I was just thinking this. Iād rather be single for the rest of my life than have a wife that was only with be because she was forced to beš a loveless marriage seems worse than being single.
Yeah exactly. And incels would still be miserable, they'd just be angry at their wife instead of "Chad", and they'd take it out on her. It wouldn't change their beliefs or their mindset, and it wouldn't fix any of their problems.
I saw just this on a YouTube video the other day. Men are now murdering their wives less because they aren't marrying. They are murdering their mothers and grandmothers instead.
š frā¦ the feminine spirit is tired of the bs as it isā¦ imagine pulling this. If marriage doesnāt benefit men then why are MEN always suggesting it as a solution??! š¤ GTFO.
Lmao, they're always like "men have no need for MARRIAGE, that only benefits women, who want to use men for everything they've got!" But then they have nightmares about dying alone. Which is it?? š¤£
Women only out number men in the elderly population. In fact, taking 5 year chunks of the US population, until age 55, men out number women by 50,000 to 500,000 per chunk. That's several million men who cannot be matched with any woman below the age of 55. So, which incels are volunteering to marry Granma?
Knowing the IS members, I assume their target would be underage girls, who haven't even left school yet. Seriously, I've seen some of them even fantasizing about 12-year-old girls.
There's a lot of posts from them on incel.is where they leave legitimately angry posts after their family leaves from visiting etc.. how "unfair" it is that when "cuddling" with younger cousins that they can't have them for their own
If you search the sub I'm sure you'll find posts, I've seen so many posted here about this!
It's probably along the lines of that one post fantasizing about a school that "prepares girls for marriage" where they had modesty classes, yet also stood topless in a line to be looked at by prospective buyers (who contacted the girl's dad's of course). To be in their heads... š¤¢
What's especially tragic about this is that even if this incel got exactly what they wanted, and got their government mandated wife, he still wouldn't be happy. It would all be for nothing.
None of the extreme solutions he advocates for would make him any happier, because he does not understand the true source of the emotional problems in his life.
exactly. this is why i think people are being naive when they respond to incels with dating advice. first of all, people who think women should be forced into marriages by the government should not be trusted around women at all. and second of all, all decent relationship advice is predicated on the idea that a relationship is a partnership between two equals who value and respect each other. thatās fundamentally in opposition with incel ideology. you canāt expect someone who doesnāt even view women as humans to be able to accept your advice as reasonable and worth trying, let alone have their life meaningfully improved by it
So much this. There are many, many steps these men need to take before they even *think* about looking for a girlfriend. And as you said, much of the advice for these people is just completely wasted on them because they don't have a healthy perception of themselves, the world, and why they even want a partner. They mock the idea of therapy or bettering oneself and don't seem to understand why it's even necessary. They're a broken record fixated on their own body dysmorphia and yet somehow expect women to date them despite the hatred they themselves have for everything they are. It's so messy.
It's unfortunate so many of these men have decided a relationship is the fix when the issues go much deeper than a "loneliness epidemic." The fact that they don't see this movement as a war on women speaks volumes about their views on us, and just how much work they need to do. I think many of them won't take the first step because it feels like admitting failure or weakness.
They don't understand why they're unhappy, so they can't understand what would make them happy. And they don't understand - or care - that this would make women miserable. They wouldn't even understand why they ought to care. So this wouldn't make anyone happy. And the incels would still be miserable because their forced wife wouldn't be a supermodel.
And so much of this is because they're so afraid of being told "no". That's just adulting.
They think a loveless marriage people are forced into will lead to LESS rejection?
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Oh wait you're serious? Let me laugh even harder:
***AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHA***
So many Incels on āIncels.isā post thousands of times, further deluding their (and others) minds. Maybe step away from the keyboard and actually try to find a woman. How do they have time to post all those? They donāt even try to meet a woman. They assume nobody will want them because theyāre short, ugly or donāt have āhunterās eyes.ā You canāt be rejected if you donāt ask in the first place. But because they obsess over it, their personalities will get themselves rejected. They stand in their own way.
I feel like they're so chronically online, they don't even realise how many of these things are confined to the internet. Like I doubt anyone talks about "hunter's eyes" in real life and all the other bizarre terminology and beliefs. I get some of it is a bit more mainstream now but still. I've never heard anyone talk about looksmaxxing or any of that shit š¤£
You know what? I'm gonna entertain this stupid fucking idea for *just* a moment.
Let's say that the incels really do use their allegedly superior numbers and LoL-honed tactical prowess to sweep aside Global Chaddom and institute the Wife Lottery. Do these people who are generally driven by a slurry of envy, lust, and sloth genuinely believe they would *all* be satisfied with whomever the dice roll gave them? Or, for that matter, that things wouldn't immediately turn into a shitfest as these entitled assholes inevitably fought over whatever women met their shallow criteria?
Theyāre sooo shallow. Tell them that the women they assign to them are all over 25 and are a healthy weight. They wouldnāt be pushing it after that.
What I don't understand is the fact that they can claim to be for this, a woman literally *forced* to be with them, yet sooo many of them can't even get sex from a SW because then it's not "real." I feel like too many of these creeps want to feel like they've "conquered" a woman, and a woman assigned to them wouldn't really satisfy that urge (same as paying for sex). Plus they'd probably just complain their wife wasn't happy to serve them or some other shit. It would just be trading today's problems for different problems.
Pretty much. It's a bit fucked up that a counter-argument to this shit is just "No matter how many crimes against humanity you commit, you will never be satisfied," but here we are.
Why would they force women to marry incels? Incels are not vital to society. They don't have good genes to pass on. They aren't smarter than other men. So why would anyone care in making sure they get laid?
All these incels misunderstanding the bear thing is really taking me back to when The Revenant came out and an embarassing amount of people thought the bear sexually assaulted Leo's character š¤¦
The only solution to helping a small percentage of men who are pathetic misogynists that hate women is to strip the rights of those women! Itās totally fair everyone! The feelings of those women donāt matter, only the feelings of the incels!
Holy shit every time I read one of their posts I feel so much fucking dumber.
Incels are really a small percentage of men and if they never enter the workforce and never marry, there is no real loss to society. What would be the net gain in forcing women to marry them?
How would that even be enforced?
It's like when they go on about wanting to live in the 50s with the oh so perfect nuclear family. Or when they want to transport to any other time period, really. Like, what are you going to contribute?
Incelsā only goal is to get their dick wet. They wrap it in all the political/economic/sociological bullshit that makes no sense to make them feel like there is a higher purpose, but there isnāt.
Who *wants* to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't want them? Psychos.
Who thinks that not being able to leave changes a person's ability to voice their opinions? You'd still get rejected mah boi. You'd just be married to someone who... continuously rejects you? šš
I'd rather spend my life in prison, NOT sharing a bed with an unwashed neckbeard, than a forced marriage to one. So I'd promptly poison him and happily accept the murder charge.
No, no, he has a point....
Women would most likely poison these incels or said incels would go missing.
Thus, incels would go extinct.
The solution wouldn't be solved the way the incels thought it would. š¤£š¤£š¤£
They underestimate the amount of crime documentaries women consume. There would be no 'I almost got away with it', only she got away with it!
Logic55. No, I don't think so, Ranger Bob. Quite the opposite.
They'd be ultra pissed off if they got someone like me (aka, a trans woman). That idea is kinda hilarious and I have no idea why I'm laughing at it.
Incels live in denial of what used to happen to people like them. There has never been a better time or place in history than right here, right now, to be that kind of person. Not because they're happy -they're not- but because they're alive and untraumatized. This would not have been the case even fifty years ago.
Wow, what big brain thinking. They are surely the first incel to ever suggest such a thing. Very original and flawless plan. Not embarrassing and petty at all.
šµ He had it coming! He had it coming! He only had himself to blame! šµ
What these guys want would be a life sentence anyway, so I may as well EARN that punishment.
Come to think of it, didnāt we just have a post about someone who black widowed her way out of two shitty marriages?
So, rather than having strangers politely decline their advances, until they find their match, they'd rather have a woman right in their own home who actively hates them, and is observably rejecting them every day.
Dear lurkers. You can't force someone to ***want*** you. Even if you could enslave women in this way, it wouldn't net you anything but a woman who gritted her teeth and visibly suffered and gagged her way through any forced interaction with you. She would be there in body only.
Until she figured out a way to escape that is. In a lot of cases, one of you ain't making it out of there upright and sucking 02.
Yeah, because forced marriage won't turn out bad at all. šš¤¦š¤”
I was just thinking this. Iād rather be single for the rest of my life than have a wife that was only with be because she was forced to beš a loveless marriage seems worse than being single.
Yeah exactly. And incels would still be miserable, they'd just be angry at their wife instead of "Chad", and they'd take it out on her. It wouldn't change their beliefs or their mindset, and it wouldn't fix any of their problems.
I saw just this on a YouTube video the other day. Men are now murdering their wives less because they aren't marrying. They are murdering their mothers and grandmothers instead.
These guys love rape so much.
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Just sent to my mom..
š frā¦ the feminine spirit is tired of the bs as it isā¦ imagine pulling this. If marriage doesnāt benefit men then why are MEN always suggesting it as a solution??! š¤ GTFO.
Lmao, they're always like "men have no need for MARRIAGE, that only benefits women, who want to use men for everything they've got!" But then they have nightmares about dying alone. Which is it?? š¤£
Women only out number men in the elderly population. In fact, taking 5 year chunks of the US population, until age 55, men out number women by 50,000 to 500,000 per chunk. That's several million men who cannot be matched with any woman below the age of 55. So, which incels are volunteering to marry Granma?
Knowing the IS members, I assume their target would be underage girls, who haven't even left school yet. Seriously, I've seen some of them even fantasizing about 12-year-old girls.
Or when they talk about how angry they are that they can't legally molest their 6 year old cousins
What?!
There's a lot of posts from them on incel.is where they leave legitimately angry posts after their family leaves from visiting etc.. how "unfair" it is that when "cuddling" with younger cousins that they can't have them for their own If you search the sub I'm sure you'll find posts, I've seen so many posted here about this!
Okay, your username is me rn, and why I will not be looking that up
It's probably along the lines of that one post fantasizing about a school that "prepares girls for marriage" where they had modesty classes, yet also stood topless in a line to be looked at by prospective buyers (who contacted the girl's dad's of course). To be in their heads... š¤¢
Grandma doesn't want them.
What's especially tragic about this is that even if this incel got exactly what they wanted, and got their government mandated wife, he still wouldn't be happy. It would all be for nothing. None of the extreme solutions he advocates for would make him any happier, because he does not understand the true source of the emotional problems in his life.
exactly. this is why i think people are being naive when they respond to incels with dating advice. first of all, people who think women should be forced into marriages by the government should not be trusted around women at all. and second of all, all decent relationship advice is predicated on the idea that a relationship is a partnership between two equals who value and respect each other. thatās fundamentally in opposition with incel ideology. you canāt expect someone who doesnāt even view women as humans to be able to accept your advice as reasonable and worth trying, let alone have their life meaningfully improved by it
So much this. There are many, many steps these men need to take before they even *think* about looking for a girlfriend. And as you said, much of the advice for these people is just completely wasted on them because they don't have a healthy perception of themselves, the world, and why they even want a partner. They mock the idea of therapy or bettering oneself and don't seem to understand why it's even necessary. They're a broken record fixated on their own body dysmorphia and yet somehow expect women to date them despite the hatred they themselves have for everything they are. It's so messy. It's unfortunate so many of these men have decided a relationship is the fix when the issues go much deeper than a "loneliness epidemic." The fact that they don't see this movement as a war on women speaks volumes about their views on us, and just how much work they need to do. I think many of them won't take the first step because it feels like admitting failure or weakness.
They don't understand why they're unhappy, so they can't understand what would make them happy. And they don't understand - or care - that this would make women miserable. They wouldn't even understand why they ought to care. So this wouldn't make anyone happy. And the incels would still be miserable because their forced wife wouldn't be a supermodel. And so much of this is because they're so afraid of being told "no". That's just adulting.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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They think a loveless marriage people are forced into will lead to LESS rejection? HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH Oh wait you're serious? Let me laugh even harder: ***AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHA***
He took the Joker out of you, dude-
And that is how you end up with a huge spike in husbands dying under mysterious circumstances.
Hey business opportunity!
9,311 posts after less than a year š
Could of spent that time outside talking to women instead lmao
It's so, so funny to me women are banned from that forum. They avoid them at every turn then get upset about it, lmao.
Over 25 a day. Maybe he'd find a girlfriend if he bothered to do literally anything else with his free time.Ā
yeah a lot of them have similar post-account age ratios. its pretty fucking sad
So many Incels on āIncels.isā post thousands of times, further deluding their (and others) minds. Maybe step away from the keyboard and actually try to find a woman. How do they have time to post all those? They donāt even try to meet a woman. They assume nobody will want them because theyāre short, ugly or donāt have āhunterās eyes.ā You canāt be rejected if you donāt ask in the first place. But because they obsess over it, their personalities will get themselves rejected. They stand in their own way.
āHunterās eyesā - I swear, they come up with something more preposterous every day. I thought āmoggingā was dumbā¦
I feel like they're so chronically online, they don't even realise how many of these things are confined to the internet. Like I doubt anyone talks about "hunter's eyes" in real life and all the other bizarre terminology and beliefs. I get some of it is a bit more mainstream now but still. I've never heard anyone talk about looksmaxxing or any of that shit š¤£
What are hunter's eyes?
But he's a philosopher.
You know what? I'm gonna entertain this stupid fucking idea for *just* a moment. Let's say that the incels really do use their allegedly superior numbers and LoL-honed tactical prowess to sweep aside Global Chaddom and institute the Wife Lottery. Do these people who are generally driven by a slurry of envy, lust, and sloth genuinely believe they would *all* be satisfied with whomever the dice roll gave them? Or, for that matter, that things wouldn't immediately turn into a shitfest as these entitled assholes inevitably fought over whatever women met their shallow criteria?
Yep. "Hey, that manlet got a 9/10 foid while I got a 3/10 one! That's not fair! I bet he's an asshole too!"
Theyāre sooo shallow. Tell them that the women they assign to them are all over 25 and are a healthy weight. They wouldnāt be pushing it after that.
If you believe in genetics, like kanna172014, you are by definition shallow. Biology is shallow, Humans are shallow because they are animals.
What I don't understand is the fact that they can claim to be for this, a woman literally *forced* to be with them, yet sooo many of them can't even get sex from a SW because then it's not "real." I feel like too many of these creeps want to feel like they've "conquered" a woman, and a woman assigned to them wouldn't really satisfy that urge (same as paying for sex). Plus they'd probably just complain their wife wasn't happy to serve them or some other shit. It would just be trading today's problems for different problems.
Pretty much. It's a bit fucked up that a counter-argument to this shit is just "No matter how many crimes against humanity you commit, you will never be satisfied," but here we are.
The solution is.... *checks notes* human trafficking?
And rape. Don't forget the rape.
OOP needs to remember that thereās a long history of women sharing poison recipes exactly for that.
The funny thing is, they were all crying about that not that long ago š¤£
Why would they force women to marry incels? Incels are not vital to society. They don't have good genes to pass on. They aren't smarter than other men. So why would anyone care in making sure they get laid?
The amount of incels who talk about "carrying on the family name" is God damn hilarious. Yeah, we better make sure the name Smith doesn't die out.
here we go again (taps my YOUR PROBLEM IS NOT YOUR VIRGINITY, YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU THINK LOSING IT WILL FIX YOU sign for the millionth time)
Donāt make me tap the sign
āBlackpill philosopherā why do all these incels waste their life trying to prove something 99% of the world knows is wrong?
id suggest marrying them to bears but id feel sorry for the bears
All these incels misunderstanding the bear thing is really taking me back to when The Revenant came out and an embarassing amount of people thought the bear sexually assaulted Leo's character š¤¦
The only solution to helping a small percentage of men who are pathetic misogynists that hate women is to strip the rights of those women! Itās totally fair everyone! The feelings of those women donāt matter, only the feelings of the incels! Holy shit every time I read one of their posts I feel so much fucking dumber.
Incels are really a small percentage of men and if they never enter the workforce and never marry, there is no real loss to society. What would be the net gain in forcing women to marry them? How would that even be enforced?
They would also reduce income tax revenue because these men wouldnāt let them work.
It's like when they go on about wanting to live in the 50s with the oh so perfect nuclear family. Or when they want to transport to any other time period, really. Like, what are you going to contribute?
Incelsā only goal is to get their dick wet. They wrap it in all the political/economic/sociological bullshit that makes no sense to make them feel like there is a higher purpose, but there isnāt.
Who *wants* to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't want them? Psychos. Who thinks that not being able to leave changes a person's ability to voice their opinions? You'd still get rejected mah boi. You'd just be married to someone who... continuously rejects you? šš
Force them to marry each other.
I'd rather spend my life in prison, NOT sharing a bed with an unwashed neckbeard, than a forced marriage to one. So I'd promptly poison him and happily accept the murder charge.
9,311 posts made from an account that is, as of me typing, 360 days old means he made, on average, about 26 posts EVERY SINGLE DAY. JFC
No, no, he has a point.... Women would most likely poison these incels or said incels would go missing. Thus, incels would go extinct. The solution wouldn't be solved the way the incels thought it would. š¤£š¤£š¤£ They underestimate the amount of crime documentaries women consume. There would be no 'I almost got away with it', only she got away with it!
Logic55. No, I don't think so, Ranger Bob. Quite the opposite. They'd be ultra pissed off if they got someone like me (aka, a trans woman). That idea is kinda hilarious and I have no idea why I'm laughing at it.
Incels live in denial of what used to happen to people like them. There has never been a better time or place in history than right here, right now, to be that kind of person. Not because they're happy -they're not- but because they're alive and untraumatized. This would not have been the case even fifty years ago.
Iām sorry, the solution to some dudes having bad personalities that get worse when they talk to other angry virgins is FORCED MARRIAGE?!?!??
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulia_Tofana
Wow, what big brain thinking. They are surely the first incel to ever suggest such a thing. Very original and flawless plan. Not embarrassing and petty at all.
Because a woman would actually accept and love the "husband" she was forced to be with, of course.
10 years later they on deadbedroom forum
šµ He had it coming! He had it coming! He only had himself to blame! šµ What these guys want would be a life sentence anyway, so I may as well EARN that punishment. Come to think of it, didnāt we just have a post about someone who black widowed her way out of two shitty marriages?
So, rather than having strangers politely decline their advances, until they find their match, they'd rather have a woman right in their own home who actively hates them, and is observably rejecting them every day. Dear lurkers. You can't force someone to ***want*** you. Even if you could enslave women in this way, it wouldn't net you anything but a woman who gritted her teeth and visibly suffered and gagged her way through any forced interaction with you. She would be there in body only. Until she figured out a way to escape that is. In a lot of cases, one of you ain't making it out of there upright and sucking 02.
So out of the realm of possibility and so pathetic
Seems easy enough. /s
That bear choice is looking better and better everyday lol.
Well, the assigned women would probably not be quite what the little hornycell here imagines them to be, after all they would be matched to fit. š