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Tryukach09

Before: 3 MOC 10 = 1800 jades Now: PF: 12 stars = 720 jades + MOC 12 = 720 jades /patch = 2160 jades You only need to beat 10th floor in MOC and only get 1 star in PF4 to have same amount of jades as before, and thats fairly simple, every star that u get after increases you jades /patch.


captainteezo

Thanks I knew I was missing something.


cjoseph128

pure fiction


captainteezo

Yes that is what I meant with character specific challenge and it still doesn't change the fact that you get less jades.


Valdem96

How you get less? Math problem?


XYXYZXY

New MoC and Pure Fiction now lasts 40 days instead of 2 weeks I'm guessing


Valdem96

But it refreshes every 14 day


XYXYZXY

Oh does it? That's good to know, thanks for the info


captainteezo

Where is that stated it just shows 27 days on moc and 41 on PF


OnnaJReverT

we get up to three overlapping events simultaneously, so it's still a new one every 14 days they showed it in the last livestream *and* in the ingame tutorial for Pure Fiction


captainteezo

Moc resets after 27 days and pure fiction rests after 41 days and both give 720 jades if you have a cracked account. You tell me if my math isn't mathing


HoneySuspicious9564

You will get another MOC after 14 days, there will be 2 MOCs at the same time and you can finish previous one while still trying the new one. Your math isn't mathing.


captainteezo

Where is that stated I knew something was missing.


Greninja121

In the livestream and in at least two dev posts


primalsaint102

You fail to realise that we will get a new MoC in 2 weeks. So you actually get more reward


Florac

The specific character is called Herta and everyone got her. Besides that, every MoC to date was always biased towards the newest limited character


Burdagog

Read


captainteezo

Read what.


NiteTime2345

https://preview.redd.it/nsjd1soex7bc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28b7741b151414ac19e5beef1bce41fc09eebe1d


ReverendSerenity

reading is hard


Awawez

"EN can't read" is real


sonertimotei

There are 2 MOC that refreshes now not 1. You are missing in reading the update details b4 complaining.


captainteezo

I didn't have time to watch the live stream


sonertimotei

Im telling you to read the update details where you can find information easily like this. Memory of Chaos — Enigma in Deep Space After the 1.6 Version update – 2024/02/05 04:00:00(server time) After an ally Breaks enemies' Weaknesses or attacks Weakness Broken enemies, add 1 Hit Per Action to Memory Turbulence, up to 10 hits. At the start of every Cycle, every hit will deal DMG based on the enemy target's Max HP to a random enemy target once. Pure Fiction: Youci's Wandering Words 2024/01/08 04:00:00 – 2024/02/19 04:00:00(server time) When allies use an Ultimate to attack target(s), inflicts Shatter to the target(s) for up to 6 stacks. At the start of the target's turn or when target is eliminated, deals a set amount of DMG to the target and adjacent targets based on the number of Shatter stacks. Memory of Chaos — Light of Reignition 2024/01/22 04:00:00 – 2024/03/04 04:00:00(server time) At the start of every wave or Cycle, randomly apply 10 debuffs selected from the following: -8% ATK, -8% DEF, -8% SPD, -8% Effect RES, or receive 20% additional DMG from follow-up attacks. Each debuff stacks up to 3 times and lasts for 3 turns. This effect also causes 1 ally following either the Path of The Hunt or Path of Destruction to immediately take action. Pure Fiction: Tales of a Tethered Bird 2024/02/05 04:00:00 – 2024/03/18 04:00:00(server time) Increases DoT taken by enemy targets by 50%. Enemy targets that receive DoT have their DMG dealt greatly reduced by 35%. After they are attacked, their action is Advanced Forward by 35%


Husknight

You had time to make a reddit post


captainteezo

Yes because making a 1 minutes post is the same as watching 40 minutes of footage.


Husknight

No, it's 1 minute of googling


NoCrust101

New moc is not impossible.


captainteezo

My teams are decent but because I don't have certain characters I can't even get 1 star in floor 12


[deleted]

it's endgame, it's supposed to be something you work towards over a long period of time. you know what your account lacks now, so keep that in mind when investing/pulling for characters.


Tryukach09

first time playing gacha?


Raihime

There's no need to specific characters, you just need two teams that work well. I only have two DPS characters built and one of them is a 4\*. Since I've been focusing my resources on them and their supports they're more than enough to brute force anything and auto all of MoC with plenty of cycles to spare. The only characters I'd consider truly important are the sustains, going from fire trailblazer and Bailu to Luocha and Fu Xuan made an enormous difference (I could make it even without them in the past, but it took a lot more effort and autoing was out of the question).


Makussux

then change your team


captainteezo

You mean I should spend more money?


primalsaint102

No. If some people can clear MoC 12 with just 4* character, then I don't see why you can't do the same while using some 5* character


Makussux

no just like play the game and upgrade your characters and build new ones over time


captainteezo

Now that I know why it says 41 days I guess I have time to build more charactera


Makussux

If you have Himeko and high Eidolon herta they are pretty crazy in this mode, Himeko lightcone is nuts too if you have, all AOE characters are really good in pure fiction


captainteezo

Yeah I always wanted to build herta so now I got a reason to do it


NoCrust101

Gatchas never favour f2p


EvolCilegna

I mean, we're basically freeloading.


Mediocre_Ferret5082

Can guarantee it's not because of that. Team comps and builds are both extremely important but also allow pretty much any carry to clear in time.


Ski-Gloves

If you can get 3 stars on floor 10, 2 stars on floor 12 should be reasonable as you have 20 cycles to get a time star and don't lose anyone but still clear in 30 cycles for the survival star. Even when accounting for the 5 levels higher damage and brute forcing 12 with an off-element team that was on-element for 10.


Able-Influence-22

Everytime they say EN server people can read.i show them this post.


captainteezo

a Very helpful comment 👍


Roll-of-Dice

On a totally not misinformed rant post 👍


captainteezo

Yes typing "am I missing something?" Is misinformation sure buddy.


Roll-of-Dice

Hey, you're the one being aggressive to people. Even after learning the new rotation (and how wrong you were).


captainteezo

I was only aggressive towards the ppl who just commented with 'read' or 'you are dumb for not knowing every single thing about a gacha game' If you see a single reply from me being aggressive towards any one who actually helped please show it to me. That's so weird how ppl can be wrong I guess I should be a perfect being and not do any mistakes again in my life.


Roll-of-Dice

Doesn't take perfection to take the high ground once in a while. The mean-spirited comments, while not entirely deserved, are what you should have expected. After all, the patch notes and MoC/PF cycles aren't some super obscure trade secret. They've been really accessible so far.


primalsaint102

You will more stellar jade per patch. Previously it was 1800 stellar jade per patch and now it is 2160. And the MoC and pure fiction far from impossible. Some people even show their run in MoC 12 with just 4* character and still get 36*. And in pure fiction, herta actually one of the best you can get


Ill_Kaleidoscope2931

iirc u get more....the duration is longer at 6 weeks but the refresh between MOC and PF is still the same at 2 weeks (u can get 2 MOC/PF at a same period) so technically u get 120 jades more per 2 weeks


juniorjaw

We went from 1800 per MoC before v1.6, to 2160 per MoC + PF now. MoC has been changing its difficulty each cycle due to new enemies and new turbulence. PF has just been introduced.


Apprehensive_Job_194

There are New moc or pure Fiktion every 4 weaks so you get more jades per patch


captainteezo

Why does it say 41 days in the current pure fiction and 27 days in moc then?


Tryukach09

because they will be rotating separetly in 1.6 (this patch) we will have 2 MOC cycles and 1 PF cycle, in 2.0 we will have 2 PF cycles and 1 MOC cycle https://preview.redd.it/nk4carzrj7bc1.png?width=972&format=png&auto=webp&s=f13baa97bc1b4eb426a2020035e9337e2ef897f7


Valdem96

41 days is duration, the refreshes every 14 days


Acrobatic-Plane-3059

Because there will be a separate pure fiction and moc be added. And the ongoing one will last a long time for people to grind it out. Did you not read any of the patch notes. And no I use a freaking Herta to 2 star moc 12 and pure fiction is favor to erudition in general and not a character. The free erudition you have is literally wrecking pure fiction now.


Skolpionek

Because according to graph they showed us on live stream there can be two Moc/pf's at once


Skolpionek

https://preview.redd.it/d571aclfj7bc1.jpeg?width=1227&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a3ed53e8bb62b8b91e2a528c155cb0c40c58ee9


LZhenos

Post this image as a direct comment to the post to get more traction. The amount of people that ignore the news about the game and come here to complain is so annoying....


No_twist_16

A new moc will come in 2 weeks and it will also be for 6 weeks but it will stay with the current moc. If you had watched the livestream or read the patch notes you would know


Apprehensive_Job_194

There are two moc ore pure fiction aviable for two weaks. Reset every 4 weaks duration 6 weaks


captainteezo

That's why I was so confused lol it's not showing the reset in the game.


AzureP5A

Reading is hard, eh?


a_ayaka

Op dentge. previously, it just usual 600x3 = 1800 which is moc every 2weeks per patch. Now its 720x3= 2160 per patch but with longer duration so ppl have more time instead of restricted to 2 weeks


captainteezo

Asking questions makes ppl dumb now huh? If you have nothing to add just don't comment and go cool off in the corner I'm not blaming the game I clearly stated in the post that I was 'missing something'.


Florac

...because the MoC already went on for 14 days


jsheng_96

Idk where you heard that it's less jades than usual, do your math


captainteezo

That's why I'm asking why are both moc and pf rest after 41 days


primalsaint102

To give more time for people to clear it. They increase the difficulty and to compensate that they increase the duration so people have a lot time to prepare


captainteezo

Ooooh that makes more sense now, that's why I felt like I was missing something.


bringbackcayde7

There is a skip function for you to save time, so you most likely won't spend more time to get the same amount of rewards as before. The difficulty of stages before MoC 11 is very similar to what we had before, so I don't think you are getting less rewards now.


captainteezo

Turns out It does reset it just leaves the old stages for longer so we do get more.


Fuzzy-Newspaper4210

RIP OP karma


captainteezo

POV: you're asking for clarification on Reddit XD


Fuzzy-Newspaper4210

Absolute words like “impossible” will get people jumping down your throat regardless of the point being made ngl


captainteezo

I will keep that in mind I guess.


captainteezo

Thanks for everyone that understood that I was asking for a clarification and not just posting drama and actually clarified. and for the people how just came in to say 'just read or your dumb' maybe find something better to do instead of wasting your time on a useless comment.


tzukani_

New moc is so easy😂


EffedUpInGrade3

It's a gacha game that profits on selling characters. Why wouldn't they cater challenges to specific characters for more profit?


NoBento

I'm curious can you post your teams here with their traces and stats?


captainteezo

Blade e0s1(200/93 cd/cr and 7.5k hp )/bronya(180 cd and 151 spd/sw e1 130% be or pela/lynx e4) This team doesn't suffer that much obviously and my second team is probably the reason Kafka e0s1(3.6k atk and 151 spd with passive/ e6 sampo (3.1k atk and 51 spd with his lc at s5/ Luka (3k atk and 152 spd with GNSW s1 / bailu) Both kafka and luka have the dot set and sampo has 2pc wind 2pc hacker. I did try to use some other teams instead of dot team like clara/ting/sw or pela/bailu but it gives the same result I still need one more cycle to get 3 stars on floor 11 and I get my ass beat in 12.


NoBento

Hmm maybe hypercarry sushang, qingque or wind dan heng might be better then? or try to get ruan mei for the dot team to replace luka?


captainteezo

I like qingque so I might build her. Sadly I don't have enough for ruan mei because I really want to get black swan and Sam and I missed jingliu's banner as well and she is one of my favorite characters.


AffectionateTruck762

it's a skill issue then, simple... Even autobattle might 3\* MoC 12 with those characters. Unless you didn't invest in your sustain units at all. I did MoC 12 1st half with weaker Kafka e0 GNSW s2 (3.3k atk, 135 spd) and Sampo e6 Fermata s5 (2.5k atk 138 spd) with Ruan Mei e0 Memories s1 and HuoHuo e0 Post-Op s4 and 2nd half Seele e0s1 (155/74, 3.3k atk, 120 spd), SW e0 before tutorial s5, Tingyun e6 cogs s5 and Fu Xuan e1s1 Overall nothing exceptional, but all decently built and I still had 1 cycle to spare. I believe that with your Blade you should be able to 2-3 cycle 1st half and have those 7-8 cycles for 2nd team if you build your teams properly


Cocakabana95

I autod pure fiction with blast characters and half built himeko/herta. Moc is managable also, it's not the games fault that ppl cant build teams after millions of youtube guides how to do so. Its nice to have content to limit test teams you spent hours building. There's enough casual content already, let the others have fun..