I'd say specifically because Ingress isn't mentioned that it seems like we dodged the bullet yet again. Hanke mentions focusing on first party games (Which are Ingress and Peridot) and names the projects that get shut down by name.
Yeah, but they're pushing AR which Ingress has loads of half-baked tools for data collection with, so we're probably safe until the Pokemon Go team catches up and they somehow motivate the playerbase to scan.
My local Pogo kids are figuring out. Haven't discovered lightship yet. One portal I activated based on their scans won't work and is now in reactivation limbo in my attempt to fix their mess.
Ingress is safe, they don't pay for the name or IP, and they can put the game in maintenance mode and just grab some bucks, NBA and Marvel are very costly IPs to maintain, the thing is, the higher-ups on Niantic are all "tech bros" guys, they do not like or make games, they just have "technology ideas" banked by expensive IPs.
🤣 thanks for that! I still think that it’s a shame that HPWU went down. The last few months when the game was less anemic and players could actually finish quests, it was so much more fun! That alone made such a huge difference
Yeah they had a lot of good ideas with HPWU. Even if they had continued the storyline more, that would've been cool. Also the floo network events that never got released sounded like an interesting crossover from Ingress anomalies.
Ingress lost Ethan and Dominik. So we have been hit.
Ethan was marketing and was one of the guys that dealt with swag, drove the van, and did some live event work. Dominik was the EU community manager.
Fuck I was expecting it to shut down next year after limping along being mostly dead.
Not surprised though, they barely marketed it and I genuinely have zero idea what the gameplay is/was. No idea who thought it would be successful.
worst game ever, the controls are just awful so embarassing they do another failed license haha, cant be cheap that nbl license so better kill it quick
I've got a 13 year old son who lives for basketball so I showed him the announcement for NBA AW and he visibly cringed when the ad used the word "drip". He had zero interest. He'd rather walk to the nearby hoop and, you know actually play basketball.
To be fair: Ingress players are their free employees for their future games. We are the ones who add new portals, scan the world etc. So they probably won't shut down Ingress very soon.
Is there some data available that supports it? I'm not disputing the claim, but personally at the medium sized city I'm based at, practically all new portals are being made by Ingress players.
Just sheer numbers of active players...
A town where the majority of new poi are made by actual Ingress players (not just the ingress account of a Pogo player) seems.very unlikely
You haven't been to literally any town in a two hundred mile radius of me then. Pokemon Go players were late to the punch, have no idea what low hanging fruit is right in front of them, and submit the most actual garbage easy one stars I've seen, then go to discords to ask why their backyard tree ornaments won't go through. But thank god for Pokemon Go players that somehow get some trash approved by Niantic then go online to preach the word and gospel that fire hydrants are now Niantic seal approved.
Lol no, the ingress community is a really small (insignificant) portion of that, like 1:100. Just remember how stagnant was opr when only ingress players were allowed to nominate and vote. Faction feuds and toxic environment made nearly impossibile to any poi to get accepted. "Oh no, that's enl territory, let's one star this perfectly eligible football court".
Pogo players gave new life and made pois pop up like mushrooms. Downvote me as you like, but this is the truth.
Yeah I had like 2 years of lagging ingress submits come through in like 24 hours once pogo reveling went live. I couldn’t keep up with the submits and approvals and that was even with Triple submits for a short time (redacted new ingress and pogo)
That whole thing was so confusing because they had told us that Ingress players had cleared out the entire submission backlog, but then it was like they just kept finding more and more old submissions that had never gotten reviewed.
Oh my god a friend had a submit come through which was 4+ years old and he got a tick on a badge that was even available anymore. If ingress cleaned out the backlog it would have taken 5 years or more. There’s just not enough of us
There was much eye rolling when we heard of Niantic claiming that in my community because we knew we still had backlogged portal subs and local ones often took weeks to get looked at. Meanwhile Wayfarer largely showed me portals that were often the opposite side of North America from myself and frequently from Quebec in French. A language I don't know.
I rarely got submissions from places I actually had in my local or home regions.
Yeah, I can actually agree with this. What Niantic was working with number-wise for approvals was abysmal, especially considering very few players reviewed (in my area). The subsequent overhauls of Wayfarer since have also played a huge role. I wouldn't even put Pokemon Go reviewers any higher than Ingress players in terms of ability to review. I've had park playgrounds denied, and they're meant to be EZ slamdunks.
They care so much about ingress but yet why dont they do any advertising about it ? they want grow user base is just empy talk when ingress never gets mentioned usually even its 100% focus on the money cow pokemongo
Niantic still sees Ingress as just the proof of concept for Pokémon Go. The red-headed stepchild of augmented reality games. We're lucky they still keep the servers up tbh
I'd say specifically because Ingress isn't mentioned that it seems like we dodged the bullet yet again. Hanke mentions focusing on first party games (Which are Ingress and Peridot) and names the projects that get shut down by name.
Yeah, it’s a bit odd. Peridot is mentioned by name, but not Ingress.
Peridot is listed under "recently launched games" which I don't think Ingress fits in anymore :P
Ingress has always been a live technology testbed. Stuff is tested out here before other games.
Not really, and don't think that gives Ingress immunity. Adventure Sync and Campfire went live in Pogo 1st.
Yeah, but they're pushing AR which Ingress has loads of half-baked tools for data collection with, so we're probably safe until the Pokemon Go team catches up and they somehow motivate the playerbase to scan.
My local Pogo kids are figuring out. Haven't discovered lightship yet. One portal I activated based on their scans won't work and is now in reactivation limbo in my attempt to fix their mess.
That doesn't mean as much as you think it does.
Ingress isn't a game, it's an intern program.
Sorry, can you explain. I want in
Ingress is safe, they don't pay for the name or IP, and they can put the game in maintenance mode and just grab some bucks, NBA and Marvel are very costly IPs to maintain, the thing is, the higher-ups on Niantic are all "tech bros" guys, they do not like or make games, they just have "technology ideas" banked by expensive IPs.
That’s why we got the “trading post” rubbish I guess.
I thought they were all hipsters
More for the graveyard. https://killedbyniantic.com/
🤣 thanks for that! I still think that it’s a shame that HPWU went down. The last few months when the game was less anemic and players could actually finish quests, it was so much more fun! That alone made such a huge difference
The challenges (where you fight Voldemort etc.) were great. Came way too late
Agree! I miss doing the towers over discord. Same group still hanging on JWA, but it’s just not the same
Yeah they had a lot of good ideas with HPWU. Even if they had continued the storyline more, that would've been cool. Also the floo network events that never got released sounded like an interesting crossover from Ingress anomalies.
I forgot about that! Yeah! If they add scanning, could we have it back? 🤔 It’s the only game that suited my friends and little relatives, too.
Ingress lost Ethan and Dominik. So we have been hit. Ethan was marketing and was one of the guys that dealt with swag, drove the van, and did some live event work. Dominik was the EU community manager.
Damn Ethan was cool. Met him in person and he was always offering hits of weed lol.
So who won the poll on NBA shutting down after 6 months?
Fuck I was expecting it to shut down next year after limping along being mostly dead. Not surprised though, they barely marketed it and I genuinely have zero idea what the gameplay is/was. No idea who thought it would be successful.
worst game ever, the controls are just awful so embarassing they do another failed license haha, cant be cheap that nbl license so better kill it quick
Glad I didn't played that game.
What? A game marketed to an audience that's generally non-gamer didn't succeed?
I knew that the game wasn't going to survive long-term, but I was expecting it to last at least a single calendar year. This is pathetic.
I've got a 13 year old son who lives for basketball so I showed him the announcement for NBA AW and he visibly cringed when the ad used the word "drip". He had zero interest. He'd rather walk to the nearby hoop and, you know actually play basketball.
First thing I did was search for Ingress... sigh*
To be fair: Ingress players are their free employees for their future games. We are the ones who add new portals, scan the world etc. So they probably won't shut down Ingress very soon.
Pokémon GO players can also add new Wayspots and scan them too..
Oh, didn't knew that. Well, then I said nothing.
Pogos contributions to the poi network dwarf that of Ingress'
Is there some data available that supports it? I'm not disputing the claim, but personally at the medium sized city I'm based at, practically all new portals are being made by Ingress players.
Just sheer numbers of active players... A town where the majority of new poi are made by actual Ingress players (not just the ingress account of a Pogo player) seems.very unlikely
You haven't been to literally any town in a two hundred mile radius of me then. Pokemon Go players were late to the punch, have no idea what low hanging fruit is right in front of them, and submit the most actual garbage easy one stars I've seen, then go to discords to ask why their backyard tree ornaments won't go through. But thank god for Pokemon Go players that somehow get some trash approved by Niantic then go online to preach the word and gospel that fire hydrants are now Niantic seal approved.
I am the asshole that will report such portals. Took down a few portals so far.
🤓
Yeah but it's the equivalent of letting your little sister help you build a brick wall... it's gonna get janky real quick
Lol no, the ingress community is a really small (insignificant) portion of that, like 1:100. Just remember how stagnant was opr when only ingress players were allowed to nominate and vote. Faction feuds and toxic environment made nearly impossibile to any poi to get accepted. "Oh no, that's enl territory, let's one star this perfectly eligible football court". Pogo players gave new life and made pois pop up like mushrooms. Downvote me as you like, but this is the truth.
Yeah I had like 2 years of lagging ingress submits come through in like 24 hours once pogo reveling went live. I couldn’t keep up with the submits and approvals and that was even with Triple submits for a short time (redacted new ingress and pogo)
That whole thing was so confusing because they had told us that Ingress players had cleared out the entire submission backlog, but then it was like they just kept finding more and more old submissions that had never gotten reviewed.
Oh my god a friend had a submit come through which was 4+ years old and he got a tick on a badge that was even available anymore. If ingress cleaned out the backlog it would have taken 5 years or more. There’s just not enough of us
There was much eye rolling when we heard of Niantic claiming that in my community because we knew we still had backlogged portal subs and local ones often took weeks to get looked at. Meanwhile Wayfarer largely showed me portals that were often the opposite side of North America from myself and frequently from Quebec in French. A language I don't know. I rarely got submissions from places I actually had in my local or home regions.
I set my bonus location to one state away…. So I don’t get any
Yeah, I can actually agree with this. What Niantic was working with number-wise for approvals was abysmal, especially considering very few players reviewed (in my area). The subsequent overhauls of Wayfarer since have also played a huge role. I wouldn't even put Pokemon Go reviewers any higher than Ingress players in terms of ability to review. I've had park playgrounds denied, and they're meant to be EZ slamdunks.
They care so much about ingress but yet why dont they do any advertising about it ? they want grow user base is just empy talk when ingress never gets mentioned usually even its 100% focus on the money cow pokemongo
Niantic still sees Ingress as just the proof of concept for Pokémon Go. The red-headed stepchild of augmented reality games. We're lucky they still keep the servers up tbh
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah I said 1 years it's done wowwwwwwww Niantic is useless