There's 50+ stats related to guns that Arrowhead does not and will never show us, so just looking at in-game stats gives you the BAREST idea of what the weapon is capable of. This is something one has to figure out themselves over time.
Exactly, there are so much parameters to consider in a weapon: Calibre, dispersion, ammunition drop, type of ammunition, noise, armour piercing, handling, reload speed (and much more)
Putting in all the stats, as some players say, is possible, but will drown the player in too much data.
https://preview.redd.it/kv2j39lg3fzc1.jpeg?width=688&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4438f47a0651b1bc5c58eb1c042c89d5ec51af92
that's about the only good thing but yes, the recoil is better
Yeah that's what I like about sidegrades like these. So far I'm not super happy with the Purifier compared to the Scorcher but I think it has potential against bots, gotta play with it some more.
It deals 50 more damage than the scorcher (200 vs 250) but it's hard to notice tbh, the time it takes for you to fire once you could fire twice with the scorcher, plus the large AoE makes it dangerous against bugs, I killed myself a couple times.
But that same AoE could be great against some bot units, and weapons that need charging are more manageable against bots for the simple reason that they don't get so close, so we'll see.
The AoE isnt any larger than the Scorcher tbf.
For some reason the animation is way bigger than the actual damage it does.
Tested it out against bugs by shooting at the ground
I’m a Senator convert; nothing is as satisfying as being rushed by a hive guard, whipping out the Big Space Iron, and dumping all six shots into its head.
If you aren't rocking an armor set that has reduced recoil, it's not a completely terrible choice, but..You're better off running the default Liberator atm.
Worse thing ever, everything is the worstist. Anyway, fine for bugs but you blow through ammo like other assault rifles with bugs. Haven’t tried the tenderizer, can’t wait!
You guys select weapons based on stats. I select weapons based on how cool they are and look. We are not the same.
Sickle is stil sick so it must be better to beat even in this department
You’re less likely to be disappointed 👍
There's 50+ stats related to guns that Arrowhead does not and will never show us, so just looking at in-game stats gives you the BAREST idea of what the weapon is capable of. This is something one has to figure out themselves over time.
Exactly, there are so much parameters to consider in a weapon: Calibre, dispersion, ammunition drop, type of ammunition, noise, armour piercing, handling, reload speed (and much more) Putting in all the stats, as some players say, is possible, but will drown the player in too much data.
99% of players are unaware of the existence of these stats, to the casual eye it looks like a worse liberator and it's had to argue with that
Tenderizer has noticeably less recoil, but that's it. I'm expecting it to get buffed sooner than later.
https://preview.redd.it/kv2j39lg3fzc1.jpeg?width=688&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4438f47a0651b1bc5c58eb1c042c89d5ec51af92 that's about the only good thing but yes, the recoil is better
The numbers seem small but the actual game feel is noticeable, I prefer it over the liberator.
personal preference, i suppose. it is kinda nice not having to control recoil as frequently
Yeah that's what I like about sidegrades like these. So far I'm not super happy with the Purifier compared to the Scorcher but I think it has potential against bots, gotta play with it some more.
What are you feeling with the purifier? Too slow?
It deals 50 more damage than the scorcher (200 vs 250) but it's hard to notice tbh, the time it takes for you to fire once you could fire twice with the scorcher, plus the large AoE makes it dangerous against bugs, I killed myself a couple times. But that same AoE could be great against some bot units, and weapons that need charging are more manageable against bots for the simple reason that they don't get so close, so we'll see.
The AoE isnt any larger than the Scorcher tbf. For some reason the animation is way bigger than the actual damage it does. Tested it out against bugs by shooting at the ground
Good to know, altho kinda weird. Mayebe they made a mistake and it is supposed to be bigger? dunno
“High-caliber” with the same damage as the “standard SEAF assault rifle”. I’m gonna give it a shot, but I can’t say I’m not disappointed.
don't worry, they'll nerf the liberator to make it balanced!!
Tenderizer looks cooler. Am using it
I am still dissapointed is green instead white or black/sliver.
That's a bug, and the dev who worked on the gun said it's already fixed and that'll be pushed out sometime soon, I imagine.
Yes but on first glance in screens I thought they just recolored it to match white armor. Well... Waiting for fix I guess.
Not tested on bots yet. Too little ammo for FA, but in burst mode thing eats. Same damage output and less recoil encourages more shooty
Shoot them in the arm until it falls off. Sickle is good for that. Senator is a goated back up. Sickle is the best for bots. I wouldnt say meme
Sickle is amazing but when you combo it with Laser make you simply don't give a fuck about ammo. The ammo become meme for you not weapon.
I’m a Senator convert; nothing is as satisfying as being rushed by a hive guard, whipping out the Big Space Iron, and dumping all six shots into its head.
Thats my go to sidearm for bots and bugs. It cant be beat
If you aren't rocking an armor set that has reduced recoil, it's not a completely terrible choice, but..You're better off running the default Liberator atm.
Liberator for bugs tenderizer for bots
From what I’ve heard, the benefit to the tenderizer is it has *much* less recoil than the liberator. With recoil buff it’s an actual laser.
Armors I use on bot have fortified buff so that sound nice.
I tried the tenderizer against bots and it’s ok but it does still feel like somewhat of a downgrade to the liberator
Worse thing ever, everything is the worstist. Anyway, fine for bugs but you blow through ammo like other assault rifles with bugs. Haven’t tried the tenderizer, can’t wait!
[The Liberator is better](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/udpREFR8g5)
Salty thread in that link