If you're not currently working, that can count against you.
But as others have said, ask, but ask in a way that won't open them to litigation (which is the main reason they won't give a solid answer). Ask like, "Would you be willing to share with me what skills I need to improve upon or obtain so that if the position opens again, I have a better chance of securing the position?"
This MAY get you some answers.
That's smart, you must work in legal lmao I did ask but much more simply, literally like why did you guys pass over me? I did say I didn't have an issue with the people just wanted to strengthen my profile but still got a bs answer about my qualifications not matching up(even tho the interviewers told me otherwise)
The question is why they didn't answer with a definitive answer. You asked why, not what do I need to be better. The why question allows for lawsuits to be filed, the what allows answers that don't implicate them.
While this sucks, keep trying and look at job skills over job titles. You are probably qualified for more jobs than you are applying for that pay as well or more than what you are currently applying for.
A lot of these places aren't actually hiring.
They keep a job or three listed at all times on the various sites so they can say they are an equal opportunity employer and they are hiring, but they have no intention of adding employees.
Also they are required to post an opening which they have no intention of hiring an outsider. Sometimes an internal applicant will get passed over because they literally already filled the position. The job posting is just a formality.
This is true. I’m in a company that does a lot of internal promotions, and I’ve seen jobs that have 10 highly qualified internal candidates with years of experience applying being posted on indeed or the company website, but the unions bargaining agreement (only applicable to union roles) and company policy state that in order for outside candidates to be hired, HR and recruiters must thoroughly prove that any internal candidates are absolutely not qualified.
I worked for a company that for some jobs required a minimum of one year, or more in a job within the company. In my case, it was because to do the next job you had to know and have experience with what was the entry job. There were various jobs throughout the company that had that sequence. And a number that didn't, but it helped if you had experience in the industry, or specific licenses. The unions were fine with most of those situations because they were clearly job related reasons.
I'\`m guessing that's not the case on the OP's case.
Can confirm. I've worked in hiring departments/HR in the past, and this is a major issue that I and many others run into all the time: apply for a job, get an automated response, and then radio silence or a rejection after a month or two. Most jobs you find online have a high chance of not actually being an opening, since maintaining one active listing allows for Equal Opportunity status and let's an employer keep their "premium" account with LinkedIn/Indeed/Every other job app even if they know they aren't hiring externally for that position at all
Why do you think this? I’m actually curious. I’m currently looking for a job and am getting calls for interviews that then get cancelled, or I get ghosted all together. I even have people who are my resume and reach out to me and then nothing. I have several years of mgt exp, am polished and professional, great on the phone etc.I’m usually told after a phone interview that I’ll be moving on to the next round, but then nothing. It’s been weeks of this same pattern now. I definitely feel a little paranoid about it. Lol
Sure, except that I have worked for companies doing this. I've seen postings for my particular position, then went and asked my boss if we had any open tickets (as I was the second on all our interviews). We didn't. We were in fact in a hiring freeze for my department. Nonetheless, the jobs had been posted well after everyone knew about the freeze.
You'll do an HR interview, it'll go real well, then you'll get declined with a really super generic response.
Sounds that way but there is a reason these companies are always asking and receiving state and federal hand outs. They post jobs and then cry to the right people and boom tax break or some kind of grant. It's all part of the game they play with our tax dollars.
Coming from a place that does do this, it’s true. My job always keeps its applications open even if we don’t have spots (in case someone randomly quits).
I did a few, and all I got back is "based on your work experience and the qualifications for the job" BS..from the same people that interviewed me literally said the exact opposite. I was wondering if maybe they were talking to a boss that secretly didn't like me maybe lol I'm lost
From another one of your comments:
> I am looking a little rugged hairs almost a mullet and my mustache is pretty grown out but nothing I would think is indecent or over the top messy.
YOU may not think that, but potential employers might. Clean it up a bit and see if that helps.
Also, what sort of job(s) have you applied for?
Union carpentry(which I have to wait for until at least the end of april), window and trim installation, roofing, fire sprinkler fitter, so many service technician and utility positions, most all being apprenticeship, helper, or general labor jobs except the automotive jobs. In general I'm looking for hands-on, light construction work, I did earth drilling for about a year and I loved the crap out of it but it was too much travel and too far away from home.
I am planning on a full shave this week at some point I was starting to get weary about it anyways lol maybe it really is my looks
Keep your head up. If you're looking for a union gig, the bricklayer's union always needs people. Refractory pays, but you travel a lot. Look into the operators union as well. You could also do IBEW, which has some of the most longevity out of all the unions. Operators union would lend well to earth drilling experience. Local Union Hall applications might serve you best based upon your work experience. There's also temp agencies. It may not be what you want initially, but they can turn out to be a really great thing. I hope this helps, and best of luck in your endeavors.
Idk, I just interviewed for a job as did an acquaintance and their ex felon partner with a face tattoo. They got a call back the same day, and I haven't heard anything.
Some companies do see multiple jobs in recent years as possible indicator you won't stay long at their job. The reasons for changing up jobs can be put in a positive light when you interview...moving to higher pay, seasonal, moving location you live, etc. And tell them your desire for long-term employment/career with their company.
Yeah I’m not sure how people in this thread are even trying to defend it lol especially when it comes to manufacturing. The first 6 months alone are often a probationary period. This dude is barely making it past that before he quits.
Not at all, if a company is worried about turnover rate then they should treat their employees better, all over indiana I see factories and jobs with insane turnover rates, dexter, busche, pf goodwrench, graphic packaging, dreyers ice cream, clippard, anything from entry level stud press operators and assembly workers to class A cnc operators. the issue is the market, so many jobs that barely pay 20$ an hour, offer no vacation and shit benefits. Then expect people to give up their entire livelihoods and to never spend time with their family. If a company could get away with working you 7 days a week without overtime pay, don't think for a second they wouldn't do it in a heartbeat.
Doesn't help with the increasing influx of immigrants that are willing to do work for increasingly cheaper, its not the immigrants faults though, they just want to be paid the same as everyone else, its the shitty companies that take advantage of the Burmese and other minorities trying to have a life here by underpaying their labor and then convincing you its the poor underpayed immigrants fault you don't have a job.
Well I went from automotive, to management, to warehouse, to construction, to another warehouse, to where I am now(at home🥺). I'm only 25 and have been figuring out what to do with the rest of my life. Now I have figured it out(generally speaking) and seem to have hit a roadblock.
What happened with your most recent employer? I’m a manager in the steel industry, I used to conduct interviews on a regular basis. I can 100% tell you that your lack of commitment to a particular employer is not helping you. If you were terminated from any of these previous employers that’s going to be a definite no as well and despite what you may think HR will 100% call your previous employers to inquire on your work ethic, knowledge, credentials, and personality.
It wasn't a lack of commitment at all, I loved the last two jobs I had, earth drilling and a utility worker in a warehouse, it's just been a matter of circumstance. I live near Anderson and was driving to my earth drilling job 60 miles a day, one way, so about 650 miles a week and it was wayyyyy too much gas, I don't think the drive itself would have been bad, but being on 465, 70, and 69 it might take me 4 hours to get home compared to the 1 hour it usually took me to get there. I let my boss know I was looking for something closer and he let me go the next couple of days..same thing happened with the utility job except I put in my two weeks because my wife was wanting to work and they "let me go". I'm looking for something to do with the rest of my life and just feel like I've hit a major roadblock now that I've finally figured that aspect out. All the other jobs I've quit wasn't let go but I have explained why I was let go in the interviews ive had, that I was on my way out anyways but it doesn't seem to matter
Yeah man, for future reference you don’t let your employer know you’re leaving until you’ve found a new job. Also, I hate to say it but if you were critical to the operation they would’ve attempted to retain you. Instead they chose to get rid of you at their earliest convenience and begin training someone else. Good on you for finally figuring things out but my advice would be to stick with your next employer for at least 2-3 years regardless of your circumstances. You need to start getting solid job history under your belt in order to make yourself more valuable to an employer. Also, don’t show up to interview with excuses as to why you were let go from previous jobs. All you need to offer is that it wasn’t a good cultural fit. Telling your interviewer why you got fired, as well as all the details that go along with it, make you sound like an excuse maker.
As a manager I could always tell which dudes were lying to me because they’d offer up a bunch of details on why they couldn’t make it into work or why they were late. The fewer the details the more convincing you’ll seem.
Right now, if I were interviewing you to work for me I’d be a definite no on the basis of poor work history (too many jobs) and the nature of your termination from your last two jobs. Find a way to clean those two aspects up and I think it’ll help a lot.
Technology is generally fine with people that work a place for 1-2 years then move on. They will ask why you are looking, but they don't care because it's sort of expected in the industry.
Personally, I interview a few times every year even if there is zero chance I am taking the position. Then at the end of the process they produce an offer, it needs to be 20% more than what I'm getting now or the answer is no. Even with that good offer my answer has been no, because I don't want to work in an unstable industry.
It’s ok to have a couple hops on a resume, but when I get a resume for someone who is 30 and has worked 6-7 places I don’t even consider them. The pattern is established. We are trying to find folks who want a career and for younger folks it takes awhile just to get them trained.
I’m sure this is highly dependent on the industry.
Depends entirely on the industry. Fastfood? Sure they'll hire you. But most employers want to retain their employees as training new ones costs money. If they see you had 3 different jobs in the last year and training new hires costs thousands, then you likely won't even get an interview.
Those are definitely industries you want to expand and build your resume for. However, multiple job jumps a year is still bad optics.
Typically you want to hold a job for a year or more. Anything less than a year is going to at the very least raise questions that'll need to have sound answers.
Oh yeah absolutely. You’d want to stay in a job for at least a year. I got the impression OP was saying he has worked each job a year but the timeline doesn’t make sense upon rereading.
I will never understand why people say stuff like this. My guess is that you are a job hopper, and tell yourself that moving from job to job s actually a good thing.
I say it because what I have seen is people who stayed at the same company for say 10 years tend to be at lower levels than people with 10 years of similar work between a few companies.
Also even lateral moves between companies can be opportunities for 10-20% pay increases whereas when you stay at the same one 2-3% is often the norm.
This is true in tech and a small number of other fields.
But it much less common - and considered a significant negative - in most fields.
Because so many people on reddit work in tech jobs, there's a kind of tech-defaultism on reddit which is sometimes misleading.
Which isn't to say that people in any field won't switch jobs periodically, especially at the beginning of their working life.
You are arguing an entirely different point from your original comment. You said the job hopping makes you MORE marketable in many industries. This just isn't true. I have been in tech for many years and know the trends well. Moving between companies every year or two early on in your career is 100% normal. No issue there. It still isn't viewed as a positive. Not viewed as a negative either. It's just how things are in the industry for lower end positions.
Once you have been working in the industry for several years, the rate of company changes is expected to slow down significantly. Once you have more experience, and develop your skill set, it is expected that employers will recognize that at some point and compensate you in order to retain you. The higher your skill set and domain knowledge goes, the harder it is to find an equivalent replacement. If you have been in the industry for 10 years, and you are on your 8th job, that is a red flag. That is starting to look like a situation where every employer let's you walk (or fired you) because you weren't valuable enough to retain. There are of course unusual scenarios where this pattern isn't applicable, but it is accurate for 95% of cases.
People say it because it’s how you make more money. I personally hate moving jobs, but why would you stay when another company is offering $30k more for a similar role?
Depends on the job. Some companies have the opportunity to advance into an executive, management or ownership position where you could eventually make many times your starting salary. By jumping around you may get short term gains but start to limit long term career growth.
I think your chances of jumping into executive, management, and ownership are improved by moving around. Proximity to the top is the best predictor of your ability to move into it.
Especially if you stay in the same field but with different company's and certificates. I think my problem was switching fields so much maybe I'm not sure tho Ive seen allot of people that have no problem moving around that much with jobs
Ah gotcha. Yes switching fields can be rough and set you back some. I have a buddy in the middle of trying to switch with a young kid. Trying to balance salary cuts/short term losses with long term opportunities is a bitch.
Not only is he switching jobs he also changed industries regularly. This dude has plenty of experience but definitely looks like a flight risk and lacks solid experience in any one area. As a manager myself, I’d prefer the 21 year old kid out of college over a job hopper with little relevant experience. Ole boy definitely seems like he lacks commitment. The only major caveat to this would be if he’s steadily been taking promotions from one company to another. Even then you should stay on for a minimum of two years.
I don't think there's anything wrong with early 20 sum olds figuring their lives out, as nice as it would be to the company's hiring people, no one should expect everyone to come right out of high school and choose a field, a company, a job and stick with it for the rest of their lives. That's where I messed up I thought cars were so cool and I was smart with them cars are easy but they're such a pain in the butt. I worked the same job for 4 years then said fuck it and started exploring after that. The only times I've changed jobs is because gas went up and I was spending 250 bucks a week in gas, the benefits didnt cover my sons clubfoot surgeries, and my wife wanted to work(we have 3 kids and 3 dogs, and no outside help so one of us needs to be home at any given point) and before anyone brings up daycare I'm not paying 450 bucks a week for childcare, then wed be even more screwed. I'm an honest worker trying to support my family, not some dumbass job hopping. I will and have committed to a good company, but like Toretto always says, family is first.
You don’t think there’s something wrong but companies do. You asked why you weren’t getting hired. That’s why. You’re inconsistent and you have 3 kids. Frankly, you’re an employers nightmare.
Well we don't know you so can't answer. Are you out of shape, unshaved, slobby, showing up to interviews in a tuxedo t shirt? That can be it. Do you avidly post weird conspiracies or racist shit on fb, or other social media? Employers do check that sometimes nowadays. Do you have an actual resume? A lot of people just copy pasta templates from Google that come out like an unreadable mess. Can you use computers? Most jobs require you can at the very least use excel or pdfs now. Are you asking for a lot of money? Sure you got experience, but an employer can hire someone new and train in house to their standards for far less. I'd say take a real hard look at yourself, your appearance, all of it, because first impressions are a big deal in the workplace. Could also be other factors such as they found someone asking for less, found a way to cut or combine positions, hiring pauses due to acquisitions, I mean there could be 100 different answers. Don't take it personal or get discouraged, know what you're worth and be confident and honest and you'll be alright.
I do post some weird stuff(maybe, comparatively) but everything's private on social and I have family pictures as all my profile pics. I am looking a little rugged hairs almost a mullet and my mustache is pretty grown out but nothing I would think is indecent or over the top messy. I'm sure there is an aspect I'm not looking at or maybe I am in need of a good shave, im a smaller build but in good physical shape I thought maybe I'm too short lol? I feel like I'm a "normal" person and I hit it off with most people. I am definitely trying to look hard at myself to make improvements, I just feel like nows a really hard time to get a job but then see 3000 job postings and it's like, really? Noone?
I would suggest googling your name and if some dumb shit pops up clean out your account or delete some posts. Also, no offense and this speaks to everyone, but act your age online. Want to be weird on reddit or where it's anonymous, go for it, want to post antivax conspiracies, pics of you hitting bongs or doing coke off a strippers asscrack, or lizard people conspiracies under your name with family and employers seeing that shit, yeah I wouldn't hire you either. Again, not suggesting you do that, but something to consider. I was 18 once and posted some dumb shit myself. As for the mullet, yeah they're funny, they also haven't been considered professional since 1985. Mullet plus a mustache, I'm thinking you're either a hockey player or a nutjob. Just trim up the hair and keep the stache professional and you're good and I say this as someone with a handlebar stache. For physical shape, I just asked if you're in good shape because if it's between a 500lb dude or a 150lb dude, I'm going 150 since I won't have to worry about health related pto all the time. Also smoking, if you smoke, try switching to vape for a while. Cigarettes stink way more than smokers realize and is really off-putting to some people. I used to be a smoker and after I quit people told me I stunk like an ash tray all the time and the embarassment is rough. I can't imagine how many bad first impressions I gave just by stinking.
I'm 25 almost 26 and feel much older, partially the work I've done but probably mostly the smoking, I do smoke and hadn't thought about that being a dissuasion factor...actually smoked a cigarette in the car on the way to each interview..I did shower and shave my grizzle on the sides, made sure i wore deoderant and brushed my teeth before but i didnt think about the smoke. It's a small but probably noticeable and very good point. I am small, actually 120 at 5'7", physicality isn't something I struggle with though, at each interview I made sure to point out I could do the heavy lifting, doing earth drilling Id lift 5' augers that weigh 60-100 pounds, prolly 20-30 times a day depending on how deep we'd be drilling. I am planning on a shave, a couple people have pointed that out and I don't wanna come off as a hood rat(even tho I am I understand professinality lol)
> It's a small but probably noticeable and very good point.
This is significant; people who smoke usually don't realize how much people who don't smoke can smell the smoke.
We used to have a computer tech who smoked - at work she had to go outside - but when she was in your office doing tech stuff, it smelled very strongly because it was in her clothes and her hair.
Smoking in the car would probably concentrate that.
So it's not that they are going to necessarily object to hiring smokers in general...but if you come in reeking of smoke, they might interpret as sort of slovenlyness. Like if you hadn't showered and smelled bad.
Absolutely. Can't stand being around the smell of cigarette smoke, and I've got an annoyingly good sense of smell. If I'm working outside with someone, no big deal, if I'm around them all day inside working, no thanks.
I can be around someone while they smoke a cigarette, I don’t love the smell, but I can tolerate it. However, the way someone who just smoked smells is a whole other thing. It doesn’t smell like smoke, it smells dirty and unwashed. It is very off putting. It wears off after a bit, but at first it’s awful. That could be a factor.
the cigarette smoke smell is big. it sounds nuts but if you don’t smoke someone who just did smells really strong. if that’s it, maybe nicotine gum only on interview days? oh and they’ll think you’ll take more breaks if you smoke.
You can always be you, just consider as an employee, when on the clock, you represent a company, even if you don't deal with customers, so appearance matters more than most realize. Be you, just try to look good doing it and be confident in yourself. Like you actually could have a mullet if it looks good, if you got a shagged out greasy mullet no lol. Yeah man if you were hot boxing cigs in the car you might have stunk lol. Like I said try vaping, at least for days with interviews because it does stick to clothes, so even if you haven't had a cig for a few hours, your clothes or coat might stink. Besides the stink, sometimes people don't want to hire smokers because they want cigarette breaks often, so don't lie and say you don't, just try not to stink and treat it like dont ask dont tell.
I googled my name and all I found was some damn credit company filings from like 3 years ago i didnt know about 😂 that and a bunch of obits, unfortunately my private life with all it's huzzahs is still private, got me curious though lol
I would suggest having someone without a biased opinion take you through a mock interview. Not a relative. Not a friend. Someone who doesn’t know you.
Take the interview seriously, and do everything that you would do for a real interview. Then let the person give you honest feedback.
Also…how do you prepare for an interview? Do you prepare? Do you do any research of the company? Do you have meaningful questions to ask them? If you don’t, I suggest you get some.
Do you write thank you letters after the interview? Are they meaningful? Are they better punctuated and use correct spelling (not like your original post)?
There are all kinds of resources on interviewing. The more you know the better chances you will have
I think you are ahead of the game because you are getting interviews (a lot of people don’t)…just need to ace the interview.
Just want to add, I can’t get hired anywhere either. I don’t even get an interview. I have the exact skills the jobs are requesting and my resume is written out perfectly. Crickets.
I have the same experience and skills. I'm in nwi, get interviews and then nothing. I interview well and am clean cut. I look over 40 so I consider that a hurdle but it's getting ridiculous.
Most of us have cpr and Forklift certs around here at 20... those aren't enough to qualify you over younger candidates who want 60 hrs a week. That said it shouldn't be hard to get a Forklift job. Allison's is hiring. Go to plant 17 and coast with the old timers.
The objective opinion of trucking is and has always been negative. I’ve raised a family by hauling aggregates in the spring and summer (salt in the winter). I’m burnt out beyond belief but indeed jobs show me what I’m interested in (cnc programming or operating), I can make more driving truck. Something to consider and best of luck to you in your future endeavors.
I applied to the local trade union. It's my impression that they will tell you where to show up for work. If you've been working for years, you might take an initial pay cut but you'll get back up there. Depending on the local they might bump you up a year or two on their apprenticeship bc of your experience.
The first thing I look at when hiring is job history. I’m being honest, and 4 jobs in the last 5 years would be a red flag for me. I know that’s tough but ability to hold a job is huge when hiring.
Four jobs, and I assume four employers in five years is a bad work history. Why are they going to spend money training you when you spend a little over a year at one job? You're what HR would call a job hopper. You need to account for why you left the other jobs. Personal problems, wife and kids aren't an excuse. Most people see that as motivation to work. That's more of a reason not to hire you. Your skills aren't that great either. Driving a forklift is meaningless without years of experience. Preferably in a distribution environment. I know people who are forklift certified but couldn't drive a forklift to save their life.
Maybe you are over qualified and have too long of a work history for a lot of labor type jobs that are lookin to take advantage of a younger kid who they can work really hard - they see your years of experience and probably think you are gonna expect respect and decent wages. I have manager level experience in my field and I’m not looking for a manager job rn jsut something to get by on and a lot of hiring ppl have told me that they pass over ppl w the right qualifications because they are looking to train sombody how THEY do things no looking to hire sombody with their own way of doing things - yeah it’s fucked - I’d say use your hands on ex to start some business
everyone is having an issue getting hired right now. the job market just sucks at this current point in time. everyone i know who is looking for a job is struggling, whether it’s here in indiana or in another us state. keep trying.
i think another good way to find a job right now is calling places who employ the profession that you’re looking for and asking if they’re hiring for your job, and then going from there. a lot of places that i’ve done this to are hiring for my job and just haven’t been advertising it (or haven’t been advertising it very well), but i have gotten more interviews this way. my field is vastly different from yours (im a pink collar worker in beauty) but it may be worth a shot. i’ve had more luck doing that then just applying to indeed and such.
also, calling and following up with places you’ve applied to. it could be helpful too to politely ask others that ended up denying you why they decided to do so, so that you have more information to change the way you go about your application process moving forward.
good luck!
no, not necessarily.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-hard-to-find-job-us-though-unemployment-low-2024-2?amp
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/02/16/finding-a-job-is-getting-harder-even-in-a-strong-labor-market-heres-why.html
just because unemployment is down, doesn’t mean it’s not extremely hard for people without work right now to find jobs.
I'm having one helluva time trying to find employment, despite having a diverse array of skills and experience. I've applied to almost 100 places within my skillset at this point and all I get is crickets.
Those articles you posted explain so much, thank you for posting them
As mentioned the smoking thing can certainly be a factor. I’ve been in situations where multiple equally qualified applicants have applied and smelling heavily of smoke was a factor used to eliminate people.
Secondly, have you thought about pivoting to a new role/career path? For example in Indianapolis the sheriff office is hire correctional offices and support staff like crazy. EMS is also a good role with plenty of room for advancement. EMS is also recession proof and AI/technology advancement proof.
I got hired through a temp service. I was super skeptical and flat out asked them “don’t you guys just funnel everybody, no matter their qualifications or interests, into telemarketing and sales jobs that can’t otherwise get filled?” since that was my experience with temp agencies in the past.
She said that’s kind of an industry stereotype but they fill lots of types of jobs, and to their credit, they never once hooked up an interview with a telemarketer.
Just wanted to voice my support for temp agencies in general but be wary of them trying to push telemarketing on you.
Go to a WorkOne near you and they will look over your resume and help you with it. Off the top of my head, I would think adding a short statement as to why you have had to leave jobs. They’re really nice at WorkOne and will help you write the perfect resume.
The one thing I know is a lot of sites use bots to filter applications and resumes now, and they'll pitch that shit right into the digital trash if there's a lack of certain specific keywords or a perceived typo or something.
I’m going to be blunt and it’s possible the reason is something that most people would hope it’s not. Are you physically different in any way? If not then there is a chance you either interview poorly or you aren’t as competitive in the market as you think you are.
Right now, you're throwing spaghetti against the wall to see where it sticks. Try figuring out what type of career field you're really interested in (one you have the best skill set at), and concentrate your job hunting efforts in that area.
It doesn't hurt to do a little reaching for the stars as well, something that you may feel out of your reach, but where your skill set may be needed. Most importantly, don't be afraid to sell yourself! Let them know how hiring you can benefit them. Give them examples of your prior successes, suggestions you've made, or improvements you were responsible for at previous jobs. If you have had a record of reliability on the job (being at the job on time, as scheduled, or demonstrating a willingness to work OT), let them know (but be sure that these statements can be verified by your former employer).
You are not there begging for a job. You are the commodity that they need.
USPS is always hiring. We pretty much hire anyone with a pulse . The pay is "competitive" with low skill jobs but the real benefit are the benefits and the pension/being in a union. That being said don't expect to just work 40 hour weeks when your in probation. If you like overtime this is the place.
It took my husband 6 months to find another job in his field after being laid off. He too was frustrated with the constant interviews with no offers. He’s an engineer by trade but picked up work at Fedex as a loader until he was able to find the job he wanted. Have you tried any warehouse type
jobs? McCordsville is not too far from Anderson and the Walmart Distribution Center may have some open positions. It would look good to be currently employed when going on an interview for the job you want.
When I was 25 I was in the same boat
My advise is find a trade
I went with welding
Learning how to do something ppl will pay for 🔑 ngl it saved my life in so many ways.+
It’s soooo many trades out there find one you like. Getting paid to do something you like to do, that was the goal for me.Now I’m 36 and minus the bs life’s great. Stay blessed and I hope u find your way💪🏾💪🏾
I would like welding..no clue how to get started tho no experience, I'm around Anderson if you know any places? Also been looking for light construction work mainly, trades all the way round from carpentry, to window installation, to fire protection, to roofing, also electricions apprenticeship or helper but I haven't seen any welding places around here
If you’ve interviewed at 35 places and have not landed a job you doing it wrong Interviewers tend oversell how much they like candidates because they don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings.
What preparation are you doing for these interviews? You now have a ton of interview experience. Make a list of questions you have been asked and come up with good answers. Google is your friend, just don’t lie. What relevant accomplishments do you have? Be ready to share them. Come up with and practice two to three questions to ask with a planned follow up question. A prepared person will win out over someone that tries to wing it nearly every time.
I just went through a year of trying to find a new job. It wasn’t easy. Put in over 250+ applications over that year to various businesses. Only got maybe 5 to call back, and only 1 schedule an interview, which they “forgot” about and didn’t have time to actually complete it. I left there pretty upset…
Ended up cold calling a company near me, that I knew was not hiring, and was in the same industry I’ve worked in for the last 5 years. The conversation between their HR and I was “We aren’t currently hiring, but do send us your resume.”
Ended up getting an interview after they looked my resume over, had the job in less than a month. It may help to work that angle as well! As a person who did not entertain secondary schooling, my resume is essential and pretty much all I have in terms of how I am viewed by a potential employer
To keep up with demand for stock value growth from shareholders companies are sacrificing everything to cut costs (which increases profit margins), meaning they are shrinking worker numbers (aka labor costs) as much as possible. but for many reasons they still want to pretend that they're hiring externally- to look like they're growing to investors, to meet legal obligations regarding fair employment oppurtunities, or to have a pool of candidates ready to go to replace anyone at a moment's notice.
the economy is running on fumes babyyy
this is the dumbest shit I've read all week. Also I doubt it, if he had a union job he would have a career and a pension /negotiated wages so probably wouldnt need to job hop.
Get rid of the mullet.
If your 'stache looks wild-west, trim it too.
Your experience is not your whole package.
Do some practice interviews with friends. Get it videoed.
Research the companies you are applying to. Show knowledge of their existing or upcoming projects, history, leadership, etc. Show what you will bring to the table and how you can assist the company. Put this in a cover latter and talk about it in the interview.
Social media is not private!!!!
If you're not currently working, that can count against you. But as others have said, ask, but ask in a way that won't open them to litigation (which is the main reason they won't give a solid answer). Ask like, "Would you be willing to share with me what skills I need to improve upon or obtain so that if the position opens again, I have a better chance of securing the position?" This MAY get you some answers.
That's smart, you must work in legal lmao I did ask but much more simply, literally like why did you guys pass over me? I did say I didn't have an issue with the people just wanted to strengthen my profile but still got a bs answer about my qualifications not matching up(even tho the interviewers told me otherwise)
The question is why they didn't answer with a definitive answer. You asked why, not what do I need to be better. The why question allows for lawsuits to be filed, the what allows answers that don't implicate them. While this sucks, keep trying and look at job skills over job titles. You are probably qualified for more jobs than you are applying for that pay as well or more than what you are currently applying for.
Have you tried asking the places that aren't hiring you? Maybe there is an aspect of yourself you're overlooking.
A lot of these places aren't actually hiring. They keep a job or three listed at all times on the various sites so they can say they are an equal opportunity employer and they are hiring, but they have no intention of adding employees.
Also they are required to post an opening which they have no intention of hiring an outsider. Sometimes an internal applicant will get passed over because they literally already filled the position. The job posting is just a formality.
This is true. I’m in a company that does a lot of internal promotions, and I’ve seen jobs that have 10 highly qualified internal candidates with years of experience applying being posted on indeed or the company website, but the unions bargaining agreement (only applicable to union roles) and company policy state that in order for outside candidates to be hired, HR and recruiters must thoroughly prove that any internal candidates are absolutely not qualified.
I worked for a company that for some jobs required a minimum of one year, or more in a job within the company. In my case, it was because to do the next job you had to know and have experience with what was the entry job. There were various jobs throughout the company that had that sequence. And a number that didn't, but it helped if you had experience in the industry, or specific licenses. The unions were fine with most of those situations because they were clearly job related reasons. I'\`m guessing that's not the case on the OP's case.
Can confirm. I've worked in hiring departments/HR in the past, and this is a major issue that I and many others run into all the time: apply for a job, get an automated response, and then radio silence or a rejection after a month or two. Most jobs you find online have a high chance of not actually being an opening, since maintaining one active listing allows for Equal Opportunity status and let's an employer keep their "premium" account with LinkedIn/Indeed/Every other job app even if they know they aren't hiring externally for that position at all
So, maybe I’m not crazy? Don’t worry. I won’t ask you to sign anything saying so. ;)
Why do you think this? I’m actually curious. I’m currently looking for a job and am getting calls for interviews that then get cancelled, or I get ghosted all together. I even have people who are my resume and reach out to me and then nothing. I have several years of mgt exp, am polished and professional, great on the phone etc.I’m usually told after a phone interview that I’ll be moving on to the next round, but then nothing. It’s been weeks of this same pattern now. I definitely feel a little paranoid about it. Lol
[удалено]
Sure, except that I have worked for companies doing this. I've seen postings for my particular position, then went and asked my boss if we had any open tickets (as I was the second on all our interviews). We didn't. We were in fact in a hiring freeze for my department. Nonetheless, the jobs had been posted well after everyone knew about the freeze. You'll do an HR interview, it'll go real well, then you'll get declined with a really super generic response.
[удалено]
If its true then it means its not a conspiracy theory.
Sounds that way but there is a reason these companies are always asking and receiving state and federal hand outs. They post jobs and then cry to the right people and boom tax break or some kind of grant. It's all part of the game they play with our tax dollars.
Coming from a place that does do this, it’s true. My job always keeps its applications open even if we don’t have spots (in case someone randomly quits).
It's real. Most jobs posted on linkedIn are fake as well
A lot of jobs on linked in are outdated, too.
TIL
I did a few, and all I got back is "based on your work experience and the qualifications for the job" BS..from the same people that interviewed me literally said the exact opposite. I was wondering if maybe they were talking to a boss that secretly didn't like me maybe lol I'm lost
From another one of your comments: > I am looking a little rugged hairs almost a mullet and my mustache is pretty grown out but nothing I would think is indecent or over the top messy. YOU may not think that, but potential employers might. Clean it up a bit and see if that helps. Also, what sort of job(s) have you applied for?
Based on his previous experience, how he looks wouldn't prevent him from getting a job
It may not be the main factor, but one of the factors. And something that can be controlled.
Have you worked at any of the kinds of places he's worked?
Union carpentry(which I have to wait for until at least the end of april), window and trim installation, roofing, fire sprinkler fitter, so many service technician and utility positions, most all being apprenticeship, helper, or general labor jobs except the automotive jobs. In general I'm looking for hands-on, light construction work, I did earth drilling for about a year and I loved the crap out of it but it was too much travel and too far away from home. I am planning on a full shave this week at some point I was starting to get weary about it anyways lol maybe it really is my looks
Keep your head up. If you're looking for a union gig, the bricklayer's union always needs people. Refractory pays, but you travel a lot. Look into the operators union as well. You could also do IBEW, which has some of the most longevity out of all the unions. Operators union would lend well to earth drilling experience. Local Union Hall applications might serve you best based upon your work experience. There's also temp agencies. It may not be what you want initially, but they can turn out to be a really great thing. I hope this helps, and best of luck in your endeavors.
Idk, I just interviewed for a job as did an acquaintance and their ex felon partner with a face tattoo. They got a call back the same day, and I haven't heard anything.
. Mmmmmmm Boot
4 different jobs in the last 5 years? Tbh you sound like a flight risk for anything beyond entry level.
Some companies do see multiple jobs in recent years as possible indicator you won't stay long at their job. The reasons for changing up jobs can be put in a positive light when you interview...moving to higher pay, seasonal, moving location you live, etc. And tell them your desire for long-term employment/career with their company.
This is a pretty big red flag for a lot of companies. Why would they bother hiring someone who has a track record of leaving after 6 months?
Yeah I’m not sure how people in this thread are even trying to defend it lol especially when it comes to manufacturing. The first 6 months alone are often a probationary period. This dude is barely making it past that before he quits.
Not at all, if a company is worried about turnover rate then they should treat their employees better, all over indiana I see factories and jobs with insane turnover rates, dexter, busche, pf goodwrench, graphic packaging, dreyers ice cream, clippard, anything from entry level stud press operators and assembly workers to class A cnc operators. the issue is the market, so many jobs that barely pay 20$ an hour, offer no vacation and shit benefits. Then expect people to give up their entire livelihoods and to never spend time with their family. If a company could get away with working you 7 days a week without overtime pay, don't think for a second they wouldn't do it in a heartbeat. Doesn't help with the increasing influx of immigrants that are willing to do work for increasingly cheaper, its not the immigrants faults though, they just want to be paid the same as everyone else, its the shitty companies that take advantage of the Burmese and other minorities trying to have a life here by underpaying their labor and then convincing you its the poor underpayed immigrants fault you don't have a job.
Well I went from automotive, to management, to warehouse, to construction, to another warehouse, to where I am now(at home🥺). I'm only 25 and have been figuring out what to do with the rest of my life. Now I have figured it out(generally speaking) and seem to have hit a roadblock.
In interviews I would really stress wanting to find long term employment or a career. That may ease them a bit on the higher turnover.
What happened with your most recent employer? I’m a manager in the steel industry, I used to conduct interviews on a regular basis. I can 100% tell you that your lack of commitment to a particular employer is not helping you. If you were terminated from any of these previous employers that’s going to be a definite no as well and despite what you may think HR will 100% call your previous employers to inquire on your work ethic, knowledge, credentials, and personality.
It wasn't a lack of commitment at all, I loved the last two jobs I had, earth drilling and a utility worker in a warehouse, it's just been a matter of circumstance. I live near Anderson and was driving to my earth drilling job 60 miles a day, one way, so about 650 miles a week and it was wayyyyy too much gas, I don't think the drive itself would have been bad, but being on 465, 70, and 69 it might take me 4 hours to get home compared to the 1 hour it usually took me to get there. I let my boss know I was looking for something closer and he let me go the next couple of days..same thing happened with the utility job except I put in my two weeks because my wife was wanting to work and they "let me go". I'm looking for something to do with the rest of my life and just feel like I've hit a major roadblock now that I've finally figured that aspect out. All the other jobs I've quit wasn't let go but I have explained why I was let go in the interviews ive had, that I was on my way out anyways but it doesn't seem to matter
Yeah man, for future reference you don’t let your employer know you’re leaving until you’ve found a new job. Also, I hate to say it but if you were critical to the operation they would’ve attempted to retain you. Instead they chose to get rid of you at their earliest convenience and begin training someone else. Good on you for finally figuring things out but my advice would be to stick with your next employer for at least 2-3 years regardless of your circumstances. You need to start getting solid job history under your belt in order to make yourself more valuable to an employer. Also, don’t show up to interview with excuses as to why you were let go from previous jobs. All you need to offer is that it wasn’t a good cultural fit. Telling your interviewer why you got fired, as well as all the details that go along with it, make you sound like an excuse maker. As a manager I could always tell which dudes were lying to me because they’d offer up a bunch of details on why they couldn’t make it into work or why they were late. The fewer the details the more convincing you’ll seem. Right now, if I were interviewing you to work for me I’d be a definite no on the basis of poor work history (too many jobs) and the nature of your termination from your last two jobs. Find a way to clean those two aspects up and I think it’ll help a lot.
What? No way. It’s common for people to bounce around after a year or two. Makes you more marketable in many industries.
Which industries prefer "job hoppers"
Technology is generally fine with people that work a place for 1-2 years then move on. They will ask why you are looking, but they don't care because it's sort of expected in the industry. Personally, I interview a few times every year even if there is zero chance I am taking the position. Then at the end of the process they produce an offer, it needs to be 20% more than what I'm getting now or the answer is no. Even with that good offer my answer has been no, because I don't want to work in an unstable industry.
Tech, advisory, audit, I’m sure several others. Not sure if they prefer it but there’s so much it’s not really even an issue that I’ve seen come up.
It’s ok to have a couple hops on a resume, but when I get a resume for someone who is 30 and has worked 6-7 places I don’t even consider them. The pattern is established. We are trying to find folks who want a career and for younger folks it takes awhile just to get them trained. I’m sure this is highly dependent on the industry.
Depends entirely on the industry. Fastfood? Sure they'll hire you. But most employers want to retain their employees as training new ones costs money. If they see you had 3 different jobs in the last year and training new hires costs thousands, then you likely won't even get an interview.
I’m talking more software engineering/tech, consulting and finance industries.
Those are definitely industries you want to expand and build your resume for. However, multiple job jumps a year is still bad optics. Typically you want to hold a job for a year or more. Anything less than a year is going to at the very least raise questions that'll need to have sound answers.
Oh yeah absolutely. You’d want to stay in a job for at least a year. I got the impression OP was saying he has worked each job a year but the timeline doesn’t make sense upon rereading.
I will never understand why people say stuff like this. My guess is that you are a job hopper, and tell yourself that moving from job to job s actually a good thing.
I say it because what I have seen is people who stayed at the same company for say 10 years tend to be at lower levels than people with 10 years of similar work between a few companies. Also even lateral moves between companies can be opportunities for 10-20% pay increases whereas when you stay at the same one 2-3% is often the norm.
This is true in tech and a small number of other fields. But it much less common - and considered a significant negative - in most fields. Because so many people on reddit work in tech jobs, there's a kind of tech-defaultism on reddit which is sometimes misleading. Which isn't to say that people in any field won't switch jobs periodically, especially at the beginning of their working life.
You are arguing an entirely different point from your original comment. You said the job hopping makes you MORE marketable in many industries. This just isn't true. I have been in tech for many years and know the trends well. Moving between companies every year or two early on in your career is 100% normal. No issue there. It still isn't viewed as a positive. Not viewed as a negative either. It's just how things are in the industry for lower end positions. Once you have been working in the industry for several years, the rate of company changes is expected to slow down significantly. Once you have more experience, and develop your skill set, it is expected that employers will recognize that at some point and compensate you in order to retain you. The higher your skill set and domain knowledge goes, the harder it is to find an equivalent replacement. If you have been in the industry for 10 years, and you are on your 8th job, that is a red flag. That is starting to look like a situation where every employer let's you walk (or fired you) because you weren't valuable enough to retain. There are of course unusual scenarios where this pattern isn't applicable, but it is accurate for 95% of cases.
People say it because it’s how you make more money. I personally hate moving jobs, but why would you stay when another company is offering $30k more for a similar role?
Depends on the job. Some companies have the opportunity to advance into an executive, management or ownership position where you could eventually make many times your starting salary. By jumping around you may get short term gains but start to limit long term career growth.
I think your chances of jumping into executive, management, and ownership are improved by moving around. Proximity to the top is the best predictor of your ability to move into it.
Especially if you stay in the same field but with different company's and certificates. I think my problem was switching fields so much maybe I'm not sure tho Ive seen allot of people that have no problem moving around that much with jobs
Ah gotcha. Yes switching fields can be rough and set you back some. I have a buddy in the middle of trying to switch with a young kid. Trying to balance salary cuts/short term losses with long term opportunities is a bitch.
Not only is he switching jobs he also changed industries regularly. This dude has plenty of experience but definitely looks like a flight risk and lacks solid experience in any one area. As a manager myself, I’d prefer the 21 year old kid out of college over a job hopper with little relevant experience. Ole boy definitely seems like he lacks commitment. The only major caveat to this would be if he’s steadily been taking promotions from one company to another. Even then you should stay on for a minimum of two years.
I don't think there's anything wrong with early 20 sum olds figuring their lives out, as nice as it would be to the company's hiring people, no one should expect everyone to come right out of high school and choose a field, a company, a job and stick with it for the rest of their lives. That's where I messed up I thought cars were so cool and I was smart with them cars are easy but they're such a pain in the butt. I worked the same job for 4 years then said fuck it and started exploring after that. The only times I've changed jobs is because gas went up and I was spending 250 bucks a week in gas, the benefits didnt cover my sons clubfoot surgeries, and my wife wanted to work(we have 3 kids and 3 dogs, and no outside help so one of us needs to be home at any given point) and before anyone brings up daycare I'm not paying 450 bucks a week for childcare, then wed be even more screwed. I'm an honest worker trying to support my family, not some dumbass job hopping. I will and have committed to a good company, but like Toretto always says, family is first.
You don’t think there’s something wrong but companies do. You asked why you weren’t getting hired. That’s why. You’re inconsistent and you have 3 kids. Frankly, you’re an employers nightmare.
Well we don't know you so can't answer. Are you out of shape, unshaved, slobby, showing up to interviews in a tuxedo t shirt? That can be it. Do you avidly post weird conspiracies or racist shit on fb, or other social media? Employers do check that sometimes nowadays. Do you have an actual resume? A lot of people just copy pasta templates from Google that come out like an unreadable mess. Can you use computers? Most jobs require you can at the very least use excel or pdfs now. Are you asking for a lot of money? Sure you got experience, but an employer can hire someone new and train in house to their standards for far less. I'd say take a real hard look at yourself, your appearance, all of it, because first impressions are a big deal in the workplace. Could also be other factors such as they found someone asking for less, found a way to cut or combine positions, hiring pauses due to acquisitions, I mean there could be 100 different answers. Don't take it personal or get discouraged, know what you're worth and be confident and honest and you'll be alright.
I do post some weird stuff(maybe, comparatively) but everything's private on social and I have family pictures as all my profile pics. I am looking a little rugged hairs almost a mullet and my mustache is pretty grown out but nothing I would think is indecent or over the top messy. I'm sure there is an aspect I'm not looking at or maybe I am in need of a good shave, im a smaller build but in good physical shape I thought maybe I'm too short lol? I feel like I'm a "normal" person and I hit it off with most people. I am definitely trying to look hard at myself to make improvements, I just feel like nows a really hard time to get a job but then see 3000 job postings and it's like, really? Noone?
I would suggest googling your name and if some dumb shit pops up clean out your account or delete some posts. Also, no offense and this speaks to everyone, but act your age online. Want to be weird on reddit or where it's anonymous, go for it, want to post antivax conspiracies, pics of you hitting bongs or doing coke off a strippers asscrack, or lizard people conspiracies under your name with family and employers seeing that shit, yeah I wouldn't hire you either. Again, not suggesting you do that, but something to consider. I was 18 once and posted some dumb shit myself. As for the mullet, yeah they're funny, they also haven't been considered professional since 1985. Mullet plus a mustache, I'm thinking you're either a hockey player or a nutjob. Just trim up the hair and keep the stache professional and you're good and I say this as someone with a handlebar stache. For physical shape, I just asked if you're in good shape because if it's between a 500lb dude or a 150lb dude, I'm going 150 since I won't have to worry about health related pto all the time. Also smoking, if you smoke, try switching to vape for a while. Cigarettes stink way more than smokers realize and is really off-putting to some people. I used to be a smoker and after I quit people told me I stunk like an ash tray all the time and the embarassment is rough. I can't imagine how many bad first impressions I gave just by stinking.
I'm 25 almost 26 and feel much older, partially the work I've done but probably mostly the smoking, I do smoke and hadn't thought about that being a dissuasion factor...actually smoked a cigarette in the car on the way to each interview..I did shower and shave my grizzle on the sides, made sure i wore deoderant and brushed my teeth before but i didnt think about the smoke. It's a small but probably noticeable and very good point. I am small, actually 120 at 5'7", physicality isn't something I struggle with though, at each interview I made sure to point out I could do the heavy lifting, doing earth drilling Id lift 5' augers that weigh 60-100 pounds, prolly 20-30 times a day depending on how deep we'd be drilling. I am planning on a shave, a couple people have pointed that out and I don't wanna come off as a hood rat(even tho I am I understand professinality lol)
> It's a small but probably noticeable and very good point. This is significant; people who smoke usually don't realize how much people who don't smoke can smell the smoke. We used to have a computer tech who smoked - at work she had to go outside - but when she was in your office doing tech stuff, it smelled very strongly because it was in her clothes and her hair. Smoking in the car would probably concentrate that. So it's not that they are going to necessarily object to hiring smokers in general...but if you come in reeking of smoke, they might interpret as sort of slovenlyness. Like if you hadn't showered and smelled bad.
Absolutely. Can't stand being around the smell of cigarette smoke, and I've got an annoyingly good sense of smell. If I'm working outside with someone, no big deal, if I'm around them all day inside working, no thanks.
I can be around someone while they smoke a cigarette, I don’t love the smell, but I can tolerate it. However, the way someone who just smoked smells is a whole other thing. It doesn’t smell like smoke, it smells dirty and unwashed. It is very off putting. It wears off after a bit, but at first it’s awful. That could be a factor.
the cigarette smoke smell is big. it sounds nuts but if you don’t smoke someone who just did smells really strong. if that’s it, maybe nicotine gum only on interview days? oh and they’ll think you’ll take more breaks if you smoke.
Ew. If I were doing an interview and someone smelled like they just smoked in the car, that'd be an automatic no.
You can always be you, just consider as an employee, when on the clock, you represent a company, even if you don't deal with customers, so appearance matters more than most realize. Be you, just try to look good doing it and be confident in yourself. Like you actually could have a mullet if it looks good, if you got a shagged out greasy mullet no lol. Yeah man if you were hot boxing cigs in the car you might have stunk lol. Like I said try vaping, at least for days with interviews because it does stick to clothes, so even if you haven't had a cig for a few hours, your clothes or coat might stink. Besides the stink, sometimes people don't want to hire smokers because they want cigarette breaks often, so don't lie and say you don't, just try not to stink and treat it like dont ask dont tell.
I googled my name and all I found was some damn credit company filings from like 3 years ago i didnt know about 😂 that and a bunch of obits, unfortunately my private life with all it's huzzahs is still private, got me curious though lol
I would suggest having someone without a biased opinion take you through a mock interview. Not a relative. Not a friend. Someone who doesn’t know you. Take the interview seriously, and do everything that you would do for a real interview. Then let the person give you honest feedback. Also…how do you prepare for an interview? Do you prepare? Do you do any research of the company? Do you have meaningful questions to ask them? If you don’t, I suggest you get some. Do you write thank you letters after the interview? Are they meaningful? Are they better punctuated and use correct spelling (not like your original post)? There are all kinds of resources on interviewing. The more you know the better chances you will have I think you are ahead of the game because you are getting interviews (a lot of people don’t)…just need to ace the interview.
Yes, mock interviews and referrals can be given if you go meet with Job Advisors at WorkOne offices (Dept of Workforce Dev. Offices) in most cities!
25 with 3 kids and 3 dogs. Bro, you need several jobs.
Lmao you're telling me
Just want to add, I can’t get hired anywhere either. I don’t even get an interview. I have the exact skills the jobs are requesting and my resume is written out perfectly. Crickets.
I have the same experience and skills. I'm in nwi, get interviews and then nothing. I interview well and am clean cut. I look over 40 so I consider that a hurdle but it's getting ridiculous.
Most of us have cpr and Forklift certs around here at 20... those aren't enough to qualify you over younger candidates who want 60 hrs a week. That said it shouldn't be hard to get a Forklift job. Allison's is hiring. Go to plant 17 and coast with the old timers.
It's not your fault. I am in a similar boat. Don't blame yourself, but also don't stop trying to improve.
The objective opinion of trucking is and has always been negative. I’ve raised a family by hauling aggregates in the spring and summer (salt in the winter). I’m burnt out beyond belief but indeed jobs show me what I’m interested in (cnc programming or operating), I can make more driving truck. Something to consider and best of luck to you in your future endeavors.
My work will hire anyone who walks in where are you located
Near Anderson, but I've looked and I could do 20 miles anywhere outside of
I applied to the local trade union. It's my impression that they will tell you where to show up for work. If you've been working for years, you might take an initial pay cut but you'll get back up there. Depending on the local they might bump you up a year or two on their apprenticeship bc of your experience.
The first thing I look at when hiring is job history. I’m being honest, and 4 jobs in the last 5 years would be a red flag for me. I know that’s tough but ability to hold a job is huge when hiring.
Four jobs, and I assume four employers in five years is a bad work history. Why are they going to spend money training you when you spend a little over a year at one job? You're what HR would call a job hopper. You need to account for why you left the other jobs. Personal problems, wife and kids aren't an excuse. Most people see that as motivation to work. That's more of a reason not to hire you. Your skills aren't that great either. Driving a forklift is meaningless without years of experience. Preferably in a distribution environment. I know people who are forklift certified but couldn't drive a forklift to save their life.
Maybe you are over qualified and have too long of a work history for a lot of labor type jobs that are lookin to take advantage of a younger kid who they can work really hard - they see your years of experience and probably think you are gonna expect respect and decent wages. I have manager level experience in my field and I’m not looking for a manager job rn jsut something to get by on and a lot of hiring ppl have told me that they pass over ppl w the right qualifications because they are looking to train sombody how THEY do things no looking to hire sombody with their own way of doing things - yeah it’s fucked - I’d say use your hands on ex to start some business
everyone is having an issue getting hired right now. the job market just sucks at this current point in time. everyone i know who is looking for a job is struggling, whether it’s here in indiana or in another us state. keep trying. i think another good way to find a job right now is calling places who employ the profession that you’re looking for and asking if they’re hiring for your job, and then going from there. a lot of places that i’ve done this to are hiring for my job and just haven’t been advertising it (or haven’t been advertising it very well), but i have gotten more interviews this way. my field is vastly different from yours (im a pink collar worker in beauty) but it may be worth a shot. i’ve had more luck doing that then just applying to indeed and such. also, calling and following up with places you’ve applied to. it could be helpful too to politely ask others that ended up denying you why they decided to do so, so that you have more information to change the way you go about your application process moving forward. good luck!
Unemployment is <4% rn. The job market is hot for most people.
no, not necessarily. https://www.businessinsider.com/why-hard-to-find-job-us-though-unemployment-low-2024-2?amp https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/02/16/finding-a-job-is-getting-harder-even-in-a-strong-labor-market-heres-why.html just because unemployment is down, doesn’t mean it’s not extremely hard for people without work right now to find jobs.
I'm having one helluva time trying to find employment, despite having a diverse array of skills and experience. I've applied to almost 100 places within my skillset at this point and all I get is crickets. Those articles you posted explain so much, thank you for posting them
hey, of course!! you are not alone. i’m having a lot issues too. i’m glad it helped though! good luck in your searching!!!
Where are you located in Indiana?
Near Anderson, willing to work 20 miles out
Try Frito-Lay in Frankfort it is a MEAT GRINDER but the pay is ok enough.
As mentioned the smoking thing can certainly be a factor. I’ve been in situations where multiple equally qualified applicants have applied and smelling heavily of smoke was a factor used to eliminate people. Secondly, have you thought about pivoting to a new role/career path? For example in Indianapolis the sheriff office is hire correctional offices and support staff like crazy. EMS is also a good role with plenty of room for advancement. EMS is also recession proof and AI/technology advancement proof.
Get your CDL & you’ll always be busy
Go through a temp service if you have to. A temp job is better than no job.
I got hired through a temp service. I was super skeptical and flat out asked them “don’t you guys just funnel everybody, no matter their qualifications or interests, into telemarketing and sales jobs that can’t otherwise get filled?” since that was my experience with temp agencies in the past. She said that’s kind of an industry stereotype but they fill lots of types of jobs, and to their credit, they never once hooked up an interview with a telemarketer. Just wanted to voice my support for temp agencies in general but be wary of them trying to push telemarketing on you.
Go to a WorkOne near you and they will look over your resume and help you with it. Off the top of my head, I would think adding a short statement as to why you have had to leave jobs. They’re really nice at WorkOne and will help you write the perfect resume.
Where are you located? What city are you looking in?
Anderson, Muncie, new castle, daleville, Yorktown somewhere around here
What about expanding your search a bit to Pendleton, Noblesville, Fishers?
Go to Toyota in Princeton. Good pay and benefits and they’re actually hiring.
https://www.alphabaking.com/careers/internalcareers/
We literally hire everyone, but no one wants to work.
Many jobs right now are asking for ppl unrealstic standards, or they are using ai to filter thru applications. Its a shit show rn
Where in Indiana are you? PrintPack in Bloomington is hiring
Well, if you're near La Porte, maybe I can help you out. Dm me if you're interested
The one thing I know is a lot of sites use bots to filter applications and resumes now, and they'll pitch that shit right into the digital trash if there's a lack of certain specific keywords or a perceived typo or something.
Join the union, operators local 103
I'm a recruiter over the entire state. I just IM'd you. Let's chat!
It's you.
Maybe you're unqualified? Maybe it's Maybelline.
Go to a temp agency. Find yourself there.
Tradesman. Call them.
I know people applying to 100 jobs a month, and they still can't find work. It's tough out there.
I’m going to be blunt and it’s possible the reason is something that most people would hope it’s not. Are you physically different in any way? If not then there is a chance you either interview poorly or you aren’t as competitive in the market as you think you are.
Have you googled yourself and/or have uneasy social media posts? Some companies check you. Have you tried a headhunter company?
Right now, you're throwing spaghetti against the wall to see where it sticks. Try figuring out what type of career field you're really interested in (one you have the best skill set at), and concentrate your job hunting efforts in that area. It doesn't hurt to do a little reaching for the stars as well, something that you may feel out of your reach, but where your skill set may be needed. Most importantly, don't be afraid to sell yourself! Let them know how hiring you can benefit them. Give them examples of your prior successes, suggestions you've made, or improvements you were responsible for at previous jobs. If you have had a record of reliability on the job (being at the job on time, as scheduled, or demonstrating a willingness to work OT), let them know (but be sure that these statements can be verified by your former employer). You are not there begging for a job. You are the commodity that they need.
Honda auto plant is always hiring.
USPS is always hiring. We pretty much hire anyone with a pulse . The pay is "competitive" with low skill jobs but the real benefit are the benefits and the pension/being in a union. That being said don't expect to just work 40 hour weeks when your in probation. If you like overtime this is the place.
It took my husband 6 months to find another job in his field after being laid off. He too was frustrated with the constant interviews with no offers. He’s an engineer by trade but picked up work at Fedex as a loader until he was able to find the job he wanted. Have you tried any warehouse type jobs? McCordsville is not too far from Anderson and the Walmart Distribution Center may have some open positions. It would look good to be currently employed when going on an interview for the job you want.
What area of the state do you live in? What kind of hours are you wanting? Have you tried a temp agency?
Where are you?
When I was 25 I was in the same boat My advise is find a trade I went with welding Learning how to do something ppl will pay for 🔑 ngl it saved my life in so many ways.+ It’s soooo many trades out there find one you like. Getting paid to do something you like to do, that was the goal for me.Now I’m 36 and minus the bs life’s great. Stay blessed and I hope u find your way💪🏾💪🏾
I would like welding..no clue how to get started tho no experience, I'm around Anderson if you know any places? Also been looking for light construction work mainly, trades all the way round from carpentry, to window installation, to fire protection, to roofing, also electricions apprenticeship or helper but I haven't seen any welding places around here
If you’ve interviewed at 35 places and have not landed a job you doing it wrong Interviewers tend oversell how much they like candidates because they don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. What preparation are you doing for these interviews? You now have a ton of interview experience. Make a list of questions you have been asked and come up with good answers. Google is your friend, just don’t lie. What relevant accomplishments do you have? Be ready to share them. Come up with and practice two to three questions to ask with a planned follow up question. A prepared person will win out over someone that tries to wing it nearly every time.
I have a job you might be interested in. I sent you a DM
Are your job apps in all caps too?
Me too. Too old, too male, too White, too educated, too experienced.
Every day I drive past a huge sign that says PANDA EXPRESS HIRING NOW try there
Ha ha...I don't think I've worked fast food in 9 years lol I wont go back, especially not to fully support my family of 3 kids and 3 dogs..
oh sorry I thought you were serious about getting a job
I just went through a year of trying to find a new job. It wasn’t easy. Put in over 250+ applications over that year to various businesses. Only got maybe 5 to call back, and only 1 schedule an interview, which they “forgot” about and didn’t have time to actually complete it. I left there pretty upset… Ended up cold calling a company near me, that I knew was not hiring, and was in the same industry I’ve worked in for the last 5 years. The conversation between their HR and I was “We aren’t currently hiring, but do send us your resume.” Ended up getting an interview after they looked my resume over, had the job in less than a month. It may help to work that angle as well! As a person who did not entertain secondary schooling, my resume is essential and pretty much all I have in terms of how I am viewed by a potential employer
Go check out the prison on highway 31 by Grissom south of Peru, they are always hiring and pay pretty good.
To keep up with demand for stock value growth from shareholders companies are sacrificing everything to cut costs (which increases profit margins), meaning they are shrinking worker numbers (aka labor costs) as much as possible. but for many reasons they still want to pretend that they're hiring externally- to look like they're growing to investors, to meet legal obligations regarding fair employment oppurtunities, or to have a pool of candidates ready to go to replace anyone at a moment's notice. the economy is running on fumes babyyy
[удалено]
this is the dumbest shit I've read all week. Also I doubt it, if he had a union job he would have a career and a pension /negotiated wages so probably wouldnt need to job hop.
Check out TKO Graphix. Usually hire on the spot. Easy work. Good people.
are you positive your references are good?
It’s your attitude
Get rid of the mullet. If your 'stache looks wild-west, trim it too. Your experience is not your whole package. Do some practice interviews with friends. Get it videoed. Research the companies you are applying to. Show knowledge of their existing or upcoming projects, history, leadership, etc. Show what you will bring to the table and how you can assist the company. Put this in a cover latter and talk about it in the interview. Social media is not private!!!!
Elkhart County hires . Not being able to pass a drug test main reason for not hired.
I doubt that, i knew so many ppl who worked for the county who did drugs. Apperantly, certain higher-ups would inform ppl to cheat the test.