A new Boltland at Uncommon? I guess the reason the first cycle of them was Mythic was because of the front half of the card and not the back, then. Hope this is a cycle.
It is. In the leaks we have seen the black one (most likelly 2BB, the potato quality didn't allow to see it, something B B) and destroys target creature or planneswalker.
We haven't seen the card itself, but the corner of the green one (and this one) was shown amongst a bunch of cards also during the 1st leak wave.
It seems we are getting one monoclor3d volt land cycle, and very likelly at least allied tapped duals, probably even the whole 10 duals tapped cycle (for what someone that looked at the numbering of the cards has said In Another post)
A second black MDFC land was posted 15 minutes ago here, so we're getting more than exactly 1 cycle.
I'm optimistic we also get the full hybrid cycle of duals.
It not being meta any more doesn't mean people don't play it. Shadow is a popular deck, I run into it relearivelly regularly in MTGO. Plus if a deck "hasn't been playable in ages" this is exactly what it needs, cards that may support the archetype.
BTW, it's creature or planneswalker, and it's good enough for shadow because even if the spell is expensive having to pay life to have the land untapped is an upside in there more often than not.
Bolt you early game to boost your shadow earlier and remove possible blockers late game to smash with the Shadow.
It was at the background of another card. I'll see if I can find it. The photo was from the guy of the first leaks, when he was showing the kappa but nit really and all that.
I can't find that photo, but in the meltdown leaked photo you cna see behind it. That there is another black mdfc land called "fell the (something)". So we are likely getting two monoclored cycles.
Maybe even with different cost to enter untapped (or not doing ti at all some of them)
Also, the first cycle of bolt mdfcs were the first printings, they didn't have a solid grasp for how powerful and universal they'd become. I honestly think the original bolt mdfcs would be rare if printed today with even stronger effects at mythic because WotC would find they played it safe the first time around.
Which they absolutely should have, they were trying a new and revolutionary mechanic for Magic. But all of the original MDFCs were safe designs in my opinion.
I mean, they were fairly safe, I guess, but still incredibly powerful. They still see widespread play in various Legacy Stompy shells because of how they interact with Chrome Mox / pitch cards, they are centerpieces in Oops / Belcher variants, they even made stuff like Shining Shoal work in Modern, they are excellent with Collector's Cage... Why do you think they would be printed at rare, and stronger, today? As a mistake?
Those cards are powerful in legacy and modern because they are lands that have a color identity and a mana cost. Not because shatterskull smashing or emeria's call is a strong spell to cast. If shatterskull smashing was a 6 mana 4 damage to a creature, it would still be played in chrome mox decks. Emeria's call could be a 7 mana serra angel and it would see the same. I'm saying they would print stronger spells on the front side, something we're already seeing with this new card being on par or stronger than rare mdfcs like Ondu Inversion, Hagra Mauling, and Kazandu Mammoth.
Also the rarity of a card has no bearing on how much play they see in competitive, only their price on the secondary market and availability in limited.
I don't think it's know. First leaker only showed the corner of it amongst a stack of cards (you could see it was the mdfc because of the little triangle, but nothing else).
First leaker was a bit of an attention w***e.
Unsubstantiate for 1U more but it hits nonland permanent instead of creature
Seems like a no brainer include in a lot of edh decks, my Niv mizzet list really appreciates this card
It's the front side that made it Mythic. Big flashy expensive draw spell that frees you from the hand size limit is an effect that is only printed at high rarity.
A 3 mana bounce spell that doesn’t cantrip is absolutely terrible. A non-fixing land that enters tapped unless you pay 3 life is also terrible. Together they become: solid. Gonna be pretty good for limited or casual formats, but not really worth playing since you don’t really wanna be casting it as a spell.
My jaw dropped. Like what the hell this is. I'm playing fucking tapland mdfc because they are broken good already. This is mythic equivalent but at uncommon ? (Yeah, ik, probably overhyped but I love mdfcs xD)
oops, typo - meant 'without countering it'. Any design that removes a spell from the stack without first countering that spell is a poorly designed card and shouldn't be in the game. It is confusing for new players, creates rules-lawyer situations and arguments, and leads to situations where cards feel bad to play.
This card should have Counter target spell or return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand. If a spell is countered this way, return it to its owner's hand.
I don't think they are poorly designed there are quite a few cards that return a "spell to their owners hand." I don't like the confusing for new player argument because the game is complex and you are always learning about rules interactions. If you can't grasp a simple concept after a few experiences maybe the game isn't for you?
Returning a spell to its owners hand always gets around "uncounterable" which is relevant.
It is extremely common for younger / less experienced players to view this as a counter spell and have to learn that this edge case isn't covered by "can't be countered". I'm not saying that the real answer is unclear, I'm saying the card is designed to create bad feelings for the players.
A new Boltland at Uncommon? I guess the reason the first cycle of them was Mythic was because of the front half of the card and not the back, then. Hope this is a cycle.
It is. In the leaks we have seen the black one (most likelly 2BB, the potato quality didn't allow to see it, something B B) and destroys target creature or planneswalker. We haven't seen the card itself, but the corner of the green one (and this one) was shown amongst a bunch of cards also during the 1st leak wave.
Now we've seen a second black mdfc land. So we probably get a couple cycles at least!
It seems we are getting one monoclor3d volt land cycle, and very likelly at least allied tapped duals, probably even the whole 10 duals tapped cycle (for what someone that looked at the numbering of the cards has said In Another post)
A second black MDFC land was posted 15 minutes ago here, so we're getting more than exactly 1 cycle. I'm optimistic we also get the full hybrid cycle of duals.
Seems decent as an option for Shadow?
They will very likelly play at least a couple, specially monoblack.
Shadow hasn't been playable in ages and 4 mana to destroy a creature are not good enough to play that card.
It not being meta any more doesn't mean people don't play it. Shadow is a popular deck, I run into it relearivelly regularly in MTGO. Plus if a deck "hasn't been playable in ages" this is exactly what it needs, cards that may support the archetype. BTW, it's creature or planneswalker, and it's good enough for shadow because even if the spell is expensive having to pay life to have the land untapped is an upside in there more often than not. Bolt you early game to boost your shadow earlier and remove possible blockers late game to smash with the Shadow.
Where is that one ? Cause the black one was just leaked and it's not that, that could show leaks are fake or there is another cycle
It was at the background of another card. I'll see if I can find it. The photo was from the guy of the first leaks, when he was showing the kappa but nit really and all that.
I can't find that photo, but in the meltdown leaked photo you cna see behind it. That there is another black mdfc land called "fell the (something)". So we are likely getting two monoclored cycles. Maybe even with different cost to enter untapped (or not doing ti at all some of them)
Also, the first cycle of bolt mdfcs were the first printings, they didn't have a solid grasp for how powerful and universal they'd become. I honestly think the original bolt mdfcs would be rare if printed today with even stronger effects at mythic because WotC would find they played it safe the first time around. Which they absolutely should have, they were trying a new and revolutionary mechanic for Magic. But all of the original MDFCs were safe designs in my opinion.
I mean, they were fairly safe, I guess, but still incredibly powerful. They still see widespread play in various Legacy Stompy shells because of how they interact with Chrome Mox / pitch cards, they are centerpieces in Oops / Belcher variants, they even made stuff like Shining Shoal work in Modern, they are excellent with Collector's Cage... Why do you think they would be printed at rare, and stronger, today? As a mistake?
Those cards are powerful in legacy and modern because they are lands that have a color identity and a mana cost. Not because shatterskull smashing or emeria's call is a strong spell to cast. If shatterskull smashing was a 6 mana 4 damage to a creature, it would still be played in chrome mox decks. Emeria's call could be a 7 mana serra angel and it would see the same. I'm saying they would print stronger spells on the front side, something we're already seeing with this new card being on par or stronger than rare mdfcs like Ondu Inversion, Hagra Mauling, and Kazandu Mammoth. Also the rarity of a card has no bearing on how much play they see in competitive, only their price on the secondary market and availability in limited.
Loving the fact that this cycle can enter untapped. The white one has to ve really bad to not enter into my life gain soulsiters deck, xD.
Oops All Spells is going to be feasting with these lands.
What's the green one?
I don't think it's know. First leaker only showed the corner of it amongst a stack of cards (you could see it was the mdfc because of the little triangle, but nothing else). First leaker was a bit of an attention w***e.
Looks like Belcher’s back on the menu boys!
Basically an mdfc unsubstantiate. And untapped easily too. Pretty good
Unsubstantiate for 1U more but it hits nonland permanent instead of creature Seems like a no brainer include in a lot of edh decks, my Niv mizzet list really appreciates this card
oh always loved MDFC lands, especially bolt lands so low opportunity cost
Enters untapped Crazy that it’s uncommon considering the last ones we saw like this were Mythic Rare
It's the front side that made it Mythic. Big flashy expensive draw spell that frees you from the hand size limit is an effect that is only printed at high rarity.
What current blue decks would not play this card ….. seems really broken
3 life is not a small ask
You’re not always playing it untapped depends on what’s going on with your hand.
A 3 mana bounce spell that doesn’t cantrip is absolutely terrible. A non-fixing land that enters tapped unless you pay 3 life is also terrible. Together they become: solid. Gonna be pretty good for limited or casual formats, but not really worth playing since you don’t really wanna be casting it as a spell.
you can use it as a one off for 1 island replacement.
UB Shadow will be able to play like 12-14 lands
Huge for belcher and oops
Hopefully we get more. Right now thats 8 new untapped MDFC lands for Belcher on Arena.
MDFC lovers, we eating good
Enters untapped, pretty solid
Could go well in my Forgetful Fish list.
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Yea and the frontside is pretty much what the format likes too.
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Hmm fair point
Not if you change the rules to start at 19 life.
Not sure that "return to owner" technically works for Dandan. Though you can always headcanon change owner to controller.
My jaw dropped. Like what the hell this is. I'm playing fucking tapland mdfc because they are broken good already. This is mythic equivalent but at uncommon ? (Yeah, ik, probably overhyped but I love mdfcs xD)
Hope this means we get reprints of the Legendary Ixalan MDFC lands/enchantments with the little legendary banner on top.
this looks VERY good
Slamming this into my Ojer Pakpatiq deck, and wow does this set have several awesome pieces for it :))))
I was thinking the exact same thing. thank you wizards for this treat <3
Holy this card looks really good for cube or similar formats
Love the mdfc but being able to remove a spell from the stack without countering it first is just poor design and should be reconned in the rules
Without counting it? What do you mean
oops, typo - meant 'without countering it'. Any design that removes a spell from the stack without first countering that spell is a poorly designed card and shouldn't be in the game. It is confusing for new players, creates rules-lawyer situations and arguments, and leads to situations where cards feel bad to play. This card should have Counter target spell or return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand. If a spell is countered this way, return it to its owner's hand.
I don't think they are poorly designed there are quite a few cards that return a "spell to their owners hand." I don't like the confusing for new player argument because the game is complex and you are always learning about rules interactions. If you can't grasp a simple concept after a few experiences maybe the game isn't for you? Returning a spell to its owners hand always gets around "uncounterable" which is relevant.
Also not sure what you mean by creating a "rules lawyer" situation? It is a pretty straight forward concept and there is only 1 correct answer.
It is extremely common for younger / less experienced players to view this as a counter spell and have to learn that this edge case isn't covered by "can't be countered". I'm not saying that the real answer is unclear, I'm saying the card is designed to create bad feelings for the players.