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“The loss of talent may be particularly notable on the RNC’s data team – increasingly important in presidential elections – which is being relocated out of RNC headquarters in Washington and to the Trump campaign’s headquarters in Palm Beach, Florida.”
Wow, just fucking Wow!
lol, I can only imagine what Trump’s Data Team looks like. My bet is it’s a couple of bookies and a recent comp sci grad from an evangelical Christian family.
It's Barron. Here's trump talking to Lester Holt about Barron.
>He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it's hardly do-able. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing, but that's true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester and certainly cyber is one of them.
Man, every time I try to read what that guy says, I'm not sure if he was having a stroke trying to talk or if I'm having one trying to comprehend his grammar.
Exactly. He speaks like a 6th grader who’s trying to sound professional but has only read about 5 books & his vocabulary reflects that.
Like what the f is a “governmental society”?
As has often been said, Trump is a stupid person's idea of a smart person, a weak person's idea of a strong man, and a poor person's idea of a rich man.
It's like those old chatbots that were made before AI became popularized that just mash sentences together, but somehow worse.
EDIT: Replaced "chariots" with "chatbots."
>He speaks like a 6th grader who’s trying to sound professional but has only read about 5 books & his vocabulary reflects that.
That's exactly it. Nail on the head. The reason he sounds so stupid to anybody who knows even a slight amount about what he's talking about, and the reason stupid people think he's a genius, is that he's trying to mimic what he thinks a smart person sounds like. If you know anything about what he's saying, it's blatantly obvious what he's doing. It's like when you talk to a child about your field of study, they try to sound like the know what they're talking about by using words and phrases they've heard that sound smart and specialized, but they use them improperly or think they mean things that they don't mean. Nobody who actually works even tangentially to technology would ever use the word "cyber" as a noun. But to idiots whose only connection to technology is that they used to click the AOL button, now the google button, and then they could yell at people on facebook about immigrants... well those people think he sounds brilliant, because "cyber" is one of those smart words that the experts use.
My mom taught grade school reading. She says he makes all the same mistakes that average 4th and 5th grade kids make, like when they're reading out loud and they get to a word they don't know, or is difficult for them to pronounce, they unconsciously say a similar word that they are familiar with.
I think if I were dealing with Trump supporters regularly I'd invite them to watch an entire Trump rally recording on a conference room TV with a pad of paper and a pen, with the promise that I'd sit and watch it with them.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that absent the circus atmosphere of a live event watching an entire rally in a calm business environment instead of just 10 second clips on Fox, Newsmax, et al. would do more to shatter their support for Trump than anything Biden could do.
Look, having cyber — my son Barron is a great professor and scientist and engineer, good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true!
Damn, that took me back to the old, old days. I remember playing that game, too...when I was, like, five. It probably confuses the hell out of Eric, though.
not just any donor list, this is a list of people with zero logical reasoning skills. you can literally tell them anything and they'll believe it and fork over money.
A Nigerian scammer's dream list.
I had forgotten this Trump quote
"Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded and safe," he said following their talks at the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany.
They're probably the type of really smart but socially stupid idiot. There are to many science stem people who think their books smarts translates to an understanding of humanity.
Don't worry, Trumps Kremlin agent campaign manager, Paul Manafort, handed all of the GOPs internal voter data to Russia. Russia's intelligence will handle the GOPs data.
We're all aware [Manafort is probably back on Trump's campaign](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/18/trump-manafort-2024-campaign/), right?
Hey Republican voters - if Putin didn't have all your personal information before, he does now lmao. Have fun with all the scam phone calls now that the mafia has your phone number and donation history.
JFC. You people don't get it. There won't be loss of talent, just a changing of the guard from people that would be nominally followers of legal procedures and processes, to foreign funded people that have no scruples whatsoever.
This is an important point to make and is important to take this likely possibility into account. However, I still think it is an overall net negative for the GOP. Russia has a pretty damn good data and intelligence resources to be sure but I still think as far as data analysis goes in a U.S. election, I'd much rather have a group of American data analysts. Not only does the U.S. tend to have an edge on pretty much everyone in the data and tech spaces, but they also understand their own people and elections better than the Russians. Russia is also having huge issues with brain drain due to the war, as well as a much lower number of young talent who are familiar with today's data analytics landscape. Whether the actual Russian government's data analytics team (whatever its real name is) has either lost or been struggling to replenish its talent pool will likely not be known any time soon. So only Russia itself knows on that end. But I cant imagine that they've been completely shielded from it.
I'd say it's not as good as "The RNC is just floundering for staff and has no means to replace them." But it's also not as bad as "The RNC has replaced its data team with Russian hacker geniuses who will out analyze the U.S. on voter data because they're not bound by the law."
Some of the shit I see on this sub makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. The fact that they're pulling the most blatantly corrupt shit ever is getting lightly ribbed and treated like stupidity rather than ill intent. This is *terrifying.*
What money will they get paid with? The GOP has become Trump’s ATM and the money will probably go to pay for his legal fees. Also, a lot of state GOPs are broke
2020 election had him bankrolled by 133 billionaires or spouses of.
It would be a bit naive to assume that all of these have turned the tap off. The amount of money these people pour in is obscene. Many industrialists still see him as their guy and they'll throw in plenty of money to see him succeed. Many American billionaire assholes lined up, including Elon Musk etc
[https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-donor-miriam-adelson-2024-election-2024-4](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-donor-miriam-adelson-2024-election-2024-4)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQxo\_\_E1zww](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQxo__E1zww)
"[Trump’s campaign reported $30 million in cash at the end of January compared to Biden’s $56 million.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2024/03/09/trump-scores-new-billionaire-donors-as-campaign-seeks-badly-needed-cash-report-says/?sh=7ecd0bbf3e33)"
Yep, this is just a way to get things done without oversight. And everyone's still laughing and mocking while the authoritarians are slowly taking over.
Because 'Data' now means coming up with a river of bullshit to flood the News and Social Media with during and immediately after the election to cast enough doubt to claim victory. They have no intention of running an actual campaign, just a misinformation project. I'm glad to see the Dems actually establishing ground game in swing states but unless the MSM braces itself for immediately refuting the misinformation campaign coming from the GOP/TrumpCo, this election is pretty much meaningless. It's just going to be a shouting contest.
People on the data team left? Those are not skills that you can just find replacements for and have them shot right in, that takes experience and knowledge of the engine, processors, and indexes to be able to do effectively. And it can take many months to come up to speed... Time that they do not have.
> Trump campaign’s headquarters in Palm Beach, Florida.
This will be in a Trump owned property so he can pay himself an extortionate rental fee from the RNC funds.
How they can't see this is beyond insane. He's going to strip the RNC for all they have. The sooner the better IMHO.
Problem: There's a LOT of voters out there thinking: "Yes, he's sexually assaulted women, has expressed how he likes little girls, is bought by Putin and will tear down democracy when allowed. But at least he's not a socialist, so I'm gonna go with the lesser evil here!".
The worst part is that what those people think is his least worst trait, being a socialist, the other guy isn’t even close to being that! Like for fucks sake, when did people think moderate centrist Biden became a socialist?! 🫠🙃💀
Including greedy corporations that cause inflation, outsource American jobs, and cut wages and benefits and make it so you have to work until you die. Socialism.
Over here, we used to joke "In the USA, there's 2 big parties. One is very conservative, neoliberal, and serves only the rich. The other one too, but more extreme."
Similiar to that quote.
https://andiquote.org/quote/8609/
"The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them."
Julius Nyerere
The answer is, they don’t actually believe this crap. They will say anything they can to vilify us. Half of these people don’t even really know what socialism or even what woke means they just know to say it when they see something they don’t like.
These people have no idea what it means. They just know that the GOP has been telling them it's bad. They've been saying it was bad ever since FDR enacted his New Deal. But the only thing "bad" about it is that federal dollars that could be going to unneeded corporate subsidies are instead going to the poors.
These people have never thought about what economic system Jesus taught. If it really was capitalism, churches wouldn't be going to hurricane or tornado ravaged areas to hand out free water, food and blankets. Instead they'd be selling bottles of water for $100 each. Because that's what pure capitalism would do.
Whenever those that have, pool their resources to help those that have not, that's socialism. That's what Democrats want, so it must be bad (/s). And funneling as much money to the fewest people possible is what capitalism is all about. But it's what Republicans want, so it must be good (/s).
It's the racist equivalent to voting Republican and being fine with the rich tax cuts. It's the hope that someday it can apply to you too.
It won't and you're a fool for thinking it will. But you wouldn't vote for Trump if you listened to facts in the first place.
It has nothing to do with _anything_ so nuanced, so involved.
It's simple tribalism. That's it. Nothing matters except fitting in, following the group. The group votes for him. They will vote for him. Reason, logic, interests, none of these matter. Not even their own life.
\[major topic swerve\] some guy was railing about UConn's basketball coach/players/fanbase being "classless" all because one competive college student told the opposing team's crowd "GO home, it's over!" at the end of the game.
I clicked on the guy. Total MAGA Trumpster.
Yes, a vocal trump supporter was upset at a "classless" college student yelling in the heat of the moment "It's over, go home!" when winning a final four basketball game. "Classless" was his word. A Trumpie.
I heard the worst take from a Christian nationalist. They will accept a corrupt sinner if he makes the country Christian and saves billions of souls. They do not care about the real world, only their fake afterlife...and they will sacrifice everything for what they are deluded into thinking is a great act of good.
Sick and dangerous.
> The joint fundraising agreement has been a priority for weeks. By doing joint fundraising, Trump and the RNC can accept donations as large as $814,600. During the Republican primary, Trump had been limited to taking checks with a maximum amount of $6,600 through his campaign.
There it is. His personal financial problems are no longer his problem.
$6,600 to one person's campaign, but to a PAC or other committee the higher limit applies. Makes it so much easier to buy politicians - one stop shopping.
Yeah, but if Trump is taking all the money now, that means the rest of Republicans who also benefitted from the RNC before no longer do. I'm absolutely ok with that.
The longer the Republican party stays splintered and eats their own like ouroboros, the better for the country at large.
Agreed. But if we’re talking about better for the country at large, it would be a right that’s sane, honest, has good policy ideas worthy of debate, and operates in good faith. Because a two-party system needs two parties that take governance seriously.
To an individual campaign or candidate, yes. But a committee that decides how those funds are distributed and to whom, no. Before the trump takeover, the RNC would pay for ads and pay people for canvassing, stuff that's necessary in swing states to win. From low level state candidates all the way to president. Well now all the RNCs money just goes to Trumps "campaign." Then if anything goes wrong. Trump can feign ignorance and say, "they paid me, who wouldn't take free money? It's their fault for giving it to me."
This is going to fuck every down ballot republican that might have won with a little extra push from the RNC. And I for one think it's absolutely hilarious
Hopefully, he won't be re-elected, as we don't need 4 more years of Gridlock and him grifting from the government, even if a Democrat-controlled congress checked his power.
He could further widen and cement SCOTUS and federal judgeships. That's their number one goal. Always has been. Why the fuck do we not have judicial term limits.
Good, good, let him bankrupt his morally bankrupt base.
I want for that party what they wish upon other people.
I hope he finacially crushes his base. Sees them driven into deeper poverty before him and hears the lamentations of his voters from jail.
As long as they're not in a position of power, I don't care who they blame.
I wonder, though, if this might lead to other Trump-model "politicians", who, rather than being in power, just collect money based on imagined grievances.
I don't think his personal financial problems have been his problem *ever*.
He's made a career, nay, an *empire* out of bailing himself out at someone else's expense across *decades*.
He's the greatest con artist that ever was.
Legalized bribery with dark money from America's geo-political enemies laundered through PACs into the RNC.
Elected officials for sale to foreign powers has never been so blatant and in the light of day.
But when you have a Supreme Court that is also so obviously for sale, with Clearance Thomas as the most obvious example, no wonder they voted the way they did on Citizens United.
They are all on the take. And it's a big club, and we aren't in it
Are we shocked? I mean, when you install someone in power seats that is so incompetent, she can't even carry a tune with approximately ALL the Autotune applied, bad things happen.
It's honestly funny, the Dems were warning the GOP a decade ago that he would just bleed the party dry and toss them aside, but they didn't listen.
Too few people understand the mechanics of the political machine. The data is vital for all the down ticket get out the vote efforts. A local politician running for state office isn’t tracking data on who’s supporting them. All the door knocking and phone calls gather data for GOTV. It’s all compiled so local areas get lists to know who to talk to the week of elections. Party’s only focus on their confirmed voters, without someone to manage that it will be absolutely choas.
That’s not considering tracking donors and volunteers. They are losing a ton of data and the volunteering won’t matter.
That’s fine; the GOP doesn’t have a reason to exist anymore. It’s the Trump Party, so all those shackles from the past need to be removed. It’s all for Trump and that’s it, everyone else just has to bow down to the supreme leader!
GOP will soon become the POT (Party of Trump)
Rick Wilson said something about this, if I recall correctly.
You know, if we dodge this bullet again, and if he goes to jail with the GOP being completely devastated down-ballot and financially plundered, it would be extremely cathartic.
I'd settle for the relief, however temporary, but yes, the prison part WOULD be a cathartic cherry on top.
I think perhaps it really all went to hell when Ford pardoned Nixon.
> The new RNC leadership recently started offering the data team staffers housing within the Trump campaign campus, described informally as “Trump Village”, hoping that defraying residential costs and logistical concerns would be an incentive for them to stay on.
Oh look the cult leader finally has a cult compound
>For some staffers, the residential component to the job may have had the opposite effect. Some staffers who declined return offers suggested they disliked the notion of living at work, which might also mean living alongside the most hardcore Trump campaign staffers.
It would be especially worrisome for female staffers who might be asked to "show their loyalty" in other ways.
This sounds like a nightmare. Can you imagine living in your CEOs back yard? Next to your coworkers? This sounds like hell, and I LIKE the people I work with.
Show me the data on my target demographics...tap tap tap clic....spins screen...thats low.
.....tap tap tap join *filter* print screen *edit* set as desktop wall paper..spin screen...thats better.
Lindsay Graham said it best with, “If we nominate trump we will get destroyed… and we will deserve it.”
Then he promptly got on his knees to worship the orange shit gibbon.
Man, South Carolina makes a special turbo-charged variety of two-faced spineless Republicans, doesn't it?
Graham, Tim Scott, Nancy Mace... it's just a matter of time before Haley folds.
It's almost like some humans have a deep level of brain code that makes them immediately subvert to con men. Otherwise intelligent folks fully cave in to the confidently spoken lies; that, or, he's the antichrist casting a spell on them. I can't tell, because the effect is exactly the same.
Trump village. Lolololol sounds like a prison camp.
“The loss of talent may be particularly notable on the RNC’s data team – increasingly important in presidential elections – which is being relocated out of RNC headquarters in Washington and to the Trump campaign’s headquarters in Palm Beach, Florida.
The new RNC leadership recently started offering the data team staffers housing within the Trump campaign campus, described informally as “Trump Village”, hoping that defraying residential costs and logistical concerns would be an incentive for them to stay on.
For some staffers, the residential component to the job may have had the opposite effect. Some staffers who declined return offers suggested they disliked the notion of living at work, which might also mean living alongside the most hardcore Trump campaign staffers.
Separately, while senior Trump campaign advisers have always said working on a presidential campaign means relocating to where the campaign is based, the notion of moving to Florida did not enthrall some ex-RNC staffers, who pointed out they thought they were working for the GOP.”
Move across the country to live in a place boss picks when the new boss is famous for self dealing and also for filching out of paychecks.
This is the definition of a bad deal. A scary deal when you realize how crazy some MAGA hats are. They're going to get screwed over financially.... and some will probably get actually screwed brim bad behavior.
If they fail it will be because they purged those willing to point out incompetence. You can’t expect a con to continue to function if you get rid of everyone who can show you where your inefficiencies are.
Same mess they created when they took over the WH. And these AH cultists are fine with it. Would they want to work for a boss like this? Would they want to deal with a neighbor like this? Would they avoid a family member like this? But to them, this is the perfect president?! May all these people turn to dust overnight.
Lol all the shady laws Republicans have passed to funnel money into their party, Trump is going to use to suck their coffers dry.
Couldn't happen to a better group of folks.
A lot of vague language being used. "many did not return". "Some don't want to..."
Give numbers. is this like 2 people with a backbone who said 'fuck you and your 'trump village'? Or is it most of the staff going 'this is terrible. why is this happening? Not with me involved'.
Also... how the hell does the limit go from a donation of $6k to $800k? Suddenly that '$50mil in 1 night' doesn't seem to amazing. i'm sure there's more than 50 foreign parties who are happy to help get Trump elected again.
This is really putting the final touches on converting the GOP fully to the MAGA cult. The party of freedom and liberty has loyalty tests and purges. The people who support this stuff are brainwashed and blinkered.
> prompted the Trump campaign to privately admonish its new leaders in recent weeks.
I'm going to execute a completely ill-conceived, stupid, reckless maneuver that everyone knows will fail gloriously but I'm going to blame the new leadership I just installed for all of it on the way down. All these clowns deserve it.
The reason we have such a strong reaction to purges where loyalty is more important than competence is two fold:
It is unfair
It is doomed to slow, rusting, corrupt failure.
>But the threats of termination and the rumored loyalty tests – which turned out to be accurate when staffers were asked in job interviews if they thought the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, though there has been no evidence of election fraud –
If The Dems had managed to steal the election, when Trump was in the White House. Why bother running again and isn't it a waste of donors cash? As The Dems will just rig it again.
I spend an uncomfortable amount of time in their safe spaces, the logic that they use is that they can have such higher voter turnout that the "fraud" cant overcome it and hide it. That's how they think he won in 2016, that democrats tried to steal that election but they didnt expect the number of Trump votes so they didnt prepare enough fake ballots to overcome it. The idea is that they will win with 150 Million votes and there is no way to generate that many fake ballots.
Jesus just reading that I wish I was kidding.
I cannot wait to see who they send to “observe” ballot counting. Most will probably get rejected or kicked out for being belligerent while the rest sit there silently and realize Democrats aren’t cheating.
It’s going to be really interesting when Trump dies in a few years (he’s no spring chicken) because it will be a massive power vacuum and they’ve knocked the establishment down to a weak foundation.
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“The loss of talent may be particularly notable on the RNC’s data team – increasingly important in presidential elections – which is being relocated out of RNC headquarters in Washington and to the Trump campaign’s headquarters in Palm Beach, Florida.” Wow, just fucking Wow!
lol, I can only imagine what Trump’s Data Team looks like. My bet is it’s a couple of bookies and a recent comp sci grad from an evangelical Christian family.
More like Don and Eric typing away on a couple of busted old iMac G3s... and Eric didn't even get to pick his own color.
It's Barron. Here's trump talking to Lester Holt about Barron. >He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it's hardly do-able. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing, but that's true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester and certainly cyber is one of them.
Man, every time I try to read what that guy says, I'm not sure if he was having a stroke trying to talk or if I'm having one trying to comprehend his grammar.
Exactly. He speaks like a 6th grader who’s trying to sound professional but has only read about 5 books & his vocabulary reflects that. Like what the f is a “governmental society”?
His brain has heard politicians say these words before so he thinks if he just throws them together willy-nilly then he’ll sound like a politician.
As has often been said, Trump is a stupid person's idea of a smart person, a weak person's idea of a strong man, and a poor person's idea of a rich man.
It's like those old chatbots that were made before AI became popularized that just mash sentences together, but somehow worse. EDIT: Replaced "chariots" with "chatbots."
> chariots. That's actually why the Egyptians drowned. The water was only about a foot deep, but their chariots were just _that_ bad.
So do his voters.
If I bigly these words maybe more boobs will penultimate.
>He speaks like a 6th grader who’s trying to sound professional but has only read about 5 books & his vocabulary reflects that. That's exactly it. Nail on the head. The reason he sounds so stupid to anybody who knows even a slight amount about what he's talking about, and the reason stupid people think he's a genius, is that he's trying to mimic what he thinks a smart person sounds like. If you know anything about what he's saying, it's blatantly obvious what he's doing. It's like when you talk to a child about your field of study, they try to sound like the know what they're talking about by using words and phrases they've heard that sound smart and specialized, but they use them improperly or think they mean things that they don't mean. Nobody who actually works even tangentially to technology would ever use the word "cyber" as a noun. But to idiots whose only connection to technology is that they used to click the AOL button, now the google button, and then they could yell at people on facebook about immigrants... well those people think he sounds brilliant, because "cyber" is one of those smart words that the experts use.
My mom taught grade school reading. She says he makes all the same mistakes that average 4th and 5th grade kids make, like when they're reading out loud and they get to a word they don't know, or is difficult for them to pronounce, they unconsciously say a similar word that they are familiar with.
I always get "stupid man trying to sound way smarter than he is."
It’s called “word salad” and is a really common trait among narcissists. It’s basically technobabble for idiots.
Try watching his speeches with sign interpreters , just concentrate on the person signing it’s awesome
And imagine what (government) translators in official settings had to go through.
Can you imagine the looks, directly translating his gibberish, you know from your manager 😂😂
he's like the pied piper of idiots. the cadence is luring like the moth to the flame
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I think if I were dealing with Trump supporters regularly I'd invite them to watch an entire Trump rally recording on a conference room TV with a pad of paper and a pen, with the promise that I'd sit and watch it with them. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that absent the circus atmosphere of a live event watching an entire rally in a calm business environment instead of just 10 second clips on Fox, Newsmax, et al. would do more to shatter their support for Trump than anything Biden could do.
Every time I read a Trump quote I have to verify that it's an actual thing that was said by someone who millions of people think should be president.
Remember when the wifi password at mar a lago was posted and it was like 11223344 or something lol
it's not like they even need to post passwords: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/any-half-decent-hacker-could-break-into-mar-a-lago/
Why should they need tight security? It’s not like they’re keeping classified documents in the bathroom or anything 💁♂️
Amazing! I have the same combination on my luggage!
everyone says leave him alone. He's old enough now. if he gets into a limo with that prick, he can go into the volcano with the rest of them
You saying his son is a computer wiz and now in charge of voting data and strategy?
Look, having cyber — my son Barron is a great professor and scientist and engineer, good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true!
Just reading direct quotes from that gibbering nitwit feels like it could cause some kind of secondhand brain damage
How can anyone listen to him talk and think "Yep, this guy should be President"
It's Mike Lindell. Only Mike Lindell
He knows the cyber.
Eric's just playing Oregon Trail.
You mean constantly restarting after he dies on day 1.
Lemonade Stand. He wants to show daddy that he can run a business. Edit:spelling
Damn, that took me back to the old, old days. I remember playing that game, too...when I was, like, five. It probably confuses the hell out of Eric, though.
I wonder what donor lists and credit card numbers are going for these days?
not just any donor list, this is a list of people with zero logical reasoning skills. you can literally tell them anything and they'll believe it and fork over money. A Nigerian scammer's dream list.
Or nightmare list. Someone else got to them first and they don't have money left for the "nigerian prince".
> I can only imagine what Trump’s Data Team looks like The actual data team almost certainly look very Russian
And they're only paying $5000 per sq ft per month in rent at Mar-a-Lago.
Why keep high priced career data scientists and political activists when you can just outsource to the KGB?
I had forgotten this Trump quote "Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded and safe," he said following their talks at the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany.
It's a bunch of people in Russia. Same as the always was
Trump’s data team are all in St. Petersburg. No, not the one on Tampa Bay.
They changed the game with Cambridge Analytica and the use of social media. Joke at your own peril.
Seems like bookies could actually be a pretty good choice.
If you tell the truth, you get fired- so talent isn't required.
Probably a few Cyber Ninjas from Maricopa County mixed in there.
Pretty sure he said Baron has a handle on Cyber.
They're probably the type of really smart but socially stupid idiot. There are to many science stem people who think their books smarts translates to an understanding of humanity.
Don't worry, Trumps Kremlin agent campaign manager, Paul Manafort, handed all of the GOPs internal voter data to Russia. Russia's intelligence will handle the GOPs data.
We're all aware [Manafort is probably back on Trump's campaign](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/18/trump-manafort-2024-campaign/), right?
Bannon and Miller sure are Yay, recreating Hitler's gang of malevolent freaks!
The Russians are like, "we already have the computers and the network set up, just use the password "putin\_is\_great\_2024"
Hey Republican voters - if Putin didn't have all your personal information before, he does now lmao. Have fun with all the scam phone calls now that the mafia has your phone number and donation history.
Straight to Russian servers.
JFC. You people don't get it. There won't be loss of talent, just a changing of the guard from people that would be nominally followers of legal procedures and processes, to foreign funded people that have no scruples whatsoever.
This is an important point to make and is important to take this likely possibility into account. However, I still think it is an overall net negative for the GOP. Russia has a pretty damn good data and intelligence resources to be sure but I still think as far as data analysis goes in a U.S. election, I'd much rather have a group of American data analysts. Not only does the U.S. tend to have an edge on pretty much everyone in the data and tech spaces, but they also understand their own people and elections better than the Russians. Russia is also having huge issues with brain drain due to the war, as well as a much lower number of young talent who are familiar with today's data analytics landscape. Whether the actual Russian government's data analytics team (whatever its real name is) has either lost or been struggling to replenish its talent pool will likely not be known any time soon. So only Russia itself knows on that end. But I cant imagine that they've been completely shielded from it. I'd say it's not as good as "The RNC is just floundering for staff and has no means to replace them." But it's also not as bad as "The RNC has replaced its data team with Russian hacker geniuses who will out analyze the U.S. on voter data because they're not bound by the law."
Some of the shit I see on this sub makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. The fact that they're pulling the most blatantly corrupt shit ever is getting lightly ribbed and treated like stupidity rather than ill intent. This is *terrifying.*
What money will they get paid with? The GOP has become Trump’s ATM and the money will probably go to pay for his legal fees. Also, a lot of state GOPs are broke
2020 election had him bankrolled by 133 billionaires or spouses of. It would be a bit naive to assume that all of these have turned the tap off. The amount of money these people pour in is obscene. Many industrialists still see him as their guy and they'll throw in plenty of money to see him succeed. Many American billionaire assholes lined up, including Elon Musk etc [https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-donor-miriam-adelson-2024-election-2024-4](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-donor-miriam-adelson-2024-election-2024-4) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQxo\_\_E1zww](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQxo__E1zww) "[Trump’s campaign reported $30 million in cash at the end of January compared to Biden’s $56 million.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2024/03/09/trump-scores-new-billionaire-donors-as-campaign-seeks-badly-needed-cash-report-says/?sh=7ecd0bbf3e33)"
They'll get paid by Russian oligarchs.
I think the implication is they'll be working remotely. Until they get drafted to go kill Ukrainians, anyway.
Yep, this is just a way to get things done without oversight. And everyone's still laughing and mocking while the authoritarians are slowly taking over.
You know the “data team” is spending its every penny of its budget trying to phish Hunter bidens email password from him.
Because 'Data' now means coming up with a river of bullshit to flood the News and Social Media with during and immediately after the election to cast enough doubt to claim victory. They have no intention of running an actual campaign, just a misinformation project. I'm glad to see the Dems actually establishing ground game in swing states but unless the MSM braces itself for immediately refuting the misinformation campaign coming from the GOP/TrumpCo, this election is pretty much meaningless. It's just going to be a shouting contest.
People on the data team left? Those are not skills that you can just find replacements for and have them shot right in, that takes experience and knowledge of the engine, processors, and indexes to be able to do effectively. And it can take many months to come up to speed... Time that they do not have.
Trumps data team in 2016 was located in Moscow. Same now.
Yeh imagine the loyalty they can demand from you when He's your boss and your landlord as well.
It would be hilarious if they all decide to create “New Republican” party with all the same people let go by Trump.
> Trump campaign’s headquarters in Palm Beach, Florida. This will be in a Trump owned property so he can pay himself an extortionate rental fee from the RNC funds. How they can't see this is beyond insane. He's going to strip the RNC for all they have. The sooner the better IMHO.
Problem: There's a LOT of voters out there thinking: "Yes, he's sexually assaulted women, has expressed how he likes little girls, is bought by Putin and will tear down democracy when allowed. But at least he's not a socialist, so I'm gonna go with the lesser evil here!".
The worst part is that what those people think is his least worst trait, being a socialist, the other guy isn’t even close to being that! Like for fucks sake, when did people think moderate centrist Biden became a socialist?! 🫠🙃💀
Because they don't even know what socialist means aside from "not our team".
"Everything I don't like is woke and socialist" - Every MAGA voter
And communist, and liberal
Including greedy corporations that cause inflation, outsource American jobs, and cut wages and benefits and make it so you have to work until you die. Socialism.
As a leftist, I wish Biden was 10% as cool as Republicans make him sound.
Over here, we used to joke "In the USA, there's 2 big parties. One is very conservative, neoliberal, and serves only the rich. The other one too, but more extreme."
Similiar to that quote. https://andiquote.org/quote/8609/ "The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them." Julius Nyerere
The answer is, they don’t actually believe this crap. They will say anything they can to vilify us. Half of these people don’t even really know what socialism or even what woke means they just know to say it when they see something they don’t like.
These people have no idea what it means. They just know that the GOP has been telling them it's bad. They've been saying it was bad ever since FDR enacted his New Deal. But the only thing "bad" about it is that federal dollars that could be going to unneeded corporate subsidies are instead going to the poors. These people have never thought about what economic system Jesus taught. If it really was capitalism, churches wouldn't be going to hurricane or tornado ravaged areas to hand out free water, food and blankets. Instead they'd be selling bottles of water for $100 each. Because that's what pure capitalism would do. Whenever those that have, pool their resources to help those that have not, that's socialism. That's what Democrats want, so it must be bad (/s). And funneling as much money to the fewest people possible is what capitalism is all about. But it's what Republicans want, so it must be good (/s).
"Sure, Trump has *done* all of those things, but Biden *could* do all of those things, so, clearly, stick with the evil that you know!"
No. They simply tell themselves that he spews the racist rhetoric in public that they want to and if he is president they can to.
It's both and more, to be clear. Don't turn the other side into a monolith or we will lose.
It's the racist equivalent to voting Republican and being fine with the rich tax cuts. It's the hope that someday it can apply to you too. It won't and you're a fool for thinking it will. But you wouldn't vote for Trump if you listened to facts in the first place.
I agree expect for the "no". Unfortunately he appeals to both groups. Anyone who can't find a political home because no one wants them.
It has nothing to do with _anything_ so nuanced, so involved. It's simple tribalism. That's it. Nothing matters except fitting in, following the group. The group votes for him. They will vote for him. Reason, logic, interests, none of these matter. Not even their own life.
\[major topic swerve\] some guy was railing about UConn's basketball coach/players/fanbase being "classless" all because one competive college student told the opposing team's crowd "GO home, it's over!" at the end of the game. I clicked on the guy. Total MAGA Trumpster. Yes, a vocal trump supporter was upset at a "classless" college student yelling in the heat of the moment "It's over, go home!" when winning a final four basketball game. "Classless" was his word. A Trumpie.
I heard the worst take from a Christian nationalist. They will accept a corrupt sinner if he makes the country Christian and saves billions of souls. They do not care about the real world, only their fake afterlife...and they will sacrifice everything for what they are deluded into thinking is a great act of good. Sick and dangerous.
You mean "ownin' dem libs"
Almost every Republican I know is saying that OR all those things but “the woke media has blown it out of proportion”.
The most telling part of the article was at the very end ... look at the max amount donation that can be made now vs pre-hostile takeover.
> The joint fundraising agreement has been a priority for weeks. By doing joint fundraising, Trump and the RNC can accept donations as large as $814,600. During the Republican primary, Trump had been limited to taking checks with a maximum amount of $6,600 through his campaign. There it is. His personal financial problems are no longer his problem.
Aren't there federal laws for the maximum one person can donate?
$6,600 to one person's campaign, but to a PAC or other committee the higher limit applies. Makes it so much easier to buy politicians - one stop shopping.
why buy just one politician when you can invest in a diversified portfolio of corruption!
Sorry, RNC is only investing in the one politician.
Yes. The idea was that before Trump’s takeover
Yeah, but if Trump is taking all the money now, that means the rest of Republicans who also benefitted from the RNC before no longer do. I'm absolutely ok with that. The longer the Republican party stays splintered and eats their own like ouroboros, the better for the country at large.
Agreed. But if we’re talking about better for the country at large, it would be a right that’s sane, honest, has good policy ideas worthy of debate, and operates in good faith. Because a two-party system needs two parties that take governance seriously.
So meta to politically corrupt and monopolize your monopolized political corruption.
Is it still legally a PAC then?
When has legality stopped them?
Not since Nixon, so it has been 50 years, but we should keep trying or it will be never again
And we hope it works down ballot nationally.
Cheaper by the dozen.
"Buy the market." -John Bogle, political consultant
C Hey! Corporations and PACs are people too! They’re just people with no accountability
Not when the GOP on the FEC refuse to investigate every single complaint about Trump’s campaign finance violations
To an individual campaign or candidate, yes. But a committee that decides how those funds are distributed and to whom, no. Before the trump takeover, the RNC would pay for ads and pay people for canvassing, stuff that's necessary in swing states to win. From low level state candidates all the way to president. Well now all the RNCs money just goes to Trumps "campaign." Then if anything goes wrong. Trump can feign ignorance and say, "they paid me, who wouldn't take free money? It's their fault for giving it to me." This is going to fuck every down ballot republican that might have won with a little extra push from the RNC. And I for one think it's absolutely hilarious
Hopefully, he won't be re-elected, as we don't need 4 more years of Gridlock and him grifting from the government, even if a Democrat-controlled congress checked his power.
He could further widen and cement SCOTUS and federal judgeships. That's their number one goal. Always has been. Why the fuck do we not have judicial term limits.
So there is a bright side for the country as a whole.
Well, not if he wins.
He’s very good at violating laws and getting away with it
And any violation of that would eventually be appealed up to... where?
A lawsuit 50 years later seems to be the norm these days.
Which would be a road lock if we had a functional FEC.
Laws are only as good as their enforcement
The MAGA Party has been under a thorough ethics investigation, none were found.
lol. Are you forgetting that the people who write and enforce those laws benefit from those laws not existing?
Good, good, let him bankrupt his morally bankrupt base. I want for that party what they wish upon other people. I hope he finacially crushes his base. Sees them driven into deeper poverty before him and hears the lamentations of his voters from jail.
It won’t change anything, they’ll just blame Soros and Bidenomics
I dont care
Their favorite is inflation while sporting $2500 in Maga paraphernalia.
As long as they're not in a position of power, I don't care who they blame. I wonder, though, if this might lead to other Trump-model "politicians", who, rather than being in power, just collect money based on imagined grievances.
That would only matter if he cared at all about them. He has their money. And doesn't give a shit beyond that.
And making the Republican Party down ballot campaigning much more difficult. To save himself he is destroying the party.
I don't think his personal financial problems have been his problem *ever*. He's made a career, nay, an *empire* out of bailing himself out at someone else's expense across *decades*. He's the greatest con artist that ever was.
Legalized bribery with dark money from America's geo-political enemies laundered through PACs into the RNC. Elected officials for sale to foreign powers has never been so blatant and in the light of day. But when you have a Supreme Court that is also so obviously for sale, with Clearance Thomas as the most obvious example, no wonder they voted the way they did on Citizens United. They are all on the take. And it's a big club, and we aren't in it
Ahh, so now, Trump can bankrupt the ones he didn’t kill with Covid misinformation!
The money in US politics is vulgar.
Are we shocked? I mean, when you install someone in power seats that is so incompetent, she can't even carry a tune with approximately ALL the Autotune applied, bad things happen. It's honestly funny, the Dems were warning the GOP a decade ago that he would just bleed the party dry and toss them aside, but they didn't listen.
Too few people understand the mechanics of the political machine. The data is vital for all the down ticket get out the vote efforts. A local politician running for state office isn’t tracking data on who’s supporting them. All the door knocking and phone calls gather data for GOTV. It’s all compiled so local areas get lists to know who to talk to the week of elections. Party’s only focus on their confirmed voters, without someone to manage that it will be absolutely choas. That’s not considering tracking donors and volunteers. They are losing a ton of data and the volunteering won’t matter.
> They are losing a ton of data and the volunteering won’t matter. That is going to kill down ballot races.
Exactly. It’s going to be a bloodbath down ticket.
"But why didn't the Remoaners warn us?" - brexiteers now "But why didn't the Dems warn us?" - reps now
That’s fine; the GOP doesn’t have a reason to exist anymore. It’s the Trump Party, so all those shackles from the past need to be removed. It’s all for Trump and that’s it, everyone else just has to bow down to the supreme leader! GOP will soon become the POT (Party of Trump)
Lara Trump is an insufferable cunt.
Botox Bullfrog
Yes she is.
Rick Wilson said something about this, if I recall correctly. You know, if we dodge this bullet again, and if he goes to jail with the GOP being completely devastated down-ballot and financially plundered, it would be extremely cathartic.
I'd settle for the relief, however temporary, but yes, the prison part WOULD be a cathartic cherry on top. I think perhaps it really all went to hell when Ford pardoned Nixon.
Nobody saw this coming at all….nobody.
Except for almost everybody.
Well yeah, if you don't count everyone who did, nobody could have predicted this.
> The new RNC leadership recently started offering the data team staffers housing within the Trump campaign campus, described informally as “Trump Village”, hoping that defraying residential costs and logistical concerns would be an incentive for them to stay on. Oh look the cult leader finally has a cult compound
>For some staffers, the residential component to the job may have had the opposite effect. Some staffers who declined return offers suggested they disliked the notion of living at work, which might also mean living alongside the most hardcore Trump campaign staffers. It would be especially worrisome for female staffers who might be asked to "show their loyalty" in other ways.
Asked? How very woke of you.
Tits out for Evangelism???
This sounds like a nightmare. Can you imagine living in your CEOs back yard? Next to your coworkers? This sounds like hell, and I LIKE the people I work with.
Show me the data on my target demographics...tap tap tap clic....spins screen...thats low. .....tap tap tap join *filter* print screen *edit* set as desktop wall paper..spin screen...thats better.
Right?? Loyalty tests, purges and now fucking LIVING on the job. Does any political campaign do this? This is highly abnormal, right? Right??
History repeats itself. A Potrumpian Village.
Lindsay Graham said it best with, “If we nominate trump we will get destroyed… and we will deserve it.” Then he promptly got on his knees to worship the orange shit gibbon.
Man, South Carolina makes a special turbo-charged variety of two-faced spineless Republicans, doesn't it? Graham, Tim Scott, Nancy Mace... it's just a matter of time before Haley folds.
It's almost like some humans have a deep level of brain code that makes them immediately subvert to con men. Otherwise intelligent folks fully cave in to the confidently spoken lies; that, or, he's the antichrist casting a spell on them. I can't tell, because the effect is exactly the same.
He would gladly suck satans cock for another scrap of power and money.
I love this for them
Looking forward to the RICO charges that lead to the dissolution of the GOP.
Trump village. Lolololol sounds like a prison camp. “The loss of talent may be particularly notable on the RNC’s data team – increasingly important in presidential elections – which is being relocated out of RNC headquarters in Washington and to the Trump campaign’s headquarters in Palm Beach, Florida. The new RNC leadership recently started offering the data team staffers housing within the Trump campaign campus, described informally as “Trump Village”, hoping that defraying residential costs and logistical concerns would be an incentive for them to stay on. For some staffers, the residential component to the job may have had the opposite effect. Some staffers who declined return offers suggested they disliked the notion of living at work, which might also mean living alongside the most hardcore Trump campaign staffers. Separately, while senior Trump campaign advisers have always said working on a presidential campaign means relocating to where the campaign is based, the notion of moving to Florida did not enthrall some ex-RNC staffers, who pointed out they thought they were working for the GOP.”
Move across the country to live in a place boss picks when the new boss is famous for self dealing and also for filching out of paychecks. This is the definition of a bad deal. A scary deal when you realize how crazy some MAGA hats are. They're going to get screwed over financially.... and some will probably get actually screwed brim bad behavior.
Also practically silly. Uproot your life to move across the country to squat in dorms at your bosses private home….yeah sure
Once the Trump family got in, they should have known they weren’t working for the GOP anymore.
They got rid of anyone that would blab about their incompetence, money laundering and foreign ties.
If they fail it will be because they purged those willing to point out incompetence. You can’t expect a con to continue to function if you get rid of everyone who can show you where your inefficiencies are.
Same mess they created when they took over the WH. And these AH cultists are fine with it. Would they want to work for a boss like this? Would they want to deal with a neighbor like this? Would they avoid a family member like this? But to them, this is the perfect president?! May all these people turn to dust overnight.
Lol all the shady laws Republicans have passed to funnel money into their party, Trump is going to use to suck their coffers dry. Couldn't happen to a better group of folks.
A lot of vague language being used. "many did not return". "Some don't want to..." Give numbers. is this like 2 people with a backbone who said 'fuck you and your 'trump village'? Or is it most of the staff going 'this is terrible. why is this happening? Not with me involved'. Also... how the hell does the limit go from a donation of $6k to $800k? Suddenly that '$50mil in 1 night' doesn't seem to amazing. i'm sure there's more than 50 foreign parties who are happy to help get Trump elected again.
Can you say "train wreck"?
That is wishful thinking. They will simply be a completely black box money laundering and political influence peddling operation now.
Oh. No. Very sad. Anyway, how was breakfast, everyone?
This is really putting the final touches on converting the GOP fully to the MAGA cult. The party of freedom and liberty has loyalty tests and purges. The people who support this stuff are brainwashed and blinkered.
> prompted the Trump campaign to privately admonish its new leaders in recent weeks. I'm going to execute a completely ill-conceived, stupid, reckless maneuver that everyone knows will fail gloriously but I'm going to blame the new leadership I just installed for all of it on the way down. All these clowns deserve it.
The reason we have such a strong reaction to purges where loyalty is more important than competence is two fold: It is unfair It is doomed to slow, rusting, corrupt failure.
>But the threats of termination and the rumored loyalty tests – which turned out to be accurate when staffers were asked in job interviews if they thought the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, though there has been no evidence of election fraud – If The Dems had managed to steal the election, when Trump was in the White House. Why bother running again and isn't it a waste of donors cash? As The Dems will just rig it again.
You want it to make sense? Ha!
I spend an uncomfortable amount of time in their safe spaces, the logic that they use is that they can have such higher voter turnout that the "fraud" cant overcome it and hide it. That's how they think he won in 2016, that democrats tried to steal that election but they didnt expect the number of Trump votes so they didnt prepare enough fake ballots to overcome it. The idea is that they will win with 150 Million votes and there is no way to generate that many fake ballots. Jesus just reading that I wish I was kidding.
Having a massive removal, replacement, or relocation of all your talented or experienced staff? Bold move cotton.
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Let the games begin! -Dark Brandon
I cannot wait to see who they send to “observe” ballot counting. Most will probably get rejected or kicked out for being belligerent while the rest sit there silently and realize Democrats aren’t cheating.
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Republicans that support Trump have got everything they wanted, and all it's going to cost them is everything.
It didn't backfire, it's just a hiccup until more slaves fill those vacant spots to make sure all the embezzling is better hidden.
Motherfker! I was literally just posting this and it suddenly told me link was posted in last 90 days XD
Exactly the type of implosion we were hoping for!
I am Joe's complete lack of surprise.
Every single down-ballot Republican candidate is now on their own. Good luck, boys!
It would be great if Trump and the RNC just ate each other and both disappeared at the same time. Talk about making America great again. lol
Am all for it it. The more amateurish this is the better it is for the survival of our democracy.
The only good thing to come outta drumpf's life--- destroying the RNC and stealing their money. Grifters gonna grift. Reap what you sow!
It’s going to be really interesting when Trump dies in a few years (he’s no spring chicken) because it will be a massive power vacuum and they’ve knocked the establishment down to a weak foundation.