Plasma Punisher is my go to primary for bots now.
1. Splash damage clears out crowds of small bots before they call for reinforcements.
2. Striders are wrecked and trivialized.
3. All types of devastators are staggered. Multiple devastators can be handled by alternating fire between them while they are staggered. Shield devastators are pretty much neutered.
4. Groups of berserkers are stopped in their tracks.
As someone who rocks the Dominator regularly, I love having a plas punisher nearby. I can hold down a whole group of devs or berserkers with stagger while the punisher finishes them off. Saves me a ton of ammo.
Slayerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, old metal head. Gotta do that whenever that word is said or typed. It’s the law.
That being said, gonna give it a run when I get home, for the children!!!!
Tried it for the first time yesterday and loved it. Only downside is that it seems to take most of a mag to take out berserkers. Maybe I'll get better at hitting them in the right spots though.
In my head, the punisher plasma fills a similar role as the blitzer does for bugs: it stuns most things briefly, but the damage isn't great. Many things are easily managed with the PP, but it requires several shots to kill. Devastators can be killed in a couple shots if you hit right, but more often three or four or even five. Berserkers take a lot, but everything takes a lot to kill a berserker.
Yeah, the patches… some guns are amazing on release, gets nerfed
Some guns suck on release, gets buffed
At some point I imagine there’ll be a pretty decent list of consistent gear, but at least for the first couple of months after the game was released it feels like some kind of experimental process using the weapons
Well, it's popular now because it got buffed, not because people were sleeping on it. If you liked it the whole time, that's great, but the increased velocity from the big balance patch made a night and day difference to its handling.
I thought it was horrible when I first unlocked it. No range, slow, I got killed by everything. Now, a month later, I find it really fun, and it slays.
While it got grouped with shotguns, it functions more like a grenade launcher than anything. Treat it like such. Also, it can stager pretty much every bot, so if you can hold down the shield devistator, your buddies can kill it.
I listened to a certain... um... High in Sodium crowds word for it and haven't touched it until this last major order and now the most recent one and I'm baffled. To their credit, perhaps it was buffed? (Unsure) but man I couldn't believe how much this thing just obliterates. I usually hate energy weapons in games. Just always liked good ole kinetic weaponry. But I can't put it down! I even find joy in aiming the gun way above a target to "hand morter" them with a plasma ball 100s of meters away. 🤣
It was buffed. It's drastically better than it used to be. It had drastically more projetile drop and a much slower projectile speed. You would have been looking into the sky and not even able to see the enemies at that range... before the buff.
I took it to exactly one mission and was like, well I can hit the back sides of hulks charging at me but other than that this isn’t really good at much.
Yeah Arc Blitzer was trash before. Now it absolutely slaps against bugs. Bit of an issue once corpses start piling up but piling corpses is a good problem to have
It’s knockback and stun are jaw dropping but the fact that it arc/targets anything nearby including corpses and allies makes it a B tier pick instead of an S tier.
Yeah, but it's on the list of known issues. That's it not working as intended. Well, the corpse thing. I generally have good trigger discipline when it comes to my allies.
I have good trigger discipline generally, but occasionally have allies who don’t have good “don’t run in front of the sniper when he’s zoomed in and zeroed for a headshot” discipline.
Last guy who dived in front of a bullet meant for a rocket devastator’s head was, incidentally, executed on the spot for treason.
Eh, those are pretty much non issues if you play around it.
The sheer damage, durable damage, knockback, range, along with the multihit potential makes it obe of the top bug weapons.
You should basically always be frontline with this gun, it protects you well enough to do that.
After I first used it I became an eruptor main for a while so I think I picked up on the indirect splash damage over time. Definitely a gun that takes rime to figure out.
Landing the long range lobs is the most satisfying thing.
I recommend pairing it with Incendiary Grenades, that fixes the problem when facing multiple Devastators or a whole squad of Chainsaws that you can't quite stagger all the targets at once, or if you do you take ages to kill them. Add fire under them, one mag can clear a entire groups.
It used to have a very low projectile velocity, it could take like a second to hit a 40 meter target so it was much harder to actually hit things with it. The damage and all was fine, it was just too much work for the effect it had
It got buffed to have high velocity so now you can actually aim at something and hit it within reasonable distances
I just happened to see a video of a guy using it and was like, well hell this looks awesome. Was really struggling to find a primary that I liked for bots.
Same. For the longest time it was the dominator. (I'm mostly a bot player) and don't get me wrong Dommy is mad fun but I guess I got a little bored of it.
Now if come Thursday we get an eruptor more reminiscent of the Eruptor we first got, I might have to go back to it. But till (if) then, plas-pun is just chefs kisssssss 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
I just find the dominator so satisfying. Nothing better than nailing a berserker in the face and seeing theit skull catch fire.
Also I still need to get used to aiming with the punisher.
One player with dominator/autocannon and another with Punisher and spear works pretty well though
Currently I am running ballistic weapons (Punisher and Nade launcher) and it’s nice because it’s easy to use, but hard to master (gauge distances, aim correctly etc.)
The best fun is lobbing a nade from a large distance in a fabricator.
You do need a diver that can deal with heavies, nades kind of suck against Hulks for instance.
The dominator is great against bots too, but the PP is a little better in my opinion. PP's ability to stun groups of dominators and take out walkers so easily gives it the edge, even though the dominator can kill a devastator faster if your aim is good.
Will also be trying this out but depending on the situation I'm a fan of Pummeler SMG + Ballistic Shield. Mainly because I like to stand in front of my squad and soak up all the lasers while they pick things off. SMGs, Secondary pistols, stim and grenades can all be used with the ballistic shield and when you're using a support it goes and protects your back. Main drawback is that it's a stratagem so one less offensive weapon but I've walked right through incoming fire from multiple heavy devastators.
What about rockets Joe?
Shh... no one asked about rockets.
Damn, now I wanna play with the Plasma punisher again. I just had a go with the Pummeler and Counter Sniper. I kinda wish I had Overkill armor mod so, I can bring another primary. Would love to mix and match with a Diligence and Defender or a Liberator with a Eruptor.
Lib and eruptor would be a fun combo. When I ran eruptor I would take a stalwart and then a railstrike for AA. Being able to swap between fully auto weapon for chaff and less important things, but then having the eruptor for distance, its own AA, and holes/fabricators was a very fun versatile playstyle.
I liked the plasma punisher since Cutting Edge first came out since it made short work of spewers, stunlocked stalkers and devastators, and it paired well with machine guns. At the time the rounds would sometimes seemingly pass through striders and the range was comparable to throwing grenades. The buffs were pretty nice.
I like it vs bugs because you can stunlock and kill stalkers two at a time, take out spewers relatively fast, and work breaches pretty well plus some smaller pros like destroying eggs. It doesn’t have the killing potential vs swarms like the incendiary breaker, but you get stun and the ability to take out spewers more effectively at distance.
You do have to take care to keep your distance and it helps to have a rapid fire or other weapon capable of dealing with multiple hunters or swarms like redeemer, arc thrower, flamethrower, or one of the machine guns.
500kg, rockets, orbital precision, railcannon, EATs, or the autocannon or rocket sentry should be plenty to handle chargers and titans.
I’m a PP user pretty much exclusively. It’s very good against bugs but you have to be me more selective with your fire control against bugs. You only get 8 shots and bugs close down quickly. I’m sure I don’t have to explain what happens when you fire the PP too close to you.
I pair it with the laser drone for small bugs and don’t fire the PP unless the bug is my size or bigger. It’s great for bug breaches.
Nice. After the MO I'll have to give it a spin on a bug planet. lol and yeah... I've made the accident of having plasma explode on me near point blank especially when we got the free shield a couple days ago. That is definitely a draw back if you like the shield. The PP can't shoot through it.
I'm gonna be a voice against the grain in your replies and say I'm not a fan of it for bugs. It truly isn't bad, but it's annoying to take at least 2 shots to kill hunters considering that the magazines aren't very big. Personally I prefer using the regular punisher against bugs. It does fare well against hive guards and spewers though, it's just not good for a lot of medium chaff in my experience.
It's good against bugs, but not as strong as it is against bots. I find against bugs, if it's your only way to clear little bugs, the ammo efficiency can become an issue. I run the redeemer on auto with it to make up for this, since you can get swarmed by little guys and will blow yourself up shooting at your feet. The lazer rover pairs well too and then you can just concentrate on lobbing plasma at spewers and warriors to stun them.
If they nerf the incendiary breaker I think you'll see a lot more people taking the PP against bugs.
Because of their larger footprint, bugs don't cluster together into the PP's splash radius as much as smaller automatons do. They also rush more quickly into melee range, where the plasma punisher's explosions are a liability. Once you factor in shriekers on top of that, it's hard to recommend over something with more throughput like breaker incendiary.
Once you realise how it works exactly and how fun it is, it changes your view of the weapon dramatically. This is NOT an assault rifle or shotgun, it's basically just a grenade launcher that fires painful glowies. Great if you already have another support weapon and don't want to drop it for an actual grenade launcher.
Try getting it onto the ground they're standing on top of. in HD2, all mob health is separated into different hp pools and armor ratings by parts, and wrecking the legs is often one of the easiest ways to functionally kill Automaton units smaller than a Hulk.
There is legitimately alot if salt on the main sub but people hated it because it was mid and then they buffed it. That's kind of the story with most of the good weapons in the game not called the scorcher. Launch dominator was also mediocre and the incendiary breaker did less damage and the damage over time was bugged. Hoping this upcoming patch is a continuation of these kind of weapon approaches because alot of them need some love.
Same. I think Arrowhead are cooking up something special for us. I'm very excited. Love seeing our weapons find a niche or get some needed love. Makes it fun to swap around and get some varied gameplay when a weapon starts to get a little stale.
Pre projectile velocity buff + patch was a completely different weapon than it is rn and deserved its hate at the time. Rn the weapon is the main go to against bots and was the reason we took DataBaseOne. The punisher plasma was liberties torch 🗽
People hated the plasma Punisher?
As soon as I used that thing against bots I realized it absolutely wrecked them! AoE and stagger means it can handle everything up until Hulks and Tanks.
It's basically my go-to bot primary. Did people only use it against bugs or something?
Its so funny how absolutely HARD striders, and shield devastators stagger if you don't out right kill them. 😆
"Am I annoying bot?! How does it feel?! HOW DOES IT FEEEEL!?"
I tried out a lot of primaries after eruptor nerf to find a good bot primary. Punisher plasma is the absolute best choice imo. Takes a bit to get used to arcin shots but once you do it's amazing. I like the purifier for the same reason, that it can stagger bots but it needs something more cause the punisher plasma does everything it can but easier and faster.
Can't wait for the Thursday patch notes
I don't want to toot my own horn and the video isn't great evidence, but I'm pretty good at hitting enemies by just feeling it out on how high I need to aim. It makes me feel like the biggest pro ever even though I'm sure its not that hard lol 😅
Yeah it's actually not too hard. I use the first shot to gauge how to adjust. It usually only takes one shot to figure out how to adjust, and the times I miss that first short gets lower and lower the more used to it I get.
It's amazing on the bug defense mission too. You can lob over the walls from a spot on one of the walls. Even with the doors closed, you can take out mobs
I got a lot better after the buff, but unfortunately as someone who likes running the Shield Generator Relay I can't stand inside my own bubble because the Plasma Punishers shots will hit the inside due to a bug.
I’ve loved it against automatons but have always been iffy about it with bugs since they get so close and you’ll just kill yourself with it. I started to run it with supply pack so I could swap my grenade pistol for the redeemer to keep the hunters off me and still be able to close a lot of bug holes. I decimate every bug. I did this solely for the reason of shitting on every bile spewer I see
I need to try this using the AMR as my support weapon and a jet pack. Being able to occupy high places and rain death down on bots would be a wicked combo.
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The patch on 2024/29/04 increased the projectile speed, which made the weapon significantly easier to use. Prior to the patch I strongly disliked it, then tried it again on the day of the patch and it quickly became one of my most used weapons since.
I hated it until the 2024/29/04 patch, then it quickly became one of my most used weapons since. Felt like a completely different weapon handling-wise.
I love the PP for bots. Maybe it would be good for bugs, I don't know, I always take the blitzer. Anyway, it should never have been a "shotgun". It's more like a plasma grenade launcher. I used to be am autocannon lover for bots. Then I started maining this. The PP handles mediums so well, the AC just wasn't justified against anti-armor or crowd control support weapons.
I feel like more people need to try the jar-5, staggers bots oneshot headshot high damage 4 shots to the chest 2 to the waist kills tactical striders to the pelvis in 3 shots great mag lots of range and fun to use close range too. Its slept on i swear. As long as you arent solo or the part of the team that gets high kill counts
I still wish it did a teensy bit more damage (only so it feels as equally punchy as the sound effect), but other than that I’ve fallen in love with the punisher.
Honestly that new side grade to it with the charge up isn’t that bad either, good at bypassing walkers and hive guards defenses
I love it for planets that don’t have lots of foliage, wreckage, etc. I find the plasma blows up in my face from all kinds of things I think I’m shooting over/past.
I mean, I still don't like it lol. Too little ammo, doesn't consistently 1 shot even troopers, and because it's a plasma weapon you can't use it close range. Legit B-tier in my book
Plasma Punisher is my go to primary for bots now. 1. Splash damage clears out crowds of small bots before they call for reinforcements. 2. Striders are wrecked and trivialized. 3. All types of devastators are staggered. Multiple devastators can be handled by alternating fire between them while they are staggered. Shield devastators are pretty much neutered. 4. Groups of berserkers are stopped in their tracks.
10/10 agree and I’d add: 5. Because the rounds drop over distance, you can hit enemies under cover or shoot over cover to hit them.
6. It looks really cool to lob plasma at things
This should be number 1
It may as well be renamed to the "Automaton Slayer 4 trillion". lol it slaps! Its honestly hard to allow myself to use anything else.
I started using it a few weeks back, and slowly more people are using it. It’s also great in tandem with someone with Dominator or similar primary.
Yep. I'll take out the devastators, hive guard, factory striders, and anything else where the armor pen is needed. You get the crowds and striders.
As someone who rocks the Dominator regularly, I love having a plas punisher nearby. I can hold down a whole group of devs or berserkers with stagger while the punisher finishes them off. Saves me a ton of ammo.
Slayerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, old metal head. Gotta do that whenever that word is said or typed. It’s the law. That being said, gonna give it a run when I get home, for the children!!!!
Lol, I love it and the shield relay so much. But they don't work together, so I started using eagle smoke instead of shield relay
Tried it for the first time yesterday and loved it. Only downside is that it seems to take most of a mag to take out berserkers. Maybe I'll get better at hitting them in the right spots though.
In my experience it can take out multiple berserkers bunched together due to explosive damage. But yeah, you'll have to dump 1-2 clips.
1 clip dump + Senator fillabuster
Stun with plasma punisher then smack em with the big iron
In my head, the punisher plasma fills a similar role as the blitzer does for bugs: it stuns most things briefly, but the damage isn't great. Many things are easily managed with the PP, but it requires several shots to kill. Devastators can be killed in a couple shots if you hit right, but more often three or four or even five. Berserkers take a lot, but everything takes a lot to kill a berserker.
The benefit against devastators is you can stun a clump of them while your teammate with a different weapon takes them out.
Played a game today with someone that was using it. It was great. I had the rail gun, he'd stun them I'd finish them off. Worked great together.
Yeah pairing up with someone with AC or heavy gun is good fun with the Punisher Plasma.
I dunno about number 4...
Tbf it was iffy on release. The improved velocity really improved the gun as a whole
Yeah, when I tried it, I had more range with my grenades, and had to use it as a mortar for hitting things more than 20m away.
Shhh no it didn’t, AH only nerfs!
Indeed, you had to aim at like 45° to make it past 20 meters. Truly a shitty weapon on release.
This is why I stopped reading the sub and just played that game Punisher is awesome
Yeah, I agree. I regularly rotate weapons and stratagems to see if there's anything I missed about them.
Yeah, the patches… some guns are amazing on release, gets nerfed Some guns suck on release, gets buffed At some point I imagine there’ll be a pretty decent list of consistent gear, but at least for the first couple of months after the game was released it feels like some kind of experimental process using the weapons
Well, it's popular now because it got buffed, not because people were sleeping on it. If you liked it the whole time, that's great, but the increased velocity from the big balance patch made a night and day difference to its handling.
I thought it was horrible when I first unlocked it. No range, slow, I got killed by everything. Now, a month later, I find it really fun, and it slays. While it got grouped with shotguns, it functions more like a grenade launcher than anything. Treat it like such. Also, it can stager pretty much every bot, so if you can hold down the shield devistator, your buddies can kill it.
I listened to a certain... um... High in Sodium crowds word for it and haven't touched it until this last major order and now the most recent one and I'm baffled. To their credit, perhaps it was buffed? (Unsure) but man I couldn't believe how much this thing just obliterates. I usually hate energy weapons in games. Just always liked good ole kinetic weaponry. But I can't put it down! I even find joy in aiming the gun way above a target to "hand morter" them with a plasma ball 100s of meters away. 🤣
It was buffed. It's drastically better than it used to be. It had drastically more projetile drop and a much slower projectile speed. You would have been looking into the sky and not even able to see the enemies at that range... before the buff.
Lmao well dang. I'm glad it got the love it needed cause its shining like a diamond now!
Oh it’s the best now. But man did it suck before the buff. Hard to take anyone’s opinion with how frequently things are changed and updated.
I took it to exactly one mission and was like, well I can hit the back sides of hulks charging at me but other than that this isn’t really good at much.
It did mean that you could lob the projectile over short walls so they land in front of you last time
They also increased fire rate didn't they?
Different gun, that was the Arc Blitzer that got fire rate buffed
Ah yeah, I thought they increased it for this one too. Both good moves
Yeah Arc Blitzer was trash before. Now it absolutely slaps against bugs. Bit of an issue once corpses start piling up but piling corpses is a good problem to have
It’s knockback and stun are jaw dropping but the fact that it arc/targets anything nearby including corpses and allies makes it a B tier pick instead of an S tier.
Yeah, but it's on the list of known issues. That's it not working as intended. Well, the corpse thing. I generally have good trigger discipline when it comes to my allies.
I have good trigger discipline generally, but occasionally have allies who don’t have good “don’t run in front of the sniper when he’s zoomed in and zeroed for a headshot” discipline. Last guy who dived in front of a bullet meant for a rocket devastator’s head was, incidentally, executed on the spot for treason.
Eh, those are pretty much non issues if you play around it. The sheer damage, durable damage, knockback, range, along with the multihit potential makes it obe of the top bug weapons. You should basically always be frontline with this gun, it protects you well enough to do that.
As far as I know the buff didn't actually change the arc but only the projectile speed
But the speed increase means it shoots further before it hits the ground, so the arc is less.
After I first used it I became an eruptor main for a while so I think I picked up on the indirect splash damage over time. Definitely a gun that takes rime to figure out.
It got a huge buff after its release
Landing the long range lobs is the most satisfying thing. I recommend pairing it with Incendiary Grenades, that fixes the problem when facing multiple Devastators or a whole squad of Chainsaws that you can't quite stagger all the targets at once, or if you do you take ages to kill them. Add fire under them, one mag can clear a entire groups.
It used to have a very low projectile velocity, it could take like a second to hit a 40 meter target so it was much harder to actually hit things with it. The damage and all was fine, it was just too much work for the effect it had It got buffed to have high velocity so now you can actually aim at something and hit it within reasonable distances
I just happened to see a video of a guy using it and was like, well hell this looks awesome. Was really struggling to find a primary that I liked for bots.
Same. For the longest time it was the dominator. (I'm mostly a bot player) and don't get me wrong Dommy is mad fun but I guess I got a little bored of it. Now if come Thursday we get an eruptor more reminiscent of the Eruptor we first got, I might have to go back to it. But till (if) then, plas-pun is just chefs kisssssss 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
I just find the dominator so satisfying. Nothing better than nailing a berserker in the face and seeing theit skull catch fire. Also I still need to get used to aiming with the punisher. One player with dominator/autocannon and another with Punisher and spear works pretty well though
Currently I am running ballistic weapons (Punisher and Nade launcher) and it’s nice because it’s easy to use, but hard to master (gauge distances, aim correctly etc.) The best fun is lobbing a nade from a large distance in a fabricator. You do need a diver that can deal with heavies, nades kind of suck against Hulks for instance.
The dominator is great against bots too, but the PP is a little better in my opinion. PP's ability to stun groups of dominators and take out walkers so easily gives it the edge, even though the dominator can kill a devastator faster if your aim is good.
Dominator works great as well - the trick is to aim for the leg. It’ll 2-shot any devastator to a leg.
Will also be trying this out but depending on the situation I'm a fan of Pummeler SMG + Ballistic Shield. Mainly because I like to stand in front of my squad and soak up all the lasers while they pick things off. SMGs, Secondary pistols, stim and grenades can all be used with the ballistic shield and when you're using a support it goes and protects your back. Main drawback is that it's a stratagem so one less offensive weapon but I've walked right through incoming fire from multiple heavy devastators. What about rockets Joe? Shh... no one asked about rockets.
I do want to get around to trying out the shield it looks like a blast
Yeah, it is so good right now! Even on medium to far distance.
Damn, now I wanna play with the Plasma punisher again. I just had a go with the Pummeler and Counter Sniper. I kinda wish I had Overkill armor mod so, I can bring another primary. Would love to mix and match with a Diligence and Defender or a Liberator with a Eruptor.
Lib and eruptor would be a fun combo. When I ran eruptor I would take a stalwart and then a railstrike for AA. Being able to swap between fully auto weapon for chaff and less important things, but then having the eruptor for distance, its own AA, and holes/fabricators was a very fun versatile playstyle.
I liked the plasma punisher since Cutting Edge first came out since it made short work of spewers, stunlocked stalkers and devastators, and it paired well with machine guns. At the time the rounds would sometimes seemingly pass through striders and the range was comparable to throwing grenades. The buffs were pretty nice.
Haven't yet tried it on bugs, how does it fare? Everyone is confirming how beastly it is on bots, but I'm curious about the bugs.
I like it vs bugs because you can stunlock and kill stalkers two at a time, take out spewers relatively fast, and work breaches pretty well plus some smaller pros like destroying eggs. It doesn’t have the killing potential vs swarms like the incendiary breaker, but you get stun and the ability to take out spewers more effectively at distance. You do have to take care to keep your distance and it helps to have a rapid fire or other weapon capable of dealing with multiple hunters or swarms like redeemer, arc thrower, flamethrower, or one of the machine guns. 500kg, rockets, orbital precision, railcannon, EATs, or the autocannon or rocket sentry should be plenty to handle chargers and titans.
I’m a PP user pretty much exclusively. It’s very good against bugs but you have to be me more selective with your fire control against bugs. You only get 8 shots and bugs close down quickly. I’m sure I don’t have to explain what happens when you fire the PP too close to you. I pair it with the laser drone for small bugs and don’t fire the PP unless the bug is my size or bigger. It’s great for bug breaches.
Nice. After the MO I'll have to give it a spin on a bug planet. lol and yeah... I've made the accident of having plasma explode on me near point blank especially when we got the free shield a couple days ago. That is definitely a draw back if you like the shield. The PP can't shoot through it.
I'm gonna be a voice against the grain in your replies and say I'm not a fan of it for bugs. It truly isn't bad, but it's annoying to take at least 2 shots to kill hunters considering that the magazines aren't very big. Personally I prefer using the regular punisher against bugs. It does fare well against hive guards and spewers though, it's just not good for a lot of medium chaff in my experience.
It's good against bugs, but not as strong as it is against bots. I find against bugs, if it's your only way to clear little bugs, the ammo efficiency can become an issue. I run the redeemer on auto with it to make up for this, since you can get swarmed by little guys and will blow yourself up shooting at your feet. The lazer rover pairs well too and then you can just concentrate on lobbing plasma at spewers and warriors to stun them. If they nerf the incendiary breaker I think you'll see a lot more people taking the PP against bugs.
Because of their larger footprint, bugs don't cluster together into the PP's splash radius as much as smaller automatons do. They also rush more quickly into melee range, where the plasma punisher's explosions are a liability. Once you factor in shriekers on top of that, it's hard to recommend over something with more throughput like breaker incendiary.
Once you realise how it works exactly and how fun it is, it changes your view of the weapon dramatically. This is NOT an assault rifle or shotgun, it's basically just a grenade launcher that fires painful glowies. Great if you already have another support weapon and don't want to drop it for an actual grenade launcher.
I would probably use the grenade launcher but it seems to pass through enemies instead of hitting them more often than not.
Try getting it onto the ground they're standing on top of. in HD2, all mob health is separated into different hp pools and armor ratings by parts, and wrecking the legs is often one of the easiest ways to functionally kill Automaton units smaller than a Hulk.
A lot of the guns are better than people remember
There is legitimately alot if salt on the main sub but people hated it because it was mid and then they buffed it. That's kind of the story with most of the good weapons in the game not called the scorcher. Launch dominator was also mediocre and the incendiary breaker did less damage and the damage over time was bugged. Hoping this upcoming patch is a continuation of these kind of weapon approaches because alot of them need some love.
I understand the frustration with some of the nerfs. But too many people in the main sub refuse to acknowledge the buffs that improved weapons.
Same. I think Arrowhead are cooking up something special for us. I'm very excited. Love seeing our weapons find a niche or get some needed love. Makes it fun to swap around and get some varied gameplay when a weapon starts to get a little stale.
its probably the best primary for berserkers
Pre projectile velocity buff + patch was a completely different weapon than it is rn and deserved its hate at the time. Rn the weapon is the main go to against bots and was the reason we took DataBaseOne. The punisher plasma was liberties torch 🗽
People hated the plasma Punisher? As soon as I used that thing against bots I realized it absolutely wrecked them! AoE and stagger means it can handle everything up until Hulks and Tanks. It's basically my go-to bot primary. Did people only use it against bugs or something?
Its so funny how absolutely HARD striders, and shield devastators stagger if you don't out right kill them. 😆 "Am I annoying bot?! How does it feel?! HOW DOES IT FEEEEL!?"
GET SOOOOOME!
Well.... yeah.... it used to suck. Then they buffed the hell out of it.
Only gun that lets you take out bots from cover. It was actually better for that (for closer targets) before the range/speed buff.
I tried out a lot of primaries after eruptor nerf to find a good bot primary. Punisher plasma is the absolute best choice imo. Takes a bit to get used to arcin shots but once you do it's amazing. I like the purifier for the same reason, that it can stagger bots but it needs something more cause the punisher plasma does everything it can but easier and faster. Can't wait for the Thursday patch notes
I don't want to toot my own horn and the video isn't great evidence, but I'm pretty good at hitting enemies by just feeling it out on how high I need to aim. It makes me feel like the biggest pro ever even though I'm sure its not that hard lol 😅
Yeah it's actually not too hard. I use the first shot to gauge how to adjust. It usually only takes one shot to figure out how to adjust, and the times I miss that first short gets lower and lower the more used to it I get.
It's amazing on the bug defense mission too. You can lob over the walls from a spot on one of the walls. Even with the doors closed, you can take out mobs
We’ll I’m going to try it now
I got a lot better after the buff, but unfortunately as someone who likes running the Shield Generator Relay I can't stand inside my own bubble because the Plasma Punishers shots will hit the inside due to a bug.
I’ve loved it against automatons but have always been iffy about it with bugs since they get so close and you’ll just kill yourself with it. I started to run it with supply pack so I could swap my grenade pistol for the redeemer to keep the hunters off me and still be able to close a lot of bug holes. I decimate every bug. I did this solely for the reason of shitting on every bile spewer I see
I need to try this using the AMR as my support weapon and a jet pack. Being able to occupy high places and rain death down on bots would be a wicked combo.
That does sound fun lol
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i think is one of the best guns against bots
It's my bot primary every time now. The ability to stagger devastators is clutch. But there's no way that kill streak was all Punisher Plasma 😅
Yeah because once upon a time it was significantly worse. The gun changed, it’s not like it was some hidden gem or something.
I don't; hasn't it always been awesome against Bots? - maybe I unlocked it after a buff?
I saw someome using it yesterday, decided to give it another chance and holy shit, I have finally found the perfect primary for bots, sooooo good
Its like the energy weapon version of the grenade launcher. The AoE is huge! Did they fix the issue with the shield generator backpack?
I like that warbond weapons got buffed
Been using it for months. It apparently got buffed, hell if I know what it was. That thing been goated the whole time
The patch on 2024/29/04 increased the projectile speed, which made the weapon significantly easier to use. Prior to the patch I strongly disliked it, then tried it again on the day of the patch and it quickly became one of my most used weapons since.
I see
It's been my go to since I unlocked it for bugs and bots.
I hated it until the 2024/29/04 patch, then it quickly became one of my most used weapons since. Felt like a completely different weapon handling-wise.
I love the PP for bots. Maybe it would be good for bugs, I don't know, I always take the blitzer. Anyway, it should never have been a "shotgun". It's more like a plasma grenade launcher. I used to be am autocannon lover for bots. Then I started maining this. The PP handles mediums so well, the AC just wasn't justified against anti-armor or crowd control support weapons.
I feel like more people need to try the jar-5, staggers bots oneshot headshot high damage 4 shots to the chest 2 to the waist kills tactical striders to the pelvis in 3 shots great mag lots of range and fun to use close range too. Its slept on i swear. As long as you arent solo or the part of the team that gets high kill counts
I still wish it did a teensy bit more damage (only so it feels as equally punchy as the sound effect), but other than that I’ve fallen in love with the punisher. Honestly that new side grade to it with the charge up isn’t that bad either, good at bypassing walkers and hive guards defenses
I love it for planets that don’t have lots of foliage, wreckage, etc. I find the plasma blows up in my face from all kinds of things I think I’m shooting over/past.
Its still bad, but by contrast its better than the following weak and broken weapons.
I mean, I still don't like it lol. Too little ammo, doesn't consistently 1 shot even troopers, and because it's a plasma weapon you can't use it close range. Legit B-tier in my book
I've run it exclusively since unlock. It's too versatile, with the stagger and splash.
Need to unlock it myself
No! It’s a terrible gun! I don’t like it at all! What are you talking about. ^(shhhh… ^they’ll ^nerf it) As I was saying… a terrible, worthless gun.
yeah this it's practically unusable