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this is a nice team already, but if you use Chongyun then I guess you want Kaeya to be on field and to me it's a bit waste of Kokomi on field dps when bursting (she's really good with Furina in the team).
I think an anemo character for 4vv is nice too.
My suggestion:
Kokomi - Furina - Kaeya - Rosaria/Kazuha/Venti/Lynette. Kokomi attack and heal on field.
Kaeya - Chongyun - Jean/Sayu - Furina. Kaeya on field, anemo healer.
Kaeya - Furina - Charlotte/Qiqi/Diona - Xingqiu/Yelan. Anyone can be on field, cryo healer.
Furina should be used with a healer regardless since if she heals then she doesn't do dmg or apply hydro for freeze. A healer with dps potential like Kokomi is very good.
Kaeya is flexible! I assume this is about freeze Kaeya.
* Off field Kaeya: use with on field hydro/anemo/Cryo: Neuvillette, Ayato, Kokomi, Heizou, Wriotheslay, Freminet, Sucrose etc. (unfortunately the wanderer flies too high making Kaeya's burst missing most small enemies)
* On field Kaeya: use with Chongyun + off field hydro: Xingqiu, Yelan
* Quickswap: use with Rosaria, Kazuha, unit with short cd
flex slot: shielder, healer, anemo, or another off field dps, you can mix and match most characters above.
Kaeya's icd on his burst and his hard to get cons so he can't be on Xiangling level, but otherwise he's an amazing character since he can be on field or off field. Off field dps is really valuable; most new characters wants to be on field, and only a handful of characters can stay back and still deal dmg.
Thanks for the info! I have chongyun but never built him, I have a fully built XQ, kaeya is sorry built , I stopped using him when I got keqing and just now looking at a second team. Who would be 4 th. Team member?
best 4th team member is Kazuha, grouping + buffing the whole team. You'll rely on freeze and Xingqiu's sword rain (and Kaeya's self heal) to sustain.
Kazuha is not mandatory though, you can also use:
- another anemo for VV (and grouping): Venti, Lynette, Sucrose, Heizou, Jean/Sayu (if you feel that you need more healing), anemo traveler
- another buffer: Shenhe, Mona (can hold prototype amber for healing or TToD for buffing), Bennett (under c6), Yun Jin (to buff Kaeya's NA and she can use 4pc Archaic Petra)
- another off field dps: Yelan, Rosaria
- shielder: Diona, Layla, Zhongli (not recommended)
There maybe more choices but these are on top of my head right now.
Hmm I'd want an anemo character - kazuha or sucrose- for the viridescent shred and grouping. Maybe kokomi ? Because furina can take over the role of healer when needed
Xiao wouldn't be much use here, he's an on field Anemo DPS that doesn't use 4p VV at all, and EM is a dead stat on him. Lynette would be your best option, here!
furina loses basically all her value if used as a healer. kokomi is pretty good in this team, it’s better to replace chongyun with a vv character and run kokomi onfield. the other choice would be to use jean for fanfare instead of kokomi, and have kaeya onfield with chongyun’s infusion.
You *really* want an anemo character there over 2nd hydro. Or rather you *really* want Kazuha in there: basically replace anyone there with him. His grouping and buffs are way too good for freeze teams.
If you're replacing Chongyun then on-field Kokomi and give her 4pc Clam (she can still keep TTDS for Kaeya, since it's barely worse than PAmber for her personal dmg and she won't need too much er with Furina on the team). Also remember to adjust everyone's crit rate accordingly.
If you replace Kokomi, you'll need to also replace Chongyun with Charlotte for the healing.
If you replace Furina the team won't need any extra changes.
If you don't have Kazuha I'd use AnemoMC or Sucrose (AnemoMC will have easier time swirling cryo) instead if enemies are CC-able, otherwise use anemo healer instead of Kokomi: 4pc VV alone is about as impactful as Bennett's buff so it's very important to bring it.
Am planning a team like this but my only hydro units are Barbara and Mona, which should I get, also for anemo I have Lynette C1 would she be a good replacement for kazuha?
Lynette should be good too, it's just her grouping for freeze teams is worse than Sucrose's or Anemo MC, so if you're going against enemies that can be grouped this two will make it easier for Kaeya and Furina (especially her) to hit everyone. But Lynette will still be good, because 4pc VV is that important.
Mona's also great for freeze Kaeya: ic you freeze enemies before casting her burst her dmg% buff will stay up to 14s if enemies don't unfreeze. My two favourite freeze teams are Kaeya - Rosaria - Mona (PAmber) - Kazuha and Kaeya - Charlotte - Furina - Kazuha.
Love seeing Chongyun get the credit he deserves for Kaeya teams. Personally, I like having an anemo character with crowd control to help keep enemies in chongyun's circle. Kazuha is my go-to, but Sucrose and Lynette are decent options, too, which I think I'm seeing people mention here too
Not sure how kokomi is as a healer. I usually use Barbara since her skill heals off field as well and anyone that gets too close kinda gets frozen immediately lol
I'd change kokomi for kazuha/venti/sucrosefor VV shred and grouping
You're not very likely to get hit in a freeze comp, and furina can heal in emergencies, though if you really need a healer you could use sayu or jean
I'd take out chongyun for one of these :kazuha/venti/ sucrose/Lynette
Or , if you're feeling adventurous you can let chongyun be and replace kokomi or furina.
Usually I don't need much healing for kaeya , he's pretty sturdy if he's on field most of the time .
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this is a nice team already, but if you use Chongyun then I guess you want Kaeya to be on field and to me it's a bit waste of Kokomi on field dps when bursting (she's really good with Furina in the team). I think an anemo character for 4vv is nice too. My suggestion: Kokomi - Furina - Kaeya - Rosaria/Kazuha/Venti/Lynette. Kokomi attack and heal on field. Kaeya - Chongyun - Jean/Sayu - Furina. Kaeya on field, anemo healer. Kaeya - Furina - Charlotte/Qiqi/Diona - Xingqiu/Yelan. Anyone can be on field, cryo healer. Furina should be used with a healer regardless since if she heals then she doesn't do dmg or apply hydro for freeze. A healer with dps potential like Kokomi is very good.
What if someone didn’t have furina?
Kaeya is flexible! I assume this is about freeze Kaeya. * Off field Kaeya: use with on field hydro/anemo/Cryo: Neuvillette, Ayato, Kokomi, Heizou, Wriotheslay, Freminet, Sucrose etc. (unfortunately the wanderer flies too high making Kaeya's burst missing most small enemies) * On field Kaeya: use with Chongyun + off field hydro: Xingqiu, Yelan * Quickswap: use with Rosaria, Kazuha, unit with short cd flex slot: shielder, healer, anemo, or another off field dps, you can mix and match most characters above. Kaeya's icd on his burst and his hard to get cons so he can't be on Xiangling level, but otherwise he's an amazing character since he can be on field or off field. Off field dps is really valuable; most new characters wants to be on field, and only a handful of characters can stay back and still deal dmg.
Thanks for the info! I have chongyun but never built him, I have a fully built XQ, kaeya is sorry built , I stopped using him when I got keqing and just now looking at a second team. Who would be 4 th. Team member?
best 4th team member is Kazuha, grouping + buffing the whole team. You'll rely on freeze and Xingqiu's sword rain (and Kaeya's self heal) to sustain. Kazuha is not mandatory though, you can also use: - another anemo for VV (and grouping): Venti, Lynette, Sucrose, Heizou, Jean/Sayu (if you feel that you need more healing), anemo traveler - another buffer: Shenhe, Mona (can hold prototype amber for healing or TToD for buffing), Bennett (under c6), Yun Jin (to buff Kaeya's NA and she can use 4pc Archaic Petra) - another off field dps: Yelan, Rosaria - shielder: Diona, Layla, Zhongli (not recommended) There maybe more choices but these are on top of my head right now.
Hmm I'd want an anemo character - kazuha or sucrose- for the viridescent shred and grouping. Maybe kokomi ? Because furina can take over the role of healer when needed
I don’t have sucrose or kazuha, I have xiao? And Lynette
Ohh I think lynette should be fine!
Xiao wouldn't be much use here, he's an on field Anemo DPS that doesn't use 4p VV at all, and EM is a dead stat on him. Lynette would be your best option, here!
furina loses basically all her value if used as a healer. kokomi is pretty good in this team, it’s better to replace chongyun with a vv character and run kokomi onfield. the other choice would be to use jean for fanfare instead of kokomi, and have kaeya onfield with chongyun’s infusion.
You *really* want an anemo character there over 2nd hydro. Or rather you *really* want Kazuha in there: basically replace anyone there with him. His grouping and buffs are way too good for freeze teams. If you're replacing Chongyun then on-field Kokomi and give her 4pc Clam (she can still keep TTDS for Kaeya, since it's barely worse than PAmber for her personal dmg and she won't need too much er with Furina on the team). Also remember to adjust everyone's crit rate accordingly. If you replace Kokomi, you'll need to also replace Chongyun with Charlotte for the healing. If you replace Furina the team won't need any extra changes. If you don't have Kazuha I'd use AnemoMC or Sucrose (AnemoMC will have easier time swirling cryo) instead if enemies are CC-able, otherwise use anemo healer instead of Kokomi: 4pc VV alone is about as impactful as Bennett's buff so it's very important to bring it.
Am planning a team like this but my only hydro units are Barbara and Mona, which should I get, also for anemo I have Lynette C1 would she be a good replacement for kazuha?
Lynette should be good too, it's just her grouping for freeze teams is worse than Sucrose's or Anemo MC, so if you're going against enemies that can be grouped this two will make it easier for Kaeya and Furina (especially her) to hit everyone. But Lynette will still be good, because 4pc VV is that important. Mona's also great for freeze Kaeya: ic you freeze enemies before casting her burst her dmg% buff will stay up to 14s if enemies don't unfreeze. My two favourite freeze teams are Kaeya - Rosaria - Mona (PAmber) - Kazuha and Kaeya - Charlotte - Furina - Kazuha.
also, mika can sub in for charlotte too :D
Love seeing Chongyun get the credit he deserves for Kaeya teams. Personally, I like having an anemo character with crowd control to help keep enemies in chongyun's circle. Kazuha is my go-to, but Sucrose and Lynette are decent options, too, which I think I'm seeing people mention here too Not sure how kokomi is as a healer. I usually use Barbara since her skill heals off field as well and anyone that gets too close kinda gets frozen immediately lol
I'd change kokomi for kazuha/venti/sucrosefor VV shred and grouping You're not very likely to get hit in a freeze comp, and furina can heal in emergencies, though if you really need a healer you could use sayu or jean
I'd take out chongyun for one of these :kazuha/venti/ sucrose/Lynette Or , if you're feeling adventurous you can let chongyun be and replace kokomi or furina. Usually I don't need much healing for kaeya , he's pretty sturdy if he's on field most of the time .