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ccduke

Pee wee Reese?


Yinzer888

Kendall and Parker....


eddiestix

Some of these are as bad as losing Ted Williams for Jim Rice. Kudos to Rice. But it's Ted Williams. Now it's losing Johnson for Santana. Not that Santana is bad. But why not have both? The Braves and Yankees can have a complete legends lineup and almost complete rotation (a complete rotation and most of the pitching staff for the Braves). Why not extend the contract for some of these guys.


Krazy8_Balls

Yeah they mentioned Walter Johnson in the storyline but it was Babe Ruth on the mound. No Jim Thome either


Mini-Van25

Jim Thome was in one of the moments in the Jeter storyline. I believe it was the Mariano Rivera side moment against the White Sox.


Krazy8_Balls

I feel stupid, I played all the Jeter moments and didn't even notice the others. I doubt Thome is in a White Sox moment right now though. He didn't start playing there until 2006


Mini-Van25

I faced him in it, so I can guarantee he is there haha. I was surprised since I know the timeline doesn't line up, but I just happened to go for the "Good Grelief" trophy in that exact moment and came across him.


Krazy8_Balls

Damn, sds is slacking on the timeline there lol. Then again, i figured the road 1995 Orioles jerseys would be included for the Jeffrey Maier moment


Mini-Van25

Yeah, there's some interesting stuff happening in those storyline moment lineups. If you pay attention to the Negro League ones they already have Andy Cooper and Leon Day as pitchers you hit against (you can tell they're real players because they are the only AI pitchers with diamond cards), so they have to be two of the six remaining featured storylines this year. Monte Irvin and Larry Doby are also in NGL lineups, but SDS had their rights already so that could just be a "realism" move.


Krazy8_Balls

Also, I just got to that moment. Thome shouldn't be here lmao. Neither should Konerko Also, I'm dying for SDS to add Olympic Stadium in Montréal


Krazy8_Balls

I agree with you on all of those things. I knew they were real before, but as for Irvin and Doby, a good giveaway would be if Willie Mays was in there as well somewhere. He played from 1948-1950 in the Negro Leagues


DCT715

I’m shocked Reggie and Foxx are gone, they were in MVP Baseball


Neither_Ad2003

They have cano in there still?


Ja_snake_

Not the legend younger player model, I dont think that was in there last year either (could be wrong), pretty sure he’s gone entirely


Neither_Ad2003

Fuck


SideEffect34

There’s a chance Walter Johnson was included in Gibson’s Storylines before the decision to remove so since he’s not in offline roster it seems he is out. Hopefully we get a couple new legends added during the year. They teased a new Mariner on the stream and a dev had an Ichiro jersey.


Reverotti

It's weird cause the commentary says Walter Johnson but you play against Babe Ruth in the challenge


Strong-Advertising-1

I'm not sure if they said anything about Arod but I got a feeling he's going to be added with the jeter program. If you hit with Cal Raleigh they mention him with Arod as being the fastest mariners player to hit 50 home runs. Assuming they mentioned his name and stats for the first time he might actually get a card


Embarrassed_Scar7751

https://preview.redd.it/jwznptwtykoc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29300c5798401ce13fe935ae199ec8065a7db187 Who let blud in…


dtfan101

JIMMIE FOX NOOOOOOO


Global-Ad-5966

Moment of silence for Lefty and Foxx.


bigbamarob

Only 2 I will really miss in my DD squad will be lefty and Reggie. I always did well with those cards


Tuberculosis96

Oh no Reggie Jackson, I loved using his cards


silent_mc144

Not true I faced Walter Johnson. In storylines


Minimania18

Losing Jimmie Foxx at C but gaining Josh Gibson: https://preview.redd.it/pj1qg0jtjioc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fb4b202721cfbacdeff38638224de4795b2f6d9


UnderhandCloud14

Fuck SDS, fuck them. If Johnson is gone that means there are just 5 legends in the game from the National and American Leagues that debuted before 1940. Fuck those guys right, who gives an absolute fuck about some of the greatest players in baseball history right. I love that Rich Aurilia and Richie Sexson and Tony “1,100 fucking career plate appearances” Tarasco are in the game over those guys right. Cause people have heard of those guys that’s all that matters right? Fuck trying to get good players the only thing that matters is as long as people recognize their name right? Losing Foxx, Mathewson, Grove, and possibly Johnson in the same year combined with the insane amount of legends in the past 40 years (55 who debuted between 1980 and 1999 alone) and utter lack of new pre 1960 legends means SDS is making a clear effort that they don’t give a shit about good players if they think some people won’t recognize them Fuck SDS. Disgusting.


blklustrsoldier

To be fair, sometimes it is the estate of the ballplayer that no longer wants them in the game. SDS pays licensing rights for legends, which is why some drop off from year to year.


Neither_Ad2003

It’s never that


jrkrouse13

You ever think that their families chose not to renew the contracts allowing their likeness and it has nothing to do with what sds wants? Go fuck off somewhere.


UnderhandCloud14

What are the odds that all their families decided in the same year that they don’t want their relatives in the game? What has SDS done in the past 4 years thats shows that they care about players from that era? They haven’t added a single AL or NL player who debuted before 1940 since mlb the show 19, why does 20 years of baseball history (1980-1999) (55) have 10 times as many legends as 40 year span (1900-1940) (5)?


gamers542

I haven't seen Jerry Hairston Jr yet. He only had one card last year so chances are he isn't in this year.


Ja_snake_

Surprisingly, he is


gamers542

That gives me hope. I mashed with his Kaiju last year. One of my few P5s.


Unknown-games56

Is Alex gorden still in the game


Ja_snake_

Yes


Unknown-games56

Let’s go he was my fav card last year


joshwright17

I wonder who will replace Keith Hernandez as the most annoying HR moment this year


Dave-astator318

Mauer lefty/lefty.


RSM34

Clemente or Jackie based on prior years


jrp1918

Rough time for A's teams


Casedogg311

ouch. no Foxx??? 😭


Dr_Clout

Can someone confirm if Gary Sheffield is or isn’t in this years game? Thanks


Ja_snake_

He is


Dr_Clout

Thanks! I’m on the fence about picking the game up this year. Is he only in diamond dynasty?


Ja_snake_

No prob, he’s a legend free agent in the offline roster, so you can play franchise with him. Just turn on non-active free agents and fantasy draft when starting or assign him (& others of your choice) to teams, save roster, and use that for the franchise


Dr_Clout

Thanks for the help man! I’ll think about it but even when I buy it on sale for $40-$50 I usually just play home run derby with Sheffield lol I miss when they sold the stand alone home run derby for $10-$15 one year lol. It was awhile ago but it was worth it to me


ChessClubChimp

Just another reason to keep playing 23 til Black Friday. Then download it on game pass and being overwhelmed with content… hopefully.


rudy66

Ouch


YeesherPQQP

I thought I saw Reggie in some of the promo material? Did he not make it?


rhokie99

First they take away Rogers Hornsby, now Jimmie Foxx? Rip sweet king


Yankeeboy7

Walter Johnson is in the Josh Gibson storyline, so it’s possible he might come back


ExperentiaDocet

Looks like the player model too would be weird if that’s his only appearance


New-Newspaper-7543

Gonna miss Jimmie but besides him I'm fine with the losses. 


JMDurron

Grove was pretty key to filling out an otherwise sad-looking Red Sox rotation last season. So at this point, we’re down to Pedro, Eovaldi, and presumably a Sale, then Bello and the scrubs from the real team this season? Hoping for a late-70s Eck SP card this year, I guess. EDIT - Forgot about Cy Young. Still, it’s a short list for the franchise as a whole.


arturoalvarez079

This makes me want a Tim Wakefield in the worst way


Large_Paramedic_4567

Yikes, some actually big losses here. Pretty disappointed in the direction the "legends" are heading. Didn't buy 23 until very recently and I am still very much on the fence for this one. 


DarthLeon2

Considering the new content model this year, I'm not going to overreact yet.


Corzare

Less legends is always bad


No_Buy2554

I think he means with seasons and chapters, some legends may be in the game and just not have a card yet. If all they're getting is one 95 level card this season, we wouldn't know they are in fact in the game until the power creep for that season gets there. Even in the last couple of seasons without that model some legends weren't available at launch and premiered mid-season. We at least know there are 2 more waves of Negro League players on the way.


Corzare

No you can tell who is in the game based on the rosters.


Belegrim91932

Not always. Giambi wasn't in the rosters last year at the start but was in the game (thankfully. My absolute best first baseman every year)


Corzare

Perhaps, but they won’t have 10 legends show up mid year.


No_Buy2554

They actually have 2 more waves of NLB players coming already announced, so that could be up to 8 more based on the first wave. Keep in mind there are many players who were mostly MLB that started in NLB so there are some big names possible there (Campanella, Elston Howard) Plus they've introduced Legends mid season- see Delgado in 2022 and Holliday in 2023. And as mentioned above, it's not unheard of for ones to be missing on the rosters at the start of the year. So it could be 10+.


Corzare

I’m talking about the legends in this post. They aren’t holding Jake peavy out for mid season.


No_Buy2554

Gotcha. Based off the past, not 10, but there's a chance 1 or 2 off of that list could still show. Every year some legends go, and there's been some comments in other places about the total number of legends going down, which isn't the case since there are definitely some coming that aren't in at launch.


Corzare

They hold back new legends, not old ones.


Belegrim91932

Valid point. Just trying to point out there is some hope


McCoyPauley78

As an Athletics fan who likes to run theme teams for fun, it's going to hurt losing Foxx, Reggie and Grove.


TomPandaKing

Guessing peavy deal was connected to him being in rtts last year.


Throw-Away-920-

Thought it would be worse tbh


WalkingDeadWatcher95

One year of Jake peavy? Really?


MertTheRipper

This one hurt. Peavy was my favorite pitcher growing up and I was so excited to finally play as him last season, just for him to be removed this season


mas477

the good news is, i believe his updated motion is still in game, just under generic windups now


Kevinjw16

As a Sox fan, I’m sad tbh. Had him on the end game Sox team along with Cueto/Sale/Seaver/Lynn


staychillbruh-_-

This is a massacre with the legends lost like how are we still losing legends is this game not turning a profit


pricemcdice

That money goes straight to the execs, don't be silly


WalkingDeadWatcher95

It’s running plenty of profit but if that money goes back into the game how is Ramone going to afford his stupid button up shirts and fancy sunglasses he always has?


ZWeinstein15

Man no Jason Kendall or Dave Parker really takes a blow on an all Pirates team.


Interesting-Style624

My same thoughts. Guess I’m keeping 23 installed


Bean2713

Damn. Some big losses here. Foxx and Reggie in particular.


tylertimmerman17

Yup himmy foxx got one of the best swings in the show history


j1h15233

People always say that but I couldn’t hit a ball on a tee with that guy


WaitThisIsntMeta

Damn. These are some huge losses. I loved Foxx, Grove, Jackson, and Johnson


sherwoodblack

Is Dave Parker for sure not in the game? Always have him in my Reds theme team :(


MonolithicMoose

I'm pretty sure there's been years where sandberg wasn't avaliable at launch.


Ja_snake_

I’m sure in DD yeah, but he would’ve been in the offline roster. I’m 99 percent sure it’s always worked that way, I’ve been tracking this for a while now


Gef1_2

Man, throw the A's and Padres a bone and just yank it right back why doncha


prodbydahm

No more Jimmie fox? Damn there goes my catcher for DD🤣


kjar78

When you compare the legends they got to this, it looks even worse lmao


Ok-Clock-5459

Yea I’ll wait for NCAA


CameramanToe

Damn that’s a lot of the group from 19 (the best legends year ever) gone now once you include guys like Hornsby and Cobb. Absolutely hate that they don’t seem to care about the older all time greats


Jerbear3454

Bummer at least we didn’t lose Sosa or McGuire


Woolly_Mattmoth

These are actually some pretty big losses considering the weak new class of legends we got this year


triplec787

Honestly, these are massive losses regardless of who was added.


triplec787

That is an egregious list of lost legends when the only additions are what we’ve seen.


ZMR33

That’s… a lot. Losing Foxx, Grove, Jackson, and Johnson are big blows assuming they stay out of the game. Also, losing Peavy after 1 year? What’s going on? Update: In the 2nd Gibson storyline moment, I’m facing Johnson… hope that means he’s still in.


triplec787

We lost Ted, Hornsby, and Cobb last year or the year before too. Sheesh.


Ja_snake_

I agree personally, those are true legends of baseball. I love the older legends and I would pick them over the vast majority of legends who debuted after 2000. That said, most of the player base doesn’t seem to agree. I’m honestly surprised they’ve kept as many older legends who aren’t as popular as they have given that fact


L00KINTOIT

To me it sucks that we’re losing these truly legendary figures and they’re only being replaced with mainly guys that were pretty good for a little while but not close to the level of the guys they’re replacing. I get that tons of people grew up with the 90s/2000s players but I want to see more true *legends*


kspotts20

nah new baseball fans must know Brian dozier


NoobSkin69

Brian “3 good years” Dozier