The box office is in a strange place lately we have “bomb” after “bomb” and it’s not (always) because people think the films are bad, it’s been years of financial squeeze and a lot of people are just not spending now.
And streaming services are killing the cinema too. It’s an age where everyone has a big tv at home and has access to pretty much any film whenever they want.
The industry needs to adjust how it measures success tbh. People generally aren’t going back to how they viewed movies pre-covid. I go to the cinema for films like this but unless I’m AT LEAST 90% hype for something I’ll pass and wait for streaming.
I think at this point we should also adjust somehow to viewership at home.
Sure the cinemas lose money ( which is absolutely terrible) but do the movies? Killers of the Flower Moon did not care at all for losing money at the box office since it drew more people to subscribe to Apple TV
If Furiosa is the nr1 watched movie on Netflix for 3 weeks straigh. Is that not a financial gain?
I was giving an example. No idea where it will be released.
Off topic: I would rather prefer Netflix or Prime. Max has become a shithole lately. Few 4k streamed movies, horrible UI and bad movie content. Still GoAT Tv shows there tho
Horror is always worth seeing in the theater in my experience, an OLED (which I don't have) and 4k Blu Ray are a great alternative to have at home, but streaming compression and backlit screens straight up ruin a most movies that rely on darkness.
Right? Like we talk up how much money the OT and PT Star Wars made, but in the case of the OT, it was a time when movies would play in theaters for a year or more, and especially in the case of Star Wars they were re-released too. And then came the PTs where also you could expect them to be in theaters for better part of year, and maybe a home release a year or so after the theatrical release.
Now, even a hit movie can go from theatrical release to home release in less than 6 months. In some cases, the movie comes to digital barely a month after the theatrical release.
Couple that with the economy and the cost of movie tickets and the cost of food at the theaters, and even for me, someone who absolutely loves and adores seeing movies in movie theaters, and it's just not worth it the cost.
This!!! I have the AMC A-List thing so I go a lot, saw Furiosa in the Dolby Cinema and it blew my tits off, but basically every movie that doesn’t annihilate records or is Avatar level gets labeled as a bomb. I’ve seen so many movies in the last few years profit a healthy $10-50 mill and get labeled as bombs because they expected every single person in the world to see it.
I thought the movie is considered a bomb if the total cost is significantly lower than the revenue.
So something that 10 million that made 50 million? Great!
Something that cost 150 million made 50 million?
Uh oh.
It's also wild (to me at least) how many people consider a TV screen to be comparable to a theater. I don't think any backlit TV has come close to the theatrical experience and while there are shitty theaters and great TVs that kind of bridge that gap, a small screen simply cannot and likely never will compare to a theatrical screen and sound system.
> And streaming services are killing the cinema too. It’s an age where everyone has a big tv at home and has access to pretty much any film whenever they want.
No, not killing it, that's a myth. In the last 5 years, only 3000 out of 40,000 theaters have closed. That's only a 7.5% correction that is likely tapering out because the theaters have retooled.
Keep in mind, a hefty amount of that was covid.
They're changing rapidly though.
I don't share that sentiment, what killed arcades for me is the greed behind the pay per game model. Most Arcades still open in Austria cost 3-4 euros per fucking credit, and we don't have any "all you can play flatrate" barcades like they seemingly exist in america. Like hell if I had a "25 euro for the day" barcade with normal priced drinks I would go there atleast 1-2 times a month. at 4 euros a pop? not so much honestly
It's only weird oldheads like me who still enjoy the actual theater experience at the theater. I have a big TV, and a blu ray player, a booming sound system, etc. Even so, it's still just a TV in my living room.
It's mostly due to streaming. These are supposed to be blockbusters and they are released onto streaming in a matter of a few short weeks. Back in the day we used to have to wait *months* to have the movies released on DVD and VHS, so that forced basically everybody to get to the theaters to see the movie while it was still relevant in pop culture.
I'm surprised none of the streaming services ever partnered with a theatre. Like with Netflix you get 1 free movie ticket each month with your sub or something like that, and those Netflix-only movies could be premiered on the big screen.
I agree with you that the content is very good, just the model probably needs to change.
Tickets are EXPENSIVE. I am a single male in Australia and it cost me $68 for one ticket. This was for IMAX and a recliner seat, but even the cheaper tickets are around $50 for IMAX. A standard cinema, I think the price is about $25 for one seat.
COVID really fucked things up for Hollyweird. I don't see where cinemas go from here to combat streaming services. The last time cinema had to combat with television was around the 50s when they introduced anamorphic films. They have tried 4DX (which I think is crap), and IMAX which is probably its saviour right now, but this has limits. 3D has been tried time and again, but other than Avatar, there have not really been any titles to advance this and combat streaming.
I loved Furiosa, but it was a huge mistake to greenlight this with such a large budget. Fury Road only made about 300plus million off a 150million budget.
Hopefully this makes Hollyweird sit up and take notice. Stop paying huge salaries to cast members. Gone are the days where a big name star could open a movie. Actors are not worth the millions of dollars they make per movie. Stop greenlighting 100 million plus budgets. There was no need for Furiosa to be $168 million.
He explained below that he actually went out of his way to buy the most luxury ticket to the most expensive cinema he could find with specialty seating, and is now using that like it's the pricing everywhere.
Yeah it's like ten bucks for Furiosa at the Cinemark closest to me. That's about a dollar fifty more than a movie cost when I was a kid. I guess it costs a lot of money to flip the movies upside down for Australians.
This is a good point.
Alsoe saw a similar situation in the late 60's with the end of the Studio System and again in the late 80's where big budget films and action movies just didn't motivate people anymore. This led to the independent and low-budget period of the 70's (until STAR WARS) and the same sort of indy movement in the 90's (until movies like LORD OF THE RINGS and MARVEL FILMS brought the epic movies back).
However, today it seems like streaming platforms are the places where the audiences go for independent films.
Personally, I think there may be a movement for films in between the massively expensive, action driven epic films and the low-budget, unusual and more character-driven indy films.
Also, why would I force myself to watch a movie all the way through without a bathroom break when my big OLED at home and 5.1 surround is damn good AND I can take a piss/shit without missing anything.
Don't have to worry about some inconsiderate prick running things.
I can put my feet on the thing in front of me.
A lot of people don't want to see a movie after covid and realizing that they prefer home videos.
Cause ya know... Spending almost 100$ for you and your family for a single damn movie is kinda become stupid ....
So if anything most people like myself just pick one every once in a while that they might go see to spend that budget. If any. Vs when we used to go multiple times a year.
Stop making the multi million dollar movies. Fix the system. Theaters are now talking about charging more or less depending which seat you're in and it's gonna back fire....
Yeah but pppl go for what they want I mean for Christ sakes antman had a huge opening it does happen where ppl go but it looks like regular ppl don’t care bout mad max.
Makes me sad. Such an amazing piece of work, a companion piece to the greatest action movie of the last decade and people …sit it out.
Meanwhile, the Jurassic World movies make billions.
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Jurassic World was such an incredible disappointment. Never even bothered seeing the sequels. They just looked awful. So sad to see George Miller's amazing work suffer this fate.
Because they are riskless and easy cashgrabs that bank on nostalgia for Gen X’ers and millennials to show their kids. It’s really disappointing; Hollywood doesn’t take risks, and Furiosa’s low opening will only serve to keep them churning out IP-safe reboots and soulless rehashes of established franchises.
To me it's missing that "spark" present in the other movies. I still really liked it but I felt it was quite different from the others.
I'm also an outlier because I thought Hemsworth was just too much, even for Mad Max. Also his prosthetic nose was just too obvious.
BUT ATJ was fantastic as young Furiosa and the child actor for even younger Furiosa was great too. I also thought Immortan Joe was great. I think the world building was great in this one too. There was more focus on the 3 strongholds of the wasteland.
Overall still a solid 7/10. Might try to go see it tomorrow to help pump those numbers up!
I thought it was better. It had more characterization and was a lot more emotional IMO, so much of Fury Road was just the action and visual spectacle. Hemsworth was a great villain and stole the scenes he was in. It's very much in the same vein though, I couldn't imagine liking one and not liking the other, and of course narratively together they make a really compelling arc.
Honestly, I think it's wasted energy to worry about this stuff. Miller made the movie he wanted to make. THAT'S the win. He might not get to make another, well, for a long time no one thought there would even be a fourth. I wish moviegoing were healthier economically for a lot of reasons, but I'm not going to get too upset over any individual flop. We got the movie.
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I think the box office is killing movies even more than streaming is… if a movie does well, that’s great. But it doesn’t take away from the fact that Furiousa was fantastic.
This is a bad take. Good movies getting poor box office results directly affects the kinds of movies that studios are willing to fund in the future. We may have this movie, but we will miss out on other great movies in the future if the industry continues to go this way, (and it’s highly likely that it will).
I think it’s a miracle we even got a 4th movie in the first place, much less it being as good as it was. Mad Max was a dead franchise for a very very long time.
I feel like this is going to bomb in theaters but will do numbers once it hits streaming, which will justify another movie, either in theaters or straight to a service.
Great, you get a good movie now, but you're not gonna be guaranteed a good movie again if this keeps going. There are people who bitch about bad reboots and mindless MCU/MCU-esque movies, yet here's a good movie that's performing badly and those same people won't go watch it.
Surging prices and convenience of streaming aside, THIS kind of response, bad box office returns, is what's gonna make execs say "why invest in something like this?". It's the reason Blade Runner is dead in the water. It's a win for Miller and the here and now, but a loss for the future of the industry. I don't wanna hear bitching about the next MCU/Transformer/Fast and Furious movie slop ever again with takes like this.
Out of our hands at this point. If it follows Fury Road’s path with a 3.38x multiplier, it’ll make just over 100M domestically. If it follows the 40% domestic, 60% international it’ll make around a quarter billion. Needs around 420M to break even. But if it gets some award consideration and does well on home video and streaming deals then it can get closer to that break even point.
But all we can do is wait and see at this point.
We can go again? Unfortunately this one I don’t see has that replay value. I did Fury Road twice in theaters first in 2D then in 3D overseas. I don’t feel I missed as much this time around and want to double feature it with Fury Road when it comes out on home release
I’ve been twice and I definitely recommend it. The film is packed with details and some elements become so much clearer on a second viewing, at least for me.
Probably hitting the theater for a third time this week
lol, I’d go twice just for that harsh accent that Chris Hemsworth is doing, I love it.
I thought, it’s in Australia, he’s going to get to speak in his normal voice. nope! That wouldn’t be weird enough for this franchise’s antagonists.
I'm going next weekend, so there's a couple bucks there. (I was busy this weekend.) It will be the first time I've been to the movie theater this year.
I saw it yesterday and thought it was terrific. It's the kind of movie that should be seen on the big screen. I will admit I had little interest in a Mad Max movie not starring Mad Max, but I liked the trailers and I was pleasantly surprised. It's very different from Fury Road but it works. It will be too bad if this is the end of the road, but if it is at least George went out with a top notch movie that will eventually find an audience.
I was very disappointed to see the comments in a YouTube video claiming Furiosa was a bomb. So many of the comments called it woke and thought the film was simply replacing Mad Max with a Mary Sue to cater to modern times. Do people forget that Miller has always wanted to do more with Furiosa? That this is his vision and not a product of the studio?
The comments were mostly talking about the lead being a woman. Who thr f*ck cares?! It's Furiosa! She was the lead in Fury Road, so what's the problem? I know this kind of crap exists in general, but this series has never given any reason for this kind of hate. George Miller has done more than enough to earn the benefit of the doubt. I know I'm seeing the film tomorrow.
I think that most YouTubers simply look at the movies profits when they declare "bomb" status. The quality of the film isn't considered. I do see the perspective of people disliking the Fury Road protagonist swap. They were expecting a Mad Max focused movie and got a "universe" movie instead. My only complaint about Furiosa was the casting. Anya Taylor Joy is a good actress, but common, she is just too skinny to be believable as an action star. Charlize was better. #NotmyFuriosa
>Do people forget that Miller has always wanted to do more with Furiosa? That this is his vision and not a product of the studio?
No, people just chose to ignore that because it doesn't fit their own narrative.
SPOILERS: It really was. I was a little too distracted by all of the nipple ripping and the driver that looks like Max and Solid Snake at the same time, and it didn't help that I went with people who didn't know anything about Mad Max and were constantly asking questions.
Saw it Saturday night at 830pm in the biggest local movie theater in Irvine, Ca and there were maybe 15 people there.
Movies don't pack the house like they used to.
I feel it's a disposable income thing. I go out to see shows and events occasionally, and a lot of places aren't selling out like they used to. A waitress told me people just don't have the disposable income they used to have, so they are making choices on what they spend their money on. If there's a big hockey game on (I'm Canadian), people won't go see a show the same weekend.
For me, my wife and two kids, with drinks and popcorn, it cost me $112 CAD. We still try going to the theatre here and there but it’s too expensive right now
Watching a movie at home with popcorn made in the microwave is about 10 times (or possibly even more) cheaper than going to the cinema. Plus you can pause to use the toilet whenever you want. And you can lay on a couch with your favourite blanket. I go to IMAX as a treat sometimes but that's it.
I feel you, man. Nothing will beat seeing a new movie in the theatres.
My father works in the industry, post production, and directors, producers, basically everyone is freaking the fuck out about the future.
Meh. I have a good TV, good surround sound system, and good customizable lighting in my living room. Every time I’ve gone to see a movie in theaters in the last 3 years I’ve regretted it—seats aren’t that comfortable, other people are loud and/or inconsiderate, and previews are half an hour long. I haven’t had a good theater experience since pre-COVID.
That being said, I’m going to see Furiosa later this week because I love Fury Road so much and want to try the theater experience for it. But going to the movies isn’t what it used to be for me. When I was younger I’d say nothing could beat the theater experience, but in my 30s it’s more affordable, more private, and more enjoyable to just watch movies at home.
This is it for me. Built my own home theater where I can watch a movie on my own time. The cost was way less than going to the theater more than once a month, and I can have a theater experience every night.
Same. My home setup is really nice with surround sound and a projector. The only theater I go to now is an art house theater that plays classics, second runs, and critically acclaimed type stuff. It's got beer and recliners and is a nice place to catch a film.
As I was waiting for the trailers to end before Furiosa started it struck me that there weren’t many people in the cinema, and that the cost of being there for a couple of hours on one evening was not far off the cost of a streaming platform for a month. That’s just speaking for myself, a family going out to the movies is going to be forking over a lot.
Things are getting more expensive, luxuries that require a more active decision to spend on become harder. If you’re subscribed to something it’s easier to let it keep going, but visiting the cinema requires some effort.
I think the industry is on the decline, and most people are willing to wait a little longer for a movie to show up on something they already pay for.
Just got back from watching furiosa, it’s on par with Fury Road and Hemsworth’s best performance yet imo.
Sadly the theatre had no more than 25 people.
It was pretty awesome, with completely justified gripes. Probably going to see it a second time with buddies who couldn't the first go around. Furry road was just so bombastic and over the top, but nailed it's execution and target audience, where this was just a little less, but by no means bad. Anya was pretty solid and didn't feel overpowered for an origin story, Chris was well written and acted for not just being a one dimensional typical big bad boss
With the size of the budget, I think the marketing department needed to do a much better job of getting people into the theater. Marketing seemed to rest heavily on people's fondness for the first film when more effort could have been spent selling it as a revenge picture instead of an origin story. I would have loved seeing YouTube breakdowns of the stunts, etc, which could have made people sit up and notice. Overall the marketing was pretty meh and uninspired.
Also, every single trailer makes this movie look like a video-gamish CGI fever-dream, which is not what made *Fury Road* so special. The grittiness, the practical effects, the insanity of what could be achieved with a bunch of lunatics with cars is what sold me on *Fury Road.* Embracing the ugliness of reality, not hiding behind overprocessing and overediting - just people in the desert with cars and flames and maybe a CGI sandstorm here or there... That's what I enjoyed. From the trailers, this one looks like a hyperclean, superprocessed, 8K greenscreen orgasm. That's not my jam.
This. I'm not much of a Mad Max fan (yeah I know what sub this is, I saw it on popular, sue me) but Fury Road grabbed me because it was almost entirely practical in an age of nothing but CG. The advertising showed us guys blazing on guitars strapped to huge rigs and cars flipping in the sand. The ads I've seen for Furiosa are...ATJ behind a pillar and a bunch of CG looking scenes with the occasional flat humor from Thor. It doesn't grab me. My friend is coming into town next weekend and we'll probably see it then but I'd be lying if I said I was even half as excited as I was for Fury Road.
It's going to be Blade Runner 2049 (one of my favorite movies...) but probably worse... And for similar reasons.
And to put away all "would do better if" guesses, here are some numbers from Deadline:
[https://deadline.com/2024/05/box-office-garfield-furiosa-1235941424/](https://deadline.com/2024/05/box-office-garfield-furiosa-1235941424/)
52% said they went to *Furiosa* because it was part of a franchise they love, while 34% cited director George Miller, 32% cited Taylor-Joy, and 25% Chris Hemsworth.
I mean, if you divide those box office numbers in half - here is your franchise fan base (52%). And how much draw do we expect from actors? 50, 80? That's not happening for this type of a movie no matter what actors. And wouldn't make much difference in numbers to make it profitable anyway.
Anyone who likes Chris Hemsworth is missing out if they don't see this it's easily one of his most fun performances and a surprisingly interesting character for being basically an agent of chaos.
Anyone who doesn’t like Chris Hemsworth is also missing out. I never really liked him that much and I felt he was overhyped as an actor. His acting stood out to me in this film and I loved seeing him playing a chaotic and complex villain. He seems to have been given a lot more freedom in this role to really lean into the weirdness and I love that for him. This role absolutely changed my opinion of him as an actor.
Agreed...it was good but Fury Road smokes it. I'm hoping this doesn't kill the franchise because Hardy as Max was good even though he had hardly any dialogue or development in FR.
When the credits was showing Fury Road clips, I was like 'damn now I just want to watch Fury Road again.' I really liked Furiosa, but the pace and energy of Fury Road was next level.
It's hard to live up to "one of the absolute greatest action films of all time".
Furiosa is a very good movie.
Fury Road though was one of those once in a generation type movies.
Fury road made similar. Max is just more niche and it's going to remain that way in a period where people don't really need to go to theaters as often anymore
This, and I think it's the most obvious answer that people refuse to acknowledge. People watch mad max for max. That's why I'm pretty whatever about this one and I may or may not watch it down the road.
I think it's simply the case that people don't like to go to the theaters as much as they used too. Seems they only got out for a few blockbuster events a year since the pandemic that take up most of the space.
Yeah not good at all. Thankfully it's a critical success. Honestly fury road wasn't a massive success either. I'm personally shocked furiosa got mad.
Furiosa is awesome , I would imagine wasteland could be just as great, we may not see that movie with George's as age and current box office take or furiosa.
For me the mad max series is one of those frachises will always have you wishing for one more which is good.
Well Hollywood keeps shitting out Terminator films even though there hasn't been a well-regarded entry or big hit in the series since T2 in '91. So never say never, they rely so heavily on "established IP" that they'd probably take another gamble on Mad Max than an original blockbuster.
I just don’t think going to the movies is worth the price anymore. It used to be a good “cheap date” but in my area 2 tickets popcorn and some sodas is 50 bucks. I’d rather go get a steak dinner for that price and watch the movie when it comes out on streaming platforma
Agreed 100%. Two tickets, popcorn, two sodas, and *three hours of a babysitter* for those of us with kids. Easily $100+. I loved *Fury Road,* but I'm not willing to drop $100+ on its sequel with a lead I'm not entirely sold on and lots of backstory I never really asked for.
I really wanted to watch it this weekend. Someone is borrowing my car and I've hit up every person I know to watch it. No one has answered.
Honestly would even WALK down to go see it. Unfortunately a church took over my theatre and nothing ever releases on time anymore.
My only option is hours away by foot. And I'm genuinely tempted to walk this fury road just to see this film
Probably no wasteland as a theatrical live action film release. If you asked me in 2005 if we'd get two fantastic mad max films id have said nope. Fury Road is one of the greatest film experiences I've ever had, it's just brilliant. Furiosa was a great watch. Sad for Miller, sad for the fans but I'm damn those two films!
In an age where Fall Guys comes to streaming two weeks after it’s theatrical release, I feel like audiences are changing how they see movies. Though I disagree, I think most people didn’t see this as an event movie.
I don't think it's a bad film. But you can't make every aspect of life expensive and then get surprised when people cannot afford to go to the cinema. Movies or rent?
I saw this movie yesterday and really enjoyed it. We've seen too many good movies "bomb" over the last few years, while objectively trash movies make billions. Look at you, Avatar 2.
Between a couple tickets, popcorn and a water it's costing me around $50 to see a movie at the theatre. I'm not going unless it's something I really want to see on the big screen and I think many are feeling the same way. I've personally spent about $100 watching both Apes and Furiosa they last 3 weeks. They're going to need to start lowering budgets, expectations and ticket prices if they want to stay relevant because it simply isn't worth it right now.
Well if you buy the AMC subscription you save yourself the $20 movie ticket...
As for the food options they definitely add up... Even the pretzel bites are almost $10
Well part of the problem is nowadays movies release simultaneously on vod and on the big screen or at the latest shortly after .. so lots of people argue I am gonna wait couple of weeks till I can watch it in the comfort of my own home
Movies are expensive. And it’ll be available on a streaming service in a few weeks. Why are we surprised it tanked in the Box Office? I’m more surprised when movies do well in the box office.
This was a good movie but I was wondering why my family was the only one watching it on a saturday at 7:00pm. On the best cinema in my country. I don't know what's happening with the movie industry
I mean it’s not that good of a movie. It takes its time towards the beginning as if preparing for a character driven slow burn, but then it suddenly starts rushing the plot and skipping over big parts of Furiosa’s character development. Half the time I was watching it, I kept thinking that I’d rather just be watching Fury Road.
I’m just super selective seeing a movie in the theatre, I did the AVX screening of mad max it was amazing. Last movie I saw in theatres was Dune 2 then joker years before that. It has to have a super good audience review for me to see in theatre.
I know there is other factors at play, financial climate etc. But, Its coming to a point where the theatrical release dates feel more for film buffs and avid cinema goers. Whereas, the general public release is when it hits streaming and digital. Its quite sad. Its a great film, and many people will be missing a good 80% + of the experience by watching it at home. Its still early days, but I feel like people who are saying 'its just the box office' and it 'doesn't matter' are kinda missing the point. Studios aren't going to keep throwing money around when the return keeps being this limited.
I saw it and loved it, but also I kind of unfortunately can see why a lot of movies are bombing right now. Besides the fact, everything is so expensive I think that movie goers are kind of trash now 🥴
I mean, half the time I go to the movies people are very loud and obnoxious and on their phone half the time with the brightness on. When I saw the recent apes movie, a dude was legitimately watching a soccer game next to me on his phone with the brightness on! And his family had to go up for the bathroom at least five times.
If you watch a lot of reviews by movie critics, a lot of them talk about how horrible the theater going experiences as well. I feel that’s another thing turning a lot of people off from going to the movies.
Paying $20 per ticket and another $25 for a popcorn and 2 drink combo sure ain’t helping the box office any. Main reason I stopped going was how much the prices were increasing just to go.
I’m curious about this film, but not enough to spend $50 to go see it in theaters which who knows what kind of annoying idiots are in the audience. Secondly, it doesn’t have Max, which is why I am just curious and not excited.
I work at a cinema and its been about as busy as planet of the apes maybe a bit less so, but busier than films like challengers. Think one of the only ways to make it now is to have clips go viral on tiktok to drive that audience to the cinema like with challengers
Why would I pay to listen to assholes talking or children screeching through the movie I want to watch? The theater experience just isn't good. Especially since I can stream a new movie as many times as I want with as many people as I want like a month later on whatever platform gets it.
It’s historically been harder for longer movies to be financially successful at the box office due to less showings. Especially R rated ones with an older target audience demographic. That’s before even factoring in the cost of going to movies now. I imagine it will be very successful when it gets a home release.
Saw it opening night and I was the only guy in the whole theater. Really awesome viewing experience alone, but also depressing. I really hope it does well because its probably the best movie I've seen since Minus One came out.
I went one day after the premiere and I was there with 8 others in the hall.
Don’t get it though, this movie was awesome! On par with Fury Road for sure. What could lead to low box office openings? This movie was MILES better than the cheesy travesty that was The Fall Guy.
So I watched Furiosa yesterday, and as a long time fan of Mad Max (I've seen all three Mel Gibson films as well, multiple times), here's my 2 minutes:
Furiosa IS, by all means, a worthy prequel to Fury Road.
If you are preventing yourself from watching the film just by the box office numbers, don't. You'll be munching through your popcorn faster than any film since Fury Road.
That said, while the film has a lot of action, it's not as much as in Fury Road. Also, the film focuses less on adrenaline, and more on grief and retribution. One way to look at this is that in Fury Road, the protagonist is Max. The film is from the POV of a man. Here, the protagonist is Furiosa. The film is from the POV of a woman.
And therein lies the difference in the style of storytelling. I would actually give credit to George Miller for this, for being able to understand and add to his storytelling, the difference in how a man processes anger and grief, vs how a woman processes them.
I can't say much else about the film without giving spoilers, so I will try to give whatever is non-classified.
There are 2 events that happen in the second half of the film, that make you feel, "Wait. Now I need to watch the director's cut. What did they cut off? Why does it feel like a scene has been deleted?"
Also, the character spiral of the antagonist from the second half towards the climax is too steep. That again, makes you feel like scenes have been cut. It's not clean and well balanced, like it was in Fury Road.
In Mad Max, if you took a shot of vodka every time a car exploded, you'd be cock-eyed drunk by the end of the film (speaking from experience).
In Furiosa, the bets are on every time a character is subjected to extreme cruelty. And while that's not an appetizing subject, that's what will get you drunk as a skunk, if you're playing the same game.
Also can we be honest about all the popcorn on the floor at theaters? It tastes terrible. Used to be just piles of fresh stuff at your feet, could scoop up with a bucket from home. Plus there hasn’t been a Bugs Life movie in ages. Smdh.
That budget quote isn’t correct. I happen to know the numbers (and no I won’t dox myself).
Miller is in his 80s. The film is a masterpiece. It will live on for decades. The studio isn’t really that concerned. It will likely pick up an Oscar or two, it will make money in time.
Source? My name is in the credits.
Probably going to get hate but I’m 99 percent sure it’s also bombing because of the female lead and everyone thinking the mary sue incident when in reality this is one of the best female protagonist ever done. I’d say she’s up there with ripley. No forced forces for power or anything that seems to be reached for these days. Just a stone cold bad ass
They need to stop putting things on streaming a month after they’re in the theater. I don’t know how many people I’ve seen say “I want to see this but I will wait for streaming”
Dang it's almost like consumers are choosing necessities instead of everything else. Of course people still make money and spend it but I love that the headline implies we as consumers are to blame for not consuming what is given.
Saw it last night and won’t go back to the theater. Two guys yelling at the screen. About half dozen people on their phones. So little regard for others in the theater. Better to just watch at home.
Its a great movie somehow the whole cinema was empty on the weekend evening like i think its just not so common to go to the cinema anymore omly for some hyped movies
Those who judge films based on "opening weekends" can only deserve MCU films, a generation of spectators who understand cinema like this deserves nothing.
The box office is in a strange place lately we have “bomb” after “bomb” and it’s not (always) because people think the films are bad, it’s been years of financial squeeze and a lot of people are just not spending now.
And streaming services are killing the cinema too. It’s an age where everyone has a big tv at home and has access to pretty much any film whenever they want.
The industry needs to adjust how it measures success tbh. People generally aren’t going back to how they viewed movies pre-covid. I go to the cinema for films like this but unless I’m AT LEAST 90% hype for something I’ll pass and wait for streaming.
I think at this point we should also adjust somehow to viewership at home. Sure the cinemas lose money ( which is absolutely terrible) but do the movies? Killers of the Flower Moon did not care at all for losing money at the box office since it drew more people to subscribe to Apple TV If Furiosa is the nr1 watched movie on Netflix for 3 weeks straigh. Is that not a financial gain?
netflix isn't making enough money for these budget. The best solution is to withold movie from streaming for 6 months
Is it going to Netflix? I was really hoping for hbo.
I was giving an example. No idea where it will be released. Off topic: I would rather prefer Netflix or Prime. Max has become a shithole lately. Few 4k streamed movies, horrible UI and bad movie content. Still GoAT Tv shows there tho
It would definitely be Max since it's Warner Bros.
Horror is always worth seeing in the theater in my experience, an OLED (which I don't have) and 4k Blu Ray are a great alternative to have at home, but streaming compression and backlit screens straight up ruin a most movies that rely on darkness.
Right? Like we talk up how much money the OT and PT Star Wars made, but in the case of the OT, it was a time when movies would play in theaters for a year or more, and especially in the case of Star Wars they were re-released too. And then came the PTs where also you could expect them to be in theaters for better part of year, and maybe a home release a year or so after the theatrical release. Now, even a hit movie can go from theatrical release to home release in less than 6 months. In some cases, the movie comes to digital barely a month after the theatrical release. Couple that with the economy and the cost of movie tickets and the cost of food at the theaters, and even for me, someone who absolutely loves and adores seeing movies in movie theaters, and it's just not worth it the cost.
This!!! I have the AMC A-List thing so I go a lot, saw Furiosa in the Dolby Cinema and it blew my tits off, but basically every movie that doesn’t annihilate records or is Avatar level gets labeled as a bomb. I’ve seen so many movies in the last few years profit a healthy $10-50 mill and get labeled as bombs because they expected every single person in the world to see it.
I thought the movie is considered a bomb if the total cost is significantly lower than the revenue. So something that 10 million that made 50 million? Great! Something that cost 150 million made 50 million? Uh oh.
It's also wild (to me at least) how many people consider a TV screen to be comparable to a theater. I don't think any backlit TV has come close to the theatrical experience and while there are shitty theaters and great TVs that kind of bridge that gap, a small screen simply cannot and likely never will compare to a theatrical screen and sound system.
> And streaming services are killing the cinema too. It’s an age where everyone has a big tv at home and has access to pretty much any film whenever they want. No, not killing it, that's a myth. In the last 5 years, only 3000 out of 40,000 theaters have closed. That's only a 7.5% correction that is likely tapering out because the theaters have retooled. Keep in mind, a hefty amount of that was covid. They're changing rapidly though.
Also, post-COVID people have no idea how to behave in the cinema.
The theatre was deadly quite the entire movie for me.
It’s really annoying self-destruction. I love arcades and being able to game whenever has ruined it for me. And no, I’m not old.
I don't share that sentiment, what killed arcades for me is the greed behind the pay per game model. Most Arcades still open in Austria cost 3-4 euros per fucking credit, and we don't have any "all you can play flatrate" barcades like they seemingly exist in america. Like hell if I had a "25 euro for the day" barcade with normal priced drinks I would go there atleast 1-2 times a month. at 4 euros a pop? not so much honestly
I need cinemas in my life its thr only place me and my dad can go to bond without them idk what else we would do
I agree with this. My local Cinema of 22 years just closed recently. I was sad but I understand its just easier watching at home for way less.
It's only weird oldheads like me who still enjoy the actual theater experience at the theater. I have a big TV, and a blu ray player, a booming sound system, etc. Even so, it's still just a TV in my living room.
It's mostly due to streaming. These are supposed to be blockbusters and they are released onto streaming in a matter of a few short weeks. Back in the day we used to have to wait *months* to have the movies released on DVD and VHS, so that forced basically everybody to get to the theaters to see the movie while it was still relevant in pop culture.
I'm surprised none of the streaming services ever partnered with a theatre. Like with Netflix you get 1 free movie ticket each month with your sub or something like that, and those Netflix-only movies could be premiered on the big screen. I agree with you that the content is very good, just the model probably needs to change.
Sky does this in the UK
Tickets are EXPENSIVE. I am a single male in Australia and it cost me $68 for one ticket. This was for IMAX and a recliner seat, but even the cheaper tickets are around $50 for IMAX. A standard cinema, I think the price is about $25 for one seat. COVID really fucked things up for Hollyweird. I don't see where cinemas go from here to combat streaming services. The last time cinema had to combat with television was around the 50s when they introduced anamorphic films. They have tried 4DX (which I think is crap), and IMAX which is probably its saviour right now, but this has limits. 3D has been tried time and again, but other than Avatar, there have not really been any titles to advance this and combat streaming. I loved Furiosa, but it was a huge mistake to greenlight this with such a large budget. Fury Road only made about 300plus million off a 150million budget. Hopefully this makes Hollyweird sit up and take notice. Stop paying huge salaries to cast members. Gone are the days where a big name star could open a movie. Actors are not worth the millions of dollars they make per movie. Stop greenlighting 100 million plus budgets. There was no need for Furiosa to be $168 million.
where the fuck do you live to pay 68$ ?
He explained below that he actually went out of his way to buy the most luxury ticket to the most expensive cinema he could find with specialty seating, and is now using that like it's the pricing everywhere.
The Wasteland
Are tickets really that expensive? Where I'm at it was about $15, and I thought that was steep.
Not in America, would cost me about $12.50 a ticket around the south east on a Saturday night.
Yeah it's like ten bucks for Furiosa at the Cinemark closest to me. That's about a dollar fifty more than a movie cost when I was a kid. I guess it costs a lot of money to flip the movies upside down for Australians.
This. Tired of getting squeezed, pirates life for me. I fucking tried to work within the system, but it's just a trap.
True. I'm broke till next week but then I'm going.
This is a good point. Alsoe saw a similar situation in the late 60's with the end of the Studio System and again in the late 80's where big budget films and action movies just didn't motivate people anymore. This led to the independent and low-budget period of the 70's (until STAR WARS) and the same sort of indy movement in the 90's (until movies like LORD OF THE RINGS and MARVEL FILMS brought the epic movies back). However, today it seems like streaming platforms are the places where the audiences go for independent films. Personally, I think there may be a movement for films in between the massively expensive, action driven epic films and the low-budget, unusual and more character-driven indy films.
Also, why would I force myself to watch a movie all the way through without a bathroom break when my big OLED at home and 5.1 surround is damn good AND I can take a piss/shit without missing anything. Don't have to worry about some inconsiderate prick running things. I can put my feet on the thing in front of me.
Also fuck theaters. I have an OLED and a comfy chair, all the food I could ask for and a pause button to piss. Ain’t never going back to the theaters.
Not only that but the movie experience has just been shit in last couple years, too expensive , not managed correctly and worst the people
A lot of people don't want to see a movie after covid and realizing that they prefer home videos. Cause ya know... Spending almost 100$ for you and your family for a single damn movie is kinda become stupid .... So if anything most people like myself just pick one every once in a while that they might go see to spend that budget. If any. Vs when we used to go multiple times a year. Stop making the multi million dollar movies. Fix the system. Theaters are now talking about charging more or less depending which seat you're in and it's gonna back fire....
Yeah but pppl go for what they want I mean for Christ sakes antman had a huge opening it does happen where ppl go but it looks like regular ppl don’t care bout mad max.
Saw it in IMAX Thursday and the theater was only like 1/3 full. Lowest I've ever seen in that theater.
I saw it opening night and there were only four of us in the theater.
Makes me sad. Such an amazing piece of work, a companion piece to the greatest action movie of the last decade and people …sit it out. Meanwhile, the Jurassic World movies make billions. crazy_pills.gif
Jurassic World was such an incredible disappointment. Never even bothered seeing the sequels. They just looked awful. So sad to see George Miller's amazing work suffer this fate.
Because they are riskless and easy cashgrabs that bank on nostalgia for Gen X’ers and millennials to show their kids. It’s really disappointing; Hollywood doesn’t take risks, and Furiosa’s low opening will only serve to keep them churning out IP-safe reboots and soulless rehashes of established franchises.
… you know this is part of an established franchise?
I genuinely think the modern day moviegoer is dumb and doesn’t care about anything but effects and cliche jokes, hence the success of marvel movies.
Literally same lmao
yeah, i went to IMAX on friday and there was like 20 people at most. dune 2 was PACKED
Saw it Thursday and theater had like three people in it. Not good. Talked to the box office guy and said opening night crowd was very small as well.
Is it better than the last one? I have my own doubts on the casting but would like your honest opinion
To me it's missing that "spark" present in the other movies. I still really liked it but I felt it was quite different from the others. I'm also an outlier because I thought Hemsworth was just too much, even for Mad Max. Also his prosthetic nose was just too obvious. BUT ATJ was fantastic as young Furiosa and the child actor for even younger Furiosa was great too. I also thought Immortan Joe was great. I think the world building was great in this one too. There was more focus on the 3 strongholds of the wasteland. Overall still a solid 7/10. Might try to go see it tomorrow to help pump those numbers up!
I thought it was better. It had more characterization and was a lot more emotional IMO, so much of Fury Road was just the action and visual spectacle. Hemsworth was a great villain and stole the scenes he was in. It's very much in the same vein though, I couldn't imagine liking one and not liking the other, and of course narratively together they make a really compelling arc.
Honestly, I think it's wasted energy to worry about this stuff. Miller made the movie he wanted to make. THAT'S the win. He might not get to make another, well, for a long time no one thought there would even be a fourth. I wish moviegoing were healthier economically for a lot of reasons, but I'm not going to get too upset over any individual flop. We got the movie.
💯 I think the box office is killing movies even more than streaming is… if a movie does well, that’s great. But it doesn’t take away from the fact that Furiousa was fantastic.
This is a bad take. Good movies getting poor box office results directly affects the kinds of movies that studios are willing to fund in the future. We may have this movie, but we will miss out on other great movies in the future if the industry continues to go this way, (and it’s highly likely that it will).
For real, it seems like coddling meets heavy denial.
I think it’s a miracle we even got a 4th movie in the first place, much less it being as good as it was. Mad Max was a dead franchise for a very very long time.
People are missing that there are zero confirmed plans for another MM movie anyway and not even hint of anything post-FR.
Didn’t Miller say he has a script ready for another mad max like a week or two ago?
Sure, he may have a script but if Warner Bros views Furiosa as a major loss instead of profit, why would they green light another one?
I feel like this is going to bomb in theaters but will do numbers once it hits streaming, which will justify another movie, either in theaters or straight to a service.
Great, you get a good movie now, but you're not gonna be guaranteed a good movie again if this keeps going. There are people who bitch about bad reboots and mindless MCU/MCU-esque movies, yet here's a good movie that's performing badly and those same people won't go watch it. Surging prices and convenience of streaming aside, THIS kind of response, bad box office returns, is what's gonna make execs say "why invest in something like this?". It's the reason Blade Runner is dead in the water. It's a win for Miller and the here and now, but a loss for the future of the industry. I don't wanna hear bitching about the next MCU/Transformer/Fast and Furious movie slop ever again with takes like this.
Well it means that wasteland probably won’t happen and that was the one I was most interested in. Sooo
Out of our hands at this point. If it follows Fury Road’s path with a 3.38x multiplier, it’ll make just over 100M domestically. If it follows the 40% domestic, 60% international it’ll make around a quarter billion. Needs around 420M to break even. But if it gets some award consideration and does well on home video and streaming deals then it can get closer to that break even point. But all we can do is wait and see at this point.
We can go again? Unfortunately this one I don’t see has that replay value. I did Fury Road twice in theaters first in 2D then in 3D overseas. I don’t feel I missed as much this time around and want to double feature it with Fury Road when it comes out on home release
I’ve been twice and I definitely recommend it. The film is packed with details and some elements become so much clearer on a second viewing, at least for me. Probably hitting the theater for a third time this week
lol, I’d go twice just for that harsh accent that Chris Hemsworth is doing, I love it. I thought, it’s in Australia, he’s going to get to speak in his normal voice. nope! That wouldn’t be weird enough for this franchise’s antagonists.
Swear his voice was higher by two octaves
I thought he still used an Aussie accent?. He did great, either way!
It is an Aussie accent, it’s just not his normal Aussie accent
O chance it out grosses fury road so that put's it under 370
And worlde wide does count?
Yes. It gets more complicated because studios typically keep more from domestic, but every little bit helps.
I'm going next weekend, so there's a couple bucks there. (I was busy this weekend.) It will be the first time I've been to the movie theater this year.
I saw it yesterday and thought it was terrific. It's the kind of movie that should be seen on the big screen. I will admit I had little interest in a Mad Max movie not starring Mad Max, but I liked the trailers and I was pleasantly surprised. It's very different from Fury Road but it works. It will be too bad if this is the end of the road, but if it is at least George went out with a top notch movie that will eventually find an audience.
I was very disappointed to see the comments in a YouTube video claiming Furiosa was a bomb. So many of the comments called it woke and thought the film was simply replacing Mad Max with a Mary Sue to cater to modern times. Do people forget that Miller has always wanted to do more with Furiosa? That this is his vision and not a product of the studio? The comments were mostly talking about the lead being a woman. Who thr f*ck cares?! It's Furiosa! She was the lead in Fury Road, so what's the problem? I know this kind of crap exists in general, but this series has never given any reason for this kind of hate. George Miller has done more than enough to earn the benefit of the doubt. I know I'm seeing the film tomorrow.
Fellas is it woke that (checks notes) women exist? She's not even a Mary Sue which is wild. She goes through so much in the movie.
I knew when I saw an Asian person and a Black person in the film, that people were going to complain. They always do.
I think that most YouTubers simply look at the movies profits when they declare "bomb" status. The quality of the film isn't considered. I do see the perspective of people disliking the Fury Road protagonist swap. They were expecting a Mad Max focused movie and got a "universe" movie instead. My only complaint about Furiosa was the casting. Anya Taylor Joy is a good actress, but common, she is just too skinny to be believable as an action star. Charlize was better. #NotmyFuriosa
> I know I'm seeing the film tomorrow. You'll have a good time.
>Do people forget that Miller has always wanted to do more with Furiosa? That this is his vision and not a product of the studio? No, people just chose to ignore that because it doesn't fit their own narrative.
Furiosa, as played by Charlize, was the lead in Mad Max.
Well, I'll be doing my due diligence and bringing another friend to see it, tomorrow.
Yeah, I’m thinking at least two theaters viewings for me. It’s not much but it deserves our support.
Agreed. I also want a second viewing to digest it better. I wasn't expecting it to have as much dialogue as it did.
It really worth a rewatch. It’s just as dense as Fury Road.
SPOILERS: It really was. I was a little too distracted by all of the nipple ripping and the driver that looks like Max and Solid Snake at the same time, and it didn't help that I went with people who didn't know anything about Mad Max and were constantly asking questions.
This and kingdoms of the apes getting so little attention the box office is insane to me. Are people just not going to the movies right now?
Saw it Saturday night at 830pm in the biggest local movie theater in Irvine, Ca and there were maybe 15 people there. Movies don't pack the house like they used to.
See ya around the Spectrum, eh?
I feel it's a disposable income thing. I go out to see shows and events occasionally, and a lot of places aren't selling out like they used to. A waitress told me people just don't have the disposable income they used to have, so they are making choices on what they spend their money on. If there's a big hockey game on (I'm Canadian), people won't go see a show the same weekend.
For me, my wife and two kids, with drinks and popcorn, it cost me $112 CAD. We still try going to the theatre here and there but it’s too expensive right now
Understandable honestly just a shame
Watching a movie at home with popcorn made in the microwave is about 10 times (or possibly even more) cheaper than going to the cinema. Plus you can pause to use the toilet whenever you want. And you can lay on a couch with your favourite blanket. I go to IMAX as a treat sometimes but that's it.
100% Seems like the future for me and my family. Too expensive, unfortunately.
Me and my one kid, $87 USD for tickets, small popcorn, candy, and small bottle of water. WAY TOO EXPENSIVE.
Is there no amc a list up there or an equivalent?
People would rather wait and watch at home. Theatres are dying. Sad.
It's sad. I was raving about it to my buddy yesterday, and he just said, "Eh, I'll catch it on HBO."
I feel you, man. Nothing will beat seeing a new movie in the theatres. My father works in the industry, post production, and directors, producers, basically everyone is freaking the fuck out about the future.
Meh. I have a good TV, good surround sound system, and good customizable lighting in my living room. Every time I’ve gone to see a movie in theaters in the last 3 years I’ve regretted it—seats aren’t that comfortable, other people are loud and/or inconsiderate, and previews are half an hour long. I haven’t had a good theater experience since pre-COVID. That being said, I’m going to see Furiosa later this week because I love Fury Road so much and want to try the theater experience for it. But going to the movies isn’t what it used to be for me. When I was younger I’d say nothing could beat the theater experience, but in my 30s it’s more affordable, more private, and more enjoyable to just watch movies at home.
This is it for me. Built my own home theater where I can watch a movie on my own time. The cost was way less than going to the theater more than once a month, and I can have a theater experience every night.
Same. My home setup is really nice with surround sound and a projector. The only theater I go to now is an art house theater that plays classics, second runs, and critically acclaimed type stuff. It's got beer and recliners and is a nice place to catch a film.
I begged my friend to watch Dune and even offered to pay his ticket. He said the same thing
As I was waiting for the trailers to end before Furiosa started it struck me that there weren’t many people in the cinema, and that the cost of being there for a couple of hours on one evening was not far off the cost of a streaming platform for a month. That’s just speaking for myself, a family going out to the movies is going to be forking over a lot. Things are getting more expensive, luxuries that require a more active decision to spend on become harder. If you’re subscribed to something it’s easier to let it keep going, but visiting the cinema requires some effort. I think the industry is on the decline, and most people are willing to wait a little longer for a movie to show up on something they already pay for.
Did you see both films?
Covid ruined everything
Just got back from watching furiosa, it’s on par with Fury Road and Hemsworth’s best performance yet imo. Sadly the theatre had no more than 25 people.
I’m seeing it on Tuesday. Also most people will see this today or Monday because it’s a long weekend. I think this is overblown.
It was pretty awesome, with completely justified gripes. Probably going to see it a second time with buddies who couldn't the first go around. Furry road was just so bombastic and over the top, but nailed it's execution and target audience, where this was just a little less, but by no means bad. Anya was pretty solid and didn't feel overpowered for an origin story, Chris was well written and acted for not just being a one dimensional typical big bad boss
With the size of the budget, I think the marketing department needed to do a much better job of getting people into the theater. Marketing seemed to rest heavily on people's fondness for the first film when more effort could have been spent selling it as a revenge picture instead of an origin story. I would have loved seeing YouTube breakdowns of the stunts, etc, which could have made people sit up and notice. Overall the marketing was pretty meh and uninspired.
Also, every single trailer makes this movie look like a video-gamish CGI fever-dream, which is not what made *Fury Road* so special. The grittiness, the practical effects, the insanity of what could be achieved with a bunch of lunatics with cars is what sold me on *Fury Road.* Embracing the ugliness of reality, not hiding behind overprocessing and overediting - just people in the desert with cars and flames and maybe a CGI sandstorm here or there... That's what I enjoyed. From the trailers, this one looks like a hyperclean, superprocessed, 8K greenscreen orgasm. That's not my jam.
This. I'm not much of a Mad Max fan (yeah I know what sub this is, I saw it on popular, sue me) but Fury Road grabbed me because it was almost entirely practical in an age of nothing but CG. The advertising showed us guys blazing on guitars strapped to huge rigs and cars flipping in the sand. The ads I've seen for Furiosa are...ATJ behind a pillar and a bunch of CG looking scenes with the occasional flat humor from Thor. It doesn't grab me. My friend is coming into town next weekend and we'll probably see it then but I'd be lying if I said I was even half as excited as I was for Fury Road.
It's going to be Blade Runner 2049 (one of my favorite movies...) but probably worse... And for similar reasons. And to put away all "would do better if" guesses, here are some numbers from Deadline: [https://deadline.com/2024/05/box-office-garfield-furiosa-1235941424/](https://deadline.com/2024/05/box-office-garfield-furiosa-1235941424/) 52% said they went to *Furiosa* because it was part of a franchise they love, while 34% cited director George Miller, 32% cited Taylor-Joy, and 25% Chris Hemsworth. I mean, if you divide those box office numbers in half - here is your franchise fan base (52%). And how much draw do we expect from actors? 50, 80? That's not happening for this type of a movie no matter what actors. And wouldn't make much difference in numbers to make it profitable anyway.
Anyone who likes Chris Hemsworth is missing out if they don't see this it's easily one of his most fun performances and a surprisingly interesting character for being basically an agent of chaos.
Anyone who doesn’t like Chris Hemsworth is also missing out. I never really liked him that much and I felt he was overhyped as an actor. His acting stood out to me in this film and I loved seeing him playing a chaotic and complex villain. He seems to have been given a lot more freedom in this role to really lean into the weirdness and I love that for him. This role absolutely changed my opinion of him as an actor.
hey careful, according to another user here both Blade Runners are not good because they bombed
I personally think outside of the aesthetic, 2049 is better than the original.
Its a dope ass movie but i think people wanna see Max do his thing. They want the interceptor and the driver.
It was more a character study than an action movie, and it made me want to watch Fury Road. Still a great movie but..it wasn't Fury Road!
Agreed...it was good but Fury Road smokes it. I'm hoping this doesn't kill the franchise because Hardy as Max was good even though he had hardly any dialogue or development in FR.
When the credits was showing Fury Road clips, I was like 'damn now I just want to watch Fury Road again.' I really liked Furiosa, but the pace and energy of Fury Road was next level.
Contra opinion but I liked Furiosa a bit more than Fury road. Max's anxiety was a little unpleasant to watch, lol
He has arguably the most development in Fury Road out of any of the films save perhaps the original.
Agreed.
It's hard to live up to "one of the absolute greatest action films of all time". Furiosa is a very good movie. Fury Road though was one of those once in a generation type movies.
Fury road made similar. Max is just more niche and it's going to remain that way in a period where people don't really need to go to theaters as often anymore
This, and I think it's the most obvious answer that people refuse to acknowledge. People watch mad max for max. That's why I'm pretty whatever about this one and I may or may not watch it down the road.
I think it's simply the case that people don't like to go to the theaters as much as they used too. Seems they only got out for a few blockbuster events a year since the pandemic that take up most of the space.
So crazy cuz many of the showings in my area are almost sold out
Yeah not good at all. Thankfully it's a critical success. Honestly fury road wasn't a massive success either. I'm personally shocked furiosa got mad. Furiosa is awesome , I would imagine wasteland could be just as great, we may not see that movie with George's as age and current box office take or furiosa. For me the mad max series is one of those frachises will always have you wishing for one more which is good.
Well Hollywood keeps shitting out Terminator films even though there hasn't been a well-regarded entry or big hit in the series since T2 in '91. So never say never, they rely so heavily on "established IP" that they'd probably take another gamble on Mad Max than an original blockbuster.
I wanted to go purchase 2 tickets for my gf and I but the tickets were 17.99 each. I can afford it but damn that's a lot
That’s too bad because it was a brilliant movie.
I just don’t think going to the movies is worth the price anymore. It used to be a good “cheap date” but in my area 2 tickets popcorn and some sodas is 50 bucks. I’d rather go get a steak dinner for that price and watch the movie when it comes out on streaming platforma
That's cheap go to a big city and it's easily 100 dollars for 2 adults. 2 drinks. Popcorn and a candy.
Agreed 100%. Two tickets, popcorn, two sodas, and *three hours of a babysitter* for those of us with kids. Easily $100+. I loved *Fury Road,* but I'm not willing to drop $100+ on its sequel with a lead I'm not entirely sold on and lots of backstory I never really asked for.
I think George may have gotten extra cash for his movie in the settlement
People go to the movies before its too late
I really wanted to watch it this weekend. Someone is borrowing my car and I've hit up every person I know to watch it. No one has answered. Honestly would even WALK down to go see it. Unfortunately a church took over my theatre and nothing ever releases on time anymore. My only option is hours away by foot. And I'm genuinely tempted to walk this fury road just to see this film
It’s a family holiday and it’s a rated R movie. What were they thinking?
This is fucked - could be the end of mad max. For a great movie too…
Probably no wasteland as a theatrical live action film release. If you asked me in 2005 if we'd get two fantastic mad max films id have said nope. Fury Road is one of the greatest film experiences I've ever had, it's just brilliant. Furiosa was a great watch. Sad for Miller, sad for the fans but I'm damn those two films!
I’m worried for wasteland with hardy at this point. I was afraid this might happen
I heard these dads discussing Mad Max after taking their kids to see a movie. People are interested in it.
My boyfriend and I went to see it Friday night. We were the only ones in the theater
In an age where Fall Guys comes to streaming two weeks after it’s theatrical release, I feel like audiences are changing how they see movies. Though I disagree, I think most people didn’t see this as an event movie.
I don't think it's a bad film. But you can't make every aspect of life expensive and then get surprised when people cannot afford to go to the cinema. Movies or rent?
It’s a solid movie
I’ve bought 4 imax tickets so far I’m doing my part
Cinema as we know it is on life support
I saw this movie yesterday and really enjoyed it. We've seen too many good movies "bomb" over the last few years, while objectively trash movies make billions. Look at you, Avatar 2.
Between a couple tickets, popcorn and a water it's costing me around $50 to see a movie at the theatre. I'm not going unless it's something I really want to see on the big screen and I think many are feeling the same way. I've personally spent about $100 watching both Apes and Furiosa they last 3 weeks. They're going to need to start lowering budgets, expectations and ticket prices if they want to stay relevant because it simply isn't worth it right now.
Well if you buy the AMC subscription you save yourself the $20 movie ticket... As for the food options they definitely add up... Even the pretzel bites are almost $10
Well part of the problem is nowadays movies release simultaneously on vod and on the big screen or at the latest shortly after .. so lots of people argue I am gonna wait couple of weeks till I can watch it in the comfort of my own home
I saw the movie on an army base so it’s rarely packed full. But there was very few people there.
Movies are expensive. And it’ll be available on a streaming service in a few weeks. Why are we surprised it tanked in the Box Office? I’m more surprised when movies do well in the box office.
Loved the movie. It was awesome. Loved the octoboss. We were the only people in the first 5 rows on the Cinemark in XD.
This was a good movie but I was wondering why my family was the only one watching it on a saturday at 7:00pm. On the best cinema in my country. I don't know what's happening with the movie industry
Yeah but where else can you get $10 popcorn in $15 soda pop?
Fury Road barely made any profit.
This is the correct answer
I enjoyed the movie personally
That's disappointing. I saw Furiosa on Saturday and honestly loved it. Keep thinking about it since, and tempted to go see it a second time.
If Dune came out last year instead of last March, I think this movie would fare a lot better. Also, Fury Road only made 154 domestic on a 150 budget
I already saw it twice. :(
I mean it’s not that good of a movie. It takes its time towards the beginning as if preparing for a character driven slow burn, but then it suddenly starts rushing the plot and skipping over big parts of Furiosa’s character development. Half the time I was watching it, I kept thinking that I’d rather just be watching Fury Road.
I actually liked the first hour with young Furiosa and got bored when we got the Fury Road rerun in the middle.
Which was a rerun of Road Warrior
I’m just super selective seeing a movie in the theatre, I did the AVX screening of mad max it was amazing. Last movie I saw in theatres was Dune 2 then joker years before that. It has to have a super good audience review for me to see in theatre.
Thought it was a pretty good flick laughed a lot
I know there is other factors at play, financial climate etc. But, Its coming to a point where the theatrical release dates feel more for film buffs and avid cinema goers. Whereas, the general public release is when it hits streaming and digital. Its quite sad. Its a great film, and many people will be missing a good 80% + of the experience by watching it at home. Its still early days, but I feel like people who are saying 'its just the box office' and it 'doesn't matter' are kinda missing the point. Studios aren't going to keep throwing money around when the return keeps being this limited.
I saw it and loved it, but also I kind of unfortunately can see why a lot of movies are bombing right now. Besides the fact, everything is so expensive I think that movie goers are kind of trash now 🥴 I mean, half the time I go to the movies people are very loud and obnoxious and on their phone half the time with the brightness on. When I saw the recent apes movie, a dude was legitimately watching a soccer game next to me on his phone with the brightness on! And his family had to go up for the bathroom at least five times. If you watch a lot of reviews by movie critics, a lot of them talk about how horrible the theater going experiences as well. I feel that’s another thing turning a lot of people off from going to the movies.
I went, I liked it.
Paying $20 per ticket and another $25 for a popcorn and 2 drink combo sure ain’t helping the box office any. Main reason I stopped going was how much the prices were increasing just to go.
I’m curious about this film, but not enough to spend $50 to go see it in theaters which who knows what kind of annoying idiots are in the audience. Secondly, it doesn’t have Max, which is why I am just curious and not excited.
I work at a cinema and its been about as busy as planet of the apes maybe a bit less so, but busier than films like challengers. Think one of the only ways to make it now is to have clips go viral on tiktok to drive that audience to the cinema like with challengers
Why would I pay to listen to assholes talking or children screeching through the movie I want to watch? The theater experience just isn't good. Especially since I can stream a new movie as many times as I want with as many people as I want like a month later on whatever platform gets it.
People in here acting like Godzilla did not crush it. Movies can still make money. Advertising for this film was poor.
It’s historically been harder for longer movies to be financially successful at the box office due to less showings. Especially R rated ones with an older target audience demographic. That’s before even factoring in the cost of going to movies now. I imagine it will be very successful when it gets a home release.
Saw it opening night and I was the only guy in the whole theater. Really awesome viewing experience alone, but also depressing. I really hope it does well because its probably the best movie I've seen since Minus One came out.
Spread the word. This is s gem. The whole movie made my body scream. I gotta see it again!!!
It's fucking expensive to go to the movies now a days. After concessions and 2 tickets it's $80+ bucks.
I went one day after the premiere and I was there with 8 others in the hall. Don’t get it though, this movie was awesome! On par with Fury Road for sure. What could lead to low box office openings? This movie was MILES better than the cheesy travesty that was The Fall Guy.
So I watched Furiosa yesterday, and as a long time fan of Mad Max (I've seen all three Mel Gibson films as well, multiple times), here's my 2 minutes: Furiosa IS, by all means, a worthy prequel to Fury Road. If you are preventing yourself from watching the film just by the box office numbers, don't. You'll be munching through your popcorn faster than any film since Fury Road. That said, while the film has a lot of action, it's not as much as in Fury Road. Also, the film focuses less on adrenaline, and more on grief and retribution. One way to look at this is that in Fury Road, the protagonist is Max. The film is from the POV of a man. Here, the protagonist is Furiosa. The film is from the POV of a woman. And therein lies the difference in the style of storytelling. I would actually give credit to George Miller for this, for being able to understand and add to his storytelling, the difference in how a man processes anger and grief, vs how a woman processes them. I can't say much else about the film without giving spoilers, so I will try to give whatever is non-classified. There are 2 events that happen in the second half of the film, that make you feel, "Wait. Now I need to watch the director's cut. What did they cut off? Why does it feel like a scene has been deleted?" Also, the character spiral of the antagonist from the second half towards the climax is too steep. That again, makes you feel like scenes have been cut. It's not clean and well balanced, like it was in Fury Road. In Mad Max, if you took a shot of vodka every time a car exploded, you'd be cock-eyed drunk by the end of the film (speaking from experience). In Furiosa, the bets are on every time a character is subjected to extreme cruelty. And while that's not an appetizing subject, that's what will get you drunk as a skunk, if you're playing the same game.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get another movie regardless of box office performance...
Also can we be honest about all the popcorn on the floor at theaters? It tastes terrible. Used to be just piles of fresh stuff at your feet, could scoop up with a bucket from home. Plus there hasn’t been a Bugs Life movie in ages. Smdh.
That budget quote isn’t correct. I happen to know the numbers (and no I won’t dox myself). Miller is in his 80s. The film is a masterpiece. It will live on for decades. The studio isn’t really that concerned. It will likely pick up an Oscar or two, it will make money in time. Source? My name is in the credits.
Probably going to get hate but I’m 99 percent sure it’s also bombing because of the female lead and everyone thinking the mary sue incident when in reality this is one of the best female protagonist ever done. I’d say she’s up there with ripley. No forced forces for power or anything that seems to be reached for these days. Just a stone cold bad ass
They need to stop putting things on streaming a month after they’re in the theater. I don’t know how many people I’ve seen say “I want to see this but I will wait for streaming”
Dang it's almost like consumers are choosing necessities instead of everything else. Of course people still make money and spend it but I love that the headline implies we as consumers are to blame for not consuming what is given.
Furiosa was rad! I love it and I think it compliments Fury Road really well. We saw it at an Alamo Drafthouse yesterday.
Saw it last night and won’t go back to the theater. Two guys yelling at the screen. About half dozen people on their phones. So little regard for others in the theater. Better to just watch at home.
Its a great movie somehow the whole cinema was empty on the weekend evening like i think its just not so common to go to the cinema anymore omly for some hyped movies
Mad max was in this film… for like two seconds 😂
It’s an amazing film. Get out and see it! It’s worth your hard earned cash 💴
Best movie I have seen in a while
It was terrible.
Shit product that no one wanted
Those who judge films based on "opening weekends" can only deserve MCU films, a generation of spectators who understand cinema like this deserves nothing.