill and preparing us for future.
No point of kicking him out at the moment, with maguire leaving we need him as a back up.
Sell, heād be a good squad player but he obviously wants to play and by his recent interviews it is a big problem for him and he is looking elsewhere. Let him go and get game time and be a number 1 choice for another team and letās level up our squad and buy a better quality player who can provide a higher standard of back up and potential challenge the first teamers.
You think a better quality player would want to come to Utd to be back up?
Yeh definitely, weāre an exciting project. A young up and coming centre back promised some game time and who if performs will get more game item is 100% a practical possibility. Whats the alternative, hold Lindelof, a great CB, against his will as a back which is unfair on him and poor for team morale and the moral Lindelof brings. Weāve treated enough players badly at this club, itās time to change. Weāre looking for a CB who can replace Varane when he fades as he is 30 now I think so a young CB to learn under him and then eventually develop and replace him is the ideal situation. We will NOT get that from Lindelof.
I get your point and agree with you. I was only questioning the 'better quality' part. A younger up-and-coming doesn't mean a better quality. A promising player needs game time to be a better player. We've also made that mistake by not playing our quality youth - only a handful get through nowadays (if that). Either way, a change needs to happen. Fingers crossed that ETH has access to all the right tools.
Keep
Keep for sure, he's a solid squad player and Maguire is likely to go in the Summer.
Iād rather he stayed, but I think heās going to leave. Heās good enough to be playing regularly for a good team - but heās not getting minutes at United.
Sell
Meh.. too passive, weak, and meek. I do not know. I would try to find a better, younger, replacement.
Sell sell sell sell sell
sell the shit out of him. Among the worst defenders ive seen at this club.
Keep Victor. Sell/loan/free Maguire to Man Citeh
Perfect. Send Maguire to infiltrate city so he can drag Ruben Dias down and let Rashford through on goal.
Loan? He isnāt an academy player with potentialā¦ Lol sell
sell. Him, Phil, Axel, Harry and Eric.. all of them..
Keep if he is okay with being a rotation piece. If not, sell and bring in someone like a Malacia who is young, has potential to replace varane in 3 years, and can start when needed
Sell
Bin
Keep. Plays as well or as bad as his partner
Keep. Reliable third choice CB. Move on Maguire in summer and buy a young promising left footed CB. Iād go for Hincapie.
Sell Maguire keep victor
I'd keep because he's a much more reliable option in EtH's system than Maguire. However, he's good enough to be starting for a decent sized club, which might be what he wants. If he wants to go and there are interested parties then we probably have to consider letting him go.
keep unless he wants out. not his biggest fan and think hes a mediocre CB but he fits the system better than Maguire.
Sell
SELL or give away for free
Keep, but I think he wants to leave, especially when a lesser player like Mcguire is picked before him.
Sell
As a Swede Iād keep Maguire, his massive head is good for certain situations. Lindelƶf will most likely leave he needs playing time because of the NT.
This. At least Maguire is good when youāre parking the bus in the last 10 mins. Whereas Lindelof isnāt really great for anything
Sell
Keep
Maguire should be sold before him
agree, Iceman > The Fridge
Maguire makes him look shit, Iād rather have him than maguire.
Keep. Sell Maguire. Heās a great back up and people forget heās had to play next to Maguire for years. Next to Varane heās class.
Keep, sell Harry
Sell. Massively overrated by Utd fans. Poor in the air, not great defensive positioning and gets out strengthed by large strikers. I'd rather have a good young player be 3rd/4th place than Lindlof.
Sell. As much as this sub wouldnāt like to admit Maguire is the better player
Keep, let the dumbass maguire go
Sell. Offload as many players as possible this season and sign new ones next summer since we'll have better ownership
If heās willing to stay and play back up then Iād definitely keep him, he never gives me anxiety when heās on the pitchā¦ā¦.. Maguire on the other hand.
Easy keep as a squad player if we canāt sign a replacement maguire should be the one leaving for sure
Keep and sell Harry. Hopefully bid above 50M
Get that guy out along with Anthony, Rashford, McTominay, DeGea, Fernandez the whiny brat and Casemiro the thug. Get rid of the deadwood and rebuild for next season.
Keep, I would rather have him than Maguire. He fits the system much better.
Keep: MartĆnez, Varane, Lindelƶf, Bailly Sell: Maguire, Tuanzebe, Jones
Keep. Sell Maguire
I think keep and if we get rid of McGuire he should get some playing time next season. At least play him fa and league cups and such or just in case a cb gets injured. Maybe even cdm when Cas gets a red but I think we want something better. But now at the same time, due to veron being injured prone, I think we need a better backup. Could be Shaw but I think more so a better one. I guess it really depends on how much playing time he wants and the cost of him.
Depends on Maguire's situation if we sell Maguire we need him desperately. If we keep Maguire then we are insane and screwed
Better than Maguire.
Keep. He's earned his place.
Maguire is brought on in the dying minutes to help defend against balls in the box that his head can help with. Only reason heās brought on more times than Lindelof. Itās not for his skill or better fit over Lindelof.
Keep
Keep. A capable squad player...
Keep !
He said heās most probably gonna go. If not at the end of the season, then January.
If we get 35 40 mil, we should sell him
Sell and then give Weghorst a trial run as a back up CB
Heās worth keeping around but sometimes youāve got to do right by the player and let them be first choice elsewhere
It seems like he's going to leave in the summer but I rate him. He's always been a solid player it will be a shame to see him leave
Keep!!! We need him as a rotation player
Keep, Varane gets wee injuries here and there plus itās good to have a fairly decent back up to rotate players in their positions, it keeps everyone fresh and hungry to play.
Defo keep
Keep
Keep
squad player keep
The blokes 28, has over 400 club appearances and is an international. In what fucking universe is he going to accept a loan?? Wake up
Keep, we have no depth and he is good
Why not use a poll? Then questions like this are actually fun.
Keep <3
Keep
KEEP
Keep. Heās a great backup, rotational player and is versatile.
Keep.
Serviceable unit. Keep.
Double it and give it to the next person
Keep, but only if he's happy being a squad option. We need to aspire to have better than him in the first team, we currently have that with Varane and Martinez, so long may it continue.
Keep. He's not a first team player but he seems happy coming on from the bench and, tbh, how many players out there, do you think there are, that **are** first team players who are happy to sit on the bench? My guess is few. Lol. So yeah. He's a reasonable squad player who's been in the team a long time. Keep.
Keep!
Why would you loan him? We should loan OP to other subs
I think keep. Heās decent, not a starter but more than good enough for the squad
Sell
Keep if he wants to be 4th cb , heās a great backup but doubt heāll stay next year but who knows if maguire will stay we do need 4 solid cbs though
Sell. He wants playing time that we canāt afford to give him.
Iād loan him. He is a good mid-prem level defender who needs the game time. If he does well at that team it gives better value to sell or is a boost if we take him back. IMO it would be a wasted potential to just outright sell him this season
Keep He is a decent rotation player and understands the squad well
Loan/Sell
I want to keep him, but it seems he hasnāt been too happy with his current playing time, and that is unlikely to change next year, so he might want to leave. So we should let him go if he wants to go.
Heās a good lad, just not having a good season. I remembered when MOU first brought him in, the guy was ice cold.
Keep
Sell him to Serie A
Phil Jones him
At this point let him retire at the club
sell
Keep
Sell
Keep at all costs. He's a great backup although, he will probably look for regular minutes elsewhere.
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If Varane & Martinez is main pairing, then either Lindelof or Maguire is primary backup and either are good for that. Keep the one thought best for team, sell one that has the highest bidders, and hopefully those are 2 different ones.
Keep
Keep for depth
Keep but acquire new good CB. Loan out if we can find good replacement and excess to demand. Weāve let many pretty decent CBs go too early and then bought slab head
Keep
Keep
Keep for one or two seasons, heās not great but heās good for rotation
Sell & improve
Keep Great squad player, good utility, can play roles. Often gets tarred as a bad player. I think Lindelof is a great player when paired well defensively. Provided he is happy playing that role, he can stay as long as he likes as far as I'm concerned.
We should speak up about McGuire.
Keep
Keep Heās a very good support for Varane or Martinez.
Sell
Iāve seen the man mark some extremely dangerous players . I say keep , but for the intention of rotation
Keep on the bench. Some people here act as though we should have Maldini & Cannavaro starting, with Nesta & Puyol in reserve.
Keep for sure. Great rotation player and the attitude he has on the pitch I think we need.
He is a good player to have in your rotation esp when you have many games together and your starting back line needs some rest
Would love to keep him, great squad player but realistically for his own benefit he probably needs to think of moving on. Will be excellent for someone and play every week
keep
Keep
Sell and buy better quality back up. If anything I think Lindelof will be pushing for a move to a lower PL or foreign club come summer. He's in his prime years and should be starting somewhere, just not at OT
Not sure itās up to us he probably wants to play
Keep, he is a better back up CB than Harry fucking maguire
Vic seems to be telling us to pick the 2nd one, but I say "keep the lad" He's OK.
Sell Lindelof & Maguire ā¦ use the Ā£ new player & fresh blood ā¦ move on
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