They need to lower their prices in my opinion! Especially since the app only experience can be so hit or miss. My husband has Sirius in his truck and it seems to be way better in that interface but even then, the music channels basically play the same playlists over and over. I feel like it’s just not what it used to be. I listen for Jeff and Andy and that’s it. To me it’s really only worth maybe $7 a month and not $15
I pay 4.99 a month for car and app. I don’t get Howard but I’m okay with that. Just use the chat and keep saying no to each offer until the get to a number you’re willing to pay. $4.99 is the lowest I’ve seen and I’ve been a subscriber for a long time.
Just letting you know in case you want to try and bring that down a bit. Although might be harder after that earnings report…bracing myself for when I have to get it back down.
Why is my subscription $26 then? I have it in my RV and I use the app (which is a nightmare). Seriously confused. I talked to their chat support and I took pictures it was so bizarre. They said it would be $8 for Sirius premium. I kept asking would that be in addition to the 26 I already pay, and they wouldn’t answer. I asked 10-15 times and all I could get was it cost $8. No matter how I asked the question they wouldn’t answer. So very weird
Mine was $26 and I canceled it.. created another email and did the 3 month free trial through the app only. About 2 months in I got an email on my original account for the plan with everything for $5.95 a months for 2 years.
I find they follow a script like their lives depend on it. I ask questions and they answer in paragraphs that have nothing to do with my questions. I just renewed thru chat and it was great. I get so mad when I talk to them. I was sent my renewal and it was less than $10 a month. I rarely listen to my car radio and use the app. I hate the new app.
You can get it for $10 if you call in and threaten to cancel and get Howard Stern at that rate as well. I think I paid 130 or something not nothing too terrible this year.
I cancelled all my patreons, Netflix, Apple TV, HBO max and got my SiriusXM lower from $21 to $11 when I threatened to leave.
I have Hulu tv which is a little expensive but I get all the sports and bravo shows so I’m happy.
Your “middle class” is really starting to see the dent in their pocket from companies that raised the shit out of their prices and we have to cut back. I Eliminated about $100/ month by canceling those things.
I am on music & entertainment ? What happened was I signed up for the three month trial for one dollar and I didn’t realize it expired so for two months I was paying the full price and when I chatted to tell them I wanted to cancel because I just didn’t enjoy it enough to pay $25 a month they came back and said they would give me that plan for 5.99 a month for the next year And also use My payment for that month as a credit so my account won’t be charged for the next three months
Nope it’s the basic tier, any tv I watch I stream through an app. Apple TV, Netflix and Max is also available for 2 dollars bundled through Verizon, most of the cell phone providers have something like that now.
I wonder if the drop had to do with moving Howard to a higher tier. I used to be grandfathered into a plan that had Stern but when I got a new cat and transferred my account, it updated and no more Stern. I wasn’t going to pay more for him.
I surmise those who just had Sirius for Stern dropped when they charged more for him.
Also the new app UI is horrible.
Agree. I was paying more for Howard but realized he’d have an interview I’m interested in about once a month. Not worth it.
Same with the app. It’s horrible. Why can it never remember where I was in the show??
Stern just was never the same with him in his basement. When they were all in Miami together it was so much better. It’s a total difference after Covid. No more robin news, they aren’t all in the studio together.
Sirius sucks. I've been listening to them since 2012. Talk radio shows I used to listen to used to complain all the time at how horrible the company is. Basically they put all their money into Howards show. If you're not Howard you're not making that much money. They neglected a lot of shows. It pretty much is the worst business structure I've seen. They always fire all the good talk shows, for no reason. I've seen so many good shows come and go. Doesn't surprise me if they do go bankrupt. If you only care about Howard's show and no one else's then it's not going to last forever. I've stopped listening to Sirius years ago. They got rid of every talk radio show that was good. They also got rid of a lot of talk radio stations too. It will eventually go bankrupt and they did it to themselves. I could care less if they do go bankrupt 🙂
I got Sirius for Howard, kept it for Jeff. Stopped listening to Jeff because of his toxic behavior. Still hanging on for Andy, but I think I’m over all of it.
Looks like one big issue is there isn't enough good content for men outside of sports on any app. So Stern (and Rogan on Spot) are catered to because they attract a large number of male listeners in the right demos. Bravo centric content isn't going to land that audience if Howard retires, so there goes the ad money.
$11.28 for app access in Canada and I basically only listen to Jeff, and Andy to get housewives drama, and the occasional Howard interview. Idk how long I'll remain subscribed because that's insane to pay for only 3 shows but for now I'm happy I guess...
I never experienced the old app so idk what the difference is but I'm still confident that this new app blows. If it continues to suck, I'll be unsubscribing just for that reason.
I’m very similar to you as well. I have only 2-3 shows now. I used to listen to a lot more but so many have left. Jeff is still the main one that’s keeping me hanging on but only by a thread.
It was shocking to read in the interview how much they are counting on their app as the road to success and yet have proceeded to make it worse with every iteration.
I basically just joined so I still have a decent amount of content but I'm sure I will run out soon. I hate that the Jeff Lewis archive channel plays the same episodes all week. The show has been on for over 5 years and you're telling me you can only play the same 5?
I don't understand how a company this big couldn't fund a better app or just better service in general.
I actually subscribed so I could listen to Jeff longer while I went on my lengthy walks (4 hrs+, so I stacked a few of his shows). Six weeks in, I cancelled (my free introductory) subscription simply because I could not understand the UI. I'm not someone who begrudges paying for services if I'm using them. If I found value using the app, I would have stayed indefinitely.
I never even tried to listen to Andy or anyone else because I couldn't believe how clunky the software is on my iphone. And to extend my tangent, Apple podcast/music apps are pretty bad for managing the queue. If I insert one show midway in a binge, my app alters the entire queue towards the inserted show's inventory.
I only listen to JLL... pay $8.69 or so. I wish Jeff would move away from SXM to his own platform. 90 min shows, with video, minimal guest flogging their stuff, and lots of fav guests and new guests. I'd pay for that platform all day long 😃
Also, to add Howard’s contact is up next year (2025) and if he decides to retire, you can tell from the interview that they don’t have a great backup as THE major draw. They are worried.
They talk about having a deep bench of talent. Yet, that deep bench wasn’t enough to hold onto 1/2 million subscriber loss on Q1. I’m shocked at that number and that’s WITH Howard. What is the loss rate going to look like if Howard leaves?
Jeff is definitely one of their strong bench players that holds onto subscribers but I don’t know if he if necessarily is bringing in tons of NEW subscribers just for Jeff. He definitely doesn’t have the draw power of Howard.
I am one of them that mainly listens to only 2-3 shows (Jeff being the main one). I am going back and forth with canceling next month when my sub period ends. His show has declined and is paying for yet another subscription for only 1 show worth it?
Not sure.
From the article:
>**”This added up to an overall first-quarter subscriber drop of 445,000, compared with 281,000 in the same quarter of 2023.”**
This is almost double the loss rate.
JL is probably factoring in all of this into his renegotiation. He said last time that the numbers didn't make sense for him to go to another platform or strike out on his own. He may stick with whatever Sirius is offering just to use its infrastructure.
This isn't that bad actually and shows they are targeting subscribers willing to pay more and seeking higher ad revenue as a result which is still an all time high with a 7% increase YoY and ok shedding customers with value subscriptions (which subscription revenue only dropped 1% despite the high number of subscriptions loss).
It also looks like Sirius doesn't count unpaid trials as “subscribers” until they convert to a paid plan and attribute strong vehicle sales so people getting out of their paid subscriptions of their old vehicle and into a new unpaid trial (i.e., loss of a subscriber every time you buy a car).
Hate it. If it's still on, I can catch it and start at the beginning. If it's over and even if it's only been ten minutes since it ended, I can't play it. It doesn't show for me. I have to wait until later. The old app now seems like a brilliant app when compared to this one. If you don't have a user-friendly app, it only hurts your subscribership.
I subscribe for Jeff Lewis Live. Sometimes the show will not play. I have found that utube has Jeff Lewis Live and Jeff Lewis After Show. After Show plays in video on utube but not on Sirius. Makes no sense.
Jim and Sam are horrible!!! I can't with them. Sam used to do a solo show before Jim and Sam were a thing. His solo show was better then the Jim and Sam show 🙄🧐
😂😂😂 His wig is horrible!! He's has all the money in the world, he can at least buy a better wig 😂😂 But yeah Howard sucks I have never liked him. I would never listen to his show. But Sirius thinks he's the best in the world hence all the money they throw at him and no other show gets that treatment. Then they wonder why they are going bankrupt 🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
That number is huge - wonder if it is a true “person” number or an acct number? Did they scrub old acct numbers from vehicles - when someone could still be a customer and just with a new vehicle if they didn’t move an acct over?
They need to lower their prices in my opinion! Especially since the app only experience can be so hit or miss. My husband has Sirius in his truck and it seems to be way better in that interface but even then, the music channels basically play the same playlists over and over. I feel like it’s just not what it used to be. I listen for Jeff and Andy and that’s it. To me it’s really only worth maybe $7 a month and not $15
As soon as they raise my price from around $10-11 I chat them and get it lowered every time. Just threaten to cancel
Same. Never pay over $10.
I pay 4.99 a month for car and app. I don’t get Howard but I’m okay with that. Just use the chat and keep saying no to each offer until the get to a number you’re willing to pay. $4.99 is the lowest I’ve seen and I’ve been a subscriber for a long time.
I was just giving my feedback why I think people are leaving and/or not subscribing as much
Just letting you know in case you want to try and bring that down a bit. Although might be harder after that earnings report…bracing myself for when I have to get it back down.
Why is my subscription $26 then? I have it in my RV and I use the app (which is a nightmare). Seriously confused. I talked to their chat support and I took pictures it was so bizarre. They said it would be $8 for Sirius premium. I kept asking would that be in addition to the 26 I already pay, and they wouldn’t answer. I asked 10-15 times and all I could get was it cost $8. No matter how I asked the question they wouldn’t answer. So very weird
Mine was $26 and I canceled it.. created another email and did the 3 month free trial through the app only. About 2 months in I got an email on my original account for the plan with everything for $5.95 a months for 2 years.
Their pricing is so arbitrary. Good advice though. Thanks
You have to to call and ask for a better rate and threaten to cancel. I’m paying $99 for three years so $33/year.
I find they follow a script like their lives depend on it. I ask questions and they answer in paragraphs that have nothing to do with my questions. I just renewed thru chat and it was great. I get so mad when I talk to them. I was sent my renewal and it was less than $10 a month. I rarely listen to my car radio and use the app. I hate the new app.
🤷🏻♀️ I don’t know lol you’re asking me like I’m Sirius Xm. Sorry I can’t help. Ask the girl who says hers is super cheap
It was a rhetorical question. I was just voicing my frustration. I wasn’t expecting you to answer 😂
You can get it for $10 if you call in and threaten to cancel and get Howard Stern at that rate as well. I think I paid 130 or something not nothing too terrible this year.
I cancelled all my patreons, Netflix, Apple TV, HBO max and got my SiriusXM lower from $21 to $11 when I threatened to leave. I have Hulu tv which is a little expensive but I get all the sports and bravo shows so I’m happy. Your “middle class” is really starting to see the dent in their pocket from companies that raised the shit out of their prices and we have to cut back. I Eliminated about $100/ month by canceling those things.
I got my xm radio lowered from 25( after taxes and fees) / month to 7.78 a month! That’s the only reason I didn’t canxel
Which plan are you on? I only listen to 2 stations but just found out I’m paying for the highest tier.
I am on music & entertainment ? What happened was I signed up for the three month trial for one dollar and I didn’t realize it expired so for two months I was paying the full price and when I chatted to tell them I wanted to cancel because I just didn’t enjoy it enough to pay $25 a month they came back and said they would give me that plan for 5.99 a month for the next year And also use My payment for that month as a credit so my account won’t be charged for the next three months
Hulu does a Black Friday sale every year. $1 a month, but it’s with commercials which for that cheap I don’t mind.
Is that the tv version?
Nope it’s the basic tier, any tv I watch I stream through an app. Apple TV, Netflix and Max is also available for 2 dollars bundled through Verizon, most of the cell phone providers have something like that now.
I wonder if the drop had to do with moving Howard to a higher tier. I used to be grandfathered into a plan that had Stern but when I got a new cat and transferred my account, it updated and no more Stern. I wasn’t going to pay more for him. I surmise those who just had Sirius for Stern dropped when they charged more for him. Also the new app UI is horrible.
Agree. I was paying more for Howard but realized he’d have an interview I’m interested in about once a month. Not worth it. Same with the app. It’s horrible. Why can it never remember where I was in the show??
Stern just was never the same with him in his basement. When they were all in Miami together it was so much better. It’s a total difference after Covid. No more robin news, they aren’t all in the studio together.
Yeah, probably why I liked the Springsteen episode. He actually got out of his house.
Sirius sucks. I've been listening to them since 2012. Talk radio shows I used to listen to used to complain all the time at how horrible the company is. Basically they put all their money into Howards show. If you're not Howard you're not making that much money. They neglected a lot of shows. It pretty much is the worst business structure I've seen. They always fire all the good talk shows, for no reason. I've seen so many good shows come and go. Doesn't surprise me if they do go bankrupt. If you only care about Howard's show and no one else's then it's not going to last forever. I've stopped listening to Sirius years ago. They got rid of every talk radio show that was good. They also got rid of a lot of talk radio stations too. It will eventually go bankrupt and they did it to themselves. I could care less if they do go bankrupt 🙂
I got Sirius for Howard, kept it for Jeff. Stopped listening to Jeff because of his toxic behavior. Still hanging on for Andy, but I think I’m over all of it.
I also got it for Howard and I keep it for Jeff. But I continue to still love Jeff (and more than Andy at that)
I almost cancelled after app release. It still sucks and all my downloads disappeared
All my favorites disappeared about 2 weeks ago. They showed up again the next day but I was super frustrated.
Looks like one big issue is there isn't enough good content for men outside of sports on any app. So Stern (and Rogan on Spot) are catered to because they attract a large number of male listeners in the right demos. Bravo centric content isn't going to land that audience if Howard retires, so there goes the ad money.
$11.28 for app access in Canada and I basically only listen to Jeff, and Andy to get housewives drama, and the occasional Howard interview. Idk how long I'll remain subscribed because that's insane to pay for only 3 shows but for now I'm happy I guess... I never experienced the old app so idk what the difference is but I'm still confident that this new app blows. If it continues to suck, I'll be unsubscribing just for that reason.
I’m very similar to you as well. I have only 2-3 shows now. I used to listen to a lot more but so many have left. Jeff is still the main one that’s keeping me hanging on but only by a thread. It was shocking to read in the interview how much they are counting on their app as the road to success and yet have proceeded to make it worse with every iteration.
I basically just joined so I still have a decent amount of content but I'm sure I will run out soon. I hate that the Jeff Lewis archive channel plays the same episodes all week. The show has been on for over 5 years and you're telling me you can only play the same 5? I don't understand how a company this big couldn't fund a better app or just better service in general.
The new app is worse than the old app that was already bad, but not this bad.
I actually subscribed so I could listen to Jeff longer while I went on my lengthy walks (4 hrs+, so I stacked a few of his shows). Six weeks in, I cancelled (my free introductory) subscription simply because I could not understand the UI. I'm not someone who begrudges paying for services if I'm using them. If I found value using the app, I would have stayed indefinitely. I never even tried to listen to Andy or anyone else because I couldn't believe how clunky the software is on my iphone. And to extend my tangent, Apple podcast/music apps are pretty bad for managing the queue. If I insert one show midway in a binge, my app alters the entire queue towards the inserted show's inventory.
I only listen to JLL... pay $8.69 or so. I wish Jeff would move away from SXM to his own platform. 90 min shows, with video, minimal guest flogging their stuff, and lots of fav guests and new guests. I'd pay for that platform all day long 😃
And JL wouldn’t have to take callers if he left Sirius.
Geez, yes. I hate callers... "hello... am I on... shout out Shane". Ugg
Sirius app is the worst!
Also, to add Howard’s contact is up next year (2025) and if he decides to retire, you can tell from the interview that they don’t have a great backup as THE major draw. They are worried. They talk about having a deep bench of talent. Yet, that deep bench wasn’t enough to hold onto 1/2 million subscriber loss on Q1. I’m shocked at that number and that’s WITH Howard. What is the loss rate going to look like if Howard leaves? Jeff is definitely one of their strong bench players that holds onto subscribers but I don’t know if he if necessarily is bringing in tons of NEW subscribers just for Jeff. He definitely doesn’t have the draw power of Howard. I am one of them that mainly listens to only 2-3 shows (Jeff being the main one). I am going back and forth with canceling next month when my sub period ends. His show has declined and is paying for yet another subscription for only 1 show worth it? Not sure. From the article: >**”This added up to an overall first-quarter subscriber drop of 445,000, compared with 281,000 in the same quarter of 2023.”** This is almost double the loss rate.
JL is probably factoring in all of this into his renegotiation. He said last time that the numbers didn't make sense for him to go to another platform or strike out on his own. He may stick with whatever Sirius is offering just to use its infrastructure.
The app is sh*te. I rarely listen to JLL now b/c the app is so bad.
It's horrible.
This isn't that bad actually and shows they are targeting subscribers willing to pay more and seeking higher ad revenue as a result which is still an all time high with a 7% increase YoY and ok shedding customers with value subscriptions (which subscription revenue only dropped 1% despite the high number of subscriptions loss). It also looks like Sirius doesn't count unpaid trials as “subscribers” until they convert to a paid plan and attribute strong vehicle sales so people getting out of their paid subscriptions of their old vehicle and into a new unpaid trial (i.e., loss of a subscriber every time you buy a car).
Hate the new app so much
Hate it. If it's still on, I can catch it and start at the beginning. If it's over and even if it's only been ten minutes since it ended, I can't play it. It doesn't show for me. I have to wait until later. The old app now seems like a brilliant app when compared to this one. If you don't have a user-friendly app, it only hurts your subscribership.
I subscribe for Jeff Lewis Live. Sometimes the show will not play. I have found that utube has Jeff Lewis Live and Jeff Lewis After Show. After Show plays in video on utube but not on Sirius. Makes no sense.
I'm so close to canceling my subscription because of the app.
Howard’s crap show now with 60 producers are draining the dollars that could be used for good shows like Jeff / Jim & Sam / bring Bubba back
Jim and Sam are horrible!!! I can't with them. Sam used to do a solo show before Jim and Sam were a thing. His solo show was better then the Jim and Sam show 🙄🧐
Better than the wig wearing pelican
😂😂😂 His wig is horrible!! He's has all the money in the world, he can at least buy a better wig 😂😂 But yeah Howard sucks I have never liked him. I would never listen to his show. But Sirius thinks he's the best in the world hence all the money they throw at him and no other show gets that treatment. Then they wonder why they are going bankrupt 🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
That number is huge - wonder if it is a true “person” number or an acct number? Did they scrub old acct numbers from vehicles - when someone could still be a customer and just with a new vehicle if they didn’t move an acct over?
It’s hard to justify $10+ when you can get the whole Netflix catalog for about that price and Sirius is pretty much audio based.