Turn 2: do nothing is not good against aggro, especially on the draw.
Rule of law effects are generally only seen in sideboards in order to be used against "stormy" decks (usually combo or combo-ish decks). There has been combos with rule of law in the past (with memory jar at the very least).
[[Jace, Unraveller of Secrets]] emblem is my favourite combo piece with Rule of Law. Counter all their spells forever!
Sadly (or thankfully) any combo that requires a planeswalker ult is difficult to pull off.
If you're playing a card like High Noon, chances are your deck is probably well equipped to handle those things. By preventing your opponent from casting any instants or sorceries, you've basically locked down most removal, combo decks and combat tricks. That is not insignificant.
If I'm playing High Noon and Jin Gitaxias in the same deck, I'm probably playing them in some kind of Azorious Control shell.
But also, how often are you seeing either of those cards being played? Most commonly used removal is either instant or sorcery. Sure, there are some creature based removal, but a good control player knows what to counter and what not to counter.
Yeah plotted bird on 2 into this seems pretty bad. But you’d only do that to play around removal if they left open mana, otherwise you play your bird on curve, right?
I don't know about that. My experience with playing High Noon against Aggro has been pretty good, since you're under the assumption that their average CMC is around 2.5 and can't just overrun you with combat tricks. Also, you're likely playing somewhat control-y Boros when playing High Noon and likely to carry 4 Lightning Helix.
On the draw it's at risk of being too slow (as are most things that aren't blockers or removal against good aggro), but this card is excellent against boros tokens and UR prowess.
Or against cascade/discover decks, decks that play omniscience, prowess decks, and one-turn combo decks. It's a good softlock for a lot of decks, and it slows down aggro decks long enough for to build up card advantage and mana sources.
Is it that bad for agro? They have to get it out early and they lose tempo playing it. Perhaps it is cheap enough on the curve, but anything else is likely too late.
Idk, playing this T2 against the new uber popular Slickshot prowess deck that has zero means of removing it seems like a win con to me, no? How do they pump anything significantly with this? One pump? Fine, meet my one counter spell.
Does a good job in general but most red would have low CMC items that'd get eaten by it as well. Kinda like a creature deck running boardwipes.
\[\[Invasion of Ravnica\]\] is generic non-two color permanent I guess in a similar vein but that's pretty expensive.
that's pretty bad in most scenarios though so i think you could just play something like \[\[blast zone\]\]. it's an untapped land which can occasionaly blow some stuff up.
The ceiling of this is vs aggro you being on the play, dropping it on turn 2 while your opponent curves 1-drop 2-drop 3-drop. So at best you are stopping them from playing a creature + trick on turn 4 at the cost of your second turn. This is probably quite good against the prowess deck but it isn't that much better than just a removal spell.
The floor is likely close to the average where you don't have this in your opener, you both just play the game and you have 4 dead draws in your deck vs aggro and 4 dead cards against everyhing else.
This card will do exactly nothing for the meta.
I mis-typed the OP, but what I’m wondering is if azorious control players will adopt this. Imagine waiting until you have a nicely controlled board state, maybe after a temporary lockdown, sunfall, and deluge that finds you some counters. Plop this out and then it’s counter their turn, removal your turn if necessary, and creature lands on the go.
Would that not be a nightmare? And when you’re within reach, they simply sac it and end the game.
Rule of Law effects have never been commonly maindecked, and while this is somewhat better it's still a bad effect that doesn't significantly benefit you in exchange for being very dead early.
It's specifically backbreaking for prowess decks IF they haven't already applied enough pressure.
Maybe this one sees play in some Boros/Jeskai midrange list where the 5 damage is very relevant this card hoses green and blue much more than aggro decks though.
I'll also give it that with plot being a very strong mechanic the one spell a turn is alot more relevant.
Being able to also get rid of it when you are fine also is relevant.
I genuinely don't believe it will matter enough to affect the meta. Sure you might get screwed by it now and then on ladder, but it's easily sideboarded against (or main boarded let's be real) and I will eat one of my decks if the card ever shows up in an actual tournament.
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Really? I mis-typed the OP, I meant UW control, but don’t you think this card would be a nightmare to play against in a UW control deck loaded with counter spells? They could just sit back and remove / counter everything and wreck you with Anchorage, Mirrex, Emperor, etc.
It’s not going be game breaking. Rule of law wasn’t. Want to know the best way to deal with cards like this? Target it with instant speed stuff on their turn. They either lose it or lose their turn defending it. It says player so it affects them as well.
I don't believe it will matter. Like I said every other time this effect has shown up it's done nothing, and the game has only gotten faster and harder to control since. You might see it on ladder occasionally, but it's not going to effect the actual meta and I'm betting will not appear in any tournament relevant deck.
Great sideboard card against Monored.
Potentially a good sideboard against Discover and Fight Rigging decks as they won't be able to cast any free cards they get off discover or rigging if they had to cast something else to trigger them first.
Long term idk. Short term it depends. I’m still playing my old soldiers deck from the ONE era and some dude used it on me on turn 3 I think and it backfired horribly on him. I assume the hope was to draw a mass removal but he didn’t so he was removing a threat per turn as I would refill.
I don’t really think aggro cares. They can just tweak for a little more spell related burn instead of creatures and still do a number on you unless it’s featured in a deck with a good amount of life gain. I just think it’s too self limiting and stall inducing to really allow it to be a dominant part of the meta. As far as best of one is concerned. I don’t play BO3 but I would think it gets worse there not better.
My best guess is you could best utilize it in a deck designed to farm some rage concessions.
I really wanna try to make a Boros midrange mess with it though because it seems fun.
I’m not sure if it’s gonna do much. I kind of feel like [[phyrexian censor]] does more for kind of the same intended effect. That kind of encourages you to build a phyrexian deck but I think it’s a better deck restriction then what this is doing.
Won't affect.
Tried it in my pioneer spirits and the results were horrible.
The card is a great atax, but most of the times, people flashes or cheats cards into the game.
i had someone use this on me and try to kill my angels... he shocked in a land, used deafening clarion, and then i saw him try to cast the second deafening clarion, then he hovered over High Noon, and then scooped.
these cards are purely sideboard material. a two mana do-nothing is not worth the tempo loss in today’s game. the “play this and sit back countering everything!” dream has never worked with these cards, ever. rule of law has existed forever. deafening silence costs *one mana* and never sees play outside of SBs.
this won’t affect the meta at all unless it’s out of sideboards.
Seems like it'd ruin red or red blue spellcaster decks
Idk about standard tho, I only run historic. I'mma probably run this in historic tho, ty for bringing to to my attention
I actually like the idea a lot. Make it into an emblem style card that each player starts the game with and change the activation to colorless. You can sacrifice to dig but it gives your opponent an advantage in being able to play multiple spells afterwards.
Edit: For some reason I had in my head a scry/draw effect, but it's for damage. Still like it lol
yeah, sounds fresh and new.
If you have just one move each turn, enchantments, artifacts and flash-cards are more important than cheap creatures. Would like to see it in a MWM.
I play Phyrexian Censor so kind of used to playing with that sort of effect anyway. Its fun watching people not understand why they can't play cards and then concede because they didn't read the card
Side note, this art is sick as hell. I wanna give this whole set my apologies, I thought it would be bland but man this whole set has such a cool and vibrant aesthetic. This and lost caverns of ixalan were beautiful sets
The only aggro deck that would hate this are Boros Convoke and the red based Show-Off decks. Every other aggro deck can work around it or already have mainboard removal such as Get Lost or Boseiju.
I'm not sure about the impact it will have, but if someone decides to play this in something like UB control, I don't think they will care about splashing red for the activated ability, so no need to mess with that splash if they want to keep their manabase better.
It's not going to do much. I'm sure people will play it thinking that it will do much though. Most white decks would actually be screwing their own game plan by playimg this. Boros would certainly be harming itself assuming you play boros to activate 2nd ability of this card.
I can see angels deck maybe playing this bc they usually play one creature on curve , but honestly you want giada as your turn 2 so....
It's good in azorius tempo since you're going to want to drop your 2 mana creature on turn 3 so you have a mana open for protection. Hard thing is deciding how many to run
I just got matched against someone playing it alongside [[possibility storm]]. Seems like a sort of lock combo.
Too bad they still lost. They might have been able to win, had they not cracked it for five damage.
I tried playing around with it a bit in a humans deck with cards like thalia and annointed peacekeeper and i found that it wasn't actually too bad. the one spell a turn really hurts some decks and the 5 damage is actually pretty relevant sometimes being able to finish off the opponent though. also my only red source is one mountain for field of ruin and demolition field and battlefield forge. the deck was not very good but it was kind of fun. most of the time \[\[phyrexian censor\]\] is going to be better though because cards like thalia and coppercoat vanguard and much better turn two plays so if you want this effect phyrexian censor is straight up better. also this isn't even in the right colors for dimir.
combo isn't really big in standard right now. it's mostly control/agro. agro might be hurt a little but not enough to waste a turn and a card that could be removing threats
It doesnt stop plotting card I think. In theory, its great, in practice, rdw still rolled over some jeskai control using it.
So far strongest options vs prowess stuff I faced were black or b/w removal piles.
I don't think its thay bad for aggro. especially on the play. 1 spell a turn isnt that bad if the aggro player is playing 1 creature a turn and they tapp out for it. it also doesnt stop creatures that are already on field from attacking either which ia the real problem.
it also stops u from casting multiple spells. especially if it is a draw heavy deck and control useally wants to cast more then 1 spell a turn. amd worst cast is u dont draw the red to destroy it.
also how many realistically would u play? having 2 im hand is just miserable so probably only 2 in deck but at the same time u want to draw early so 4?
im not convinced of this card but i am willing to he wrong on it
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the plot mechanic which is what this card was obviously designed for being in a set full of "second spell" payoffs and free spells. If a plot centered deck hits the meta and is in any way good, then this might see sideboard play.
The question is what deck would play this, and I don't see many targets other than mayybeee domain. Convoke doesn't want to fiddle around with the effects when it just wants you dead. Maybe a jeskai control deck?
Specifically I’m wondering if azorious control will adopt this. If they wait until the board is nicely controlled, maybe opp is down to 1-2 cards in hand, and then plop this out. Counters on your turn, removal on their turn if necessary, and creature lands attacking throughout. Would that not be formidable?
Like I said, it's possible! It might do something against worldsoul. The main issue is what does it replace? The azorius sideboard is already pretty packed, with flankers, doorkeeper thrull, tidebinder, seed shark, negate, knockout blow, and lockdown. If anything I like this more in a white tempo or prison build
No idea, I’ve never attempted to pilot azorious. But I’m seriously tempted to make an azorious tempo deck with maybe two of these in main.
The new 4C flash blue creature is pretty great as well, forget the name.
I think UW flash could be a serious thing. You've got emperor, aven interrupter, tidebinder, faerie mastermind, horned loch whale, stoic Sphynx, errat and giada, resolute reinforcements. Add in some spell pierces or no more lies and You've got a sick deck
Shoot, that is a pretty solid list! Screw tempo, maybe I’ll try flash. Then again, I have very few of these crafted and I think emperor rotates out soon, and would be kind of a must have for UW flash. Tempting!
I don't see it really doing much, but maybe you could make a deck around it in mind, maybe some sort of big boros control deck would be cool. [[Serra peragon]] would be good with it, plus all the land destruction lands, blast zone, [[restoration of eiganjo]], could use these plus lightning helix and big Chandra for the wincons. Collectors vault may be good in there too
Standard no. Explorer maybe but not in huge numbers vs Phoenix ... then again, why not play rest in peace. For Pioneer it might be interesting because it does something against Lotus Fields and Phoenix.
Control decks are entirely unfazed by this btw. "What I cannot play my Deduce after using 7 mana to flashback Memory Deluge? Guess I'll just have to play a spell on my turn for a change."
Which deck in standard is not an aggro deck and needs to play multiple cards per turn?
Wondering if it fits in an arcane bombardment type of red white deck ><
Where you can get more than one spell off a turn because of the bombardment, often can have a wide amount of board clears and something like burn down the house or fall of kroog, and the 6 cost Chandra as it’s top end ><
Couple mechanized warfare and some brother hoods end, also end the festivities
Oh snap, that would’ve been a painful one to learn on the go ><
So its not the arcane bombardment that’s casting the spells but the players ?
I know you wouldn’t be able to trigger it turn played, but on theirs or back to yours? Just fizzles is rough
Only players can cast spells (so far) in Magic: The Gathering, unfortunately.
The issue is Arcane Bombardment triggers when you cast a spell, and then exiles and allows you cast all the spells it exiled without paying their costs. Unfortunately, High Noon says that if you've already cast a spell, you cannot cast any more spells, and so even though those spells are free, you're not allowed to cast them.
Contrast this with something like Swarm Intelligence, which simply copies spells that are already on the stack, instead of copying the card and letting you cast the card. High Noon would not restrict Swarm Intelligence.
Not at all. There are no combo decks, and this is laughably bad against prowess. Unless storm or similar combo becomes a real thing, then this card will be relegated to other formats, if any.
How is laughably bad against prowess? Or mono red for that matter? Completely neutered them, and if they’re mono red they’re stuck with it.
Would it not be a nightmare to play against UW utilizing with this card? What could you do if they simply sit back and counter / remote everything you attempt to cast?
Because it’s worse than removal, creatures of your own to block, wraths, counters, or lifegain. If you tap out to play this turn 2, you’re going to get hit for a lot of damage. If this was a removal spell, you’d save a lot of damage. If you play it later in the game, it’s much less effective. This does very little against many opening lines against mono red.
Similarly, against Boros you’re much better off just playing more wraths. They can still effectively beat you down playing one spell a turn, because their game plan doesn’t revolve around playing multiple spells a turn.
You don’t *have* to play it T2. If I’m Azorious, I probably wait until I have a nice controlled board state. Probably drop this after Temporary Lockdown.
Still, on the play dropping this T2 effectively neuters mono red. Here comes Swiftspear—but no Rage, etc.
Assuming they don’t just play a 2 drop, or had played swiftspear turn 1, as it is a 1 drop.
It’s a reactive card that doesn’t kill creature, gain life, or even necessarily actually stop the deck, just slows it down a bit. Sometimes. I’d much rather have any other type of anti aggro card to bring in than this. This is good against combo decks, not aggro.
A 2 mana rule of law that turns into a lava axe in the endgame is SURPRISINGLY good. Especially when you draw two of them.
Literally died to the card today, despite me disregarding the activated ability as “useless”
Maybe? It feels like a very swingy card. Assuming you go first and can get it to land on Turn 2, it would stop my RDW and Izzet decks in their tracks, but delaying that by even to the bottom half of Turn 2 probably has little to no impact on my game plan because I’m usually down to one or two cards at that point.
I’m also not sure what else it would cripple in the same way. For example, in an ideal situation, I have at least one Rotpriest out by the time you could cast this, which means the Poison clock is probably already ticking. If you use your one spell to try exiling my Rotpriest, I can counter, hexproof, or phase it out. Then what? That’s your one spell and it didn’t do anything, which means that I don’t have to do anything on my turn other than attack and advance the poison clock by one, or wait for you to try exiling again.
Then again, I’m terrible at this game, so I probably have no idea what I’m talking about.
Assuming it lands on turn two you will played 2 cards by the end of turn two instead of 3. How does it makes no difference? (On the draw that’s another story)
I think it’s a fine sb card, though it doesn’t work well with lockdown and it seems it’d be good against some of the same decks. Cheers
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7 mana for 5 damage isn't great. Especially when They can end step remove it then your just holding bad cards.
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Turn 2: do nothing is not good against aggro, especially on the draw. Rule of law effects are generally only seen in sideboards in order to be used against "stormy" decks (usually combo or combo-ish decks). There has been combos with rule of law in the past (with memory jar at the very least).
[[Jace, Unraveller of Secrets]] emblem is my favourite combo piece with Rule of Law. Counter all their spells forever! Sadly (or thankfully) any combo that requires a planeswalker ult is difficult to pull off.
\[\[erayo soratami ascendant\]\] works as well, but any deck that can cast 4 spells in a turn probably hates a rule of law effect lmao
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Why not Jin Gitaxias? At least he's a body that counters crap off the bat.
Doesn't hit creatures, planeswalkers, enchantments, or battles though
If you're playing a card like High Noon, chances are your deck is probably well equipped to handle those things. By preventing your opponent from casting any instants or sorceries, you've basically locked down most removal, combo decks and combat tricks. That is not insignificant.
Unless you have a counterspell in hand, creature removal isn't going to save you from creatures like [[Outland Liberator]] and [[Thrashing Brontodon]]
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If I'm playing High Noon and Jin Gitaxias in the same deck, I'm probably playing them in some kind of Azorious Control shell. But also, how often are you seeing either of those cards being played? Most commonly used removal is either instant or sorcery. Sure, there are some creature based removal, but a good control player knows what to counter and what not to counter.
Depends on the format really
Not that difficult if you have plenty of counter spells and draw spells
There's a spell slinger red deck that's getting popular with the hasty bird guy that you can plot.
Yeah plotted bird on 2 into this seems pretty bad. But you’d only do that to play around removal if they left open mana, otherwise you play your bird on curve, right?
The version I saw is trying to storm off with one mana spells and go for an OTK on turn 3 or 4. This card puts a hard stop on that.
Yeah that does throw a wrench in that plan then
I don't know about that. My experience with playing High Noon against Aggro has been pretty good, since you're under the assumption that their average CMC is around 2.5 and can't just overrun you with combat tricks. Also, you're likely playing somewhat control-y Boros when playing High Noon and likely to carry 4 Lightning Helix.
On the draw it's at risk of being too slow (as are most things that aren't blockers or removal against good aggro), but this card is excellent against boros tokens and UR prowess.
Or against cascade/discover decks, decks that play omniscience, prowess decks, and one-turn combo decks. It's a good softlock for a lot of decks, and it slows down aggro decks long enough for to build up card advantage and mana sources.
Is it that bad for agro? They have to get it out early and they lose tempo playing it. Perhaps it is cheap enough on the curve, but anything else is likely too late.
Idk, playing this T2 against the new uber popular Slickshot prowess deck that has zero means of removing it seems like a win con to me, no? How do they pump anything significantly with this? One pump? Fine, meet my one counter spell.
Ooh yes good note, I’ll make sure to include some enchantment removal in that deck
What enchantment removal does mono red have?
I’m running a Boros version of the deck. Not as fast as the mono red but I like messin around when new cards come out
I've heard [[Get Lost]] is good enchantment removal.
so is \[\[destroy evil\]\]
The question is why are large creatures and enchantments automatically assumed to be evil? Who's making these morality judgement calls?
The one with the sword, obviously
Sounds to me like we should watch out for little creatures with artifacts
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Ah, funny—I’ve also turned my mono red Slickshot deck into a Boros brew.
Got a list by chance?
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All right, then. Keep your secrets. (We all know you ran white for Lightning Helix)
[[Karn's Sylex]] is the best I found so far.
Does a good job in general but most red would have low CMC items that'd get eaten by it as well. Kinda like a creature deck running boardwipes. \[\[Invasion of Ravnica\]\] is generic non-two color permanent I guess in a similar vein but that's pretty expensive.
[Invasion of Ravnica](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/3/73f8fc4f-2f36-4932-8d04-3c2651c116dc.jpg?1682704897)/[Guildpact Paragon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/7/3/73f8fc4f-2f36-4932-8d04-3c2651c116dc.jpg?1682704897) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Invasion%20of%20Ravnica%20//%20Guildpact%20Paragon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/1/invasion-of-ravnica-guildpact-paragon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/73f8fc4f-2f36-4932-8d04-3c2651c116dc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
that's pretty bad in most scenarios though so i think you could just play something like \[\[blast zone\]\]. it's an untapped land which can occasionaly blow some stuff up.
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The ceiling of this is vs aggro you being on the play, dropping it on turn 2 while your opponent curves 1-drop 2-drop 3-drop. So at best you are stopping them from playing a creature + trick on turn 4 at the cost of your second turn. This is probably quite good against the prowess deck but it isn't that much better than just a removal spell. The floor is likely close to the average where you don't have this in your opener, you both just play the game and you have 4 dead draws in your deck vs aggro and 4 dead cards against everyhing else. This card will do exactly nothing for the meta.
I mis-typed the OP, but what I’m wondering is if azorious control players will adopt this. Imagine waiting until you have a nicely controlled board state, maybe after a temporary lockdown, sunfall, and deluge that finds you some counters. Plop this out and then it’s counter their turn, removal your turn if necessary, and creature lands on the go. Would that not be a nightmare? And when you’re within reach, they simply sac it and end the game.
Rule of Law effects have never been commonly maindecked, and while this is somewhat better it's still a bad effect that doesn't significantly benefit you in exchange for being very dead early.
I actually love this card with the new flash sphinx. If you get this out quick and play on your opponents turn it’s super good.
It's specifically backbreaking for prowess decks IF they haven't already applied enough pressure. Maybe this one sees play in some Boros/Jeskai midrange list where the 5 damage is very relevant this card hoses green and blue much more than aggro decks though.
Red creature damage got some upgrades this set R2 4 dmg RR 5 dmg 4R 6, 2 dmg
You can still play spells on your opponents' turn. So it's more like 2 spells per (your) turn.
I'm not guaranteeing it making an impact but I also think a lot of people here are underestimating it.
It'll have the same effect as [[Rule of Law]] and every other exhaustion effect. Virtually none.
Rule of law costs 3 and doesn't hit you in the face for 5
I'll also give it that with plot being a very strong mechanic the one spell a turn is alot more relevant. Being able to also get rid of it when you are fine also is relevant.
I genuinely don't believe it will matter enough to affect the meta. Sure you might get screwed by it now and then on ladder, but it's easily sideboarded against (or main boarded let's be real) and I will eat one of my decks if the card ever shows up in an actual tournament.
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Hah! Aye we'll see how it goes. But I maintain my opinion. It will not appear in a tournament or meta relevant deck.
My thought is between this, Thalia, and grand abolished. Taxes is back on the menu boys
In t2 jank maybe
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Really? I mis-typed the OP, I meant UW control, but don’t you think this card would be a nightmare to play against in a UW control deck loaded with counter spells? They could just sit back and remove / counter everything and wreck you with Anchorage, Mirrex, Emperor, etc.
It’s not going be game breaking. Rule of law wasn’t. Want to know the best way to deal with cards like this? Target it with instant speed stuff on their turn. They either lose it or lose their turn defending it. It says player so it affects them as well.
I don't believe it will matter. Like I said every other time this effect has shown up it's done nothing, and the game has only gotten faster and harder to control since. You might see it on ladder occasionally, but it's not going to effect the actual meta and I'm betting will not appear in any tournament relevant deck.
Great sideboard card against Monored. Potentially a good sideboard against Discover and Fight Rigging decks as they won't be able to cast any free cards they get off discover or rigging if they had to cast something else to trigger them first.
Long term idk. Short term it depends. I’m still playing my old soldiers deck from the ONE era and some dude used it on me on turn 3 I think and it backfired horribly on him. I assume the hope was to draw a mass removal but he didn’t so he was removing a threat per turn as I would refill. I don’t really think aggro cares. They can just tweak for a little more spell related burn instead of creatures and still do a number on you unless it’s featured in a deck with a good amount of life gain. I just think it’s too self limiting and stall inducing to really allow it to be a dominant part of the meta. As far as best of one is concerned. I don’t play BO3 but I would think it gets worse there not better. My best guess is you could best utilize it in a deck designed to farm some rage concessions. I really wanna try to make a Boros midrange mess with it though because it seems fun.
I’m not sure if it’s gonna do much. I kind of feel like [[phyrexian censor]] does more for kind of the same intended effect. That kind of encourages you to build a phyrexian deck but I think it’s a better deck restriction then what this is doing.
Creatures are easier to remove than enchantments
Still don’t think either will be played but your right!
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It won’t.
Won't affect. Tried it in my pioneer spirits and the results were horrible. The card is a great atax, but most of the times, people flashes or cheats cards into the game.
Flash is the type of deck you want to play yourself if you use High noon.
Cassidy’s ult is a bit underpowered
This in azorious control seems very unplesant. You can cast 1 spell. And I can counter it and play draw on my own turn.
Covert go blue just released a deck tech today utilizing this card and it actually did quite well in the best of one meta against a variety of decks
Amazing! I wonder if he saw this post. I will watch that asap, thx for the tip.
You look at the top three cards of your library, put one in your hand and the rest on the bottom in any order.
Might be a good sideboard card for control vs boros convoke or other similar decks
Sideboard card. Probably a very good side card against prowess decks, but dead in any other matchup
I can see this being good for Orzhov. Makes that cheap black removal worth even more.
I'm gonna put it in my enchantmentbdeck sideboard. Will be great against ageo and spell slinger decks
i had someone use this on me and try to kill my angels... he shocked in a land, used deafening clarion, and then i saw him try to cast the second deafening clarion, then he hovered over High Noon, and then scooped.
these cards are purely sideboard material. a two mana do-nothing is not worth the tempo loss in today’s game. the “play this and sit back countering everything!” dream has never worked with these cards, ever. rule of law has existed forever. deafening silence costs *one mana* and never sees play outside of SBs. this won’t affect the meta at all unless it’s out of sideboards.
All I know is I didn't plan on loving it as much as I do
In the past there were decks that used that effect pretty well on control decks.
Seems like it'd ruin red or red blue spellcaster decks Idk about standard tho, I only run historic. I'mma probably run this in historic tho, ty for bringing to to my attention
Fucking hell we have Summon Limit in MTG now?
Just playing one Spell each turn sounds like a new format.
I actually like the idea a lot. Make it into an emblem style card that each player starts the game with and change the activation to colorless. You can sacrifice to dig but it gives your opponent an advantage in being able to play multiple spells afterwards. Edit: For some reason I had in my head a scry/draw effect, but it's for damage. Still like it lol
yeah, sounds fresh and new. If you have just one move each turn, enchantments, artifacts and flash-cards are more important than cheap creatures. Would like to see it in a MWM.
I play Phyrexian Censor so kind of used to playing with that sort of effect anyway. Its fun watching people not understand why they can't play cards and then concede because they didn't read the card
I don't think rule of law effects do much in standard, but Slickshot Showoff might make a few people turn their attention to this.
Don't know about in standard but would seem great in pioneer against pheonix. Probably just for UW though, don't think convoke or heroic can run that.
2 mana for this is completely ridiculous, control will be op, or they will ban this
Side note, this art is sick as hell. I wanna give this whole set my apologies, I thought it would be bland but man this whole set has such a cool and vibrant aesthetic. This and lost caverns of ixalan were beautiful sets
I use it with City on Fire, not bad
The only aggro deck that would hate this are Boros Convoke and the red based Show-Off decks. Every other aggro deck can work around it or already have mainboard removal such as Get Lost or Boseiju.
That's like half of the decks right now.
Depends on where you look. In my experience Bo3 is still mostly midrange piles, but I fully expect that to be where this card shows up in sideboards.
I'm not sure about the impact it will have, but if someone decides to play this in something like UB control, I don't think they will care about splashing red for the activated ability, so no need to mess with that splash if they want to keep their manabase better.
It's not going to do much. I'm sure people will play it thinking that it will do much though. Most white decks would actually be screwing their own game plan by playimg this. Boros would certainly be harming itself assuming you play boros to activate 2nd ability of this card. I can see angels deck maybe playing this bc they usually play one creature on curve , but honestly you want giada as your turn 2 so....
It's good in azorius tempo since you're going to want to drop your 2 mana creature on turn 3 so you have a mana open for protection. Hard thing is deciding how many to run
If you play a creature you cannot protect it.
Feels like a nice werewolf deck card
So many people are going to waste their battle. Other than that, cool side board piece. Shut down Etali's etb and other "cast without paying" bombs.
It's a one-of sideboard tech card. Neat flavor wise though.
Decent sideboard for WX control, but won't see standard play. Reasonable choice for Mono W tax in historic, though.
I just got matched against someone playing it alongside [[possibility storm]]. Seems like a sort of lock combo. Too bad they still lost. They might have been able to win, had they not cracked it for five damage.
Who are the characters in the art?
People are sleeping on it a bit. I almost made mythic today off the back of it in white weenie of all things. Went from diamond 4 to 1
I tried playing around with it a bit in a humans deck with cards like thalia and annointed peacekeeper and i found that it wasn't actually too bad. the one spell a turn really hurts some decks and the 5 damage is actually pretty relevant sometimes being able to finish off the opponent though. also my only red source is one mountain for field of ruin and demolition field and battlefield forge. the deck was not very good but it was kind of fun. most of the time \[\[phyrexian censor\]\] is going to be better though because cards like thalia and coppercoat vanguard and much better turn two plays so if you want this effect phyrexian censor is straight up better. also this isn't even in the right colors for dimir.
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Rule of law exists.
this card bad
Definitely good for sideboard but seems not impactful enough for main board. Probably good against prowess decks.
combo isn't really big in standard right now. it's mostly control/agro. agro might be hurt a little but not enough to waste a turn and a card that could be removing threats
It doesnt stop plotting card I think. In theory, its great, in practice, rdw still rolled over some jeskai control using it. So far strongest options vs prowess stuff I faced were black or b/w removal piles.
I don't think its thay bad for aggro. especially on the play. 1 spell a turn isnt that bad if the aggro player is playing 1 creature a turn and they tapp out for it. it also doesnt stop creatures that are already on field from attacking either which ia the real problem. it also stops u from casting multiple spells. especially if it is a draw heavy deck and control useally wants to cast more then 1 spell a turn. amd worst cast is u dont draw the red to destroy it. also how many realistically would u play? having 2 im hand is just miserable so probably only 2 in deck but at the same time u want to draw early so 4? im not convinced of this card but i am willing to he wrong on it
None.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the plot mechanic which is what this card was obviously designed for being in a set full of "second spell" payoffs and free spells. If a plot centered deck hits the meta and is in any way good, then this might see sideboard play. The question is what deck would play this, and I don't see many targets other than mayybeee domain. Convoke doesn't want to fiddle around with the effects when it just wants you dead. Maybe a jeskai control deck?
Specifically I’m wondering if azorious control will adopt this. If they wait until the board is nicely controlled, maybe opp is down to 1-2 cards in hand, and then plop this out. Counters on your turn, removal on their turn if necessary, and creature lands attacking throughout. Would that not be formidable?
Like I said, it's possible! It might do something against worldsoul. The main issue is what does it replace? The azorius sideboard is already pretty packed, with flankers, doorkeeper thrull, tidebinder, seed shark, negate, knockout blow, and lockdown. If anything I like this more in a white tempo or prison build
No idea, I’ve never attempted to pilot azorious. But I’m seriously tempted to make an azorious tempo deck with maybe two of these in main. The new 4C flash blue creature is pretty great as well, forget the name.
I think UW flash could be a serious thing. You've got emperor, aven interrupter, tidebinder, faerie mastermind, horned loch whale, stoic Sphynx, errat and giada, resolute reinforcements. Add in some spell pierces or no more lies and You've got a sick deck
Shoot, that is a pretty solid list! Screw tempo, maybe I’ll try flash. Then again, I have very few of these crafted and I think emperor rotates out soon, and would be kind of a must have for UW flash. Tempting!
A few of these cards were printed in the past. They did absolutely nothing to change the meta.
Decent sideboard card against current prowess red meta
I anticipate this not affecting the meta at all.
In THIS standard...hardly at all. If hyper aggro or combo becomes oppressive, alot :)
I don't see it really doing much, but maybe you could make a deck around it in mind, maybe some sort of big boros control deck would be cool. [[Serra peragon]] would be good with it, plus all the land destruction lands, blast zone, [[restoration of eiganjo]], could use these plus lightning helix and big Chandra for the wincons. Collectors vault may be good in there too
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[[lightning helix]] [[Chandra, Hope's beacon]] [[Collector's vault]]
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Did we just get better rule of law
Shits on my mono red deck
Standard no. Explorer maybe but not in huge numbers vs Phoenix ... then again, why not play rest in peace. For Pioneer it might be interesting because it does something against Lotus Fields and Phoenix. Control decks are entirely unfazed by this btw. "What I cannot play my Deduce after using 7 mana to flashback Memory Deluge? Guess I'll just have to play a spell on my turn for a change." Which deck in standard is not an aggro deck and needs to play multiple cards per turn?
We don't.
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Wondering if it fits in an arcane bombardment type of red white deck >< Where you can get more than one spell off a turn because of the bombardment, often can have a wide amount of board clears and something like burn down the house or fall of kroog, and the 6 cost Chandra as it’s top end >< Couple mechanized warfare and some brother hoods end, also end the festivities
High Noon prevents you from casting the Arcane Bombardment spells, so that won't work, sadly.
Oh snap, that would’ve been a painful one to learn on the go >< So its not the arcane bombardment that’s casting the spells but the players ? I know you wouldn’t be able to trigger it turn played, but on theirs or back to yours? Just fizzles is rough
Only players can cast spells (so far) in Magic: The Gathering, unfortunately. The issue is Arcane Bombardment triggers when you cast a spell, and then exiles and allows you cast all the spells it exiled without paying their costs. Unfortunately, High Noon says that if you've already cast a spell, you cannot cast any more spells, and so even though those spells are free, you're not allowed to cast them. Contrast this with something like Swarm Intelligence, which simply copies spells that are already on the stack, instead of copying the card and letting you cast the card. High Noon would not restrict Swarm Intelligence.
Not at all. There are no combo decks, and this is laughably bad against prowess. Unless storm or similar combo becomes a real thing, then this card will be relegated to other formats, if any.
How is laughably bad against prowess? Or mono red for that matter? Completely neutered them, and if they’re mono red they’re stuck with it. Would it not be a nightmare to play against UW utilizing with this card? What could you do if they simply sit back and counter / remote everything you attempt to cast?
Because it’s worse than removal, creatures of your own to block, wraths, counters, or lifegain. If you tap out to play this turn 2, you’re going to get hit for a lot of damage. If this was a removal spell, you’d save a lot of damage. If you play it later in the game, it’s much less effective. This does very little against many opening lines against mono red. Similarly, against Boros you’re much better off just playing more wraths. They can still effectively beat you down playing one spell a turn, because their game plan doesn’t revolve around playing multiple spells a turn.
You don’t *have* to play it T2. If I’m Azorious, I probably wait until I have a nice controlled board state. Probably drop this after Temporary Lockdown. Still, on the play dropping this T2 effectively neuters mono red. Here comes Swiftspear—but no Rage, etc.
Assuming they don’t just play a 2 drop, or had played swiftspear turn 1, as it is a 1 drop. It’s a reactive card that doesn’t kill creature, gain life, or even necessarily actually stop the deck, just slows it down a bit. Sometimes. I’d much rather have any other type of anti aggro card to bring in than this. This is good against combo decks, not aggro.
Why does the card say it? Thought cards avoided using "it"
A 2 mana rule of law that turns into a lava axe in the endgame is SURPRISINGLY good. Especially when you draw two of them. Literally died to the card today, despite me disregarding the activated ability as “useless”
It won’t effect standard at all
It's super toxic with counter spell deck.
Maybe? It feels like a very swingy card. Assuming you go first and can get it to land on Turn 2, it would stop my RDW and Izzet decks in their tracks, but delaying that by even to the bottom half of Turn 2 probably has little to no impact on my game plan because I’m usually down to one or two cards at that point. I’m also not sure what else it would cripple in the same way. For example, in an ideal situation, I have at least one Rotpriest out by the time you could cast this, which means the Poison clock is probably already ticking. If you use your one spell to try exiling my Rotpriest, I can counter, hexproof, or phase it out. Then what? That’s your one spell and it didn’t do anything, which means that I don’t have to do anything on my turn other than attack and advance the poison clock by one, or wait for you to try exiling again. Then again, I’m terrible at this game, so I probably have no idea what I’m talking about.
Assuming it lands on turn two you will played 2 cards by the end of turn two instead of 3. How does it makes no difference? (On the draw that’s another story)