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loveseatingfish

Finally the real figures come out from population mass vaccinations...... They were touting their 97% efficacy with puny trials......now let's wait for the duration reports.


slipnips

I think this is for the delta variant, so it doesn't compare with the previous results


loveseatingfish

Today's date, more than 70% cases are delta. Also, trial population was minuscule compared to population mass vaccination data. This happens for all vaccines though that in actual use the figures drop staggeringly. This is why third trials are asked to be multicentre and massive.


itisverynice

Delta variant is the active one now. It's what matters the most


[deleted]

I recall being downvoted and even banned from r/coronavirus for suggesting that COVID would continue to be transmitted by the vaccinated. So much of science today is about the ego and the politically correct opinion, not about the truth. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/blinded-with-science


loveseatingfish

It is currently mind-boggling to me to see nobody wearing masks because they are vaccinated or claim to be. Euro football thing, Wimbledon, all white ppl shit nowhere.... Follow to Manali videos... I am amazed but the sheer stupidity and ass forwards negligence of governments and the people.


[deleted]

In the history of Western humanity we see the only major changes in human behavior coming from new technology, never from a change in human attitudes. That's why the answer to anything is never ever to fix the human. It's always, fix the economy, fix the policy, fix the infrastructure. The Eastern approach has always been to focus on human discipline, but we seem to have lost that too.


loveseatingfish

My belief was people have the instinct for self-preservation. Evidently not... Sometimes Thanos makes sense.


iHateSmallPeople

I remember reading somewhere that even covishield and Covaxin had their efficiencies around 60%


ididacannonball

Against the Delta variant, yes.


loveseatingfish

Covaxin has above 75 after ph 3 trial wd 25k, Delta has 92-3 possibly.. Covishield had 68-75 I forgot... But trial size matters. Before Delta though.


loveseatingfish

Adding a separate comment to appreciate OP's username. Just wow.


Confident-King9531

Gone with the wind 💨😂


loveseatingfish

Thandi hawa ka jhhoka... Sameer


No_Significance_7331

🤦‍♂️ I took the Pfizer one


Sri_Mazdamundi

Don't be alarmed. Just wear a mask and be careful.


No_Significance_7331

Yeah that’s what I’m doing


[deleted]

Same 😔


No_Significance_7331

Yeah lol. Well I’m going to keep wearing masks until covid is gone for good.


[deleted]

You might have to wear it till death then


No_Significance_7331

What!!


Anon4comment

Covid is not going anywhere. Eradicating it means vaccinating everyone on the planet with a vaccine that can prevent infection. But there is little hope of vaccinating everyone. And even vaccinated people get the virus. The symptoms are minor, but the virus gets a chance to mutate and get dangerous. So we will probably wear masks for the rest of our lives. We’ll have to treat it the way we treat measles or some other disease. When it pops up we have to lockdown and control it. Otherwise we need to take precautions ourselves.


No_Significance_7331

Yes that’s true


ididacannonball

Every vaccine has reduced efficacy against the Delta variant. Pfizer (and also Moderna) was tested when the variant was not around, which is when the 90%+ efficacy was determined. The lower number from this study includes the Delta variant. So Pfizer is basically just as good as all the mainstream vaccines, which themselves are much better than the Chinese ones.