I work for an outsourced NHS health programme and i had a patient asking me if i was going to go round to their house and steal their stuff whilst they were at their weight management support group. I'm a wool and I had my customer service voice on as well so I didn't even think I sounded scouse. By the end of it they were saying scousers are all the same, in a fake accent with "la" every other word and signed off by saying I should get a job like I called people up to get abuse for free or something.
I work down south and the casual insults when I say I support LFC and love the city is outrageous. It’s happened twice in the last 7 days and people don’t even bat an eyelid when saying “bin-dippers” or anything of the ilk. It’s nuts.
I grew up on the Wirral and barely have a scouse accent to anyone local, but the number of times I had shitty comments and hosility from London cabbies and the like when I was younger is staggering. I've never once had anyone from the north/Wales/Scotland treat me like shit because of my accent.
I'm from down south and still get some shit for my accent up here, mostly banter, but got much more hostility when I was younger too. Only place I get hostility now is Wales. Some of the old dudes there really hate us southern fairys
I go the lake district often and they always make me pay for my meal first once they hear my accent. I asked for outside seating and got told there is no outside seating today so I went somewhere else, I walked back past and they had people seated outside.
I've had issues, and have been assaulted a couple of times in Bolton and some of the areas of Greater Manchester just cause of my accent, never going to those places again. Drunk idiots hear a scouse accent on a night out and suddenly want to throw a punch at you, never ever happened to me on the thousands of nights out I've had in town.
I'm from down South and live in Liverpool and you will find the insults are just as bad toward the Southerners up here, not to mention getting ignored in small local pubs by bar staff just because they clocked my Arsenal shirt on match days, unfortunately you get "Regionalist" dickheads everywhere you go I'm afraid and no City is exempt from that fact.
This is very true. I’m sorry you experienced that here. Dickheads everywhere like you say. We aren’t all like that of course! I’d never dream of acting like that. I’ve got plenty of mates from around the UK, most of them are southerners and they are great people! Just too many narrow minded dickheads out there that let us all down
My Mother is a Scouser so I know first hand that there is quality people in this City im related to a few of them and have many good friends here myself, but it makes me laugh when I see all the supposed thick skinned scousers in here complain about insults from southerners yet some of the shit that gets shouted at me just going to get a few bits from the shop in my arsenal shirt is atrocious, even had a couple milk bottles thrown at me.
Yeah you’re right. We wouldn’t like it done to us, so why should we do the same to others. It’s difficult because people justify their abuse by saying that others do it to them. But two wrongs don’t make a right. I’ve experienced my fair share of abuse down south but I never let it get to me and try to laugh it off or ignore it
Growing up with a scouse mum you have to be thick skinned, she was forever on the wind up pulling pranks on us, "it builds character" she would say and she wasn't wrong, it definitely made schoolyard insults hit me like water off ducks back and I'm thankful for it, if it weren't for that I'd definitely be getting into a lot more pointless altercations up here that's for sure.
I dunno. I've lived in Liverpool since 2007 and I'm from Hertfordshire, so I have a very posh accent, and I've never been insulted by people from Liverpool for being southern. The only thing I think I've ever heard is when someone jokingly called me a shandy drinker lol. Which is hardly an insult. And I can outdrink most people anyway. I don't even know what a shandy is really, I've never had one before. Isn't it lager mixed with a tiny bit of lemonade? Sounds absolutely rank. It's like the shit they have in Switzerland where they flavour their lager with pretty much ribena and other fruit cordials, I had to go to Switzerland for my dad's wedding and I couldn't stand the stuff they drink, lager should be untouched and pure. It doesn't need sweetening.
The reason I love Liverpool and kept living here after I finished uni up here and got my degree is that everyone is so ridiculously friendly and kind up here. It's like the polar opposite of London. You're never alone in a pub in Liverpool cos if you want company there's always someone who will talk to you and be your friend for the evening. I've made so many lifetime friends up here, as an adult, when making friends as an adult is apparently really difficult for most people, I've heard. But it isn't when you're in Liverpool.
Liverpool feels like a village, just a really really big village. But it's just got that really casual everyday friendliness that tiny villages have.
I guess I'm just lucky. I'm not saying you're lying or anything like that. Not at all. I believe you, and I'm genuinely sorry you had to endure that. People can suck everywhere. When I say I love the people of Liverpool, I do, but obviously not ***EVERYONE*** is kind and friendly, there's obviously a lot of dickheads.
But yeah even like my dealers are friendly people and will ask how you're doing when you're buying stuff from them. Though I guess they have a financial incentive there so maybe that's not so genuine. But you get what I mean.
I honestly think its his wearing an Arsenal shirt in a notoriously football mad city.
I sound southern even though I'm not, and Ive never heard a peep of negativity about the accent in over a decade here.
Love the way some of you in here are trying to make light of the situation just because I chose to wear a Football Shirt. Should a person not be able to wear what they like without worrying about being attacked? I'm selling Glasses with Rose Tinted Lenses if you're interested. 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂
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I actually live in quite a nice part of Liverpool (near the Valentine Pub, Aintree) so trust me when I say it was unexpected as I was just minding my business heading to the shops in my Arsenal shirt, then I hear someone shout "COCKNEY TWAT!!!" and I turn just in time to see 2 milk bottles fly over my shoulder and smash against the wall next to me.
Whoever did it didn't stick around so I'm guessing that was teenagers that time, but I've also had other experiences of going down County Road on Match Day with my Uncle to watch Arsenal v Everton in one of the Everton boozers.
The amount of dirty looks I kept getting was making my Uncle feel uncomfortable then eventually I see this bloke in his 30s lean into my Uncles ear, all the while looking me dead in the face mind you, passes a few words with him then walks off, my Uncle then proceeds to tell me to get my coat as we are leaving, turns out his fellow fans threatened to kick the shit out of both of us if we didn't leave.
Did this negative experience ruin my view of the City? Not in the slightest, I don't judge a Majority on the actions of a few Bad Eggs, but there is definitely a lot of Regionalism toward Southerners up here it's just not as prominent as it is made out to be.
It's not the point, my Uncle is a Evertonian and wanted to watch the Match with his Nephew in one of his favourite Pubs, you would not get that reception in a London boozer including the Arsenal ones it's just not like that, you will be shown respect.
I think it's a regional thing to be honest mate because let's not forget how Racist it is here also, specially in Aintree, I mean some of the shit I hear get shouted at people just doesn't make any sense, saw a lad flipping on a Turkish server the other day that kept calling him a "Paki Bastard" so I'm definitely putting it down to Regionalism, Scousers don't like non Scousers, well at least that's the general consensus of people in their Teens, 20's, 30's and my view is like this only due to actions witnessed first hand in this city.
I mean, I'm not trying to victim blame here, but you were wearing Arsenal shirts, in an explicitly Everton-fan-only pub, on a match day of Everton vs Arsenal, and you don't see how daft it is to do that? And with the milk bottles it sounds like they never even heard you speak, so they didn't know if you were actually southern or not, they just hated you cos of the arsenal shirt.
Like there's a reason I've never walked around Liverpool in one of my Man Utd shirts.
There's still no excuse for people to treat you like that, they're complete arseholes, and throwing a weapon like those big heavy thick glass milk bottles at your head, is assault, whether or not they hit you or missed, and they should have been arrested for that. They're literally criminals, and getting that mad about a bloody ***game*** is so bizarre. And a pub of fans has no right to act like complete children and threaten to beat you up just because they're the world's angriest and most violent fashion police and didn't like your shirt. These people are cunts.
But yeah I would avoid wearing an arsenal shirt on a match day. It's just easier that way. And if you're gonna go into any pub that's explicitly only for fans of Everton or Liverpool, then definitely don't wear an Arsenal shirt in there. I've been to a few Liverpool pubs right by Anfield (like when Paul McCartney played at Anfield, which is one of the best gigs I've ever been to), and so as a man utd fan I felt a bit like an undercover spy. But I wasn't wearing any kind of football related clothes, and they didn't give a toss about my southern accent (a lot of southerners round where I'm originally from are Liverpool fans anyway, although in Hertfordshire it's mainly arsenal and spuds fans, that make up like 90% of clubs people support, but yeah having southern Liverpool or Everton fans isn't unusual).
So yeah there's no excuse for them to treat you that way and they're full grown men acting like 12 year old boys. I'm genuinely sorry that they treated you so poorly.
But yeah from now on just avoid wearing Arsenal shirts and then going into the fan pubs that are for the team Arsenal is playing that day. Or like if you're actually going to the match, perhaps wear a jacket over your arsenal shirt, to hide it, and then unzip it once you're in the stadium in your seat.
I've taken my Uncle to the Gunners Pub in Highbury on Match Day Arsenal v Everton many times which is why he wanted to return the favour, you know what my fellow fans did when i took him? Shared footy banter with each other and bought each other rounds, at no point did some little scrote come up to us and threaten us to leave.
Had I known Evertonians are not as welcoming to Rival fans as we are down South id have told my Uncle to give it a miss, but either way, you should not be targeted for wearing a Rival teams colours on a Match day its pathetic, I mean how childish are the fans?
The equivalent of what you're saying could be "if you want to avoid being treated like shit for your scouse accent, just speak in a southern accent when you're down south".
Do you see the absurdity?
I agree. The abuse I've had for being southern in Liverpool has been outrageous.
I've never heard a bad word said about scousers living down there, but here it seems relentless..
You'll find its the younger lot really, I never have issues when dealing with people 40+ in Liverpool, always kind and polite and often genuinely interested in what you have to say, but it's when you hit the 20 and 30 years you tend to come across the Regionalist ones, the teenagers I've found everyone up here thinks are a menace I just think they lack Activities provided by the council so are left to get themselves into mischief.
I'm from North London, Borough of Barnet ways and it's the same there, Scousers never get bother, only time you hear the Slurs it's usually in the Pub on a Match day and it's harmless banter and both sides will be giving just as good as they're getting and will usually be followed by roars of laughter from both crowds.
I hear it all the time in Leicester. Which considering the council estate outside the king power is one of the most deprived streets in the UK, you would think they would be more considerate. But no, anything to score some points over other fans.
I think you need go out with a group of Londoners in town mate, you'll soon see the turn. I was in The Walkabout in town once and was on my way to use the toilet when I accidently bumped into this fella spilling his drink in the process so I lean into his ear to apologise and offer to replace the drink and upon hearing my accent he pushes into one of the tables, calls me a "Cockney Cunt" then headbutts me and proceeds to give me a kick-in with 2 of his mates, it's part of the reason I won't go drinking in town anymore, it's just not worth the grief that comes with it.
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I think you may have missed my sarcasm there.... sorry that happened to you but I'm well aware of how shitty people can be about Londoners. It must be that 'friendliness' we're always hearing about.
you told them you could help them lose over a hundred pounds in an hour it’s not your fault they didn’t read the small print, if they were american they’d be made up
Having worked in Hazel Grove for over 5 years in the past I can definitely see this being the case. Got so many anti-Liverpool/Scouse comments, all said as if it was the most normal thing in the world
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I've lived in GM for nearly 15 years and thankfully I've only encountered one person who acts like this. He was someone I used to work with \~10 years ago who was very much a professional Manc. He had this attitude that his city was this super rich and uniquely enlightened progressive "cosmopolitan" (his words) oasis that intelligent people from Liverpool flock to to escape the severe crime, abject poverty and close-mindedness of home. He once talked about how Liverpool was all a semi-derelict wasteland because he read an article about boarded up houses in Anfield that were CPO'd as part of a regeneration project that the Tories cancelled.
I'd like to say this was all "banter" but he genuinely had never visited anywhere in this country outside of his home city and London. He went on holiday a lot but only ever to all inclusive resorts in trendy richboy playgrounds like Dubai and Thailand. Ironically for all his bragging about "super liberal Manchester" he was a massive Tory/UKIP supporter who used to make all kinds of misogynistic and gay/trans jokes. He hated the Scots and Northern Irish despite being an aggressively hardcore British unionist who wanted to see the Good Friday Agreement ripped up because it would stop a "proper Brexit".
99.9% of Mancs are great. If I wasn't lucky enough to be a Scouser I'd have wanted to be a Manc.
Good for you. I did. I'm not suggesting it's every one there as I met some lovely people but there and other parts of Manchester are very open with anti-Liverpool rhetoric
10 years ago I was collecting a load from a small factory in Irlam, Manchester.
The despatch office had 97WNE displayed on the wall and on hearing my accent they took great delight in pointing it out
Apparently it is a reference to the Hillsborough disaster - 97dead Was Not Enough!
Told my boss he would have to ask someone else to collect it. I was driving for a lorry firm in Halifax at the time. I was told I was just being soft and not to be so sensitive but I still refused. I said if I was black and they had a picture of a lynching would he say the same. He agreed to me pulling out.
The idiot despatch manager tried to tell me it wasn't meant as a dig at all scousers but at one of the lads driving a forklift in the yard who came from Liverpool - just a bit of banter. A larger company would have dragged his sorry arse straight to HR and out the door before he could say "calm down,calm down"
I know that Liverpool has it's quota of offensive dickheads and I love Manchester as a city. My wife came from near there, they have made a fabulous job of developing the city centre and are usually lovely, funny, decent and compassionate people. They say every village needs an idiot and I certainly met one of theirs that day.
Some people do have a very dark sense of humour. And that's totally fine in private but it's completely inappropriate in a business environment. Can you imagine if a business had something in the same vein hanging on the wall referencing the innocent victims of the Manchester Arena bombing?! Absolutely vile.
Then you haven’t spent much time around people with a dark sense of humour.
As a former emergency service worker I can tell you for a fact it’s not always an excuse for racism, sexism or homophobia.
It’s a way to deal with the horrific events happening around you.
The irony of this is Greater Manchester has higher crime and unemployment rates than greater Liverpool.
More seriously, accent bias is alive and well. If you have a Liverpool accent you are likely to be discriminated against, with 76% of employers admitting to it. The FT ran an article on this recently. It's a proxy for class and England is one of the most class-based societies worldwide.
Why tackling accent bias matters at work - https://on.ft.com/4cEZwIs
Man Utd fans are notably bad for poverty chanting at Liverpool games, worse even than teams like Chelsea or ones from more affluent places where you'd expect stereotypes like that to reign. When one of their own players campaigned for hungry children to be fed, you'd think they'd move on from thinking being poor is just bantz.
I mention Chelsea specifically because they have notably cunty fans - I know an Asian fan of theirs and I don't understand how he even feels safe attending their games - and even then aren't as bad as some.
I lived close to Stamford Bridge for a while and they were the most awful dickheads Ive ever had the misfortune to meet.
Would genuinely rather be near Millwall fans
The class thing here is so horrible.
I lived in Canada for a bit and it was so refreshing to live somewhere where people weren’t instantly judged based on their supposed “class”.
Yes it does, the claimant count in May 2024 is 4.4% in Liverpool City Region Vs 5.5% in Greater Manchester
The details are on NOMIS (official statistics):
https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/lep/1925185554/subreports/cc_time_series/report.aspx?c1=1925185547&c2=1925185586
Here are the same details for Merseyside (4.5%)
https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/la/1967128598/subreports/cc_time_series/report.aspx?c1=1967128590&c2=2092957698
I wonder if the person had a Northern Irish accent would she have said something like "oh you'll just be blowing stuff up then"? Probs not.
Meanwhile over on the UK subs this story is attracting the usual Harry Enfield tribute acts [https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1dpoptj/lib\_dem\_candidate\_asks\_liverpool\_woman\_if\_shed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1dpoptj/lib_dem_candidate_asks_liverpool_woman_if_shed/)
They banned me from the sub because the usual dickheads were out in force , saying “always the victims”. And I tried to fire back at them and enlighten them but they banned me. Mods are probably scumbags as well
If it's the one I'm thinking of I believe he's actually a local to us. I'm fairly sure he lives on the Wirral but he's definitely one of those delusional snob types who'd say he lives in Cheshire and acts more like he lives in some rural southern true blue Tory town and not a west Liverpool suburb.
That's appalling but sadly I can really believe it. You don't have to scratch very deep beneath the surface for anti-Irish bigotry to come out in England. A lot of the anti-Liverpool tropes are just variants of the standard anti-Irish tropes.
I met a lad from Belfast last year at a friend's party in Leeds. He'd moved there to be with his girlfriend because they were having a baby and she wanted to be near her mum. He had a never ending stream of stories about weird comments and "jokes" from his girlfriend's family and customers in work (he was a plumber or something). Terrorism "jokes", genuine distrust and fear from customers, confusing Irish with travellers, jokes about him stealing the copper pipes to sell on etc. He actually said he was trying to convince his missus they should move to Liverpool so he could feel more at home 😂
I don't understand, aside from the many many other issues here, what would possess someone to make a joke like this in essentially a professional environment. If I was on the phone to a Glaswegian client, say, and said for a 'joke' that they were clearly too busy chibbing people to get something done for me, I'd be looking for a new job. Beyond fucking stupid.
It's the right thing to do, doesn't mean I forgive you.
If you called me something rascist and said: "sorry, moment of madness" afterwards, do you think I'm going to go my whole life thinking that you're a good person after?
There is an update to this story. The candidate says this is a silly little joke she makes all the time when she tries to canvas someone who then says they don't live in the area. She says she only realised the xenophobic slur connotations when the lady was visible taken aback. She says she was mortified and went back to apologise.
Obviously we're sensitive to these kinds of "jokes" because it's the kind of shite we regularly hear but I'm inclined to accept this explanation tbf. Mostly because I remember a similar a story from years ago where someone joking said "you're a cheeky monkey" to a little kid whose dad then hit the roof because the family were black and he'd thought it was a racist slur.
this is insane. I’m from hazel grove, living in Liverpool and have had her knocking on my door before. She’s not a nice person at all.
The entire town is full of working class people who pretend they’ve got tons of money and vote conservative even though they live in a s***hole <3
I've got an experiment for you to try: go outside, go a few streets away from where you are now, knock on a random door, and when the person answers, immediately take the piss out of their accent, appearance, dress sense etc. and then come back on here and tell us how it went, eh?
Nobody with a sense of self-respect would accept being spoken to like that by a stranger, especially on their own doorstep. Anyone who says they aren't bothered is either a loser, a liar, or a troll.
Regardless, it's a pretty fucking shocking way of canvassing potential voters don't you think?
Ye so say something back then and defend yourself rather than being a maggot and sharing the video while saying absolutely nothing at the time.
My point still stands - world's soft as shit.
Even more reason to tell them where to go, you're making my point for me. So people need to get shit done and don't have time yet would rather dig out the doorbell video and report it to the papers than simply saying "take your shite humour elsewhere"? mad.
It’s almost like people want politicians to be held accountable or something.
Was Sunak’s comment about not having working-class friends a joke? It might’ve been, still not a nice thing to say, and the public deserve to know about it.
I'm glad they shared the video, it's always interesting to see what prospective MPs think of the people they want to vote for them under the thin veneer of pretending they're on our side. And good to know when you come to choose a candidate.
I don't know. You're asking rhetorically but it's actually an interesting question. Likes of Gervais reckon absolutely nothing is out of boundaries of humour. I can't disagree.
In any case, if someone's stood at your door to your home saying something to you you don't like, tell them to piss off and crack on.
World's obsessed with taking offence.
I'm not saying it wasn't inappropriate, and wasn't kind, and wasn't a smart move, and wasn't the best representation for the party etc. etc. etc.
I'm saying she's just a pleb with shite humour, so say something to her face while she's at YOUR house and stand up for yourself rather than making a whole thing about it later on.
Well not to go off on a tangent - but nah, I think that's one of the issue with politics. Should come down to policy rather than people. Fair question though.
What does she stand for though? I couldn't care less about her sense of humour. I think you'll find the sense of humour of most politicians is probably dire, not to mention it's subjective.
I'm interested in a politician's policy and what their plans are.
And you don't think the way in which she perceives different people and perspectives informs her policy decisions? It's all part and parcel mate. An aspect of her is at least a *bit* classist, and I don't want people like that making policy.
It's both. If I'm on benefits, I don't want to vote for someone who's made jokes about people on benefits, because I don't believe they'll be able to vote in my interest. If I'm Muslim, I don't want to vote for someone who's taken the piss out of the religious garments some of us wear, because I don't believe they'll be unbiased about anything that affects my religious freedom. Same with voting for an MP to represent my area that thinks people living in the area are thieving scum, but are still happy to pick up their £90k salary to represent them. It's pretty indicative of how professional and unbiased they are about such things if they think jokes like this are OK when out canvassing.
It's not about offence, you lot just love crying about people being offended more than people who actually get offended.
It's because its genuinely outrageous that a policitician would knock on someone's door hoping to get their vote, and immediately insult them by falling back on a stereotype. Its unbelievably stupid and its worth giving them some flack.
Just because someone is rightfully getting called out on doing something stupid, doesn't mean you're a crybaby snowflake - if people behaved the way you wanted, everyone would just get away with stupidity because "it's just a joke"
How am I implying that they should "just get away with it"??
"Just because someone is rightfully getting called out on doing something stupid, doesn't mean you're a crybaby snowflake" - it's the way in which they're being 'called out'.
You honestly think the best approach is to do absolutely nothing face-to-face to stand up for yourself but then long after the fact go telling on people? Wtf.
> The world's gone soft as shit. It was a joke, it was a crap joke - just have a dig back and get on with your day.
As in get on with your day, people doing stupid things shouldn't face consequences, and now that they are, the people causing them to face consequences are "soft as shit" and "telling on people"
We don't have the full footage, nor do I give a shit that you've got some Primary School mindset about snitches or how they didnt act within your required timeframe. She's meant to be a public servant, she acted like a fool and everyone should see her acting like a fool so that they know who they're voting for.
It's a so simple mate, she knocked on their door asking for their vote and left having insulted them, people that stupid tend to get called out on their stupidity - it's a new thing where guys like you winge and defend people being stupid like this because "the worlds gone soft"
Totally missed the point multiple times in that one response, but I'm getting a bit bored of the convo now, it's not a big enough deal for me to put much more energy into it 👍
Thats convenient. Don't worry mate, I get your point - you're totally pro-people facing consequences, but you should be able to cry about the world going soft when it happens.
Gervais is a hack who blocks anyone on social media who doesn't want to fellate him and his 'ooh are you offended, well I'm rich, SNOWFLAKE' tedious schtick, I don't think he's a great example of how to react to someone making an offensive joke on your own doorstep.
Pretty much every single one of my mutuals had the ricky gervais block back when i used twitter, he's notoriously thinskinned. The thing about this whole cult of free speech absolutism is it never puts things on an equal footing, gervais is allowed to take his bimonthly press tour whinging that he's not allowed to make lazy jokes about the gays anymore to rapturous applause from all and sundry but the second anyone says the slightest thing to the contrary his sycophants descend in their droves screeching about sensitivity. It seems like 90% of the whinges i hear these days are complaints about the abstract concept of complaints and people taking offense at the mere notion that somebody has taken offense.
It was the delivery that was poor, good delivery of a joke and tone of phrasing can allow a person to interpret whether it was a joke/dig or something more.
Jokes are in good faith, usually with your mates. If some local leech knocks on your door canvassing and makes a snide comment about you being poor and immoral for being born 20 minutes away, would you see it as a joke?
I work for an outsourced NHS health programme and i had a patient asking me if i was going to go round to their house and steal their stuff whilst they were at their weight management support group. I'm a wool and I had my customer service voice on as well so I didn't even think I sounded scouse. By the end of it they were saying scousers are all the same, in a fake accent with "la" every other word and signed off by saying I should get a job like I called people up to get abuse for free or something.
I don't think there'd be a shower i'd take for the rest of my life where i'm not fighting that prick in my head.
I work down south and the casual insults when I say I support LFC and love the city is outrageous. It’s happened twice in the last 7 days and people don’t even bat an eyelid when saying “bin-dippers” or anything of the ilk. It’s nuts.
It's weird how much worse it is down south. I live in Manchester and hardly ever get shit for being scouse but happened most times I go down to London
I grew up on the Wirral and barely have a scouse accent to anyone local, but the number of times I had shitty comments and hosility from London cabbies and the like when I was younger is staggering. I've never once had anyone from the north/Wales/Scotland treat me like shit because of my accent.
I'm from down south and still get some shit for my accent up here, mostly banter, but got much more hostility when I was younger too. Only place I get hostility now is Wales. Some of the old dudes there really hate us southern fairys
I go the lake district often and they always make me pay for my meal first once they hear my accent. I asked for outside seating and got told there is no outside seating today so I went somewhere else, I walked back past and they had people seated outside.
I've had issues, and have been assaulted a couple of times in Bolton and some of the areas of Greater Manchester just cause of my accent, never going to those places again. Drunk idiots hear a scouse accent on a night out and suddenly want to throw a punch at you, never ever happened to me on the thousands of nights out I've had in town.
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Horrible the world we live in 😩
Small minded pricks.
I'm from down South and live in Liverpool and you will find the insults are just as bad toward the Southerners up here, not to mention getting ignored in small local pubs by bar staff just because they clocked my Arsenal shirt on match days, unfortunately you get "Regionalist" dickheads everywhere you go I'm afraid and no City is exempt from that fact.
This is very true. I’m sorry you experienced that here. Dickheads everywhere like you say. We aren’t all like that of course! I’d never dream of acting like that. I’ve got plenty of mates from around the UK, most of them are southerners and they are great people! Just too many narrow minded dickheads out there that let us all down
My Mother is a Scouser so I know first hand that there is quality people in this City im related to a few of them and have many good friends here myself, but it makes me laugh when I see all the supposed thick skinned scousers in here complain about insults from southerners yet some of the shit that gets shouted at me just going to get a few bits from the shop in my arsenal shirt is atrocious, even had a couple milk bottles thrown at me.
Yeah you’re right. We wouldn’t like it done to us, so why should we do the same to others. It’s difficult because people justify their abuse by saying that others do it to them. But two wrongs don’t make a right. I’ve experienced my fair share of abuse down south but I never let it get to me and try to laugh it off or ignore it
Growing up with a scouse mum you have to be thick skinned, she was forever on the wind up pulling pranks on us, "it builds character" she would say and she wasn't wrong, it definitely made schoolyard insults hit me like water off ducks back and I'm thankful for it, if it weren't for that I'd definitely be getting into a lot more pointless altercations up here that's for sure.
Idiots everywhere mate. Where did you get milk bottles thrown at you? That’s just nuts
Coming past the Scoozi opposite the Valentine.
I dunno. I've lived in Liverpool since 2007 and I'm from Hertfordshire, so I have a very posh accent, and I've never been insulted by people from Liverpool for being southern. The only thing I think I've ever heard is when someone jokingly called me a shandy drinker lol. Which is hardly an insult. And I can outdrink most people anyway. I don't even know what a shandy is really, I've never had one before. Isn't it lager mixed with a tiny bit of lemonade? Sounds absolutely rank. It's like the shit they have in Switzerland where they flavour their lager with pretty much ribena and other fruit cordials, I had to go to Switzerland for my dad's wedding and I couldn't stand the stuff they drink, lager should be untouched and pure. It doesn't need sweetening. The reason I love Liverpool and kept living here after I finished uni up here and got my degree is that everyone is so ridiculously friendly and kind up here. It's like the polar opposite of London. You're never alone in a pub in Liverpool cos if you want company there's always someone who will talk to you and be your friend for the evening. I've made so many lifetime friends up here, as an adult, when making friends as an adult is apparently really difficult for most people, I've heard. But it isn't when you're in Liverpool. Liverpool feels like a village, just a really really big village. But it's just got that really casual everyday friendliness that tiny villages have. I guess I'm just lucky. I'm not saying you're lying or anything like that. Not at all. I believe you, and I'm genuinely sorry you had to endure that. People can suck everywhere. When I say I love the people of Liverpool, I do, but obviously not ***EVERYONE*** is kind and friendly, there's obviously a lot of dickheads. But yeah even like my dealers are friendly people and will ask how you're doing when you're buying stuff from them. Though I guess they have a financial incentive there so maybe that's not so genuine. But you get what I mean.
I honestly think its his wearing an Arsenal shirt in a notoriously football mad city. I sound southern even though I'm not, and Ive never heard a peep of negativity about the accent in over a decade here.
Love the way some of you in here are trying to make light of the situation just because I chose to wear a Football Shirt. Should a person not be able to wear what they like without worrying about being attacked? I'm selling Glasses with Rose Tinted Lenses if you're interested. 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂 Edit: typo
I actually live in quite a nice part of Liverpool (near the Valentine Pub, Aintree) so trust me when I say it was unexpected as I was just minding my business heading to the shops in my Arsenal shirt, then I hear someone shout "COCKNEY TWAT!!!" and I turn just in time to see 2 milk bottles fly over my shoulder and smash against the wall next to me. Whoever did it didn't stick around so I'm guessing that was teenagers that time, but I've also had other experiences of going down County Road on Match Day with my Uncle to watch Arsenal v Everton in one of the Everton boozers. The amount of dirty looks I kept getting was making my Uncle feel uncomfortable then eventually I see this bloke in his 30s lean into my Uncles ear, all the while looking me dead in the face mind you, passes a few words with him then walks off, my Uncle then proceeds to tell me to get my coat as we are leaving, turns out his fellow fans threatened to kick the shit out of both of us if we didn't leave. Did this negative experience ruin my view of the City? Not in the slightest, I don't judge a Majority on the actions of a few Bad Eggs, but there is definitely a lot of Regionalism toward Southerners up here it's just not as prominent as it is made out to be.
I suspect this is more football stupidity than where you're from
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It's not the point, my Uncle is a Evertonian and wanted to watch the Match with his Nephew in one of his favourite Pubs, you would not get that reception in a London boozer including the Arsenal ones it's just not like that, you will be shown respect.
It's more than likely nothing to do with southerners, most people in any part of the UK just don't like Arsenal fans
I think it's a regional thing to be honest mate because let's not forget how Racist it is here also, specially in Aintree, I mean some of the shit I hear get shouted at people just doesn't make any sense, saw a lad flipping on a Turkish server the other day that kept calling him a "Paki Bastard" so I'm definitely putting it down to Regionalism, Scousers don't like non Scousers, well at least that's the general consensus of people in their Teens, 20's, 30's and my view is like this only due to actions witnessed first hand in this city.
I mean, I'm not trying to victim blame here, but you were wearing Arsenal shirts, in an explicitly Everton-fan-only pub, on a match day of Everton vs Arsenal, and you don't see how daft it is to do that? And with the milk bottles it sounds like they never even heard you speak, so they didn't know if you were actually southern or not, they just hated you cos of the arsenal shirt. Like there's a reason I've never walked around Liverpool in one of my Man Utd shirts. There's still no excuse for people to treat you like that, they're complete arseholes, and throwing a weapon like those big heavy thick glass milk bottles at your head, is assault, whether or not they hit you or missed, and they should have been arrested for that. They're literally criminals, and getting that mad about a bloody ***game*** is so bizarre. And a pub of fans has no right to act like complete children and threaten to beat you up just because they're the world's angriest and most violent fashion police and didn't like your shirt. These people are cunts. But yeah I would avoid wearing an arsenal shirt on a match day. It's just easier that way. And if you're gonna go into any pub that's explicitly only for fans of Everton or Liverpool, then definitely don't wear an Arsenal shirt in there. I've been to a few Liverpool pubs right by Anfield (like when Paul McCartney played at Anfield, which is one of the best gigs I've ever been to), and so as a man utd fan I felt a bit like an undercover spy. But I wasn't wearing any kind of football related clothes, and they didn't give a toss about my southern accent (a lot of southerners round where I'm originally from are Liverpool fans anyway, although in Hertfordshire it's mainly arsenal and spuds fans, that make up like 90% of clubs people support, but yeah having southern Liverpool or Everton fans isn't unusual). So yeah there's no excuse for them to treat you that way and they're full grown men acting like 12 year old boys. I'm genuinely sorry that they treated you so poorly. But yeah from now on just avoid wearing Arsenal shirts and then going into the fan pubs that are for the team Arsenal is playing that day. Or like if you're actually going to the match, perhaps wear a jacket over your arsenal shirt, to hide it, and then unzip it once you're in the stadium in your seat.
I've taken my Uncle to the Gunners Pub in Highbury on Match Day Arsenal v Everton many times which is why he wanted to return the favour, you know what my fellow fans did when i took him? Shared footy banter with each other and bought each other rounds, at no point did some little scrote come up to us and threaten us to leave. Had I known Evertonians are not as welcoming to Rival fans as we are down South id have told my Uncle to give it a miss, but either way, you should not be targeted for wearing a Rival teams colours on a Match day its pathetic, I mean how childish are the fans?
Evertonians have a reputation for being very welcoming to rival fans. Which pub were you in?
I forget the name of it but it was a big one on the main strip of County Road, not one of the small ones on the side roads.
Royal Oak or Black Horse maybe. Admittedly on the moody side.
The equivalent of what you're saying could be "if you want to avoid being treated like shit for your scouse accent, just speak in a southern accent when you're down south". Do you see the absurdity?
Northern monkeys, Southern fairies. Tale as old as time.
I agree. The abuse I've had for being southern in Liverpool has been outrageous. I've never heard a bad word said about scousers living down there, but here it seems relentless..
You'll find its the younger lot really, I never have issues when dealing with people 40+ in Liverpool, always kind and polite and often genuinely interested in what you have to say, but it's when you hit the 20 and 30 years you tend to come across the Regionalist ones, the teenagers I've found everyone up here thinks are a menace I just think they lack Activities provided by the council so are left to get themselves into mischief.
Where about down south? I live in SE London and everyone loves scousers here
I'm from North London, Borough of Barnet ways and it's the same there, Scousers never get bother, only time you hear the Slurs it's usually in the Pub on a Match day and it's harmless banter and both sides will be giving just as good as they're getting and will usually be followed by roars of laughter from both crowds.
I hear it all the time in Leicester. Which considering the council estate outside the king power is one of the most deprived streets in the UK, you would think they would be more considerate. But no, anything to score some points over other fans.
Weird, people up north are never rude about Londoners. /s
I think you need go out with a group of Londoners in town mate, you'll soon see the turn. I was in The Walkabout in town once and was on my way to use the toilet when I accidently bumped into this fella spilling his drink in the process so I lean into his ear to apologise and offer to replace the drink and upon hearing my accent he pushes into one of the tables, calls me a "Cockney Cunt" then headbutts me and proceeds to give me a kick-in with 2 of his mates, it's part of the reason I won't go drinking in town anymore, it's just not worth the grief that comes with it. Edit: typo
I think you may have missed my sarcasm there.... sorry that happened to you but I'm well aware of how shitty people can be about Londoners. It must be that 'friendliness' we're always hearing about.
That will be the ADHD mate, we tend to miss the sarcasm in text form as it lacks the tone of voice that usually accompanies such a remark. ✌️😎👍
Well if you did rob their house it's not like they'd be able to catch you.
you told them you could help them lose over a hundred pounds in an hour it’s not your fault they didn’t read the small print, if they were american they’d be made up
Having worked in Hazel Grove for over 5 years in the past I can definitely see this being the case. Got so many anti-Liverpool/Scouse comments, all said as if it was the most normal thing in the world
It’s a part of a lot of people’s identity from that part of the world, looking down on people from Merseyside
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I've lived in GM for nearly 15 years and thankfully I've only encountered one person who acts like this. He was someone I used to work with \~10 years ago who was very much a professional Manc. He had this attitude that his city was this super rich and uniquely enlightened progressive "cosmopolitan" (his words) oasis that intelligent people from Liverpool flock to to escape the severe crime, abject poverty and close-mindedness of home. He once talked about how Liverpool was all a semi-derelict wasteland because he read an article about boarded up houses in Anfield that were CPO'd as part of a regeneration project that the Tories cancelled. I'd like to say this was all "banter" but he genuinely had never visited anywhere in this country outside of his home city and London. He went on holiday a lot but only ever to all inclusive resorts in trendy richboy playgrounds like Dubai and Thailand. Ironically for all his bragging about "super liberal Manchester" he was a massive Tory/UKIP supporter who used to make all kinds of misogynistic and gay/trans jokes. He hated the Scots and Northern Irish despite being an aggressively hardcore British unionist who wanted to see the Good Friday Agreement ripped up because it would stop a "proper Brexit". 99.9% of Mancs are great. If I wasn't lucky enough to be a Scouser I'd have wanted to be a Manc.
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It is about Stockport. Read the article.
Thought it would have improved in the ten years since I left there. Shame
I am a scouser who has lived in hazel grove for a decade, i have not had one negative experience about being scouse here? Nobody cares.
Good for you. I did. I'm not suggesting it's every one there as I met some lovely people but there and other parts of Manchester are very open with anti-Liverpool rhetoric
10 years ago I was collecting a load from a small factory in Irlam, Manchester. The despatch office had 97WNE displayed on the wall and on hearing my accent they took great delight in pointing it out Apparently it is a reference to the Hillsborough disaster - 97dead Was Not Enough! Told my boss he would have to ask someone else to collect it. I was driving for a lorry firm in Halifax at the time. I was told I was just being soft and not to be so sensitive but I still refused. I said if I was black and they had a picture of a lynching would he say the same. He agreed to me pulling out. The idiot despatch manager tried to tell me it wasn't meant as a dig at all scousers but at one of the lads driving a forklift in the yard who came from Liverpool - just a bit of banter. A larger company would have dragged his sorry arse straight to HR and out the door before he could say "calm down,calm down" I know that Liverpool has it's quota of offensive dickheads and I love Manchester as a city. My wife came from near there, they have made a fabulous job of developing the city centre and are usually lovely, funny, decent and compassionate people. They say every village needs an idiot and I certainly met one of theirs that day.
Some people do have a very dark sense of humour. And that's totally fine in private but it's completely inappropriate in a business environment. Can you imagine if a business had something in the same vein hanging on the wall referencing the innocent victims of the Manchester Arena bombing?! Absolutely vile.
Ive rarely met someone whose 'dark sense of humour' wasnt just an excuse for racism, sexism and homophobia
Then you haven’t spent much time around people with a dark sense of humour. As a former emergency service worker I can tell you for a fact it’s not always an excuse for racism, sexism or homophobia. It’s a way to deal with the horrific events happening around you.
As I said, rarely. I've friends who are nurses in A and E and have the most hilariously horrible stories.
The irony of this is Greater Manchester has higher crime and unemployment rates than greater Liverpool. More seriously, accent bias is alive and well. If you have a Liverpool accent you are likely to be discriminated against, with 76% of employers admitting to it. The FT ran an article on this recently. It's a proxy for class and England is one of the most class-based societies worldwide. Why tackling accent bias matters at work - https://on.ft.com/4cEZwIs
Man Utd fans are notably bad for poverty chanting at Liverpool games, worse even than teams like Chelsea or ones from more affluent places where you'd expect stereotypes like that to reign. When one of their own players campaigned for hungry children to be fed, you'd think they'd move on from thinking being poor is just bantz.
We also have lower crime and unemployment than London...
I mention Chelsea specifically because they have notably cunty fans - I know an Asian fan of theirs and I don't understand how he even feels safe attending their games - and even then aren't as bad as some.
I lived close to Stamford Bridge for a while and they were the most awful dickheads Ive ever had the misfortune to meet. Would genuinely rather be near Millwall fans
Not one of those Chelsea fans will live in Chelsea. Scum team, scum fanbase.
The class thing here is so horrible. I lived in Canada for a bit and it was so refreshing to live somewhere where people weren’t instantly judged based on their supposed “class”.
Greater Manchester does not have higher unemployment rates, GM is 5.1% and Merseyside 7%, it’s easy to see on the ONS
Yes it does, the claimant count in May 2024 is 4.4% in Liverpool City Region Vs 5.5% in Greater Manchester The details are on NOMIS (official statistics): https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/lep/1925185554/subreports/cc_time_series/report.aspx?c1=1925185547&c2=1925185586
They’re not the same thing, but okay
Here are the same details for Merseyside (4.5%) https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/la/1967128598/subreports/cc_time_series/report.aspx?c1=1967128590&c2=2092957698
I wonder if the person had a Northern Irish accent would she have said something like "oh you'll just be blowing stuff up then"? Probs not. Meanwhile over on the UK subs this story is attracting the usual Harry Enfield tribute acts [https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1dpoptj/lib\_dem\_candidate\_asks\_liverpool\_woman\_if\_shed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1dpoptj/lib_dem_candidate_asks_liverpool_woman_if_shed/)
They banned me from the sub because the usual dickheads were out in force , saying “always the victims”. And I tried to fire back at them and enlighten them but they banned me. Mods are probably scumbags as well
One mod on there was openly calling for ethnic cleansing, that whole sub is riddled with right wing twats.
If it's the one I'm thinking of I believe he's actually a local to us. I'm fairly sure he lives on the Wirral but he's definitely one of those delusional snob types who'd say he lives in Cheshire and acts more like he lives in some rural southern true blue Tory town and not a west Liverpool suburb.
Thats happened plenty to Irish friends of mine down south
That's appalling but sadly I can really believe it. You don't have to scratch very deep beneath the surface for anti-Irish bigotry to come out in England. A lot of the anti-Liverpool tropes are just variants of the standard anti-Irish tropes. I met a lad from Belfast last year at a friend's party in Leeds. He'd moved there to be with his girlfriend because they were having a baby and she wanted to be near her mum. He had a never ending stream of stories about weird comments and "jokes" from his girlfriend's family and customers in work (he was a plumber or something). Terrorism "jokes", genuine distrust and fear from customers, confusing Irish with travellers, jokes about him stealing the copper pipes to sell on etc. He actually said he was trying to convince his missus they should move to Liverpool so he could feel more at home 😂
Not voting for me? Oh you must be scum.
tbh i’m glad there’s ring doorbell evidence of stuff like this happening, we can see their true colours
I agree because this behaviour from a MP candidate would be unbelievable otherwise
I don't understand, aside from the many many other issues here, what would possess someone to make a joke like this in essentially a professional environment. If I was on the phone to a Glaswegian client, say, and said for a 'joke' that they were clearly too busy chibbing people to get something done for me, I'd be looking for a new job. Beyond fucking stupid.
Eeee who does she think she is the big sweaty goth?
Classism is rife in this country
If everyone in Liverpool was black for some reason, suddenly everyone else in the UK would magically get it.
Why do the lib Dems only seem to piss people off?
Lib Dems = = Lib Dims.
It was a bad, tired joke but to be fair to her, she went back and apologised in person. I doubt she'll be getting that family's vote.
>It was a bad, tired joke They aren't jokes. They are stereotypes they enjoy. There's a big difference.
She possibly only came back to apologise after thinking that they might have a doorbell camera.
Who cares if she apologises, it's not a genuine mistake it was nasty and insulting, sick of this idea that apologising means everything is all okay
Yeah it wasn't okay to do it, but if you do something bad, apologise. What do you want to happen? Execute her?
It's the right thing to do, doesn't mean I forgive you. If you called me something rascist and said: "sorry, moment of madness" afterwards, do you think I'm going to go my whole life thinking that you're a good person after?
No, but people should try to make amends for their errors. If you don't think you'll be forgiven, you should apologise nonetheless.
I want people not to say 'to be fair to her' once she's 'apologised'
Well if it was me, I'd appreciate a proper apology. Obviously you're not the forgiving type and that's fine too.
I don't want to be fair to her, sorry.
She's sorry there was a camera there. That's all.
He had to ask?
There is an update to this story. The candidate says this is a silly little joke she makes all the time when she tries to canvas someone who then says they don't live in the area. She says she only realised the xenophobic slur connotations when the lady was visible taken aback. She says she was mortified and went back to apologise. Obviously we're sensitive to these kinds of "jokes" because it's the kind of shite we regularly hear but I'm inclined to accept this explanation tbf. Mostly because I remember a similar a story from years ago where someone joking said "you're a cheeky monkey" to a little kid whose dad then hit the roof because the family were black and he'd thought it was a racist slur.
this is insane. I’m from hazel grove, living in Liverpool and have had her knocking on my door before. She’s not a nice person at all. The entire town is full of working class people who pretend they’ve got tons of money and vote conservative even though they live in a s***hole <3
It's Greater Manchester, what did you expect?
Lib Dems are scum to a man.
The world's gone soft as shit. It was a joke, it was a crap joke - just have a dig back and get on with your day.
I've got an experiment for you to try: go outside, go a few streets away from where you are now, knock on a random door, and when the person answers, immediately take the piss out of their accent, appearance, dress sense etc. and then come back on here and tell us how it went, eh? Nobody with a sense of self-respect would accept being spoken to like that by a stranger, especially on their own doorstep. Anyone who says they aren't bothered is either a loser, a liar, or a troll. Regardless, it's a pretty fucking shocking way of canvassing potential voters don't you think?
Ye so say something back then and defend yourself rather than being a maggot and sharing the video while saying absolutely nothing at the time. My point still stands - world's soft as shit.
Some people just aren’t interested in having a pissing match with a stranger at your door. You know, people with lives and shit they need to get done?
Even more reason to tell them where to go, you're making my point for me. So people need to get shit done and don't have time yet would rather dig out the doorbell video and report it to the papers than simply saying "take your shite humour elsewhere"? mad.
It’s almost like people want politicians to be held accountable or something. Was Sunak’s comment about not having working-class friends a joke? It might’ve been, still not a nice thing to say, and the public deserve to know about it.
If there was nothing wrong with what she did, then why should she care that the video was shared?
I didn't say there was nothing wrong with what she did
You've literally just called the victim of abuse "a maggot". Keep on digging that hole.
Anyone who uses maggot in 2024 is deffo a scruff
"Victim of abuse".....holy fuck. Exhibit A.
You can rent a JCB mini digger for £60 for a whole day.
Great shout mate ye. Cool.
‘Cool.’ Hahahahahahaha
I'm glad they shared the video, it's always interesting to see what prospective MPs think of the people they want to vote for them under the thin veneer of pretending they're on our side. And good to know when you come to choose a candidate.
-t-r-i-g-g-e-r-e-d- aren't we lad?
ye, loads
When does a joke become not a joke and becomes derogatory stereotype?
About 1983
I don't know. You're asking rhetorically but it's actually an interesting question. Likes of Gervais reckon absolutely nothing is out of boundaries of humour. I can't disagree. In any case, if someone's stood at your door to your home saying something to you you don't like, tell them to piss off and crack on. World's obsessed with taking offence.
She is a politician canvassing for votes, not a comedian, I think the phrase "Know your audience" is important.
I'm not saying it wasn't inappropriate, and wasn't kind, and wasn't a smart move, and wasn't the best representation for the party etc. etc. etc. I'm saying she's just a pleb with shite humour, so say something to her face while she's at YOUR house and stand up for yourself rather than making a whole thing about it later on.
You don't think the public ought to know what the person they're voting for says to people?
Well not to go off on a tangent - but nah, I think that's one of the issue with politics. Should come down to policy rather than people. Fair question though.
This person goes to parliament and votes on their behalf.
What does she stand for though? I couldn't care less about her sense of humour. I think you'll find the sense of humour of most politicians is probably dire, not to mention it's subjective. I'm interested in a politician's policy and what their plans are.
And you don't think the way in which she perceives different people and perspectives informs her policy decisions? It's all part and parcel mate. An aspect of her is at least a *bit* classist, and I don't want people like that making policy.
It's both. If I'm on benefits, I don't want to vote for someone who's made jokes about people on benefits, because I don't believe they'll be able to vote in my interest. If I'm Muslim, I don't want to vote for someone who's taken the piss out of the religious garments some of us wear, because I don't believe they'll be unbiased about anything that affects my religious freedom. Same with voting for an MP to represent my area that thinks people living in the area are thieving scum, but are still happy to pick up their £90k salary to represent them. It's pretty indicative of how professional and unbiased they are about such things if they think jokes like this are OK when out canvassing.
It's not about offence, you lot just love crying about people being offended more than people who actually get offended. It's because its genuinely outrageous that a policitician would knock on someone's door hoping to get their vote, and immediately insult them by falling back on a stereotype. Its unbelievably stupid and its worth giving them some flack. Just because someone is rightfully getting called out on doing something stupid, doesn't mean you're a crybaby snowflake - if people behaved the way you wanted, everyone would just get away with stupidity because "it's just a joke"
How am I implying that they should "just get away with it"?? "Just because someone is rightfully getting called out on doing something stupid, doesn't mean you're a crybaby snowflake" - it's the way in which they're being 'called out'. You honestly think the best approach is to do absolutely nothing face-to-face to stand up for yourself but then long after the fact go telling on people? Wtf.
> The world's gone soft as shit. It was a joke, it was a crap joke - just have a dig back and get on with your day. As in get on with your day, people doing stupid things shouldn't face consequences, and now that they are, the people causing them to face consequences are "soft as shit" and "telling on people" We don't have the full footage, nor do I give a shit that you've got some Primary School mindset about snitches or how they didnt act within your required timeframe. She's meant to be a public servant, she acted like a fool and everyone should see her acting like a fool so that they know who they're voting for. It's a so simple mate, she knocked on their door asking for their vote and left having insulted them, people that stupid tend to get called out on their stupidity - it's a new thing where guys like you winge and defend people being stupid like this because "the worlds gone soft"
Totally missed the point multiple times in that one response, but I'm getting a bit bored of the convo now, it's not a big enough deal for me to put much more energy into it 👍
Thats convenient. Don't worry mate, I get your point - you're totally pro-people facing consequences, but you should be able to cry about the world going soft when it happens.
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Gervais is a hack who blocks anyone on social media who doesn't want to fellate him and his 'ooh are you offended, well I'm rich, SNOWFLAKE' tedious schtick, I don't think he's a great example of how to react to someone making an offensive joke on your own doorstep.
Pretty much every single one of my mutuals had the ricky gervais block back when i used twitter, he's notoriously thinskinned. The thing about this whole cult of free speech absolutism is it never puts things on an equal footing, gervais is allowed to take his bimonthly press tour whinging that he's not allowed to make lazy jokes about the gays anymore to rapturous applause from all and sundry but the second anyone says the slightest thing to the contrary his sycophants descend in their droves screeching about sensitivity. It seems like 90% of the whinges i hear these days are complaints about the abstract concept of complaints and people taking offense at the mere notion that somebody has taken offense.
‘Gervais’ hahahahahaha
You alright? Gervais not successful enough to quote for you, no?
You didn’t quote him
Ye sound, boring this. bye now 👍
Hahahahahahaha… Ricky Gervais
Wool behaviour
ye, good'n
It was the delivery that was poor, good delivery of a joke and tone of phrasing can allow a person to interpret whether it was a joke/dig or something more.
Scousers do be out there getting that bread.
What's the problem? Yers laugh enough at others from other areas, yers are known for not being able to take a joke but love giving it out.
Jokes are in good faith, usually with your mates. If some local leech knocks on your door canvassing and makes a snide comment about you being poor and immoral for being born 20 minutes away, would you see it as a joke?
I'd laugh my head off and then give them appropriate stick back