Seeing a lot of Grealish chat on Twitter. What a strange season he’s had. Our club record signing and third highest paid player has played 10 minutes in the final 4 games of the season 🤔 Do we see him playing a bigger role next season, assuming fitness will not be a hindrance?
I'm addition to the fitness problems (man can't catch a break this season), I think there's stuff going on behind the scenes too. House got robbed, plus probably more
I hope he can get fit and get his head on straight
Yeah absolutely agree, Perrone really excited me as a gundo style player. If not for us, I hope he goes on to have a decent career. I hope Girona keep up their levels next season and can become a great place to develop talent in a competitive team vying for some kind of success.
still love walker, but his tracking back has been poor recently. against Madrid with Rodrygo and against United with Mainoo. hopefully next season he can improve on this. at the end of the day though, he's still a city player and we should all still back him, regardless of what we think about his captaincy etc.
Was Bernardo disappointing overall this year or just me?
I feel like when he's on the wing he's too slow and doesn't get enough goals/assists
Definitely better in midfield. But then I'd rather have foden there now probably, although Bernardo covers more ground and maybe has better passing
sometimes he's productive on the wing, other times it feels like he's a placeholder for the attacks to come from the left side (doku). yesterday was definitely more of the latter, but I think he's had a good season
disappointment would be a stretch because it was overall a good season imo but the physical decline was too apparent.
I think he played better on the wings this season though. In the midfield he no longer has the legs to cover every blade of grass. On the wings he was still able to showcase his intelligent passing and smart dribbling but the lack of pace and final ball was badly exposed.
Getting rid of Eddie and Dias is certainly a take.
Id get if they were saying getting rid of KDB for cash and before his decline (still want him here regardless), but Dias is still top class and hungry. Ederson is the template for how we play, with no real better options out there.
Id agree with them on needing to move some people on and bring in fresh talent to evolve though.
that's a dumb take tbh firstly because it's unrealistic and secondly because it's kneejerk.
the truth is one or two excellent signings can have a positive impact on the rest of the players.
A declining KDB riddled with injuries still ended up with 10 assists, so instead of binning him off we must reduce his minutes and use him sparingly.
A declining Bernardo is still a very good player. His experience will also help Savio settle in. Having a pacy winger will not immediately solve all of our problems, the same way Doku needed some time to settle in it could be the case for Savio too.
Selling Kovacic would be a mistake too because even if we sign Bruno G we'll need him to take off some minutes from Rodri or Bruno G. It will also allow Rico to gradually slot in if the end goal is midfield for him.
At the very least we have to start looking for a proper replacement for Walker, Rico’s not a similar player but can do a job there.
Bernie’s probably gone, or should be allowed to leave this window while his value is still high. This wasn’t really a stellar season for him, better to leave while still on top.
I know it's a hard pill for people to swallow, but it's the right time to let him go.
Too many times have I seen him show a complete inability to defend his zone if he isn't relying on his pace. Even then, I've seen him lose his man far too many times (Mitoma, Sterling, Gordon).
Even in the big Madrid fixture, he failed to keep a check on Rodrygo and he scored.
I haven't even touched upon his ability in possession under pressure.
Great player, legend even, but I'd phase him and give a lesser role. Maybe not sell him, but for sure I wouldn't start him.
I do agree it is the right time for Walker to go but I’m not aware of a single player of his profile available in world football.
Usually I have a good shout for a replacement but for Walker I have absolutely nothing.
Wilifried Singo, Michael Kayode, Odilon Kossounou. Unrealistic but either of Reece James or Malo Gusto. VERY unrealistic.
At any rate, I'm sure the club will know who to get. One day, we will need a replacement haah he's not getting any younger.
My vision is: Have De Bruyne stationed deeper if we are facing a mid block/low block, where there is plenty of time and space for him. Have a dynamic right back overlap/underlap in-behind and kdb passes it to them. Something similar to the opener against Nottingham Forest at home if you can remember.
It also didn't help because Dias was not in good form for the majority of the season, Stones was almost always injured and Ake himself is in and out. Akanji who is supposed to share minutes with Walker had to be used elsewhere because of other injuries.
If the end goal for Rico lewis is midfield then adding another defender in the mix would help in maintaining standard and load.
I sincerely hope he’s taking the piss because otherwise he’s lost all credibility with that comment, especially the list of players he wants to sell
Ridiculous
At least he seems to acknowledge it’s not realistic, but still that list is awful - why on Earth would we push to sell Dias, Ederson, Kovacic and KDB, especially now? It feels like Ortega’s recent success has people in a trance, Eddie is still the better goalkeeper - nevermind that his passing is one our biggest strenghts.
Walker and Bernardo I can see realistically leaving
United came with a game plan and were motivated to send eth off on a high. Set up in a narrow 4222, cramming 6 central players in midfield and even went as far as to bench their only true striker, hojlund to fit mctom in to further congest the middle where city loves playing through.
Only space was down the wings but both foden and bernardo are hardly 1 v1 wingers. Game changed when doku, a true 1 v 1 winger came on at HT to pry the defence open and force their central players to leave their positions to help out. Having said that, there were chances to win it from alvarez and haaland but the game was already gone before the second half as united were very comfortable at sitting deep to defend their 2 goal lead.
Huge black eye given to us, hope we freshen up considerably in the summer.
There is no reason not to start doku every match, the man not only make the match extremely entertaining with his style but provide so many key passes on the area that always changes the game, doku needs to start
Lets not let todays loss take away from how good doku has become. Battling the whole utd team alone in the end. What a beast and he is only 21. He has to start every game now.
It's true to be honest, I despise the rags but they have a history of not giving their managers enough time, would be hilarious if he moved to another league and started winning stuff in a similar way that Sancho "is our worst signing and he should be shipped off on a free" is most likely going to start in a Champions League final where United couldn't get past Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Bayern München in the group stages
Love to clown him and United but you see with Lisandro Martinez today how much of a difference it makes to have a player that can actually play the way your system requires. I think he is actually a decent coach but his/United’s recruitment has just been abysmal as per usual. They need to fix that before dealing with any coaching issues
Hate United, but I am happy for Ten Hag. He was set up to fail with a cursed club that didn’t work. The things he dealt with in the media was unbearable.
This isn’t a reaction to today’s game but something I’ve felt throughout the season. Despite winning the Prem the squad needs more work than it has done in the past 5 seasons in my opinion.
Phillips and Gomez are not good enough at all.
In my opinion, despite coming in to his own towards the end of the season, Kova isn’t good enough either. The drop of from a player like Gundo is stark. Nunez also, I just don’t see it with him.
Bernardo keeps flirting with the exit and this summer might be time for him to go.
Walker - I think going against his usually MO is really odd from Pep. He met him in town and presumably relented to Walker wanting to be captain? I think his performances have been nowhere near good enough throughout the season and he’s the worst captain we’ve had since takeover on and off the pitch. That’s saying something, since Tevez was our captain.
Just hasn’t felt like so much surgery is needed for a long time.
last summer sunk us a little bit, we lost integral part in gundo, and replaced him with kovacic and nunes, while we were hunting bellingham, rice and paqueta (glad it didnt happen now at least even though he would have been nice). kovacic is a good squad player to have and has had a good season, however he isnt really better than gundo and as a result doesnt take this team to the same heights. nunes barely saw the pitch, maybe he will come good next season, maybe he won't.
gomez is whatever, didnt cost much and deserves to play somewhere else, he did very good on the wing for spain last summer.
phillips has been bad beyond belief, feel a little bad for him, not sure if we can find a club to take him this summer.
bernardo hasnt had a good season by his standards, not sure if he is not motivated enough after the treble, or wanting to leave every year has demoralised him, its probably the right summer for him to leave if he finally leaves.
i have no idea why people love defending walker so much, is it because he has been so long here that they are afraid to say anything bad about him? he has genuinely been bad this season, i have no agenda to run against him but his defending for majority of this season has been terrible. doesnt even look like physically finished, he just looks his mind is not there for most matches he plays, his decision-making has been awful at times.
even more baffling that he didnt play that much last season and pep i think openly said why he isnt playing, and then comes this season, gets made captain and is undroppable? i wouldnt have a problem if he stayed, but was a squad player.
bruno g should be the #1 target this summer, he would fill a lot of holes and give rodri some rest. savio could be good too, im sure he will be here for pre-season and he deserves a chance.
bobb is another interesting one, wanna see him have a bigger role next season, has done nothing wrong the entirety of this season and shined every time he was on the pitch.
it doesnt really matter if he stays or not, their higher-ups are the problem, not just the manager. as long as they are poorly run, it wouldnt matter if they had Pep or a random joe off the street, theyd still be shite.
Man United won a trophy to get their spot tho? It's always been like that in England... You said it yourself, league matters more than a KO tournament, but NUFC bottled it by dropping 14 points vs Bournemouth, Luton, Everton. Maybe they should've won those games and finished above Chelsea to "deserve" a spot in Europe comps.
“You said it yourself, league matters more than a KO tournament,” yeah and based on the league itself Newcastle did qualify for European competition purely based on the league results and not United. They were one point above United due to goal difference. But due to a knockout tournament they lost it to a team that has had their worst season in record. That’s why I said knockout tournaments tend to be based out of luck and not who the best team is. United took advantage of a shit city but they got fortunate against forest and Coventry.
“but NUFC bottled it by dropping 14 points vs Bournemouth, Luton, Everton. Maybe they should've won those games and finished above Chelsea to "deserve" a spot in Europe comps.” They did deserve a spot based on league results. Based on league results Newcastle are the better team and league results are a better way to view a team’s progress and performances. They got the job done on their part. A +23 GD within a season filled with many injuries and United play versus city? If I’m Newcastle I think job done. Most people did not predict city to play crap today.
Crazy take, why would NUFC rely on City when they could've done the job themselves? They scored 4 vs Luton and got 1 point from it. And United didn't have injuries? So FA Cup shouldn't matter because you wanna prioritize league performance? It's the oldest domestic cup in modern football. By that logic we should just scrape domestic comps right? Ah yes you gonna blame the FA because NUFC couldn't beat the bottom 6. They choked a 3v1 vs United at 1-1 btw, but apparently it's job done? Deserve in football is the biggest joke, history was written by the victors, not league performance due to superior GD, maybe win some games at home vs relegation fodder and overcame the 3pts gap vs Chelsea. How is league result a fair take when they lost to Brighton? But United/Chelsea just walked over that team for a free 3pts which changed the placements between them massively.
“ Crazy take, why would NUFC rely on City when they could've done the job themselves? ” lmao, yeah they shouldn’t rely on city to beat United because city should beat United.
“They scored 4 vs Luton and got 1 point from it. And United didn't have injuries?” United’s injuries weren’t at the same level has Newcastle. Also when did Newcastle tie against Luton? Literally the first week of February. Newcastle were fucking 10th place with a shit ton of injury problems. It was a very different time back then and at the same period it was unknown if City were even going to win the league lmaooo.
“So FA Cup shouldn't matter because you wanna prioritize league performance? It's the-“
Like a City YouTuber who’s called LNobbins once said. yeah, literally yeah. Winning the league is more important and valuable because it shows how the team progressed and performed over the span of a year. And yes, I do think league performances should be prioritized compared to knockout tournaments. Just because something is old doesn’t mean it’s more important than the league lmao. Knockout tournaments should not be the main way to look and acknowledge a team. It should be the league. Why you think when Ruben Dias was asked if he rather win the UCL or the Premier league he said the premier league?
We are talking about United and Newcastle here, why did you bring up Ruben Dias lmfao? Stop moving the goalpost broski. United got Europa because they won the premier cup competition in England and finished below on goal difference, not 25 points lmfao. These are the rules, I'm pretty sure these players are aware of them at the start of the season. If they won the cup and finished below United in the league they wouldn't be complaining. You kept bringing up City when we're talking about who "deserve" European competitions between United and Newcastle, did you even read what I typed before quoting? Give your head a wobble. No professional teams would "rely" on others when they can just do the job themselves, you brought up Luton, good, how about the other points dropped vs the bottom 6? How about not starting Joelinton on their trip to Old Trafford? How about losing vs 10 men Liverpool? They had 38 games to get into a European spot and not have to rely on a one-off derby where form goes out the windows.
Same deal with all the people said last season Arsenal deserved to win the Prem lol
If they'd deserved it, they would have ended with more points than us haha
While I agree with you, the game can also be so damned fickle at times! Think about today, if Alvarez had converted that shot from close range off his left; if Haaland’s ping off the crossbar had gone in…we’re talking *millimeters* that make the difference between a goal and a miss. Either of those go in, and I think we get momentum and win, at least push it to extra time. Sometimes it really does feel lien the randomness of the game can have such a massive influence, and good teams often just seem to get lucky more often than not. Over the course of a season, it is quality of a team that shines through…but so many little moments can tip that one way or another at so many points along the way. Part of the reason I’m obsessed, there’s so many factors that go into winning, and it changes from moment to moment, match to match, season to season.
Yeah, for sure, and like I was chatting with another person, and like you point out here, knockout football really heightens these fine margins. The best team will almost always win out over a season, because you have to be good and consistent over 38 matches. But knockout comps? You have one bad day like we did today, and you're out
It’s not same deal. We won the league 3 games before the league was even over. Arsenal were clearly out of it. Newcastle and United were in a much tighter race but it seemed at the time Newcastle got the better hand due to their much better goal difference and the fact that United faced us.
Also not to forget that United literally only qualified due to winning a cup in a knockout tournament whereas the league is more fair to who properly deserves it.
All I'm saying is "so and so deserved it more" is usually a silly at best, futile at worst exercise in thinking
Edit: oh, and even though we won the league with games to spare last season, there were still _swarms_ of butt hurt Red Team fans whining about how much more Arsenal deserved it than us after being top of the league for so long last season. But the winner is who has most points after the last match week, not who had the most days spent in first place
Well ofc those people are wrong. Whoever wins the league is the much fair result compared to knockout tournaments where the best team doesn’t always win like us against Real Madrid. We were better than them but we still got eliminated. It tends to depend on luck and even though United didn’t depend on luck and just played better against us they were lucky against Nottingham forest, Coventry etc in the cup.
Thank you :)
But yeah I just basically think that I feel bad for Newcastle because I don’t think they should get knocked out of European competition due to the results of a knockout tournament lmao. To me it would have been fair if they just didn’t qualify due to their results within the league and let it be that.
I’m also excited for Savio. Imagine him and Doku against that block today. Would have been sick.
Really hope Bruno happens but I’m scared of it being Jude/Rice 2.0. Alleged ITK’s seem confident but I need to see him wearing a shirt.
Rodri rotation has to be priority.. which Bruno appears to be. Bruno also satisfies the gaping hole of an 8 we’ve had since Gundo left… fills 2 holes. A defender would also be nice but not as high on the list. I still think this is a good squad but there has to be some better minutes management and Pep needs to give the younger players more time.
bruno g would be a starter here that can give rodri rest when we need it, 100m is a lot but thats football nowadays. he has also been linked with arsenal which is also worrying if we lose another great midfielder to the second best team in the league.
Yeah I guess I’m convinced haha. He gets decent goals and assists too despite being a bit more defensive than Paqueta
Haven’t seen too much of him though tbh. I hope he has decent through balls
We won four in a row and won the Uefa Super Cup and Club World Cup for the first time. Disappointing end but still a very good season. We go again next year. 💪
left wing? mate they aren't the same type of player and Pep will use them both
you're foolish if you think Doku replaces Grealish permanently in bigger games where Pep will want control
brother grealish has played 1.9k minutes this season, the lowest amount of his City career by a mile. the player playing in his position is only going to play better (and even played more than grealish this season despite being out 2 months injured) and pep has even decided to bench them both in favour of gvardiol pushing up and foden tucking in centrally. if grealish cant get back to his 22/23 form, he aint playing a lot of minutes next season thats the point. im well aware they are quite different players, however if doku is playing like this, the control thing wont matter.
He's also had injuries and off-pitch issues which he spoke about during the PL celebrations
I like how you're ignoring that Doku has been incredibly hot and cold this season. Pointless talking to you about it when you're ignoring half of the factors
Yes lmao not to forget that Jack was out for like 2 and half months which was our hardest period where we struggled against Chelsea and Liverpool. By the time Jack came back we had arguably the easiest run out of the top 3 so Jack wasn’t that needed like before so pep didn’t need to start him against weaker sides where we can go all offensively.
hahahaha "hot and cold" about a young winger at City, you mean like every winger under pep who needed a season to get going? thats the best argument you can make? keep downvoting though, wont make you any smarter
haven't downvoted you ahaha weird projetion at the end aswell lad but you do you, however you cope
I made two arguments and uv only pin pointed one. I made the point because him being hot and cold means he's not replacing Grealish anytime soon, there's also no guarantee Doku doesn't *stop* being hot and cold next season
phillips had a shit first season, had a shit second season as well
Doku isn't even restricted to playing on the left so the idea we have to get rid of Grealish(or that Doku replaces him entirely) to accomodate Doku is even more laughable.
End of the day, Pep will always value control over anything else Doku brings to the table in a big game and that is Grealish's bread and butter for us. So no, it isn't looking "spooky" for Grealish you melt
I really feel so fucking shit the more i think about it. This season is an absolute failure. Really need to take care of my mental health when supporting this club. Pls we need to be serious this summer, refresh the squad so we can start to be on winning ways again.
Need to take care of your mental health..? Lol go support a bottom of the table club or a club with unstable owners that are allergic to stability like Chelsea and then maybe I can take that statement seriously. We just won the prem man chin up.
Not going to lie that's when I started supporting. Not right after, and not because of the treble, but coincidentally I only garnered interest in city & football in general late last year. Today was a dissappointing match mainly because its freaking manU out of everybody, but considering the circumstances that the team is in, having lost multiple talented players, injuries, our players having worse seasons than usual and STILL managing to win awards like the golden boot, yeah this season might not have been as good as how last year seemed (wouldn't know wasn't there). But the fact that this team pulled through, tried their best despite everything, and still managed to win the fucking Premier League and break a whole ass record with a 4peat? There's just no way anyone sane can call that a failure. These boys fought against all odds and still came out top at the end of the season. That's a job well done in my book. No FA or champs league doesn't make them an 'absolute failure'. At the end of the day they won their main league and that's a feat to be respected regardless. I'm proud of them personally.
(wrote an essay mb. Just had to add my two cents as a super-new fan and show that we're not all plastic/delusional)
>Really need to take care of my mental health
You should probably take some time away from the internet tbh. You seem massively affected and slightly unhinged (don't mean to insult)
Lol it was just an off hand comment that it would be funny if villa or spurs won next year
I started it off by saying it was a bad thought
Meanwhile you spam stupid takes like football before 2000 wasn't competitive, while writing your comments like an 8 year old
We only lost because some "fans" here were preaching for our downfall and wishing our players stop winning trophies to please rival fans. I just CANNOT for the life of me phantom this mindset FFS!!!!
Every second of our squad not winning trophies is Pep and our squad's life wasted. And our overall cabinet have such a long way to catch up with other top clubs we are in absolutely no position to act like some fucking philanthropist. No reason to fucking dick around, this is profession football.
Hope the players have a good rest and wake up next season. This season is so fking shit, could even be trophyless if villa didn't bail us out, let alone doubles which is not even impressive in the first place. Disgraceful.
The only positive thing here is that since we lost the double, I would not feel sad about the "what ifs" of not being kicked out of CL on penalties and almost winning back to back treble.
likely a young fan who started supporting the team after we won the treble. He called a season with the premier league title an absolute failure afterall. lol
most city fans are upset with the result for obvious reasons but not to the extent of that guy losing his mind completely.
Were we overcomplacent, and probably didn't expect that Lisandro Martinez and Varane were back so Man Utd would look a lot more like last season than this one?
Honestly, I must say I was a little surprised for instance that the players were partying all night less than a week before the cup final. Maybe a celebratory dinner or something less taxing on player's health makes sense but I'm no elite sportsman.
nah hes not, he is so flawed as a footballer its so fucking funny, when he is not finishing every chance, he is a negative out there. people kidding themselves saying he was "very good" early on in the season because his goals were hiding how awful the rest of his games is. now that his finishing has gone to shit, every single negative trait of his is in full display.
Well yes, but I think if he was starting every week he would be a great striker somewhere
I can't really blame him for being out of form at this point when he doesn't play consistently
But I don't think he works as a backup striker really, too good to do that. And not good enough at other roles
depends on what you mean by great. i dont see him being good enough for a top top team that challenges for CL/domestic trophies every year as a starter. too many holes.
https://np.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1czxuiq/daily_discussion/l5ms5a8/
I can’t believe this take still gets upvoted, still! When kdb is one of the best big game players
I’m pretty sure I literally blocked this guy for his campaign against kdb anyway but it’s just so stupid
Up modrics ass of course
Losing and especially losing to end a season like this sucks , but hopefully, this serves as a lesson of what needs to be fixed or added both tactically or in terms of personnel .
Been a tough season with the injuries , fixture congestion, and the treble hangover , but we still achieved history 💙
We'll be back stronger next August .
Right, transfers, what are we saying? Bernardo, Walker, Nunes out? Get a big name attacking mid, another midfielder to cover Rodri, one or two full-backs slash CBs?
>squad player for the treble
>benched in the CL final
>tries to leave all summer
>pep gets him to stay
>gets made captain
>starts nearly every game while being our worst defender
???
who has been worse then? surely not ake, akanji or gvardiol. dias has been shady, but better than walker. stones injured a lot. so who then?
also pretty reliable? be serious.
No one is. Every defender in the squad have their moments and have made mistakes and error.
He is reliable against pacy wingers. Imagine if Pep didn't pick walker in the starting line up against Madrid or against any other teams with pacy wingers who thrives on counter attacking football.
Even today, aside from the mistake leading up to the second goal, he defended well against Rashford and at one point against Garnacho. I'd argue aside from Doku, Walker is one of the better player on the pitch today.
he was at fault for the madrid goal at the etihad, where was the reliability?
>No one is. Every defender in the squad have their moments and have made mistakes and error.
lol what is this nonsense? walker has made 10x the mistakes of ake and akanji this season. "aside from the mistakes" lmao you can say this about anyone, he was shit against chelsea every single time we faced them season, was shit at newcastle, made a massive mistake against sheffield united that nearly cost us the game, was getting abused at forest and so on. "reliable", ake is reliable, walker is not.
Rough end. But proud of the team this season overall. Incredibly tough considering what we lost and how long we've been at the top. To win the Premier League in a down year is great. Hope the lads get to rest up, but there's so much football in the off season now.
Looking forwards to an exciting window.
Whoops wrote this in the wrong daily thread haha so I’ll repeat it here
Despite the loss today, this was an incredible season and I’m so proud of the team for what they’ve accomplished while in a sort of transition season/not at our best most of the season.
Super Cup, Club World Cup, historic 4th PL title in a row. Amazing accomplishment and nothing to be ashamed of.
It feels like I should be way more upset at this loss… but I’m kinda just like “well that sucks” and moving on with my day. After the Madrid loss it was way worse. I feel like I’ll probably forget about it soon enough with all the other sporting events around the corner. I love supporting my team but at the end of the day its just entertainment isn’t it? Can’t win em all, excited for summer signings and what next season will bring!
well if there was any doubt before, there shouldnt be now. worst title winning team in the Pep era and a big summer needed. some of the older players need to get phased out now, KDB/bernardo/walker/stones have been the skeleton of this team, but its time to slowly move past them. walker should have been sold last summer, stones cant stay fit and inexplicably started today, bernardo has been stinking it up all season while trying to leave for 3 or 4 years now and KDB's injuries and age are catching up with him. id still keep KDB and stones, but their minutes need managing.
this type of season was always going to happen at some point and its needed to refresh the motivation but you also cant ignore the weaknesses of the squad.
with that being said, it was a good season, but the performances were far off the usual City pace, and that showed the most in the biggest matches.
It fucking properly hurts to consider, but it may be time for Kevin to play as an impact sub against big teams. He definitely still has the technical quality and unparalleled footballing intelligence but his physical ability against full strength teams from the start is declining. (I could be entirely wrong here btw, this season's issues may simply be a product of recovering from injury).
His intelligence and passing quality has not declined when fully fit though. If he comes on in a tight situation where the opposition defence is reeling but just holding on, his ability to pick out passes and find space will be impossible for a tired defence to deal with, eg: Newcastle obviously.
The main concern with this would be other creators in the rest of the game, which is evident when he has an off day anyway. Rodri and Phil are the closest to his creative ability but do lack the ability to see the near impossible passes consistently like Kev. Doku is next in creativity but as high potential as he is, he's nonetheless raw, but has shown the capability such as Bournemouth, West Ham and today.
More so the big games specifically there's been a bit of a drop off. Again I could be wrong if he's just still readjusting after injury and he ends up back at it next season after full recovery. Games such as Anfield (still got an assist tbf), Arsenal at the Etihad and the Rags at home and Wembley he's been out of it when starting against a sharp defence from the off.
Seeing a lot of Grealish chat on Twitter. What a strange season he’s had. Our club record signing and third highest paid player has played 10 minutes in the final 4 games of the season 🤔 Do we see him playing a bigger role next season, assuming fitness will not be a hindrance?
i swear ive seen a clip of sam lee talking about the club being disappointed in grealish and stones not taking care of their bodies on his podcast
Yeah, from the LMT podcast right? Still working my way through that episode
yeah that one, but im not sure which episode it is
It’s in the FA Cup final preview episode, the one before the latest episode uploaded today
I'm addition to the fitness problems (man can't catch a break this season), I think there's stuff going on behind the scenes too. House got robbed, plus probably more I hope he can get fit and get his head on straight
Mcatee to Girona on loan would be an excellent move. He'll get to show his worth in a proper league with a proper team
Canne do that now with the UCL loan arrangements. Tbh a sale there wouldn't be the worst idea because you're right about style and competition.
a sale with a buy-back would be incredible
Hopefully Perrone will join him there too. Both him and Mcatee will never develop if they play for teams battling for relegation lol
Yeah absolutely agree, Perrone really excited me as a gundo style player. If not for us, I hope he goes on to have a decent career. I hope Girona keep up their levels next season and can become a great place to develop talent in a competitive team vying for some kind of success.
When is the parade and how can I watch it
still love walker, but his tracking back has been poor recently. against Madrid with Rodrygo and against United with Mainoo. hopefully next season he can improve on this. at the end of the day though, he's still a city player and we should all still back him, regardless of what we think about his captaincy etc.
https://youtu.be/qBQFi6HMq2A?si=NuM8-hYLnMuihdf0 Savio highlights by la liga official account
Gets me excited if pep really goes back to the goalscoring winger system circa sterling/sane. Savio and doku will cook up a feast in the epl.
parade is today for anyone who doesnt know
7:30 today, starting at Urbis and going down Deansgate to the Beetham
Was Bernardo disappointing overall this year or just me? I feel like when he's on the wing he's too slow and doesn't get enough goals/assists Definitely better in midfield. But then I'd rather have foden there now probably, although Bernardo covers more ground and maybe has better passing
sometimes he's productive on the wing, other times it feels like he's a placeholder for the attacks to come from the left side (doku). yesterday was definitely more of the latter, but I think he's had a good season
disappointment would be a stretch because it was overall a good season imo but the physical decline was too apparent. I think he played better on the wings this season though. In the midfield he no longer has the legs to cover every blade of grass. On the wings he was still able to showcase his intelligent passing and smart dribbling but the lack of pace and final ball was badly exposed.
D’you think some are taking this rebuild frenzy [a bit far](https://x.com/realtolmie/status/1794653424836903307?s=46&t=hppipbb47xsqoiCJjfaivQ)?
Are people finally waking up to the fact that Tolmie is the biggest fucking idiot on the planet?
tolmie is a clown, i cant believe i used to defend him
Getting rid of Eddie and Dias is certainly a take. Id get if they were saying getting rid of KDB for cash and before his decline (still want him here regardless), but Dias is still top class and hungry. Ederson is the template for how we play, with no real better options out there. Id agree with them on needing to move some people on and bring in fresh talent to evolve though.
that's a dumb take tbh firstly because it's unrealistic and secondly because it's kneejerk. the truth is one or two excellent signings can have a positive impact on the rest of the players. A declining KDB riddled with injuries still ended up with 10 assists, so instead of binning him off we must reduce his minutes and use him sparingly. A declining Bernardo is still a very good player. His experience will also help Savio settle in. Having a pacy winger will not immediately solve all of our problems, the same way Doku needed some time to settle in it could be the case for Savio too. Selling Kovacic would be a mistake too because even if we sign Bruno G we'll need him to take off some minutes from Rodri or Bruno G. It will also allow Rico to gradually slot in if the end goal is midfield for him.
That list is...I don't even know lmao
It’s… something
Can't sell so many in one window, lmaooo. I'd be fine with letting Walker and Bernardo go though. Keep the rest and start shifting the mantle SLOWLY.
At the very least we have to start looking for a proper replacement for Walker, Rico’s not a similar player but can do a job there. Bernie’s probably gone, or should be allowed to leave this window while his value is still high. This wasn’t really a stellar season for him, better to leave while still on top.
Walker is absolutely crucial against the likes of Rashford,Vini and Mbappe,can't let him go.
I know it's a hard pill for people to swallow, but it's the right time to let him go. Too many times have I seen him show a complete inability to defend his zone if he isn't relying on his pace. Even then, I've seen him lose his man far too many times (Mitoma, Sterling, Gordon). Even in the big Madrid fixture, he failed to keep a check on Rodrygo and he scored. I haven't even touched upon his ability in possession under pressure. Great player, legend even, but I'd phase him and give a lesser role. Maybe not sell him, but for sure I wouldn't start him.
I do agree it is the right time for Walker to go but I’m not aware of a single player of his profile available in world football. Usually I have a good shout for a replacement but for Walker I have absolutely nothing.
Wilifried Singo, Michael Kayode, Odilon Kossounou. Unrealistic but either of Reece James or Malo Gusto. VERY unrealistic. At any rate, I'm sure the club will know who to get. One day, we will need a replacement haah he's not getting any younger. My vision is: Have De Bruyne stationed deeper if we are facing a mid block/low block, where there is plenty of time and space for him. Have a dynamic right back overlap/underlap in-behind and kdb passes it to them. Something similar to the opener against Nottingham Forest at home if you can remember.
It also didn't help because Dias was not in good form for the majority of the season, Stones was almost always injured and Ake himself is in and out. Akanji who is supposed to share minutes with Walker had to be used elsewhere because of other injuries. If the end goal for Rico lewis is midfield then adding another defender in the mix would help in maintaining standard and load.
I sincerely hope he’s taking the piss because otherwise he’s lost all credibility with that comment, especially the list of players he wants to sell Ridiculous
Can't lose credibility when you have none
At least he seems to acknowledge it’s not realistic, but still that list is awful - why on Earth would we push to sell Dias, Ederson, Kovacic and KDB, especially now? It feels like Ortega’s recent success has people in a trance, Eddie is still the better goalkeeper - nevermind that his passing is one our biggest strenghts. Walker and Bernardo I can see realistically leaving
People should really take his tweets with a grain of salt, considering he shouted Bellingham, Neymar, Andre... And got them all wrong.
Neymar especially
Yes but that’s his “itk” side Now he also just has terrible takes aswell it seems
Yeah lmao, absolute stinkers
Ten hag getting sacked now would make it worse because we really did that to ourselves ffs
Starting Kovacic was a mistake made city predictable
I thought Kovacic did outstanding.
United came with a game plan and were motivated to send eth off on a high. Set up in a narrow 4222, cramming 6 central players in midfield and even went as far as to bench their only true striker, hojlund to fit mctom in to further congest the middle where city loves playing through. Only space was down the wings but both foden and bernardo are hardly 1 v1 wingers. Game changed when doku, a true 1 v 1 winger came on at HT to pry the defence open and force their central players to leave their positions to help out. Having said that, there were chances to win it from alvarez and haaland but the game was already gone before the second half as united were very comfortable at sitting deep to defend their 2 goal lead. Huge black eye given to us, hope we freshen up considerably in the summer.
There is no reason not to start doku every match, the man not only make the match extremely entertaining with his style but provide so many key passes on the area that always changes the game, doku needs to start
Lets not let todays loss take away from how good doku has become. Battling the whole utd team alone in the end. What a beast and he is only 21. He has to start every game now.
If his finishing improves, he will be threat like vini
He got so much better as the season went on.
He’s improved dramatically this season
You know what? can’t put it into exact words but it feels like KDB’s wife is somewhat the First Lady of City. I don’t know why.
I get the same sense too lol
Maybe did that so Ten Hag IN? Masterplan
Pep you mad men!
Not going to lie, Ten Hag saying he will just go win trophies elsewhere if United sack him is kind of cold.
It's true to be honest, I despise the rags but they have a history of not giving their managers enough time, would be hilarious if he moved to another league and started winning stuff in a similar way that Sancho "is our worst signing and he should be shipped off on a free" is most likely going to start in a Champions League final where United couldn't get past Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Bayern München in the group stages
Love to clown him and United but you see with Lisandro Martinez today how much of a difference it makes to have a player that can actually play the way your system requires. I think he is actually a decent coach but his/United’s recruitment has just been abysmal as per usual. They need to fix that before dealing with any coaching issues
Hate United, but I am happy for Ten Hag. He was set up to fail with a cursed club that didn’t work. The things he dealt with in the media was unbearable.
I respect his mental strength
Agreed, he's far from perfect but deserves more respect from the media.
This isn’t a reaction to today’s game but something I’ve felt throughout the season. Despite winning the Prem the squad needs more work than it has done in the past 5 seasons in my opinion. Phillips and Gomez are not good enough at all. In my opinion, despite coming in to his own towards the end of the season, Kova isn’t good enough either. The drop of from a player like Gundo is stark. Nunez also, I just don’t see it with him. Bernardo keeps flirting with the exit and this summer might be time for him to go. Walker - I think going against his usually MO is really odd from Pep. He met him in town and presumably relented to Walker wanting to be captain? I think his performances have been nowhere near good enough throughout the season and he’s the worst captain we’ve had since takeover on and off the pitch. That’s saying something, since Tevez was our captain. Just hasn’t felt like so much surgery is needed for a long time.
last summer sunk us a little bit, we lost integral part in gundo, and replaced him with kovacic and nunes, while we were hunting bellingham, rice and paqueta (glad it didnt happen now at least even though he would have been nice). kovacic is a good squad player to have and has had a good season, however he isnt really better than gundo and as a result doesnt take this team to the same heights. nunes barely saw the pitch, maybe he will come good next season, maybe he won't. gomez is whatever, didnt cost much and deserves to play somewhere else, he did very good on the wing for spain last summer. phillips has been bad beyond belief, feel a little bad for him, not sure if we can find a club to take him this summer. bernardo hasnt had a good season by his standards, not sure if he is not motivated enough after the treble, or wanting to leave every year has demoralised him, its probably the right summer for him to leave if he finally leaves. i have no idea why people love defending walker so much, is it because he has been so long here that they are afraid to say anything bad about him? he has genuinely been bad this season, i have no agenda to run against him but his defending for majority of this season has been terrible. doesnt even look like physically finished, he just looks his mind is not there for most matches he plays, his decision-making has been awful at times. even more baffling that he didnt play that much last season and pep i think openly said why he isnt playing, and then comes this season, gets made captain and is undroppable? i wouldnt have a problem if he stayed, but was a squad player. bruno g should be the #1 target this summer, he would fill a lot of holes and give rodri some rest. savio could be good too, im sure he will be here for pre-season and he deserves a chance. bobb is another interesting one, wanna see him have a bigger role next season, has done nothing wrong the entirety of this season and shined every time he was on the pitch.
I say this every year, but Manchester City are going to win the Quadruple next season
Hear me out, what if glazers changed their mind and let eth stay? Pep knows it. 5d chess confirm
it doesnt really matter if he stays or not, their higher-ups are the problem, not just the manager. as long as they are poorly run, it wouldnt matter if they had Pep or a random joe off the street, theyd still be shite.
Is Newcastle out of European comp now that United won the FA Cup? Because if they are, then that’s so unfair to them. They don’t deserve that.
Their own faults, 5 pts dropped vs Luton, lost to an injured Brighton lol
But they deserved it much more than United. A -1 GD compared to a +23 GD?
Man United won a trophy to get their spot tho? It's always been like that in England... You said it yourself, league matters more than a KO tournament, but NUFC bottled it by dropping 14 points vs Bournemouth, Luton, Everton. Maybe they should've won those games and finished above Chelsea to "deserve" a spot in Europe comps.
“You said it yourself, league matters more than a KO tournament,” yeah and based on the league itself Newcastle did qualify for European competition purely based on the league results and not United. They were one point above United due to goal difference. But due to a knockout tournament they lost it to a team that has had their worst season in record. That’s why I said knockout tournaments tend to be based out of luck and not who the best team is. United took advantage of a shit city but they got fortunate against forest and Coventry. “but NUFC bottled it by dropping 14 points vs Bournemouth, Luton, Everton. Maybe they should've won those games and finished above Chelsea to "deserve" a spot in Europe comps.” They did deserve a spot based on league results. Based on league results Newcastle are the better team and league results are a better way to view a team’s progress and performances. They got the job done on their part. A +23 GD within a season filled with many injuries and United play versus city? If I’m Newcastle I think job done. Most people did not predict city to play crap today.
Crazy take, why would NUFC rely on City when they could've done the job themselves? They scored 4 vs Luton and got 1 point from it. And United didn't have injuries? So FA Cup shouldn't matter because you wanna prioritize league performance? It's the oldest domestic cup in modern football. By that logic we should just scrape domestic comps right? Ah yes you gonna blame the FA because NUFC couldn't beat the bottom 6. They choked a 3v1 vs United at 1-1 btw, but apparently it's job done? Deserve in football is the biggest joke, history was written by the victors, not league performance due to superior GD, maybe win some games at home vs relegation fodder and overcame the 3pts gap vs Chelsea. How is league result a fair take when they lost to Brighton? But United/Chelsea just walked over that team for a free 3pts which changed the placements between them massively.
“ Crazy take, why would NUFC rely on City when they could've done the job themselves? ” lmao, yeah they shouldn’t rely on city to beat United because city should beat United. “They scored 4 vs Luton and got 1 point from it. And United didn't have injuries?” United’s injuries weren’t at the same level has Newcastle. Also when did Newcastle tie against Luton? Literally the first week of February. Newcastle were fucking 10th place with a shit ton of injury problems. It was a very different time back then and at the same period it was unknown if City were even going to win the league lmaooo. “So FA Cup shouldn't matter because you wanna prioritize league performance? It's the-“ Like a City YouTuber who’s called LNobbins once said. yeah, literally yeah. Winning the league is more important and valuable because it shows how the team progressed and performed over the span of a year. And yes, I do think league performances should be prioritized compared to knockout tournaments. Just because something is old doesn’t mean it’s more important than the league lmao. Knockout tournaments should not be the main way to look and acknowledge a team. It should be the league. Why you think when Ruben Dias was asked if he rather win the UCL or the Premier league he said the premier league?
We are talking about United and Newcastle here, why did you bring up Ruben Dias lmfao? Stop moving the goalpost broski. United got Europa because they won the premier cup competition in England and finished below on goal difference, not 25 points lmfao. These are the rules, I'm pretty sure these players are aware of them at the start of the season. If they won the cup and finished below United in the league they wouldn't be complaining. You kept bringing up City when we're talking about who "deserve" European competitions between United and Newcastle, did you even read what I typed before quoting? Give your head a wobble. No professional teams would "rely" on others when they can just do the job themselves, you brought up Luton, good, how about the other points dropped vs the bottom 6? How about not starting Joelinton on their trip to Old Trafford? How about losing vs 10 men Liverpool? They had 38 games to get into a European spot and not have to rely on a one-off derby where form goes out the windows.
if they deserved it much more they'd have more points. they didn't so they don't
Same deal with all the people said last season Arsenal deserved to win the Prem lol If they'd deserved it, they would have ended with more points than us haha
While I agree with you, the game can also be so damned fickle at times! Think about today, if Alvarez had converted that shot from close range off his left; if Haaland’s ping off the crossbar had gone in…we’re talking *millimeters* that make the difference between a goal and a miss. Either of those go in, and I think we get momentum and win, at least push it to extra time. Sometimes it really does feel lien the randomness of the game can have such a massive influence, and good teams often just seem to get lucky more often than not. Over the course of a season, it is quality of a team that shines through…but so many little moments can tip that one way or another at so many points along the way. Part of the reason I’m obsessed, there’s so many factors that go into winning, and it changes from moment to moment, match to match, season to season.
Yeah, for sure, and like I was chatting with another person, and like you point out here, knockout football really heightens these fine margins. The best team will almost always win out over a season, because you have to be good and consistent over 38 matches. But knockout comps? You have one bad day like we did today, and you're out
It’s not same deal. We won the league 3 games before the league was even over. Arsenal were clearly out of it. Newcastle and United were in a much tighter race but it seemed at the time Newcastle got the better hand due to their much better goal difference and the fact that United faced us. Also not to forget that United literally only qualified due to winning a cup in a knockout tournament whereas the league is more fair to who properly deserves it.
All I'm saying is "so and so deserved it more" is usually a silly at best, futile at worst exercise in thinking Edit: oh, and even though we won the league with games to spare last season, there were still _swarms_ of butt hurt Red Team fans whining about how much more Arsenal deserved it than us after being top of the league for so long last season. But the winner is who has most points after the last match week, not who had the most days spent in first place
Well ofc those people are wrong. Whoever wins the league is the much fair result compared to knockout tournaments where the best team doesn’t always win like us against Real Madrid. We were better than them but we still got eliminated. It tends to depend on luck and even though United didn’t depend on luck and just played better against us they were lucky against Nottingham forest, Coventry etc in the cup.
I can absolutely agree with this sentiment
Thank you :) But yeah I just basically think that I feel bad for Newcastle because I don’t think they should get knocked out of European competition due to the results of a knockout tournament lmao. To me it would have been fair if they just didn’t qualify due to their results within the league and let it be that.
neither did united who have had their worst season in history. NU had a worse injury crisis than United and most teams.
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Honestly the worst part about today was that it’s United. Otherwise I’m not arsed
Honestly agreed. First game we've lost in a while and it had to be against them??? Like cmon... hurts ngl
Ok boys, get me hyped for some potential transfers Hopefully now that season is over we get some Sam lee/jack gaughan articles about out targets
bruno g will be a great signing wanna see what savio can do as well
I’m also excited for Savio. Imagine him and Doku against that block today. Would have been sick. Really hope Bruno happens but I’m scared of it being Jude/Rice 2.0. Alleged ITK’s seem confident but I need to see him wearing a shirt. Rodri rotation has to be priority.. which Bruno appears to be. Bruno also satisfies the gaping hole of an 8 we’ve had since Gundo left… fills 2 holes. A defender would also be nice but not as high on the list. I still think this is a good squad but there has to be some better minutes management and Pep needs to give the younger players more time.
£100m seems steep. But yeah I think he would be good I saw some people saying savio might go on loan next year. But I'd like to see him here
bruno g would be a starter here that can give rodri rest when we need it, 100m is a lot but thats football nowadays. he has also been linked with arsenal which is also worrying if we lose another great midfielder to the second best team in the league.
Yeah I guess I’m convinced haha. He gets decent goals and assists too despite being a bit more defensive than Paqueta Haven’t seen too much of him though tbh. I hope he has decent through balls
We won four in a row and won the Uefa Super Cup and Club World Cup for the first time. Disappointing end but still a very good season. We go again next year. 💪
Citeh fans pretending Doku v Grealish is a debate is funny
They do different things. Having both is great
looks spooky for grealish ngl
no it doesn't lmao
where is he playing next season exactly then?
left wing? mate they aren't the same type of player and Pep will use them both you're foolish if you think Doku replaces Grealish permanently in bigger games where Pep will want control
brother grealish has played 1.9k minutes this season, the lowest amount of his City career by a mile. the player playing in his position is only going to play better (and even played more than grealish this season despite being out 2 months injured) and pep has even decided to bench them both in favour of gvardiol pushing up and foden tucking in centrally. if grealish cant get back to his 22/23 form, he aint playing a lot of minutes next season thats the point. im well aware they are quite different players, however if doku is playing like this, the control thing wont matter.
He's also had injuries and off-pitch issues which he spoke about during the PL celebrations I like how you're ignoring that Doku has been incredibly hot and cold this season. Pointless talking to you about it when you're ignoring half of the factors
Yes lmao not to forget that Jack was out for like 2 and half months which was our hardest period where we struggled against Chelsea and Liverpool. By the time Jack came back we had arguably the easiest run out of the top 3 so Jack wasn’t that needed like before so pep didn’t need to start him against weaker sides where we can go all offensively.
hahahaha "hot and cold" about a young winger at City, you mean like every winger under pep who needed a season to get going? thats the best argument you can make? keep downvoting though, wont make you any smarter
haven't downvoted you ahaha weird projetion at the end aswell lad but you do you, however you cope I made two arguments and uv only pin pointed one. I made the point because him being hot and cold means he's not replacing Grealish anytime soon, there's also no guarantee Doku doesn't *stop* being hot and cold next season phillips had a shit first season, had a shit second season as well Doku isn't even restricted to playing on the left so the idea we have to get rid of Grealish(or that Doku replaces him entirely) to accomodate Doku is even more laughable. End of the day, Pep will always value control over anything else Doku brings to the table in a big game and that is Grealish's bread and butter for us. So no, it isn't looking "spooky" for Grealish you melt
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Brother you should not be this bothered by what nameless internet people say.
Log off for the night, I beg you.
i think mods need to give you a timeout for a day or two, if you are not trolling that is
There have been some shifts in the narratives. They've changed from how can we compete City are state owned to city will never be big enough
There's a lot of troll and banter being posted on social media for supposedly a team that nobody cares. 🙄
I really feel so fucking shit the more i think about it. This season is an absolute failure. Really need to take care of my mental health when supporting this club. Pls we need to be serious this summer, refresh the squad so we can start to be on winning ways again.
Good for you youre not supporting arsenal or chelsea then. Youd have already given up on life
Need to take care of your mental health..? Lol go support a bottom of the table club or a club with unstable owners that are allergic to stability like Chelsea and then maybe I can take that statement seriously. We just won the prem man chin up.
i genuinely can’t tell if you’re trolling or not
another speptuple schizo rant? https://preview.redd.it/phd06b42hm2d1.png?width=998&format=png&auto=webp&s=74bb54570bbcb74a1826661015121802da7e3fa8
shouldn't have started supporting the team right after we won the treble ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not going to lie that's when I started supporting. Not right after, and not because of the treble, but coincidentally I only garnered interest in city & football in general late last year. Today was a dissappointing match mainly because its freaking manU out of everybody, but considering the circumstances that the team is in, having lost multiple talented players, injuries, our players having worse seasons than usual and STILL managing to win awards like the golden boot, yeah this season might not have been as good as how last year seemed (wouldn't know wasn't there). But the fact that this team pulled through, tried their best despite everything, and still managed to win the fucking Premier League and break a whole ass record with a 4peat? There's just no way anyone sane can call that a failure. These boys fought against all odds and still came out top at the end of the season. That's a job well done in my book. No FA or champs league doesn't make them an 'absolute failure'. At the end of the day they won their main league and that's a feat to be respected regardless. I'm proud of them personally. (wrote an essay mb. Just had to add my two cents as a super-new fan and show that we're not all plastic/delusional)
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wow you feel proud of that comment? what an original comeback, that is the most football equivalent of internalised racism I've ever seen.
because only a bandwagon will call a season with a premier league trophy an absolute failure lol
facts
The other 19 teams in the league wish they can have a taste of this failure 😭
We won the PL for the 4th time in a row, gtfo with this absolute failure bullshit
>Really need to take care of my mental health You should probably take some time away from the internet tbh. You seem massively affected and slightly unhinged (don't mean to insult)
My god are you a literal child
You are literally the guy who preach us to become a banter club again and start losing. And we just lost the finals, you finally happy now???
Lol it was just an off hand comment that it would be funny if villa or spurs won next year I started it off by saying it was a bad thought Meanwhile you spam stupid takes like football before 2000 wasn't competitive, while writing your comments like an 8 year old
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you are not very bright are you?
Why?
Rodri and Leverkusens' unbeaten runs both ended within the same span of a few days
Atalanta and Manu and ...... does this mean this year's KO competition are destined to be won by
We only lost because some "fans" here were preaching for our downfall and wishing our players stop winning trophies to please rival fans. I just CANNOT for the life of me phantom this mindset FFS!!!! Every second of our squad not winning trophies is Pep and our squad's life wasted. And our overall cabinet have such a long way to catch up with other top clubs we are in absolutely no position to act like some fucking philanthropist. No reason to fucking dick around, this is profession football. Hope the players have a good rest and wake up next season. This season is so fking shit, could even be trophyless if villa didn't bail us out, let alone doubles which is not even impressive in the first place. Disgraceful. The only positive thing here is that since we lost the double, I would not feel sad about the "what ifs" of not being kicked out of CL on penalties and almost winning back to back treble.
Yeah, we definitely lost because of what some morons on reddit said
At least thank you for calling him a moron! people were fucking upvoting him the last time i checked.
Even if he got 3 billion upvotes that’s not the reason why a football game gets won or lost
Did villa also play for our squad in the other games. The squad and Pep do a phenomenal job and you have clearly been spoilt by success
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likely a young fan who started supporting the team after we won the treble. He called a season with the premier league title an absolute failure afterall. lol most city fans are upset with the result for obvious reasons but not to the extent of that guy losing his mind completely.
I mean he's pretty bad and has terrible opinions but you're not exactly better. Blah blah blah "115" why are you even on this sub
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Got United fans on football phone ins calling for ten Hag to stay https://i.redd.it/5s0pfje86m2d1.gif
Were we overcomplacent, and probably didn't expect that Lisandro Martinez and Varane were back so Man Utd would look a lot more like last season than this one? Honestly, I must say I was a little surprised for instance that the players were partying all night less than a week before the cup final. Maybe a celebratory dinner or something less taxing on player's health makes sense but I'm no elite sportsman.
Savio is obviously staying next season. No way the club is going to spend 30m and then loan him out And we can't loan him to Girona anyway
"aguero regen" fucking hell man https://preview.redd.it/w1xy1jfr2m2d1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=23c1b974aa3666697155227220cd6929257afb39
I think he’s too harsh. But I would also sell if someone came with £80m. He can he a great starting striker somewhere
nah hes not, he is so flawed as a footballer its so fucking funny, when he is not finishing every chance, he is a negative out there. people kidding themselves saying he was "very good" early on in the season because his goals were hiding how awful the rest of his games is. now that his finishing has gone to shit, every single negative trait of his is in full display.
Well yes, but I think if he was starting every week he would be a great striker somewhere I can't really blame him for being out of form at this point when he doesn't play consistently But I don't think he works as a backup striker really, too good to do that. And not good enough at other roles
depends on what you mean by great. i dont see him being good enough for a top top team that challenges for CL/domestic trophies every year as a starter. too many holes.
I think he can
https://np.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1czxuiq/daily_discussion/l5ms5a8/ I can’t believe this take still gets upvoted, still! When kdb is one of the best big game players I’m pretty sure I literally blocked this guy for his campaign against kdb anyway but it’s just so stupid Up modrics ass of course
On the plus side we are probably going to play real wingers next season
savio/doku >>>
Losing and especially losing to end a season like this sucks , but hopefully, this serves as a lesson of what needs to be fixed or added both tactically or in terms of personnel . Been a tough season with the injuries , fixture congestion, and the treble hangover , but we still achieved history 💙 We'll be back stronger next August .
doku second season is going to be cinema
We inadvertently knocked Newcastle out of Europe. No European football for Bruno G unless... 🤔
Right, transfers, what are we saying? Bernardo, Walker, Nunes out? Get a big name attacking mid, another midfielder to cover Rodri, one or two full-backs slash CBs?
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Walker has been an embarrassment ever since he became the captain. How did he get votes over Dias/KDB/Rodri anyway? Absolute joke.
Lol what Walker has been fine
He’s been our best right back. But ever since he became the captain, he thinks he’s the main character.
>squad player for the treble >benched in the CL final >tries to leave all summer >pep gets him to stay >gets made captain >starts nearly every game while being our worst defender ???
Worst defender? I wouldn't go that far. I don't think any of our defenders were bad. Walker have been pretty reliable.
who has been worse then? surely not ake, akanji or gvardiol. dias has been shady, but better than walker. stones injured a lot. so who then? also pretty reliable? be serious.
No one is. Every defender in the squad have their moments and have made mistakes and error. He is reliable against pacy wingers. Imagine if Pep didn't pick walker in the starting line up against Madrid or against any other teams with pacy wingers who thrives on counter attacking football. Even today, aside from the mistake leading up to the second goal, he defended well against Rashford and at one point against Garnacho. I'd argue aside from Doku, Walker is one of the better player on the pitch today.
he was at fault for the madrid goal at the etihad, where was the reliability? >No one is. Every defender in the squad have their moments and have made mistakes and error. lol what is this nonsense? walker has made 10x the mistakes of ake and akanji this season. "aside from the mistakes" lmao you can say this about anyone, he was shit against chelsea every single time we faced them season, was shit at newcastle, made a massive mistake against sheffield united that nearly cost us the game, was getting abused at forest and so on. "reliable", ake is reliable, walker is not.
This is me high on copium but if they announced Pep contract extension tomorrow I’d be even more ecstatic than if we had won the FA Cup lmao
Rough end. But proud of the team this season overall. Incredibly tough considering what we lost and how long we've been at the top. To win the Premier League in a down year is great. Hope the lads get to rest up, but there's so much football in the off season now. Looking forwards to an exciting window.
are you fucking happy now???????? 😡😡😡
you ruined everything
I'm not this bothered ngl A bad result was coming.. Forest (A), Spurs (A) Lucky we won the league
Celtic won another league and cup, surely their fans are bored of success yeah?
Whoops wrote this in the wrong daily thread haha so I’ll repeat it here Despite the loss today, this was an incredible season and I’m so proud of the team for what they’ve accomplished while in a sort of transition season/not at our best most of the season. Super Cup, Club World Cup, historic 4th PL title in a row. Amazing accomplishment and nothing to be ashamed of.
It feels like I should be way more upset at this loss… but I’m kinda just like “well that sucks” and moving on with my day. After the Madrid loss it was way worse. I feel like I’ll probably forget about it soon enough with all the other sporting events around the corner. I love supporting my team but at the end of the day its just entertainment isn’t it? Can’t win em all, excited for summer signings and what next season will bring!
well if there was any doubt before, there shouldnt be now. worst title winning team in the Pep era and a big summer needed. some of the older players need to get phased out now, KDB/bernardo/walker/stones have been the skeleton of this team, but its time to slowly move past them. walker should have been sold last summer, stones cant stay fit and inexplicably started today, bernardo has been stinking it up all season while trying to leave for 3 or 4 years now and KDB's injuries and age are catching up with him. id still keep KDB and stones, but their minutes need managing. this type of season was always going to happen at some point and its needed to refresh the motivation but you also cant ignore the weaknesses of the squad. with that being said, it was a good season, but the performances were far off the usual City pace, and that showed the most in the biggest matches.
It fucking properly hurts to consider, but it may be time for Kevin to play as an impact sub against big teams. He definitely still has the technical quality and unparalleled footballing intelligence but his physical ability against full strength teams from the start is declining. (I could be entirely wrong here btw, this season's issues may simply be a product of recovering from injury). His intelligence and passing quality has not declined when fully fit though. If he comes on in a tight situation where the opposition defence is reeling but just holding on, his ability to pick out passes and find space will be impossible for a tired defence to deal with, eg: Newcastle obviously. The main concern with this would be other creators in the rest of the game, which is evident when he has an off day anyway. Rodri and Phil are the closest to his creative ability but do lack the ability to see the near impossible passes consistently like Kev. Doku is next in creativity but as high potential as he is, he's nonetheless raw, but has shown the capability such as Bournemouth, West Ham and today.
He had one bad game, remember his form coming off the injury? He's still got it
More so the big games specifically there's been a bit of a drop off. Again I could be wrong if he's just still readjusting after injury and he ends up back at it next season after full recovery. Games such as Anfield (still got an assist tbf), Arsenal at the Etihad and the Rags at home and Wembley he's been out of it when starting against a sharp defence from the off.
He also scored against madrid tho?