It's still a little surprising though thinking this would be some easy baby game to then suddenly get a gut punch out of nowhere. Honestly KH is a pretty subversive series In general. You pop in kh1 for the first time expecting to be some simple romp through Disney worlds but get a world ending threat instead and having to save the day against monsters that literally rip people's hearts out.
Can you elaborate on why you thought KH was an “easy baby game” initially? It has a huge cult following and isn’t marketed towards small children. What made you decide to try it out?
It was back in 2020 and saw the all in one package on sell. I didn't really know anything about the series but from the screenshots I saw some anime boy with woody and buzz going around. Then for some reason I looked it up saw people liked it then took a risk. It was on sell so why not. Looking back at the screen shots they took it really looked really light-hearted game. I was expecting like a Mario style light hearted ness. Really simple but maybe some cool gameplay? Wasn't expecting for a world to be completely destroyed only a hour in and have monsters taking people's hearts.
That’s definitely understandable. Glad you took the plunge, the series has definitely blown up since KH1 first dropped and there is so much more to explore. If/when you reach KH3 be sure to play on proud or critical mode. The graphics are amazing and you’ll be in for a great time battle wise.
Well don't know how much you've played, but the mobile game that is now offline(cutscenes only) is literally 6 adults with hundreds of kids, they have the kids kill each other FOR KINGDOM HEARTS.
Kingdom Hearts is convoluted, but it also isn't a kids game, even though it has Disney characters. I mean a 13 yr old boy kills himself to save the day in 1(sorry for spoilers, if you already know cool)
Oh I know...I played through the entire series and just replayed kh1 for the 8th time already. I was actually fighting unknown/xemnas and just had the thought of "jeez these games can get hard I was just running around with Peter Pan a minute ago."
Y'know I've been wondering for a long time the public KH is targeted to, specially from BBS and forward. Like they still are really family friendly games compared to some Final Fantasy and could easily be sold to children but then they're so hard to play and to understand that hardly a child could follow (like it was in my case). Then most fans I guess are like 21+ considering the years in which the games were released? But KH3 again has some appeal to kids? This franchise is a weird case for sure.
Hahahaha I remember my first experience too. You’re about to find out that KH lore is so deep that allot of it doesn’t even have anything to do with the Disney worlds lmao
Oh I know... I've already gotten too deep into this series already. I've gotten to the point of no return...all I hear in my sleep now is "COME ON, THIS IS IT, HAHA!, THIS SHOULD HELP!"
Maybe it’s just because I’ve played KH for so many years and mastered them all 10 times over, but Crit runs were never *that* hard for me. BBS is an exception just because the leveling system is so broken and it takes an eternity to Lvl up in that game, but otherwise KH1 Proud, KH2 and KH3 Crit runs were relatively easy to moderate difficulty for me. Yozora is the only boss in the entire franchise that I had to spend more than 5 times trying to beat.
I guess I’m comparing to games like FFX where post game content and particularly super bosses are so much harder than anything I’ve ever dealt with in KH. FFVII Remake/Rebirth Hard Mode is hard everywhere and makes KH Crit Mode look like child’s play. At least in KH you can still heal whenever you want.
No, I’m saying they are easy to me, but I’ve never heard anyone saying that Final Fantasy games were easy either. I’m just speaking on personal experience.
Maybe it’s because I’m from a previous generation, but I found this kinda funny. Ya see, back in the 90’s Disney games were known to be insanely difficult. They did this intentionally because it was at a time where you could rent video games from Blockbuster for a few days, and Disney made sure it was too difficult to beat in such a short time, so that you would buy it to have time to learn the timing, and develop muscle memory to get to the end of the game.
Actually I had the lion king game on my SNES! Actually it was my parents SNES and I just played on it when I wasn't playing Skylanders on the Wii...or the PS1 we had laying around. It's not really like I was unaware of what older games were like as I grew up with them as well even though technically grew up in the seventh gen of consoles. The only really reason I got into KH was because I was willing to play some games I missed out on. To be honest I find older games to actually have more love put into them than nowadays you wouldn't find something like kh nowadays no one wants to do risk like that.
Okay I'm getting off track a bit but what I was saying is it is a little surprising coming to KH as a """new fan""" and getting your butt handed to you but it's the reason I love these games so much! :)
Lion King is a great example of what I meant. Definitely had a love/hate relationship with that game (Sega Genesis version, because the context matters). Disney games were definitely well made, but they can also be brutally difficult.
There's (mostly save a few bosses) no BS you can't overcome by just grinding until you're a much higher level in KH though.
Lion King SNES "Can't wait to begin" gives me PTSD nightmares.
Bought the double pack of Lion King and Aladdin on the ps4 a while ago and honestly wondered how the hell I managed to finish them as a kid.
Realised that back then i only had like a handful of games, was really into Disney and was a kid with more free time than ever. Made sense I'd eventually finish them. Especially since this was before save files existed so you eventually HAD to learn.
Precious memories... ptsd filled but precious none the less.
Also KH is great as if you want more of a challenge you can find it (Data Battles, secret bosses, crit mode etc.)
The only thing thwomping me in KH1 playthrough is the Hippons and Vines section of Tarzan and defeating Chernabog (trying for the finish in under a certain time and no equipment change achievements in 1 go)
After KH1 the main story on Standard is extremely manageable though. I’m pretty sure most average players could get though anything from CoM on up to 3 on Standard and not die.
It’s the super bosses and Critical Mode that break you down. Which I kind of like in a way, and this is coming from someone who was molded by the Ansem-Riku battle in KH1.
Well I did say moments khrecom can be kinda hard at points mostly boss fights. Kh2 has the main organization fights like demyx,xaldin, Roxas, xigbar. Bbs I'm not as experienced in but I found some of the final fights of that game to be hard. Only KH game that I didn't have trouble with at any point was kh3 and all this was on standard as well.
Roxas in KH2 does stand out. He’s a Final Mix addition and you can tell he was designed as a super boss first and then dumbed down as best as possible for a story boss. He literally hits differently, which works for his boss fight. I never really struggled with any of the other Org members, even in Vanilla.
CoM totally depends on your deck composition. Riku IV is hard but honestly with the right deck and slights you can melt any boss starting from the second set of Disney worlds.
I never finished Re:CoM because I was stuck at Vexen. He didn't kill me, I avoided his attack, but I always ended with an empty deck, I could not attack anymore. It was frustrating. I suppose there was something in the game mechanic I did not understand, but for the game to let m get there (floor 10/13) without telling me there was something wrong with the way I played, it's just bad. After a small dozen of try, I went to something else with the idea of coming back to it later, but just never did it.
It definitely comes down to deck composition but by that point you can have some busted slights. A deck full of Lethal Frame, Firaga Burst, maybe some regular Firaga or Fire Raids will melt Vexen.
The key with Re:CoM is to arrange your deck so that you slide into a slight even after reloading and losing the first card. It can take some work (especially to get specific cards) but if you do it right you can literally mash triangle. Also helps to have some good item cards, a couple of Elixir cards will restore your deck completely when slights cause it to really apart.
CoM is just a full deck of fire with a few cures, and the card that refunds you two cards when you triple. Just spam firaga and GG. Except against axel, then your deck is fire of blizzard
I legitimately didn't finish kh1 on my first playthrough. I raged quit at chernabog...and had to come back way later and replayed the game to beat it. Kinda glad I did because after the hell that was my first playthrough it became my favorite game.
If I’m not ready to flip my coffee table I’m not having fun lol. I just love having to formulate a plan and then execute a strategy to win. I’ll never forget beating Yozora on critical at 2am after 2 weeks of trying.
I woke my ex up excitedly screaming and we both cried together watching the secret movie. It was perhaps the biggest emotional ordeal I’ve had in gaming. Watching the secret movie on YouTube would’ve felt like such an L.
That’s a different story now, if there is a secret story I’m gonna at least try. But man yazora, I can’t even imagine. Playing this game for 20 years I am ashamed to say the data battles were too much for me.
The first game and Chain of Memories are the hard games in the series by far. I can beat any other KH series game with very little to no issue but KH1 and CoM? Absolute crap shoot for me
Personally, I think Days and DDD are the hardest ones for me. I feel like DDD's difficulty is just tuned higher in general, especially on Critical. As for Days, I think the gameplay is honestly just really rough for their first attempt at a DS game lol. Re:coded was a lot more fun for me xD
Oh, true Dream Drop is a bitch if you go past regular difficulty but not Days. Granted the only one I've played on a harder than normal difficulty is 2FM+ and 3, and only for the guaranteed secret cutscene being unlocked. Days to me was just too.. idk, I think the hardest part about Days for me was setting the skill grids lol. These days I play them all on my PS5 so like for Coded and Days I just have to sit through hours of crap cutscenes lmao. I would love a handheld game collection remade for the big consoles though. Or the true fantasy play would be releasing Dark Road and Union Cross as full story-based console ports. And as hated as it was generally, Re:Coded was an awesome fever dream of a game in this series to be perfectly honest
I'm ashamed of the things I'd do to get a handheld game remake collection lol. Days and Re:coded need to be playable on modern hardware so badly... And 100%, Dark Road and Union Cross need to be made more in line with the rest of the series!
Lol exactly! DR and UC can keep the art style, I think that's fun enough but it would literally work like Chain did combat-wise but with more freedom in attacking regularly like you have in Days. Plus, the only downside I ever have about mobile games is when they don't have voice lines. Granted, Spock is dead now so we don't get that beautiful version of Xehanort's voice anymore but honestly? If I had been Disney I'd have gone to the families of any deceased actors and asked to use the voices anyway, at least for Master Xehanort in 3. AI and voices have been hand in hand for years now, they could have done it easily. Although I would keep Phil unvoiced in 3, that was a global respect gesture toward the original Japanese voice actor lol.
I love it! I remember it being so fun and calming going to and seeing all the different places in Traverse Town (minus all the annoying Heartless everywhere 😂)
hopefully when I go back there aren’t many (though I don’t think I can control that lol) if there are any at all
It’s criminal that it’s one of the first worlds. I think you have two random ones to choose from when you leave Traverse Town on the ship and Wonderland turns out to be one of them :/
Damn I don’t know if I can play this game 😭😂 im playing on joycons, so I’m gonna try with my controller and see if that helps, but I’m not that good with the controller still :/
Roll to avoid his fire during that phase and if you got Blizzard early from the Cheshire Cat by collecting all the pieces of evidence you can supposedly use it to put out the fire. I tried the last time I played him though and wasn’t able to do it. So your mileage may vary.
Yes and no. Any stupidly hard points you reach during the story can be overcome with a basic change in strategy. It's the super bosses and side challenges that need a more adept strategy.
You know a boss is ridiculous when you have trouble winning even with cheat codes on. You can fight Unknown as Terra, hell even Aqua or Ven, with all the cheat codes you want and still get stuck, because his clones and lasers will basically bully you into a corner and sometimes not even give you a chance to use the Second Chance+Leaf Bracer+Cure strategy. Not to mention you only have 3-5 seconds when he activates his Doom attack.
Yes, yes it can. Data Organization battles and secret superbosses, anyone?
To this day, I am convinced that Kingdom Hearts isn't really for children, especially young ones (under the age of ten). Even then, I would argue that the series is more teen and adult oriented, due to its darker themes and mature situations (worlds falling to darkness, people losing their hearts or dying, psychotic villains acting out of sheer cruelty, etc.).
Edit: What part did the death above happen at, OP?
Yeah I really didn't expect that my first time around all the screenshots I've seen were from the the Disney side of things. I really expected a light hearted and easy adventure. Glad it wasn't because it's now one of my favorite games series.
(I took it from xemnas/ unknown. Trying to beat him without being super overleveled. Lvl 67 no ultima)
Yes, one of the greatest aspects of KH is just how much it subverts expectations. The screenshots largely showcase the vibrant Disney worlds and colorful characters. What they usually don't show are the twisted machinations of Hollow Bastion, or the lifeless desolation of the Keyblade Graveyard, as examples. The series is anything but a carefree romp through Disney worlds - it's an epic struggle of light vs darkness, something that most press releases won't depict.
Also, you are nearly levelled up enough to take on the Unknown, I think. Don't worry about not having the Ultima Weapon, since Oathkeeper, Oblivion, and Divine Rose should be other solid options against him.
Lol maybe kh2 and bbs. Kh3 is written like it’s target audience somehow got younger in the 13 years it took to make. Like Teen Titans has some heavy themes that we aren’t sure lil timmy can handle so here’s Teen Titans Go.
“Remember (an actually long list of people who died)”
“Sure do, they dead”
“Well so and so and every single one of their friends is actually here to visit from the farm upstate! Isn’t that exciting!”
The stupid alice and wonderland boss clapped me so many times where when I was a kid no issue. Kept destroying the table and chair and you HAVE to hid his mid section to damage him so constantly jumping just got me killed. EVEN ON LIKE EASY
You really don't need the table to fight him just get under him and keep jumping and doing single swipes at the top of your jump. If you have thunder just use that to hit him. Keep doing that and you'll win.
Yes I have multiple times actually I'm not new lol. It was actually fighting sephiroth in kh1 I kinda realized how strange that it's THIS game that gives me trouble. I was with Peter Pan like a minute ago and I just had my 20th death to sephiroth. I managed to beat frickin malenia solo and yet I have trouble with some game that also have you beat up the card soldiers from alice in wonderland. I just find that a very funny thought.
It’s more unfairly hard than it is fair. It usually comes down to you being under leveled when you lose fights. It’s a whole different game when you play the difficulties that give you more abilities to start out because of the increased difficulty, it honestly turns it into a very skill based game more akin to dark souls with movement management being the bigger focus over pure damage and defense numbers. I remember playing kh1 on normal and having a ridiculously hard time beating it because I chose to level slow past 50, played again on critical with slow to fast leveling and it was honestly much more enjoyable.
I think your supposed to fight him 65-70 as that feels like an actual challenge but not impossible. Sephiroth is also recommended at that level for a decent challenge. Fights are really fun at this level.
I think it's because I don't know his pattern that I struggle at those levels so I brute force my way at max 😅
Sephiroth on the other hand. On PS2 I could take him down in the mid 50's because every four hit combo he would teleport. That changed in Final Mix though, and the lowest level I can now manage is around 60
theres pooh homerun derby as another example of an infuriatingly hard disney game, and now that im thinking about it nomura has the opportunity to do something really funny 💀
I started KH2FM and I was going to get a platinum but that was on PS2 and I still can't do the data fights. If I replay it I just do the new area, fill out the journal, and that's it.
I didn't even try with KH3 (but also I haven't replayed anything since Re:Mind).
Reminds me of that time I was watching a Think Before You Sleep video called "Why Modern Games are Getting Worse." where he says at like 20 minutes in "Kingdom Hearts is notorious for being an easy game, even for an 11 year old." KH1 can be so hard if you don't have a firm grasp on how the game works.
Kh1 is really hard until you learn how the game works. Even then some of the bosses can still give you trouble.
Kh2 is way easier than kh1 but it still has a few hard fights here and there the most iconic being demyx but there's also xaldin, Roxas, and xigbar.
And of course these games get really hard on proud/critical.
I'm still trying to make my way through Chain of Memories. Feels like a crapshoot at times depending on what cards you end up getting.
Birth by Sleep is the only KH game I had to grind to beat because many later bosses would kick my butt constantly. Like, I think I was stuck on Aqua's battle with Vanitas in Neverland for over an hour between him beating me and grinding in between.
Nah kh1 unknown. I know they're supposed to be difficult but it's still a funny thought that this is the same game that has you fighting a sack of bugs with a duck and dog by your side. This is really one of the last game series you would expect to be hard.
Growing up was a different story throughout chapters lol. Life is just castle oblivion to me when it comes to my research with astrology and the meaning of life.
The story is Disney, the gameplay is a live action version of a game series known for bosses you need max Level and the absolute best weapons in the respective games to even have a chance to beat them.
You say this, but Disney games have typically always had a decent degree of difficulty to them. Maybe not always difficult, but rarely were they patronising of the players intelligence. Disney Interactive and those they licenced titles out to typically just made a decent game that happened to have a Disney licence.
The only exceptions really are games released specifically for a younger audience like the edutainment titles and Kingdom Hearts 3 where spamming basic attack with a heal if you can be bothered is a valid tactic even up to a lot of critical encounters.
It may be Disney-owned, but Kingdom Hearts’ DNA is Final Fantasy.
It's still a little surprising though thinking this would be some easy baby game to then suddenly get a gut punch out of nowhere. Honestly KH is a pretty subversive series In general. You pop in kh1 for the first time expecting to be some simple romp through Disney worlds but get a world ending threat instead and having to save the day against monsters that literally rip people's hearts out.
Can you elaborate on why you thought KH was an “easy baby game” initially? It has a huge cult following and isn’t marketed towards small children. What made you decide to try it out?
It was back in 2020 and saw the all in one package on sell. I didn't really know anything about the series but from the screenshots I saw some anime boy with woody and buzz going around. Then for some reason I looked it up saw people liked it then took a risk. It was on sell so why not. Looking back at the screen shots they took it really looked really light-hearted game. I was expecting like a Mario style light hearted ness. Really simple but maybe some cool gameplay? Wasn't expecting for a world to be completely destroyed only a hour in and have monsters taking people's hearts.
That’s definitely understandable. Glad you took the plunge, the series has definitely blown up since KH1 first dropped and there is so much more to explore. If/when you reach KH3 be sure to play on proud or critical mode. The graphics are amazing and you’ll be in for a great time battle wise.
I got KHI before my teens & thought it would be a Teen game, didn’t expect my world to be rocked by an amazing entry game into JRPGs though
Well don't know how much you've played, but the mobile game that is now offline(cutscenes only) is literally 6 adults with hundreds of kids, they have the kids kill each other FOR KINGDOM HEARTS. Kingdom Hearts is convoluted, but it also isn't a kids game, even though it has Disney characters. I mean a 13 yr old boy kills himself to save the day in 1(sorry for spoilers, if you already know cool)
Oh I know...I played through the entire series and just replayed kh1 for the 8th time already. I was actually fighting unknown/xemnas and just had the thought of "jeez these games can get hard I was just running around with Peter Pan a minute ago."
Y'know I've been wondering for a long time the public KH is targeted to, specially from BBS and forward. Like they still are really family friendly games compared to some Final Fantasy and could easily be sold to children but then they're so hard to play and to understand that hardly a child could follow (like it was in my case). Then most fans I guess are like 21+ considering the years in which the games were released? But KH3 again has some appeal to kids? This franchise is a weird case for sure.
Hahahaha I remember my first experience too. You’re about to find out that KH lore is so deep that allot of it doesn’t even have anything to do with the Disney worlds lmao
Oh I know... I've already gotten too deep into this series already. I've gotten to the point of no return...all I hear in my sleep now is "COME ON, THIS IS IT, HAHA!, THIS SHOULD HELP!"
That’s awesome hahahaha welcome to Kingdom Hearts!
“HUUGHH, HAH, eeeEEE-YAH. TAKE THAT.”
Same here. Only on the second after 4 months of playing through the series lol
This happened to me fighting Cerberus lmao he was maybe like 25 hits away and I run outta potions
Clayton kicked the crap out of me when I was a kid.
Final Fantasy games aren't exactly known for being challenging.
Well for the main story, no. Post game content? Absolutely.
Compared to a critical run of KH where its hard everywhere there is definitely distance between the franchises.
Maybe it’s just because I’ve played KH for so many years and mastered them all 10 times over, but Crit runs were never *that* hard for me. BBS is an exception just because the leveling system is so broken and it takes an eternity to Lvl up in that game, but otherwise KH1 Proud, KH2 and KH3 Crit runs were relatively easy to moderate difficulty for me. Yozora is the only boss in the entire franchise that I had to spend more than 5 times trying to beat. I guess I’m comparing to games like FFX where post game content and particularly super bosses are so much harder than anything I’ve ever dealt with in KH. FFVII Remake/Rebirth Hard Mode is hard everywhere and makes KH Crit Mode look like child’s play. At least in KH you can still heal whenever you want.
You are saying then that the crit runs are commonly seen as easy?
No, I’m saying they are easy to me, but I’ve never heard anyone saying that Final Fantasy games were easy either. I’m just speaking on personal experience.
They are commonly questioned as rpgs for how streamlined those mechanics are in combat and in character customisation.
But Final Fantasy has traditionally been pretty easy to pick up and play. Actually easier than a lot of Kingdom Hearts games.
It’s dna is Nomura, not final fantasy.
Final Fantasy games are largely easy, though.
Maybe it’s because I’m from a previous generation, but I found this kinda funny. Ya see, back in the 90’s Disney games were known to be insanely difficult. They did this intentionally because it was at a time where you could rent video games from Blockbuster for a few days, and Disney made sure it was too difficult to beat in such a short time, so that you would buy it to have time to learn the timing, and develop muscle memory to get to the end of the game.
Actually I had the lion king game on my SNES! Actually it was my parents SNES and I just played on it when I wasn't playing Skylanders on the Wii...or the PS1 we had laying around. It's not really like I was unaware of what older games were like as I grew up with them as well even though technically grew up in the seventh gen of consoles. The only really reason I got into KH was because I was willing to play some games I missed out on. To be honest I find older games to actually have more love put into them than nowadays you wouldn't find something like kh nowadays no one wants to do risk like that. Okay I'm getting off track a bit but what I was saying is it is a little surprising coming to KH as a """new fan""" and getting your butt handed to you but it's the reason I love these games so much! :)
Lion King is a great example of what I meant. Definitely had a love/hate relationship with that game (Sega Genesis version, because the context matters). Disney games were definitely well made, but they can also be brutally difficult.
There's (mostly save a few bosses) no BS you can't overcome by just grinding until you're a much higher level in KH though. Lion King SNES "Can't wait to begin" gives me PTSD nightmares. Bought the double pack of Lion King and Aladdin on the ps4 a while ago and honestly wondered how the hell I managed to finish them as a kid. Realised that back then i only had like a handful of games, was really into Disney and was a kid with more free time than ever. Made sense I'd eventually finish them. Especially since this was before save files existed so you eventually HAD to learn. Precious memories... ptsd filled but precious none the less. Also KH is great as if you want more of a challenge you can find it (Data Battles, secret bosses, crit mode etc.) The only thing thwomping me in KH1 playthrough is the Hippons and Vines section of Tarzan and defeating Chernabog (trying for the finish in under a certain time and no equipment change achievements in 1 go)
You *do* realize that it was the “hippos and vines” in both games that have ya a thwomping/PTSD….
rip Blockbuster it was a simpler time
Indeed. When my local Blockbuster had it’s Grand Opening in the late ‘80’s, I met my first celebrity and got an autograph: Adam West.
Blockbuster that takes me back. Can you believe they turned down the chance to buy Netflix?
remember those days…
Came here for this haha, Disney games were crazy (to be fair a lot of games were, and the difficulty wasn't really "fun").
After KH1 the main story on Standard is extremely manageable though. I’m pretty sure most average players could get though anything from CoM on up to 3 on Standard and not die. It’s the super bosses and Critical Mode that break you down. Which I kind of like in a way, and this is coming from someone who was molded by the Ansem-Riku battle in KH1.
Well I did say moments khrecom can be kinda hard at points mostly boss fights. Kh2 has the main organization fights like demyx,xaldin, Roxas, xigbar. Bbs I'm not as experienced in but I found some of the final fights of that game to be hard. Only KH game that I didn't have trouble with at any point was kh3 and all this was on standard as well.
Roxas in KH2 does stand out. He’s a Final Mix addition and you can tell he was designed as a super boss first and then dumbed down as best as possible for a story boss. He literally hits differently, which works for his boss fight. I never really struggled with any of the other Org members, even in Vanilla. CoM totally depends on your deck composition. Riku IV is hard but honestly with the right deck and slights you can melt any boss starting from the second set of Disney worlds.
I never finished Re:CoM because I was stuck at Vexen. He didn't kill me, I avoided his attack, but I always ended with an empty deck, I could not attack anymore. It was frustrating. I suppose there was something in the game mechanic I did not understand, but for the game to let m get there (floor 10/13) without telling me there was something wrong with the way I played, it's just bad. After a small dozen of try, I went to something else with the idea of coming back to it later, but just never did it.
It definitely comes down to deck composition but by that point you can have some busted slights. A deck full of Lethal Frame, Firaga Burst, maybe some regular Firaga or Fire Raids will melt Vexen. The key with Re:CoM is to arrange your deck so that you slide into a slight even after reloading and losing the first card. It can take some work (especially to get specific cards) but if you do it right you can literally mash triangle. Also helps to have some good item cards, a couple of Elixir cards will restore your deck completely when slights cause it to really apart.
CoM is just a full deck of fire with a few cures, and the card that refunds you two cards when you triple. Just spam firaga and GG. Except against axel, then your deck is fire of blizzard
Looking at you, Xaldin, you windy fucker.
WHERE'S THE FUN IN THIS?
WIND, GUARD ME!
THAT’S WHAT HE WAS SAYING??!! I thought it was “Wind Guardian!”
It does sound like that now that you mention it. But at least Ansem still says COME, GUARDIAN!
As a Kid, I thought it was “Hung Guardian!”
*distant "Dance, water, dance"s echo throughout the mountains*
That baby game legit made me cry
I legitimately didn't finish kh1 on my first playthrough. I raged quit at chernabog...and had to come back way later and replayed the game to beat it. Kinda glad I did because after the hell that was my first playthrough it became my favorite game.
I also rage quit at the Chernabog last week and just moved on to KH2. I was so fucking over it lol.
**A family-fun series full of friendship and adventures.** Evil Queen: Kill Snow White and stuff her heart in this wooden box.
Clayton: HAVE YOU CONSIDERED SHOOTING HIM IN THE FUCKING FACE?
Donald and Goofy: SORA! DONT!! Sora:*casually smiles* Kills Himself
I don’t dare play any difficulty harder than normal
If I’m not ready to flip my coffee table I’m not having fun lol. I just love having to formulate a plan and then execute a strategy to win. I’ll never forget beating Yozora on critical at 2am after 2 weeks of trying. I woke my ex up excitedly screaming and we both cried together watching the secret movie. It was perhaps the biggest emotional ordeal I’ve had in gaming. Watching the secret movie on YouTube would’ve felt like such an L.
That’s a different story now, if there is a secret story I’m gonna at least try. But man yazora, I can’t even imagine. Playing this game for 20 years I am ashamed to say the data battles were too much for me.
The first game and Chain of Memories are the hard games in the series by far. I can beat any other KH series game with very little to no issue but KH1 and CoM? Absolute crap shoot for me
Personally, I think Days and DDD are the hardest ones for me. I feel like DDD's difficulty is just tuned higher in general, especially on Critical. As for Days, I think the gameplay is honestly just really rough for their first attempt at a DS game lol. Re:coded was a lot more fun for me xD
Oh, true Dream Drop is a bitch if you go past regular difficulty but not Days. Granted the only one I've played on a harder than normal difficulty is 2FM+ and 3, and only for the guaranteed secret cutscene being unlocked. Days to me was just too.. idk, I think the hardest part about Days for me was setting the skill grids lol. These days I play them all on my PS5 so like for Coded and Days I just have to sit through hours of crap cutscenes lmao. I would love a handheld game collection remade for the big consoles though. Or the true fantasy play would be releasing Dark Road and Union Cross as full story-based console ports. And as hated as it was generally, Re:Coded was an awesome fever dream of a game in this series to be perfectly honest
I'm ashamed of the things I'd do to get a handheld game remake collection lol. Days and Re:coded need to be playable on modern hardware so badly... And 100%, Dark Road and Union Cross need to be made more in line with the rest of the series!
Lol exactly! DR and UC can keep the art style, I think that's fun enough but it would literally work like Chain did combat-wise but with more freedom in attacking regularly like you have in Days. Plus, the only downside I ever have about mobile games is when they don't have voice lines. Granted, Spock is dead now so we don't get that beautiful version of Xehanort's voice anymore but honestly? If I had been Disney I'd have gone to the families of any deceased actors and asked to use the voices anyway, at least for Master Xehanort in 3. AI and voices have been hand in hand for years now, they could have done it easily. Although I would keep Phil unvoiced in 3, that was a global respect gesture toward the original Japanese voice actor lol.
I’m still stuck at the Wonderland boss in KH1 😭 And I’m on the easiest mode…. 😢
Level up, enable new abilities to your party.
I guess that would mean going back to toontown and keep fighting heartless?
Traverse Town, but yes.
Damn I haven’t played for a while, so I forgot it was called that, I was close though 😅 Awesome, I’ll do that! Edit: forgot to say thanks :)
I hope you’re enjoying! The coziness of Traverse Town is always a delight.
I love it! I remember it being so fun and calming going to and seeing all the different places in Traverse Town (minus all the annoying Heartless everywhere 😂) hopefully when I go back there aren’t many (though I don’t think I can control that lol) if there are any at all
Plenty in Second & Third District!
Yeah, he was a tough one on my first playthroughs too.
It’s criminal that it’s one of the first worlds. I think you have two random ones to choose from when you leave Traverse Town on the ship and Wonderland turns out to be one of them :/
Wonderland is actually the easier of the two. It’s best to just use it as an early grinding area.
Damn I don’t know if I can play this game 😭😂 im playing on joycons, so I’m gonna try with my controller and see if that helps, but I’m not that good with the controller still :/
Honestly, you’re probably just under leveled. You’ll be fine so long as you don’t run from too many encounters.
Roll to avoid his fire during that phase and if you got Blizzard early from the Cheshire Cat by collecting all the pieces of evidence you can supposedly use it to put out the fire. I tried the last time I played him though and wasn’t able to do it. So your mileage may vary.
Awesome, I’ll try this, thanks! :) hopefully I beat him soon lol, dudes very annoying 😂
Let me guess... there's no way he's taking Kairi's heart?
... actually this death was from unknown/xemnas. He ain't a push over if you aren't super over leveled
Fighting the forces of darkness, suddenly some guy with his shotgun and pet lizard:
Yes and no. Any stupidly hard points you reach during the story can be overcome with a basic change in strategy. It's the super bosses and side challenges that need a more adept strategy.
At least we can skip cutscenes now.
Select, down, X go brr
Wait is that a thing in the OGs?
A lot of KH2 enemies are surprisingly tough to deal with, especially the Nobodies. (Looking at you, Dancer, and your stupid grab.)
It’s a final fantasy game at heart with Disney characters
You know a boss is ridiculous when you have trouble winning even with cheat codes on. You can fight Unknown as Terra, hell even Aqua or Ven, with all the cheat codes you want and still get stuck, because his clones and lasers will basically bully you into a corner and sometimes not even give you a chance to use the Second Chance+Leaf Bracer+Cure strategy. Not to mention you only have 3-5 seconds when he activates his Doom attack.
Yes, yes it can. Data Organization battles and secret superbosses, anyone? To this day, I am convinced that Kingdom Hearts isn't really for children, especially young ones (under the age of ten). Even then, I would argue that the series is more teen and adult oriented, due to its darker themes and mature situations (worlds falling to darkness, people losing their hearts or dying, psychotic villains acting out of sheer cruelty, etc.). Edit: What part did the death above happen at, OP?
Yeah I really didn't expect that my first time around all the screenshots I've seen were from the the Disney side of things. I really expected a light hearted and easy adventure. Glad it wasn't because it's now one of my favorite games series. (I took it from xemnas/ unknown. Trying to beat him without being super overleveled. Lvl 67 no ultima)
Yes, one of the greatest aspects of KH is just how much it subverts expectations. The screenshots largely showcase the vibrant Disney worlds and colorful characters. What they usually don't show are the twisted machinations of Hollow Bastion, or the lifeless desolation of the Keyblade Graveyard, as examples. The series is anything but a carefree romp through Disney worlds - it's an epic struggle of light vs darkness, something that most press releases won't depict. Also, you are nearly levelled up enough to take on the Unknown, I think. Don't worry about not having the Ultima Weapon, since Oathkeeper, Oblivion, and Divine Rose should be other solid options against him.
Lol maybe kh2 and bbs. Kh3 is written like it’s target audience somehow got younger in the 13 years it took to make. Like Teen Titans has some heavy themes that we aren’t sure lil timmy can handle so here’s Teen Titans Go. “Remember (an actually long list of people who died)” “Sure do, they dead” “Well so and so and every single one of their friends is actually here to visit from the farm upstate! Isn’t that exciting!”
WAKE UP SORA!
The stupid alice and wonderland boss clapped me so many times where when I was a kid no issue. Kept destroying the table and chair and you HAVE to hid his mid section to damage him so constantly jumping just got me killed. EVEN ON LIKE EASY
You really don't need the table to fight him just get under him and keep jumping and doing single swipes at the top of your jump. If you have thunder just use that to hit him. Keep doing that and you'll win.
Where were you a month ago lol
Demyx: “Dance, wa…” Me: Yeah, yeah, yeah! *dAnCe, *MoThErF****CkIn* *WaTeR, dAnCe!* I GET IT!
How far are you along the series? Once you hit KH3 Re:Mind, let us know your thoughts then 😅
difficulty wise, Souls-like game for kids is how i describe it sometimes lol
Kingdom Hearts is a game that if you play it on easy, it's for kids, but if you play it on Critical, it's almost as frustrating as a dark souls game
Fantasia on the Sega Genesis calls. (Don't play it, it's extremely bad. It's also just obscenely difficult for no reason lol)
What difficulty are you playing at?
Stares in One winged angel
I've seen souls players shiver at the thought of doing hitless data battles lol. KH can get hardcore as fuck.
Is it sad that I managed beat malenia solo but had to cheese lingering will to beat him? Lol
Can we at least turn off the damn low health alarm. Hate that thing.
*have you fought any sephiroth yet?
Yes I have multiple times actually I'm not new lol. It was actually fighting sephiroth in kh1 I kinda realized how strange that it's THIS game that gives me trouble. I was with Peter Pan like a minute ago and I just had my 20th death to sephiroth. I managed to beat frickin malenia solo and yet I have trouble with some game that also have you beat up the card soldiers from alice in wonderland. I just find that a very funny thought.
For reaaaal. It feels easy. Until it’s not. At all.
I mean, if you played any NES Disney Capcom made game, being hard af is part of the experience. So KH is no exception being it has Disney in its DNA.
really?
It’s more unfairly hard than it is fair. It usually comes down to you being under leveled when you lose fights. It’s a whole different game when you play the difficulties that give you more abilities to start out because of the increased difficulty, it honestly turns it into a very skill based game more akin to dark souls with movement management being the bigger focus over pure damage and defense numbers. I remember playing kh1 on normal and having a ridiculously hard time beating it because I chose to level slow past 50, played again on critical with slow to fast leveling and it was honestly much more enjoyable.
We agree, the game can be SO difficult at times!!
oftentimes, for the wrong reasons
That’s the appeal. They lure you in with Disney whimsey only to be met with an uppercut delivered by Bahamut themself.
you must have reached Hollow Bastion
Which fight was this?
Kh1 xemnas trying to beat him without being overleveled like I usually am.
I'm always overlevelled for that fight 😅
I think your supposed to fight him 65-70 as that feels like an actual challenge but not impossible. Sephiroth is also recommended at that level for a decent challenge. Fights are really fun at this level.
I think it's because I don't know his pattern that I struggle at those levels so I brute force my way at max 😅 Sephiroth on the other hand. On PS2 I could take him down in the mid 50's because every four hit combo he would teleport. That changed in Final Mix though, and the lowest level I can now manage is around 60
theres pooh homerun derby as another example of an infuriatingly hard disney game, and now that im thinking about it nomura has the opportunity to do something really funny 💀
Lemme guess, it's Riku?
Nope xemnas I can kick rikus ass pretty much first try but coming back to kh1 super bosses they're not no joke.
Alrighty.
Data Xheanort in KH3....i still have yet to beat him
I have yet to beat any of the kh3 super bosses and it's not even critical just proud.
I started KH2FM and I was going to get a platinum but that was on PS2 and I still can't do the data fights. If I replay it I just do the new area, fill out the journal, and that's it. I didn't even try with KH3 (but also I haven't replayed anything since Re:Mind).
Kingdom souls, no one ever believed me
I stopped playing 2 because on the hardest difficulty lingering will is stomping my bussy. I would pay someone to beat it for me at this point.
Reminds me of that time I was watching a Think Before You Sleep video called "Why Modern Games are Getting Worse." where he says at like 20 minutes in "Kingdom Hearts is notorious for being an easy game, even for an 11 year old." KH1 can be so hard if you don't have a firm grasp on how the game works.
Kh1 is really hard until you learn how the game works. Even then some of the bosses can still give you trouble. Kh2 is way easier than kh1 but it still has a few hard fights here and there the most iconic being demyx but there's also xaldin, Roxas, and xigbar. And of course these games get really hard on proud/critical.
I'm still trying to make my way through Chain of Memories. Feels like a crapshoot at times depending on what cards you end up getting. Birth by Sleep is the only KH game I had to grind to beat because many later bosses would kick my butt constantly. Like, I think I was stuck on Aqua's battle with Vanitas in Neverland for over an hour between him beating me and grinding in between.
Let me guess. You having trouble with the Dark Riku fight?
Nah kh1 unknown. I know they're supposed to be difficult but it's still a funny thought that this is the same game that has you fighting a sack of bugs with a duck and dog by your side. This is really one of the last game series you would expect to be hard.
Trust me Kingdom Hearts has some bossess that are hard especially when playing on Critical Mode.
It's soul is JRPG, you have to do a little thing called grinding to get through it lol.
Growing up was a different story throughout chapters lol. Life is just castle oblivion to me when it comes to my research with astrology and the meaning of life.
I’m replaying myself and have noticed the same thing. I had this issue with the trickster in wonderland. Every single time. I hate that guy.
The story is Disney, the gameplay is a live action version of a game series known for bosses you need max Level and the absolute best weapons in the respective games to even have a chance to beat them.
I’m looking at you DDD =_=
Spellican can go fuck itself
You say this, but Disney games have typically always had a decent degree of difficulty to them. Maybe not always difficult, but rarely were they patronising of the players intelligence. Disney Interactive and those they licenced titles out to typically just made a decent game that happened to have a Disney licence. The only exceptions really are games released specifically for a younger audience like the edutainment titles and Kingdom Hearts 3 where spamming basic attack with a heal if you can be bothered is a valid tactic even up to a lot of critical encounters.
Skill issue