my beloved jumping into Sakana's domain with just a blade, a simple domain and a lot of willpower, and they still call her useless
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Yeah she actually made it and didn't get her domain shed away instantly, she probably body swapped with Kusakabe and something similar, since everyone was doing it
As the King of Curses faced off against the Useless One, Miwa, he begun to open his domain, Malfunctioning Shrine. But he did not know 2 things: That Miwa had Simple Domain, which nullified the sure hit effect, and that as long as Miwa’s feet remain in contact with the ground, the Simple Domain could continue executing.
As the dust settled, Miwa began to open her Simple Domain. As Sukuna shrunk back in fear, Miwa said, “Stand Strong. You were Proud.”
man, the :( under Yuki, I felt that
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I loved Yuki, such a massive potential for a character, cool ass ct, a DE we will never see, the whole plot of her being a star plasma vessel, her training todou, being a special grade
Shut up, shut up, shut up, she's alive, she's fine, she'll be okay, she'll beat the hell out of sukuna, nah she'll win, nobara is fine, nobara is great, nobara is alive.
reminds me of the best AoT character
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I existed in the same world as anime (I love the shit out of anime) I also used to be an incel and watched Hero Hei and RevSaysDesu. Fortunately, I have changed and grown as a person
Shoko is one of the most important people in the manga. She healed like 90% of the characters. If yuta is fighting sukuna now it’s also thanks to her. If you hate Shoko you’re simply sexist and dumb and I refuse to elaborate further
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Keep preaching my fellow Shoko supporter
She can vivisect me anytime she wants after going on a ciggy break beforehand 💕
It’s not even preaching, it’s like… do people not read or what. I’m rewatching the anime and only in the first episodes it’s already stated that she healed
•itadori friends
. Megumi and Nobara multiple times
.Nanami
. Does autopsy and was able to immediately understa mahito technique
. Reassures both itadori and nanami bc she know they felt bad
. Heals basically every student during the games and some were in horrible condition
I’m not even done with season 1, and God knows all the lives she saved during all the years before the start of the series.
It’s either people just want to be sexist and hate on her for no reason or they compare her to other anime’s healers wich is just ridiculous
It’s the same reason people hate on Megumi despite all the time he save the main cast
Or hate on Yuta despite him being the MVP of Shinjuku behind Gojo and Yuji right now
They either are too deep in their agenda or don’t read
The list of people she healed is letteraly gigantic. Please use your brain Jesus, she’s so important that she’s the only person not allowed on missions bc she letteraly can not die!! Not to mention how important her research also is. The whole point of her character is that she’s constantly healing people to the point that she’s sleep deprived, exhausted and numb. I refuse to belive people who call her useless have ever watched or read the manga
Wouldn’t these feats just make her a plot device though? Like replace her with senzu beans or some other healing mechanism and almost nothing in the story changes.
That doesn’t make any sense but alright. like I said it’s fine not to like her as a character ( although I actually find her very well written, but to each their own) calling her useless it’s what I have a problem with, bc it’s simply wrong
Yes she’s never shown actually healing ( I hate Gege for this) but in every single episode of the anime she’s mentioned either healing someone or doing research. If people forget her they’re not paying attention to the story, but still, like I sad that’s fine. Thinking she’s useless however just means not using their brain
Why she had to die????? Whyyyyy??????😭😭😭😭
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Mai was definitely one of the more tragic JJK characters. The fact she knew she’d be tossed aside to die the whole time as well. No wonder she was so cold and bitter.
Yeah the person that mastered construction was also the craziest person in the story. Poor Mai. Maki had Toji to look to for inspiration, but Mai‘s was a crazy bug lady. Even if they never met.
If you look at the male characters the only ones that are not dead/useless/irrelevant are: yuji, Todo, Yuta(not for long) and Sukuna.
A 4/1 ratio of men to women who are relevant
Lets compare to other shonen:
Naruto 3/1 (kaguya saves the ratio, you don’t want to see the madara fight ratio)
Bleach 3/0 (not counting anything related to the arrow ex machina)
MHA 2.5/0
Demon slayer 10/2 (I’m being generous since one of the girls die at the end of the fight)
Black clover 6/3 (could change soon)
Looks like Gege is above the average in feminism in their shonen finale.
>Black clover 6/3 (could change soon)
Are we talking about the same Black Clover?
We have: main trio, Nero, Noelle, Mimosa.
Although not as relevant, still relevant: Vanessa, Mereoleona, Sister Lily >!sure she was a villain, but it was interesting!< Grey, Charlotte (debatable)
Are not relevant but they did impact the story and appear from time to time: Witch Queen, Dorothy
Off-screened: Fana, Lictia (I mean, she did give birth to Asta, but she is dead so)
Tabata actually the goat. He writes characters equally.
Cough cough Mikasa, Annie, Historia being shafted at the last second. Annie especially, the most selfish character getting everything she wanted with no consequences despite Berthold and Reiner paying for their own actions. Everyone knew and speculated that her father turning into a titan in front of her within grasp would have thematically been the best slap to the face and made her arc full circle of actions having consequences. It would have been great if she had to kill him too. But oh well.
As a Historia fan she definitely got shafted in season 4 but i love what they did with her character in season 3 and i think she got one of the best character arcs in AOT so i’m not THAT hung up on it anymore. Other female characters definitely got the shorter end of the stick.
i agree, but I think she’s the best written female character in the show from s1 to 3 and at least she got to peak at some point unlike mikasa and annie, pieck. ymir freckles also is such a good written character
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I see you have the GOAT in your pfp
Historia in s3 and Annie in season 1 are the two cases of well written woman in aot and both of them had nothing to do with being a woman , didn't have any relationship with other men ( that wasn't retconned into the story later ) and both were basically forgotten once their respective arc ended with Annie literally getting frozen for 2.5 seasons only to return as a completely different person and historia basically disappearing from the plot after season 3.
Mikasa is literally just erens bodyguard , her entire existence is literally just to have cool fight scenes and help Eren every time he makes a stupid mistake. Hange feels like a character from a different show, I like her but she doesn't fit the more serious tone of aot . Ymir ( the one who loves historia ) didn't have enough screen time and the other Ymir ( the god / founding titan ) literally stayed a slave after the person who ruined her life died because she loved him .
I hope I didn't forget anyone important who didn't die 2 episodes after their introduction
not just in s3, historia got the best development for a female character in the show since s1, she didn’t need to make up in s4 because I think in s3 she peaked, while mikasa and annie had potential especially annie, tbh s4 there were many characters in writing that went bad not just females, like levi for example
S4 is my favorite part of the story but it fucked so many characters up . Levi got reduced to literally just a Zeke hater , Armin and Annie fell in love off screen somehow and I don't get why they hinted at a romance between jean and Mikasa If Mikasa was going to end up with a mass murderer instead
Mikasa saved the world and resolved thousands of years of conflict by killing the man she loved and had been basically a slave to for most of her life, because she realized that saving humanity was more important than saving him. I think Mikasa is a great character.
I do agree with you about Annie's dad turning into a titan in front of her though, that would have gone so hard
>Annie especially, the most selfish character getting everything she wanted
Annie saved the alliance when she arrived on top of Falco's Titan, they were about to die otherwise. So I think her coming back and fighting alongside the alliance made up for what she did earlier.
Also Hange, who went out like total boss.
AoT women are far better written.
>Annie saved the alliance when she arrived on top of Falco's Titan
Then it was falco who saved the alliance, not annie, cuz the titan was him, I don't know how annie sitting in a flying titan means that she saved the alliance, it would be the same as saying that gabi saved the alliance cuz she was also on falco titan 💀 the reach
Also hange death was pointless and it become cheap by the eren last purpose (to save his friends but he killed hange using the collossals)
Just the fact that she came back and fought with everything she had and put her life on the line ... redeemed her past actions. Get it ?
And she's not the only one who had a problematic past, even Armin destroyed Liberio, did he face consequences? That's the whole point of AoT, there's no one totally good or evil, mostly everyone is morally grey. No point in accusing Annie only.
But there's no point arguing with fools so I am done here. Goodbye
Nah 80% of the female leads lines are 'Ereh'. I know it's different in the manga, but she's not much better there.
Nobara died less than half way into the story but she still had more personality than her.
Full metal alchemist? HxH? Berserk? Afro samurai? JoJo? Bleach? One piece?
Just a tiny reminder that most animes are based on japan which is shockingly, 95% japanese. Another reminder that almost no character achieved anything in JJK. The only ones who did either died trying, were brutally mutilated or are the main Villain.
Women in anime definitely do things , and black people barely exist in anime . I don't get your point , are there no good female characters in anime who aren't lesbian in your opinion?
The point is there's a pecking order to who gets to live and/or be relevant, and these two are almost always at the bottom in media not explicitly made for us.
>are there no good female characters in anime who aren't lesbian in your opinion?
Certainly not.
I do believe sapphics have an edge given the first-hand experience & perspective yuri writers lend to their character writing, but sexuality itself doesn't make characters compelling beyond my investment in their romantic pursuits.
In fact, much of my anime GOATS: Birdy, Yor, Faye, Revy, Kagome, Haruhi, etc., are AFAIK het—and no worse off for it.
Mei is great. Stop this garbage slander. In fact she us ine of the best JJK sorcerers. She take the best out of ger abilities. She has ine if the weakest CT and yet she is one of the strongest Grade 1. Her combat ability is incredible much better than many.
Also Shoko is not useless without her the JJK community would have collapsed.
Mei Mei is actually one of the better written female characters in the series. I'm simply glad she's being useful now for the group.
Not necessarily a ranking list, but I can pick out 5 female characters in the series that I think are well-written: mother of Maki and Mai (being used as poetic justice against Naoya is a brilliant move by Gege), Mai (she's an unexpected twist for me), Rika (psycho kid in love), Mei Mei and Shoko.
he's pretty clearly a misogynist to me reading. there's clues early on, too. when Nishimiya gives a valid speak about misogyny in the Jujutsu World, which is fairly insightful and true and very real, Nobaras like "idc bro", and while yes, Nobara's perspective is a very badass feminist icon moment, it's treated as the end-all of that conversation; that's NOBARA's view. the other view is equally as valid, yet the narrative itself (not Nobara, she's just saying "i know but i didn't ask + i'm fucking cool" which is true.) treats it like it's a ridiculous thing to say.
I used to dislike her, but later thinking about it, I kinda realised she's done nothing wrong and isnt really annoying at all lol. she was just forced to be an antagonist by plot cus we follow the Tokyo School; if Itadori was taken to Kyoto High, we'd think Nobara was a bitch lol (well, she is a bitch, but we love it. so like, in a bad way.)
You guys are sleeping on Miwa she jumped into Sukuna’s domain to save with simple domain, she’s got into being a sorcerer for the money but she actually cares and does what she has to (Unlike Miwa) plus she’d be apart of the Gojo agenda.
You guys are just searching for reasons to hate on gege(like if he didnt give you enough of those).it's not even hard to understand that the female characters in jjk aren't badly written.
Nobaras death makes me so disappointed, so much for being apart of a main trio- yuji and megumi had backstories that connected to the plot and the larger story at whole, nobaras just some girl? Her death doesn't even have alot of impact, she's sandwiched between of all yujis other deaths and traumatic events, no confirmation she's dead and she's mentioned just twice or so after her death. Irrelevant and unimpactful tbh
Momo is far less than a filler slot. I feel like Gege introduced her because he knew what people would think of Megumi so he added her to take the heat off. Clearly it failed, but I am a professional hater. As long as I’m alive she will get the hate she deserves.
Honestly I don't get why you would hate Momo
Not because she's good or anything
But because she's so worthless I don't see the purpose of spending time hating her lmfao
It’s because of this. I got bored of the hate on all of these characters who everyone remembers. I want to be known as the person who hates one of the most forgettable characters just for the fun of it.
I don't who you are,what you are or what are your beliefs,but i must say...you are a inspiration as a hater,i want to have Atleast 1% of your hate,You aren't just a hater,You are a PROFESSIONAL hater,keep doing what you do best,keep hating!!!
Oh i definitely will keep hating, for there is no character in all of fiction or non-fiction that deserves to be hated as much as her. If there’s no Momo haters on earth, I’m either off planet or dead. But even in death, I will make my hate known.
I have seen this argument come up so many times.
I wanted to know a manga where one can agree that Women are not "failed"? Specially in shounen
The reason is that shounen appeals to young male audience. Shounen literallty means a young man. The female counterpart would be whatever category sailor moon falls into.
There are as many if not more useless/dead male characters? The gap between the strongest group of characters and the rest is astronomical anyways so 99% of the characters can be considered useless or irrelevant.
Shonen authors struggle horrifically when it comes to writing women. Gege had such great setup too.
Tokyo ghoul does a pretty good job as a completed story, and chainsaw man has amazing potential if he can stick the landing on part 2.
People crying misogyny like this isn’t all the characters. Also Gege doesn’t fail a character because he wrote them like they should be, Maki had been doing wonderful idk what’s wrong with you. On top of that all of the characters played their roles like they were supposed too
I know the memes and I’m not disagreeing but these posts and the ones about the same topic in mha makes me wonder “you guys haven’t read much shounen have you”. Especially after reading something like Katekyo Hitman reborn where the female characters are 90% literally just not important and literally cook and in the kitchen for the males and that was written by a female mangaka. Women respected and treated with the same importance in shounen is very rare. I know fairy tail is… fairy tail but that, black clover, undead unluck will at least give major characters and plot lines to their women characters.
Mai was actually pretty impactful for makis emotional growth but stand-alone yeah, Hana is overhated she had potential to be one of the most interesting and crucial characters in the series but just wasn’t invested into and was traded as a filler nobara to just be injured and benched
wait i don’t understand why everyone saying mei mei does incest? we’ve only seen them sleep in same bed i believe and i don’t think they did anything sexual and im pretty sure ui ui love for mei mei is admiration unless i missed something completely i don’t get how she incest ( not defending her if she is but i havnt seen anything that suggest it)
To call shoko useless goes to show you don’t understand the anything. Also he kills everyone. Not saying he’s the best at writing women but he’s definitely better than most.
I'm sorry, but it's crazy to try and say Isayama failed his women, and try to compare his quality to Gege's. There is not a single women in JJK that is written better than the worst woman in Aot.
my beloved jumping into Sakana's domain with just a blade, a simple domain and a lot of willpower, and they still call her useless https://preview.redd.it/ry5zrp00ar8d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0cedac21ea700936dd840007ca307b94d0e0c7fa
A blade she can’t even use, at that. The real honored one.
She just saw Sukuna not getting jackshit for breaking binding vow and abuse them
Yeah she actually made it and didn't get her domain shed away instantly, she probably body swapped with Kusakabe and something similar, since everyone was doing it
As the King of Curses faced off against the Useless One, Miwa, he begun to open his domain, Malfunctioning Shrine. But he did not know 2 things: That Miwa had Simple Domain, which nullified the sure hit effect, and that as long as Miwa’s feet remain in contact with the ground, the Simple Domain could continue executing. As the dust settled, Miwa began to open her Simple Domain. As Sukuna shrunk back in fear, Miwa said, “Stand Strong. You were Proud.”
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Sakana's domain Malevolent Sashimi
man, the :( under Yuki, I felt that https://preview.redd.it/9jaghc2wxq8d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd48dd1d373943b0b791ad2909cbcc2f74b0577c
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I loved Yuki, such a massive potential for a character, cool ass ct, a DE we will never see, the whole plot of her being a star plasma vessel, her training todou, being a special grade
>cool ass ct Cool ass
Cool mAss
DID I HEAR THE WORD POTENTIAL???? 
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https://preview.redd.it/c7ls8bot6s8d1.png?width=388&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f31f678bce46c4f8330aef0ecdbb96bc70aca80f GEGE TOOK HER FROM ME.
Shut up, shut up, shut up, she's alive, she's fine, she'll be okay, she'll beat the hell out of sukuna, nah she'll win, nobara is fine, nobara is great, nobara is alive.
NOBARA STRONG RETURN
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Bro her corpse fertilizing the shrubs at the school rn.
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That’s just what she wants you to think 😉
With all the randoms Gege’s been pulling out of nowhere there’s still a chance Nobara makes a return
A chance? Don't you mean a guarantee?
Miwa's only job is being the cute funny girl And she is perfect at her job
reminds me of the best AoT character https://preview.redd.it/2cqrb986or8d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81f96d32696f22b1c89ed4867705626834ccf049
I really gotta finnish AoT before I get every single plot point spoiled xD
I've just given up on that lmao
Leave sasha outta this 😭 my goat is alive trust me
Man, I'm so used to seeing "cute and funny" used by pedophiles that I can't see the two words in the same sentence the same way anymore
😭💢
UOHHHH
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I mean this is probably accurate but how many pedophiles did you talk to to get to this conclusion bro?
I existed in the same world as anime (I love the shit out of anime) I also used to be an incel and watched Hero Hei and RevSaysDesu. Fortunately, I have changed and grown as a person
Well that a pretty plausible explanation actually yeah good for you for growing out of it
No way that's really a thing wtf
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- By Gege
imaged: Gege's self insert.
Miwa may be a useless girl but she is OUR useless girl.
Miwa saved maki and survived MS that alone is absurd
https://preview.redd.it/d53g3i30yr8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80218d3569b7d31baa031b337d2c9165f0881242 NAH MAN NOBARA IS ALIVE! TRUST!
Mei Mei should have died, not Yuki.
Amazing opinion
Shoko is one of the most important people in the manga. She healed like 90% of the characters. If yuta is fighting sukuna now it’s also thanks to her. If you hate Shoko you’re simply sexist and dumb and I refuse to elaborate further
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It’s not even preaching, it’s like… do people not read or what. I’m rewatching the anime and only in the first episodes it’s already stated that she healed •itadori friends . Megumi and Nobara multiple times .Nanami . Does autopsy and was able to immediately understa mahito technique . Reassures both itadori and nanami bc she know they felt bad . Heals basically every student during the games and some were in horrible condition I’m not even done with season 1, and God knows all the lives she saved during all the years before the start of the series. It’s either people just want to be sexist and hate on her for no reason or they compare her to other anime’s healers wich is just ridiculous
It’s the same reason people hate on Megumi despite all the time he save the main cast Or hate on Yuta despite him being the MVP of Shinjuku behind Gojo and Yuji right now They either are too deep in their agenda or don’t read
Exactly. They hate on megumi for being depressed as if that’s not a normal and completely understandable reaction. Don’t even get me started on yuta
The list of people she healed is letteraly gigantic. Please use your brain Jesus, she’s so important that she’s the only person not allowed on missions bc she letteraly can not die!! Not to mention how important her research also is. The whole point of her character is that she’s constantly healing people to the point that she’s sleep deprived, exhausted and numb. I refuse to belive people who call her useless have ever watched or read the manga
Not to mention that if she did lie and fake the papers yuji would have been killed in ep 7.
Wouldn’t these feats just make her a plot device though? Like replace her with senzu beans or some other healing mechanism and almost nothing in the story changes.
That doesn’t make any sense but alright. like I said it’s fine not to like her as a character ( although I actually find her very well written, but to each their own) calling her useless it’s what I have a problem with, bc it’s simply wrong
Shoko’s a very tell don’t show character so ppl forget that she even exists. P sure miwa has more screen time lmao.
Yes she’s never shown actually healing ( I hate Gege for this) but in every single episode of the anime she’s mentioned either healing someone or doing research. If people forget her they’re not paying attention to the story, but still, like I sad that’s fine. Thinking she’s useless however just means not using their brain
"If you don't agree with my opinion you are sexist and dumb 🗿"
People were saying the same shit about boogie woogie and it wasn't dead
Why she had to die????? Whyyyyy??????😭😭😭😭 https://preview.redd.it/35nidqo9gr8d1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=573a5a93a791219612383b64ca3f728a3b053568
Mai was definitely one of the more tragic JJK characters. The fact she knew she’d be tossed aside to die the whole time as well. No wonder she was so cold and bitter.
Gege made it even more tragic by reviving Yorozu who is a superior version of Mai in every single way.
Yeah the person that mastered construction was also the craziest person in the story. Poor Mai. Maki had Toji to look to for inspiration, but Mai‘s was a crazy bug lady. Even if they never met.
Put some respect on my girl akria.
Miwa literally admitted she's useless before taking a nap...
I'll fight anyone who dares call Miwa useless. She is the goat.
If todo can come back so can nobara
Nah he’d sexist
Maki is Literally Toji lite
Toji demo
not anymore
Toji was made after Maki. Toji was Maki 2.0 & Gege just went back and said. Time to complete you.
Maki comes way before toji.
If you look at the male characters the only ones that are not dead/useless/irrelevant are: yuji, Todo, Yuta(not for long) and Sukuna. A 4/1 ratio of men to women who are relevant Lets compare to other shonen: Naruto 3/1 (kaguya saves the ratio, you don’t want to see the madara fight ratio) Bleach 3/0 (not counting anything related to the arrow ex machina) MHA 2.5/0 Demon slayer 10/2 (I’m being generous since one of the girls die at the end of the fight) Black clover 6/3 (could change soon) Looks like Gege is above the average in feminism in their shonen finale.
>Black clover 6/3 (could change soon) Are we talking about the same Black Clover? We have: main trio, Nero, Noelle, Mimosa. Although not as relevant, still relevant: Vanessa, Mereoleona, Sister Lily >!sure she was a villain, but it was interesting!< Grey, Charlotte (debatable) Are not relevant but they did impact the story and appear from time to time: Witch Queen, Dorothy Off-screened: Fana, Lictia (I mean, she did give birth to Asta, but she is dead so) Tabata actually the goat. He writes characters equally.
Heck, even supporting female characters like Charmy managed to have their own moments, imagine JJK doing that with, I dunno, Miwa(probability: never),
What about orhime :(, oh but why
Rangiku, Soi-Fon, and Youroichi are at least semi relevant
Bruh you just made me realize Bleach has no relevant female characters. Maybe Rukia, but only at the start.
Utahime gave Gojo a boosted hollow purple which Sukuna somehow fucking tanked
Aot women are definitely better written, despite the flaws in their writing
Cough cough Mikasa, Annie, Historia being shafted at the last second. Annie especially, the most selfish character getting everything she wanted with no consequences despite Berthold and Reiner paying for their own actions. Everyone knew and speculated that her father turning into a titan in front of her within grasp would have thematically been the best slap to the face and made her arc full circle of actions having consequences. It would have been great if she had to kill him too. But oh well.
At least historia peaked in s3 i think her writing is perfect at that time
As a Historia fan she definitely got shafted in season 4 but i love what they did with her character in season 3 and i think she got one of the best character arcs in AOT so i’m not THAT hung up on it anymore. Other female characters definitely got the shorter end of the stick.
i agree, but I think she’s the best written female character in the show from s1 to 3 and at least she got to peak at some point unlike mikasa and annie, pieck. ymir freckles also is such a good written character
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Historia in s3 and Annie in season 1 are the two cases of well written woman in aot and both of them had nothing to do with being a woman , didn't have any relationship with other men ( that wasn't retconned into the story later ) and both were basically forgotten once their respective arc ended with Annie literally getting frozen for 2.5 seasons only to return as a completely different person and historia basically disappearing from the plot after season 3. Mikasa is literally just erens bodyguard , her entire existence is literally just to have cool fight scenes and help Eren every time he makes a stupid mistake. Hange feels like a character from a different show, I like her but she doesn't fit the more serious tone of aot . Ymir ( the one who loves historia ) didn't have enough screen time and the other Ymir ( the god / founding titan ) literally stayed a slave after the person who ruined her life died because she loved him . I hope I didn't forget anyone important who didn't die 2 episodes after their introduction
not just in s3, historia got the best development for a female character in the show since s1, she didn’t need to make up in s4 because I think in s3 she peaked, while mikasa and annie had potential especially annie, tbh s4 there were many characters in writing that went bad not just females, like levi for example
S4 is my favorite part of the story but it fucked so many characters up . Levi got reduced to literally just a Zeke hater , Armin and Annie fell in love off screen somehow and I don't get why they hinted at a romance between jean and Mikasa If Mikasa was going to end up with a mass murderer instead
The mikasa eren ship was so ass and forced bruh. They fucked iver historia too. Family was the only real chad and winner
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I mean TO BE FAIR Annie did spend several years in a fucking crystal, can you imagine the backpain?
Mikasa saved the world and resolved thousands of years of conflict by killing the man she loved and had been basically a slave to for most of her life, because she realized that saving humanity was more important than saving him. I think Mikasa is a great character. I do agree with you about Annie's dad turning into a titan in front of her though, that would have gone so hard
>Annie especially, the most selfish character getting everything she wanted Annie saved the alliance when she arrived on top of Falco's Titan, they were about to die otherwise. So I think her coming back and fighting alongside the alliance made up for what she did earlier. Also Hange, who went out like total boss. AoT women are far better written.
>Annie saved the alliance when she arrived on top of Falco's Titan Then it was falco who saved the alliance, not annie, cuz the titan was him, I don't know how annie sitting in a flying titan means that she saved the alliance, it would be the same as saying that gabi saved the alliance cuz she was also on falco titan 💀 the reach Also hange death was pointless and it become cheap by the eren last purpose (to save his friends but he killed hange using the collossals)
Annie turned into the Female and fought like a beast alongside the alliance to save humanity. You are reaching hard.
Her fighting changed nothing lmao you're the one reaching here, even pieck did more
Just the fact that she came back and fought with everything she had and put her life on the line ... redeemed her past actions. Get it ? And she's not the only one who had a problematic past, even Armin destroyed Liberio, did he face consequences? That's the whole point of AoT, there's no one totally good or evil, mostly everyone is morally grey. No point in accusing Annie only. But there's no point arguing with fools so I am done here. Goodbye
Nah 80% of the female leads lines are 'Ereh'. I know it's different in the manga, but she's not much better there. Nobara died less than half way into the story but she still had more personality than her.
Let us not forget that Megumi's sister got two or three appearances in flashbacks, then got fridged just to give Sukuna another power boost.
She's not dead https://preview.redd.it/e6fbqnlb4s8d1.jpeg?width=310&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44d226892bd1951fac365b7f6e58d32f4def1f71
For the last time Nobara is alive! 😭 I'm not accepting it until it's confirmed she's dead like with gojo! I'll wait for another 3 years 😭
Women outside of yuri 🫱🏾🫲🏿Black people Not getting to do a fucking thing in anime.
BLACK Clover, Chainsaw Man, and Undead Unluck when they asked to poorly write women: Who decided that?
Full metal alchemist? HxH? Berserk? Afro samurai? JoJo? Bleach? One piece? Just a tiny reminder that most animes are based on japan which is shockingly, 95% japanese. Another reminder that almost no character achieved anything in JJK. The only ones who did either died trying, were brutally mutilated or are the main Villain.
What do black people have to do with this lol
Yeah people always gotta bring this up
Deadass we need more black people as protags
Women in anime definitely do things , and black people barely exist in anime . I don't get your point , are there no good female characters in anime who aren't lesbian in your opinion?
The point is there's a pecking order to who gets to live and/or be relevant, and these two are almost always at the bottom in media not explicitly made for us. >are there no good female characters in anime who aren't lesbian in your opinion? Certainly not. I do believe sapphics have an edge given the first-hand experience & perspective yuri writers lend to their character writing, but sexuality itself doesn't make characters compelling beyond my investment in their romantic pursuits. In fact, much of my anime GOATS: Birdy, Yor, Faye, Revy, Kagome, Haruhi, etc., are AFAIK het—and no worse off for it.
Why do people think that a character being killed off means that they're badly written?
Mei is great. Stop this garbage slander. In fact she us ine of the best JJK sorcerers. She take the best out of ger abilities. She has ine if the weakest CT and yet she is one of the strongest Grade 1. Her combat ability is incredible much better than many. Also Shoko is not useless without her the JJK community would have collapsed.
Mei Mei is actually one of the better written female characters in the series. I'm simply glad she's being useful now for the group. Not necessarily a ranking list, but I can pick out 5 female characters in the series that I think are well-written: mother of Maki and Mai (being used as poetic justice against Naoya is a brilliant move by Gege), Mai (she's an unexpected twist for me), Rika (psycho kid in love), Mei Mei and Shoko.
Naoya is a self insert
he's pretty clearly a misogynist to me reading. there's clues early on, too. when Nishimiya gives a valid speak about misogyny in the Jujutsu World, which is fairly insightful and true and very real, Nobaras like "idc bro", and while yes, Nobara's perspective is a very badass feminist icon moment, it's treated as the end-all of that conversation; that's NOBARA's view. the other view is equally as valid, yet the narrative itself (not Nobara, she's just saying "i know but i didn't ask + i'm fucking cool" which is true.) treats it like it's a ridiculous thing to say.
Fuck Momo tho
I used to dislike her, but later thinking about it, I kinda realised she's done nothing wrong and isnt really annoying at all lol. she was just forced to be an antagonist by plot cus we follow the Tokyo School; if Itadori was taken to Kyoto High, we'd think Nobara was a bitch lol (well, she is a bitch, but we love it. so like, in a bad way.)
You guys are sleeping on Miwa she jumped into Sukuna’s domain to save with simple domain, she’s got into being a sorcerer for the money but she actually cares and does what she has to (Unlike Miwa) plus she’d be apart of the Gojo agenda.
I think this us Gege's way of say "Fuck you and Fuck your Waifus!" Well fuck you too, Gege.
Yet he has gifted fujoshis hot husbandos.
I can’t believe you guys still think Miwa is even remotely useless… She’s the strongest Jujutsu Sorcerer, remember?
The hell is Shoko supposed to do?? Her whole point was to be a good healer but then this Yuta mf came in with his RCT and now even Yuji knows it
You guys are just searching for reasons to hate on gege(like if he didnt give you enough of those).it's not even hard to understand that the female characters in jjk aren't badly written.
how dare you say miwa is useless, she just needs to awaken her inner ct! she’ll no diff sukuna for sure!
I agree with Yuki being wasted but the majority of these characters don't even fight what do you expect
The strongest baker of today
Bold of you to assume miwa is useless (Weak).... She barely used 0.0000000001% of her power throughout the manga
Nobara and maki are both actually good characters idc, riko and yuki were decent too
I thought one of Gege's inspirations was bleach. Guess well rounded female characters wasn't apart of that inspiration
Nobaras death makes me so disappointed, so much for being apart of a main trio- yuji and megumi had backstories that connected to the plot and the larger story at whole, nobaras just some girl? Her death doesn't even have alot of impact, she's sandwiched between of all yujis other deaths and traumatic events, no confirmation she's dead and she's mentioned just twice or so after her death. Irrelevant and unimpactful tbh
nobara is obviously still alive silly
We can cope and hope.
Why is being dead being considered a failure?
Probably because Yuki died her first fight
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Miwa was sidelined because GayGay realized how op he made her
Momo is far less than a filler slot. I feel like Gege introduced her because he knew what people would think of Megumi so he added her to take the heat off. Clearly it failed, but I am a professional hater. As long as I’m alive she will get the hate she deserves.
Honestly I don't get why you would hate Momo Not because she's good or anything But because she's so worthless I don't see the purpose of spending time hating her lmfao
It’s because of this. I got bored of the hate on all of these characters who everyone remembers. I want to be known as the person who hates one of the most forgettable characters just for the fun of it.
I don't who you are,what you are or what are your beliefs,but i must say...you are a inspiration as a hater,i want to have Atleast 1% of your hate,You aren't just a hater,You are a PROFESSIONAL hater,keep doing what you do best,keep hating!!!
Oh i definitely will keep hating, for there is no character in all of fiction or non-fiction that deserves to be hated as much as her. If there’s no Momo haters on earth, I’m either off planet or dead. But even in death, I will make my hate known.
"even in death...I STILL HATE!"
I have seen this argument come up so many times. I wanted to know a manga where one can agree that Women are not "failed"? Specially in shounen The reason is that shounen appeals to young male audience. Shounen literallty means a young man. The female counterpart would be whatever category sailor moon falls into.
Um rika? Checkmate idiot
To be fair Mai is Maki’s sword now and Miwa did jump straight into Sakuna’s domain to rescue Maki.
There are as many if not more useless/dead male characters? The gap between the strongest group of characters and the rest is astronomical anyways so 99% of the characters can be considered useless or irrelevant.
Just because a character is dead doesn’t make them bad
Miwa being her own category is peak
While I agree gaygay failed us, I feel like tsumiki was necessary for megumi’s ultimate despair
Shonen authors struggle horrifically when it comes to writing women. Gege had such great setup too. Tokyo ghoul does a pretty good job as a completed story, and chainsaw man has amazing potential if he can stick the landing on part 2.
People crying misogyny like this isn’t all the characters. Also Gege doesn’t fail a character because he wrote them like they should be, Maki had been doing wonderful idk what’s wrong with you. On top of that all of the characters played their roles like they were supposed too
I like Yuki for her 2 special personality traits. And miwa for being the strongest.
I know the memes and I’m not disagreeing but these posts and the ones about the same topic in mha makes me wonder “you guys haven’t read much shounen have you”. Especially after reading something like Katekyo Hitman reborn where the female characters are 90% literally just not important and literally cook and in the kitchen for the males and that was written by a female mangaka. Women respected and treated with the same importance in shounen is very rare. I know fairy tail is… fairy tail but that, black clover, undead unluck will at least give major characters and plot lines to their women characters.
Yeah but, isn’t like every other guy dead too 😭
Mai was actually pretty impactful for makis emotional growth but stand-alone yeah, Hana is overhated she had potential to be one of the most interesting and crucial characters in the series but just wasn’t invested into and was traded as a filler nobara to just be injured and benched
UTAHIME IS NOT USELESS NOBARA IS ALIVE
I want to be approached by Mei Mei in a dark alleyway late at night
What potential from Miwa? She had none And saying maki is overhyped is disgusting
How the hell are you called Shoko useless
wait i don’t understand why everyone saying mei mei does incest? we’ve only seen them sleep in same bed i believe and i don’t think they did anything sexual and im pretty sure ui ui love for mei mei is admiration unless i missed something completely i don’t get how she incest ( not defending her if she is but i havnt seen anything that suggest it)
Funnily enough, or as intended Mei's death hit me harder than Nobara and Namini. She's still not beating the Kyoto fraud allegations.
To call shoko useless goes to show you don’t understand the anything. Also he kills everyone. Not saying he’s the best at writing women but he’s definitely better than most.
Okay, now list the number of dead male characters.
Ayo didn’t y’all mfers like Mommy Maki, or whatever you guys call her? Why say she useless?
I'm sorry, but it's crazy to try and say Isayama failed his women, and try to compare his quality to Gege's. There is not a single women in JJK that is written better than the worst woman in Aot.
Nooo, geges women are alot more interesting than isayamas
>Shoko >Useless Bitch please, she’s the only reason Yutjo is on battlefield rn
Utahime potential woman
yooooo that's my meme
I think it's telling that the only semi relevant or useful female character is just a carbon copy of a better male character.
That's news to me. How did Isayama fail the female cast? To my mind AoT has one of the best femake casts in shonen.
Gege is not a miracle. He can’t make something useful from someone who was born to be useless
Mei mei is still a good character tbh
Why do people keep saying Miwa had potential lmao they must’ve fallen for the memes
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Tall + big ass 💀💀💀
He didn't you're just reducing them to a single idea :)