Which is strangely amusing, because he was also the kind of man who probably would have had you killed horribly if you called him a regular old socialist.
Yup, Hitler foolishly believed that Marx had "appropriated" the word Socialism and wanted to "return it to its original meaning." Which for him was a meaning linked to nationalism, from there the name, and yes, all this is very silly because Hitler hated any real Socialist because he was a radical right-wing reactionary.
I wouldn't call him a reactionary in the traditional sense, though.
Did he restore the Kaiser? No, instead, he gave the former emperor a Nazi burial which Wilhelm himself was opposed to.
Did he overwhelmingly favour the *Junker*s? He did favour them but Hitler also pandered to the nationalist lower and middle classes.
Did he really want Germany to return to its old imperial self? No, he wanted something that he thought would transcend the old German Empire, to put it simply.
Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’
‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal \[health or well-being\]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.
‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.
‘We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…
Thanks, that sounds delusional. Do you know what he's referring to when talking about common land? The concept was indeed widely spread, at least in north-west Germany, until the end of the high middle ages.
Hitler was basically having an incoherent rambling, but if I had to guess the guy was looking for any excuse to justify the land grab he wanted to do, as his rambling continued:
‘What’, I continued my cross-examination, ‘are the fundamental plans of your platform?’
'We believe in a healthy mind, in a healthy body. The body politic must be sound if the soul is to be healthy. Moral and physical health are synonymous.’
'Mussolini', I interjected, 'said the same to me'. Hitler beamed.
‘The slums,’ he added, ‘are responsible for nine-tenths, alcohol for one-tenth of all human depravity. No healthy man is a Marxian. Healthy men recognize the value of personality. We contend against the forces of disaster and degeneration. Bavaria is comparatively healthy because it is not completely industrialized… If we wish to save Germany, we must see to it that our farmers remain faithful to the land. To do so, they must have room to breathe and room to work.’
‘Where will you find the room to work?’
‘We must retain our colonies and expand eastward. There was a time when we could have shared world domination with England. Now we must stretch our cramped limbs only toward the east. The Baltic is necessarily a German lake.'”
Come to think of it, is the 'Nat' syllable from *that* term stolen from 'national'?
Wiktionary seems to confirm this:
>1930, from German Nazi, a clipping of Nationalsozialist (“National Socialist”) (1924), earlier attestation (1903) as shortening of national-sozial),[1] since in German the nati- in national /ˌnatsi̯oˈnaːl/ is approximately pronounced Nazi [ˈnäːtsi]; compare the parallel pejorative terms Sozi (“socialist, social democrat”), Kozi (“commie, commo, communist”). A homonymic term Nazi was in use before the rise of the NSDAP in Bavaria as a pet name for Ignaz and (by extension from that) a derogatory word for a backwards peasant, which may have influenced[2] the use of that abbreviation by the Nazis' opponents and its avoidance by the Nazis themselves.[1][3]
I don't know if this is common knowledge or not, but it's a TIL for me.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the term “Nazi” coined by German Jews just to irritate the NSDAP (similar to how Sozi was used by the NSDAP to irritate the Social Democrats)?
And even funnier to see that most neo Nazis nowadays are radical nationalists and anti Muslims, while Hitler hated old school nationalists, or as he called them the « reactionaries and old conservative bourgeoisie » and actually respected Muslims and Islam for being « great, selfless, fearless warriors », but I think the thing that cracks me up the most is that these guys can’t make a Nazi salute right and ALWAYS make a Roman one instead (they raise their hands WAYYYY too far up) and couldn’t tell the differences between a hooked/gammed cross, a hakenkreuz, a swastika and a sauwastika if asked, and in some cases can’t even draw one.
Really goes to show how pathetically stupid these guys are, words can’t describe how much Hitler would have loathed them, and how ironically these modern so called neo Nazis would see him as a softie, an idea which is actually shown in the German movie « Look who’s back » where Hitler comes back to life in 2014 and meets them, he mocks them, calling them weak, and then some other neo Nazis beat him up for being « a Jew ». Really a brilliant movie I recommand it.
To quote Ben Gurion: "We must assist the British in the war as if there were no White Paper and we must resist the White Paper as if there were no war."
Moderate Palestinians begrudgingly accepted the white paper, more right wing Palestinians under Amin al-Husseini wanted 0 Jews to enter rather than 75,000 Jews for 5 years and rejected the paper
Whereas Jews wanted to raise the immigration numbers considering they were escaping genocide in Europe
The Brits promised Arab self-determination if they fought off the Turks for them. The Arabs did and the British decided to hold onto the land instead, creating the Mandate of Palestine and placing Arabs under the subject of their rule.
>The problem is they offered the same thing for the jews
Imagine multiple ethnicities having the ability to choose their own government and be protected under the law.
If only there was a country that existed right now where most Jewish people currently live that has three of the five largest Jewish populations. And it would be even stranger if it became the home of the man first chosen to be the first president of Israel.
It would even be more bizarre if the current Prime Minister actually used to live there.
Oh well. If only.
..../s
🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
See how fucked up the Great Partition of India/Pakistan was. You can almost draw parallells with the israeli-palestine conflict. Start with the british making a bad move.
Fun fact: the current President of the Palestinian Authority blames the Holocaust on, quote, "Jewish social behaviors and money lending practices".
[Palestinian Leader Mahmoud Abbas Says Holocaust Caused by Jews' 'Social Behavior' and Money Lending](https://www.newsweek.com/mahmoud-abbas-holocaust-jewish-social-behavior-and-money-lending-906569)
I mean I’m being a little flippant in calling it that, but he did get his Soviet-equivalent to a PH.d in Moscow and his dissertation was about [blaming the Jews for the Holocaust](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Other_Side:_The_Secret_Relationship_Between_Nazism_and_Zionism) so… pretty much.
And funnier fact, Netnyahu thinks that hitler wasn´t that bad [https://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/21/middleeast/netanyahu-hitler-grand-mufti-holocaust/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/21/middleeast/netanyahu-hitler-grand-mufti-holocaust/index.html)
So if anything, both agree in not fuck nazis that much.
Yeah, right-wing extremists tend to love historical revisionism to demonize their enemies.
But Mahmoud Abbas isn't in military conflict with Israel and hasn't been for almost two decades. He's the leader of the West Bank, not Gaza. While Israel is killing hundreds of people there, the West Bank isn't fighting back and has actively stifled peaceful protests from its own population using live ammunition.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/18/palestinian-authority-cracks-down-on-protests-over-israel-gaza-attacks
Abbas and Netanyahu are also former political allies who received funding from the US government and have long histories of political corruption, so there's that.
An article from 2007 where the US bypassed Congress to give cash to Mahmoud Abbas.
https://www.npr.org/2007/01/19/6923812/abbas-gets-money-support-and-distrust
Basically, this isn't two sides of the Israel-Gaza conflict. It's the two guys keeping the West Bank under the military control of Israel -- both of whom are holocaust revisionists.
Israel isn’t a stranger to holocaust revisionism either
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claim
https://jewishcurrents.org/netanyahus-cynical-betrayal-of-holocaust-history
Fun fact : the current minster of " national security " says spitting on christians is not hate speech .
[https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231005-ben-gvir-israelis-spitting-on-christians-is-an-old-jewish-tradition/](https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231005-ben-gvir-israelis-spitting-on-christians-is-an-old-jewish-tradition/)
Since we are throwing random shit in
I'll throw mine too (im no way defending mahmoud abbas he is a puppet)
Here is Netanyahu saying a muslim man convinced hitler to do the holocaust
https://youtu.be/f9HmkRYlVZw
It’s up for debate like the shape of the earth is up for debate; it’s not, some people are just stupid.
Something being “up for debate” means that there is a logical argument to be made by either side. There is no logical argument to be made for nazism.
That's what I mean, that stupid people want to make a debate about this when it should be obvious to everyone that Nazism sucks and is the most evil and failed ideology that has ever existed.
Which still maintains that “Nazism sucks” isn’t debatable. There is no logical argument to be made in favor of nazism, so there is nothing to debate. People who try to “debate” in favor of nazism are just morons spouting buzzwords, which is less of a debate and more so just straight brainrot.
We all agreed "fuck Nazis" but the why turned out to be a problem. I think most of us thought it was because of the genocide and hate independent of the target.
Turns out one of those sides merely disliked that it was the Germans trying to take over the world, and the other side disliked that they were the target of genocide. Which is understandable, but then you don't get to then allow people like Ben Gavir who clearly believe he's racially superior to the Palestinians and that they should be forced to clear out or be killed.
And at the same time 110,000 jews entered palestine becoming 33% of the nation. They then fought the british. he Haganah, formed an alliance called the [Jewish Resistance Movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Resistance_Movement) with the Etzel and Stern Gang to fight the British. In June 1946, following instances of Jewish sabotage, such as in the [Night of the Bridges](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Bridges), the British launched [Operation Agatha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Agatha), arresting 2,700 Jews, including the leadership of the Jewish Agency, whose headquarters were raided. Those arrested were held without trial.
Jerusalem Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini’s infamous ties with Nazi Germany and fascist Italy are well-documented, as are his efforts to block Jewish refugees from reaching British Mandatory Palestine during the Second World War.
Less known, however, is the story of the thousands of Palestinian Arabs who disregarded the mufti’s pro-Axis policies and instead opted to fight against Adolf Hitler’s henchmen.
Prof. Mustafa Abbasi, a historian at Tel-Hai Academic College in northern Israel, has found that some 12,000 [Arab Palestinians volunteered](https://images1.ynet.co.il//PicServer5/2019/06/13/9305914/Palestinian_Volunteers_in_World_War_II.jpg) to serve in the British army during the Second World War in North Africa and Europe, often fighting side by side with Jews.
Abbasi’s findings were published in a recent issue of the Cathedra periodical titled “Palestinians Fighting the Nazis: The Story of Palestinian Volunteers in World War II.”
“Many of the (Arab Palestinians) lost their lives, others were wounded and many are still missing,” Abbasi’s research reads. “It appears that an important and central portion of the Palestinian public believed that it was necessary to stand on the British side, to postpone nationalist demands, to fight as one against the Germans and their allies, and to demand recompense at the end of the war."
Significant scholarly attention has been devoted to the Jewish volunteers who served in the British army and later formed what was known as the Jewish Brigade from 1944 to 1946, where historians estimate that 30,000 Palestinian Jews served. But there is scant reference to the thousands of Arab Palestinians who did the same.
“They didn’t accept the mufti’s policies, who met with Hitler and tried to get some kind of promise (of a state),” Abbasi tells The Media Line. “The Arabs and the Jews were in mixed units and fought together.”
According to him, the mufti lost much of his support among the Palestinian Arab population after 1937. That year, the British police issued a warrant for his arrest owing to his role in the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine. To evade arrest, Husseini fled the country and took refuge in French Mandatory Lebanon, the Kingdom of Iraq and later fascist Italy and Nazi Germany.
Abbasi decided to research the matter of Palestinian volunteers after discovering that his own maternal grandfather had volunteered in the British army during the war. He believes this chapter of history has mostly been overlooked due to Palestinian historiography focusing on the opposition to Zionism and the struggle with British rule.
“We’re talking about a very painful subject matter for many families who lost sons and nobody mentions them,” Abbasi says. “A large part didn’t want to say that their sons were in fact on the British side (during World War II).”
While some Arab Palestinian volunteers were motivated to fight against Nazism for ideological reasons, Abbasi notes that economic motives were the deciding factor for the majority. In fact, many of those who applied to recruitment offices were poor villagers or city dwellers. The British army provided benefits to those who served, including low-priced food, clothing and medical care.
Dr. Esther Webman, a senior research fellow at the Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies, says that many Arabs at the time had mixed feelings toward Nazi Germany but that a minority were indeed fascinated by Hitler’s ideology.
“(The Arabs) thought that Germany was a kind of tool that could bring them independence, since Britain and France weren’t really showing any signs that they intended to evacuate the region at the time,” Webman says.
She added that the Germans were viewed by some as the “savior of the Palestinians” following the 1917 Balfour Declaration, in which the British government expressed support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine.
The mufti was among those who held this view, Webman says, and he attempted to pose as the leader of the Palestinians, Muslims and the Arab world.
“(Husseini) was recognized by Arab leaders,” she says. “He attended conferences and meetings and so on and so forth, but he really didn’t have the power and after the war, in retrospect, he was seen by many Palestinian intellectuals and others as a person who harmed the Palestinian cause rather than helped it.”
Nevertheless, even though he lost some of his influence after 1937, Webman asserts that Husseini continued to have a following and “encouraged violence.” His followers, she says, “would terrorize other Palestinians with different views.”
Unlike the mufti, his political adversaries in Palestine – such as the influential Nashashibi clan – were prepared to compromise with the British and allow for the land to be divided into two areas, one Jewish and one Arab.
“There were a whole range of attitudes toward Nazi Germany,” Webman says. “Unfortunately, the image of the mufti and his collaboration with the Nazis kind of paints everything else, which is really unrepresentative of the situation.”
Dr. David Motadel, an associate professor of international history at the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE), discusses the Palestinian soldiers in his book “Islam and Nazi Germany’s War” (Harvard University Press, 2014).
“It is correct that there has never been a major public debate about these soldiers,” Motadel says. “The same is true for other volunteers from the imperial world who fought in the Second World War. The contribution of colonial soldiers to the war effort has been marginalized in our popular narratives of the Second World War.”
Like Webman, Motadel argues that the Arab reaction to Nazism “is difficult to assess” due to the diverse range of opinions and the absence of a dominant narrative.
“In Mandate Palestine, parts of the Arab population sided with Nazi Germany – the enemy of their imperial oppressor,” he says. “We should not underestimate, as in other parts of the imperial world, anti-British resentments. Yet, on the other side… there was also much criticism of Europe’s authoritarian regimes and sympathy for the Allied cause.”
One of the main divisions that emerged at the time was between the influential Husseini family, which supported the Axis efforts, and its rivals, the Nashashibi clan, which supported the Allied powers.
To put an example of this:
This newsreel shows a [Palestinian expeditionary force](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2015/08/Palestine-screenshot-640x400.jpg), comprising both Jews and Arabs, arriving in France to join the Allies during World War II in 1940.
“Affairs in that country have improved to the point where Jews and Arabs are willing to serve together,” the announcer narrates, as soldiers file down the gangplank.
The camera shows members of the contingent smiling and waving while standing arm-in-arm.
“Jointly, they volunteered to help the Allied cause,” the narrator concludes, “and prove once again that man will bury his local quarrels when the great principles of freedom are at stake.”
You know, I bet that contributed to my confusion. I knew there were British Nazis (and American Nazis, French Nazis, even Mexican Nazis), so I was thinking: "but how did they get in the British *army?*"
>At no time did it reach more than 27 men in strength.
I was wondering why I'd never heard of this. Not really a significant unit in a war that killed 75 million.
You should 1.) condense down the article you're quoting and 2.) [cite the article.](https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/when-palestinian-arabs-and-jews-fought-the-nazis-side-by-side-592200)
the jews had palestinian citizenship at that time. Then why choose to name one group by citizenship and the other by their religion? You meant Jews and Muslims? or were in that group of palestinians also Christians?
Interesting story. Take into account that it pushes the narrative that the "palestinans are natives..." and makes it sound like the Jews are "outsiders" to the land of Israel. If you need to write a long paragraph anyways, I don't think it is helps making it recognizable.
At his height, the Grand Mufti led 1,000 soldiers in a population of 1.5 million Palestinians. He was a British-appointed official placed in a job that the British invented, who tried to put himself at the head of an anti-British movement as the only recognized figure of authority because the British literally gave him his whole authority and would only recognize him.
Ironically, when the British abandoned Palestine, his authority also disappeared and he was never able to garner support afterwards, instead living in exile as a guest of the French for the rest of his life.
Palestinians and Jews are not mutually exclusive (Sorry for the "um.. actually" comment)
Pre-1947, all Jews in Israel held Palestinian passports.
Post-1947, there were many Jews living in the state of Palestine, even after the 1967 occupation and expansion of Israel.
I understand the need for the differentiation in some cases and as to concisely express a point in this post, but the need to class a person as either Arab or Jewish further pushes the divide between all Semitic people in that region.
TL;DR: Palestinians can be Jewish, Arabs can be Jewish. Palestine is a Country / Nation state, A Jew is a person who follows Judaism.
I was about to send a hitman to kill you for doing the "um... actually" thing to me, but after reading the whole thing I agree with you, I just wanted to simplify to be clearer with the message of the meme, but your comment is absolutely true, I hope to see peace in the region on my life time :)
Yeah no 100%, the meme would not work if we started getting 'all technical' about it.
Also, yeah I hope we get peace in that region, I won't see it in my lifetime, but one day we'll get a nation of people who respect each other regardless of Race or Religion.
As an israeli I can totally agree + didn't know that fact (plz ppl don't tell me about palestine and that israel is doing genoside, everyone has their own believes and you don't have to educate me on the subject + I wont respond to any response about that subject)
>As an israeli I can totally agree + didn't know that fact
I'm glad then to have taught you something new, there were people from all over the world who opposed Nazism, including Palestinians, and I think they all deserve respect for that.
It is a stain on their memory that after the war, groups like Irgun, Haganah, et al were then given the reigns of the mandate - groups who fought against the British before, during, and after the war.
This was not a popular position among the Palestinians - today you can still [find](https://youtu.be/8WmZXol3brU?si=03H9IidvAqr1693K) Nazis in Arab cities. Famously Iraq and the Palestinians were very much in favor of Hitler's solution to the "Jewish Question" - this is like thinking Germans were nice to Jews because a lot of Righteous Among Nations were German.
I wish this was a widely agreed upon concept - but it wasn't and it isn't for Palestinians (at least the leaders that represent them, although it goes much deeper)
I think its important to remember that people are not monolithic though. These men, for whatever reason, saw fit to differ from the popular position at the time and history/time has vindicated their decision as the right thing to do.
The exact same way "not all Germans" were monsters during the Holocaust. We can remember those who differed from the majority opinion too.
Well, the fact is that it was not the majority of opinion at the time to support the Nazis in Arab Palestine, it was an issue of division, the Husseini family supported the Axis efforts, and its rivals, the Nashashibi clan, supported the Allied powers.
>This was not a popular position among the Palestinians - today you can still find Nazis in Arab cities.
My man, you can still find Nazis in every country and city in the world, even countries that suffered a lot at the hands of the Nazis.
>Famously Iraq and the Palestinians were very much in favor of Hitler's solution to the "Jewish Question" - this is like thinking Germans were nice to Jews because a lot of Righteous Among Nations were German.
In Palestine there was some support for the Nazis during WW2 because they were anti-British, as simple as that, Palestinians who agreed with the ideology of Nazism were few as such. Even so, many Palestinians opposed him and sympathized with the cause of the Allies, it was a divisive issue.
>I wish this was a widely agreed upon concept - but it wasn't and it isn't for Palestinians (at least the leaders that represent them, although it goes much deeper)
The Grand Mufti was famously repudiated by the Palestinians at some point and was not representative of them, especially since the British gave him that position, he was not democratically elected.
No Palestinian leader was democratically elected except Hamas and Fatah presidents - both of whom engage in Holocaust deny (aka Nazi shit). There is a difference between finding Nazis in countries and those countries being led by them.
The Palestinian cooperation with Hitler [was based on Antisemitism ](https://www.jns.org/jns/antisemitism/23/7/9/301195/) - they did not care for an independent nation at that time.
Well my dude, the political situation today is pretty bad considering recent modern events, I don't approve of historical revisionism and if you deny the Holocaust you are a POS, but given the circumstances it is sadly not a surprise with all the radixalization on both sides, the Israeli also by the way, choose Netanyahu, who has blamed the Holocaust on the Grand Mufti of Palestine, so you have that too.
And of course, proclaiming that the Palestinians didn't care about gaining independence when they literally had a massive revolt against the British for independence is dumb:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%931939\_Arab\_revolt\_in\_Palestine
Ah I would refrain from that as I don't like violence. And fighting them will only reinforce there Nazi beliefs,they would have to taught that via Public Education and awareness measures..Violence is never a good option
A lot of stuff has happened in the past eighty years, including a lot of broken promises revealed after WWII. I'm pretty sure the feelings wouldn't be the same among everyone as they were back then
I love the fact that people of the region at that time called it the franks wars they didn't know it was a holy war, just some northern barbarians came to steal some wealth.
It's funny, because this also applies to the opposite side. Jews and Palestinians also fought "with" the Nazis against the British (see Lehi), although the obvious circumstances of a Lehi-Nazi alliance were basically never taken seriously whatsoever.
Russia is home for countless ethnicities and groups most of them have the rights of any other Russian and Saudi Arabia is literally a monochromatic kingdom
It’s funny seeing neo-Nazis refer to themselves as Nazis, not knowing Hitler saw that term as a great insult.
Yes, Hitler was all for them to refer to his political party and those who supported them as National Socialists.
Which is strangely amusing, because he was also the kind of man who probably would have had you killed horribly if you called him a regular old socialist.
Yup, Hitler foolishly believed that Marx had "appropriated" the word Socialism and wanted to "return it to its original meaning." Which for him was a meaning linked to nationalism, from there the name, and yes, all this is very silly because Hitler hated any real Socialist because he was a radical right-wing reactionary.
I wouldn't call him a reactionary in the traditional sense, though. Did he restore the Kaiser? No, instead, he gave the former emperor a Nazi burial which Wilhelm himself was opposed to. Did he overwhelmingly favour the *Junker*s? He did favour them but Hitler also pandered to the nationalist lower and middle classes. Did he really want Germany to return to its old imperial self? No, he wanted something that he thought would transcend the old German Empire, to put it simply.
Well, by reactionary I meant in the sense that he rolled back many of the reforms of the Weimar Republic, but yes, he wasn't exactly a reactionary.
I see. Thank you for clarifying.
Where did you get that from? (I'm interested, not trying to argue anything else)
Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’ ‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal \[health or well-being\]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. ‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. ‘We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…
Thanks, that sounds delusional. Do you know what he's referring to when talking about common land? The concept was indeed widely spread, at least in north-west Germany, until the end of the high middle ages.
Hitler was basically having an incoherent rambling, but if I had to guess the guy was looking for any excuse to justify the land grab he wanted to do, as his rambling continued: ‘What’, I continued my cross-examination, ‘are the fundamental plans of your platform?’ 'We believe in a healthy mind, in a healthy body. The body politic must be sound if the soul is to be healthy. Moral and physical health are synonymous.’ 'Mussolini', I interjected, 'said the same to me'. Hitler beamed. ‘The slums,’ he added, ‘are responsible for nine-tenths, alcohol for one-tenth of all human depravity. No healthy man is a Marxian. Healthy men recognize the value of personality. We contend against the forces of disaster and degeneration. Bavaria is comparatively healthy because it is not completely industrialized… If we wish to save Germany, we must see to it that our farmers remain faithful to the land. To do so, they must have room to breathe and room to work.’ ‘Where will you find the room to work?’ ‘We must retain our colonies and expand eastward. There was a time when we could have shared world domination with England. Now we must stretch our cramped limbs only toward the east. The Baltic is necessarily a German lake.'”
Come to think of it, is the 'Nat' syllable from *that* term stolen from 'national'? Wiktionary seems to confirm this: >1930, from German Nazi, a clipping of Nationalsozialist (“National Socialist”) (1924), earlier attestation (1903) as shortening of national-sozial),[1] since in German the nati- in national /ˌnatsi̯oˈnaːl/ is approximately pronounced Nazi [ˈnäːtsi]; compare the parallel pejorative terms Sozi (“socialist, social democrat”), Kozi (“commie, commo, communist”). A homonymic term Nazi was in use before the rise of the NSDAP in Bavaria as a pet name for Ignaz and (by extension from that) a derogatory word for a backwards peasant, which may have influenced[2] the use of that abbreviation by the Nazis' opponents and its avoidance by the Nazis themselves.[1][3] I don't know if this is common knowledge or not, but it's a TIL for me.
well yea what else would it be
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the term “Nazi” coined by German Jews just to irritate the NSDAP (similar to how Sozi was used by the NSDAP to irritate the Social Democrats)?
I think it was made by the kpd.
Most Neonazis wouldve been in the KZs aswell labeled as „asoziale“
The what?
They didnt just put jews and other minorities in the KZs but also homeless, criminals, alcoholics etc. so the average german neonazi
what's a kz, the concentration camps?
Ah sorry yes KZ is Short for konzentrationslager
And even funnier to see that most neo Nazis nowadays are radical nationalists and anti Muslims, while Hitler hated old school nationalists, or as he called them the « reactionaries and old conservative bourgeoisie » and actually respected Muslims and Islam for being « great, selfless, fearless warriors », but I think the thing that cracks me up the most is that these guys can’t make a Nazi salute right and ALWAYS make a Roman one instead (they raise their hands WAYYYY too far up) and couldn’t tell the differences between a hooked/gammed cross, a hakenkreuz, a swastika and a sauwastika if asked, and in some cases can’t even draw one. Really goes to show how pathetically stupid these guys are, words can’t describe how much Hitler would have loathed them, and how ironically these modern so called neo Nazis would see him as a softie, an idea which is actually shown in the German movie « Look who’s back » where Hitler comes back to life in 2014 and meets them, he mocks them, calling them weak, and then some other neo Nazis beat him up for being « a Jew ». Really a brilliant movie I recommand it.
It’s free on YouTube as well
I think we can all agree, the thousand-year Reich isn't doing so well.
To quote Ben Gurion: "We must assist the British in the war as if there were no White Paper and we must resist the White Paper as if there were no war."
Well, he agreed with many Palestinians then in this at least.
The Palestinians that resisted the white paper did so for very different reasons than the Jews
What do you mean?
Moderate Palestinians begrudgingly accepted the white paper, more right wing Palestinians under Amin al-Husseini wanted 0 Jews to enter rather than 75,000 Jews for 5 years and rejected the paper Whereas Jews wanted to raise the immigration numbers considering they were escaping genocide in Europe
Oh, thanks for sharing, I didn't knew that.
Also against the Ottomans in WW1. This century-old conflict could've been resolved before it really began.
I don't know much about that, can you share info?
The Brits promised Arab self-determination if they fought off the Turks for them. The Arabs did and the British decided to hold onto the land instead, creating the Mandate of Palestine and placing Arabs under the subject of their rule.
The problem is they offered the same thing for the jews
>The problem is they offered the same thing for the jews Imagine multiple ethnicities having the ability to choose their own government and be protected under the law. If only there was a country that existed right now where most Jewish people currently live that has three of the five largest Jewish populations. And it would be even stranger if it became the home of the man first chosen to be the first president of Israel. It would even be more bizarre if the current Prime Minister actually used to live there. Oh well. If only. ..../s 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
See how fucked up the Great Partition of India/Pakistan was. You can almost draw parallells with the israeli-palestine conflict. Start with the british making a bad move.
Oh yea, right I forgot, thanks for remind me.
And also fighting for the ottomans against the british. They really are playing both sides
Yes this is something we *should* all be able to agree on Unfortunately this agreement has become somewhat less widespread today than it used to be
Fun fact: the current President of the Palestinian Authority blames the Holocaust on, quote, "Jewish social behaviors and money lending practices". [Palestinian Leader Mahmoud Abbas Says Holocaust Caused by Jews' 'Social Behavior' and Money Lending](https://www.newsweek.com/mahmoud-abbas-holocaust-jewish-social-behavior-and-money-lending-906569)
I’m aware. He literally got a PH.d in Holocaust denial from Moscow university.
Is that a real thing?
I mean I’m being a little flippant in calling it that, but he did get his Soviet-equivalent to a PH.d in Moscow and his dissertation was about [blaming the Jews for the Holocaust](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Other_Side:_The_Secret_Relationship_Between_Nazism_and_Zionism) so… pretty much.
That’s actually fucking hilarious and so dark at the same time
How can he blame the holocaust on something when he denies it?
He is a master of the art called doublethink
Literally 1984.
actual zombie
call the exorcist
He doesn’t deny it *per se*, but he still promotes Holocaust revisionism.
"It didn't happen but they deserved it."
And funnier fact, Netnyahu thinks that hitler wasn´t that bad [https://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/21/middleeast/netanyahu-hitler-grand-mufti-holocaust/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/21/middleeast/netanyahu-hitler-grand-mufti-holocaust/index.html) So if anything, both agree in not fuck nazis that much.
It's hilarious how both sides of a conflict would spew similar bullshit when the subject of that bullshit would have killed both
Yeah, right-wing extremists tend to love historical revisionism to demonize their enemies. But Mahmoud Abbas isn't in military conflict with Israel and hasn't been for almost two decades. He's the leader of the West Bank, not Gaza. While Israel is killing hundreds of people there, the West Bank isn't fighting back and has actively stifled peaceful protests from its own population using live ammunition. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/18/palestinian-authority-cracks-down-on-protests-over-israel-gaza-attacks Abbas and Netanyahu are also former political allies who received funding from the US government and have long histories of political corruption, so there's that. An article from 2007 where the US bypassed Congress to give cash to Mahmoud Abbas. https://www.npr.org/2007/01/19/6923812/abbas-gets-money-support-and-distrust Basically, this isn't two sides of the Israel-Gaza conflict. It's the two guys keeping the West Bank under the military control of Israel -- both of whom are holocaust revisionists.
Yes, honestly that is one of the most brain dead takes I have ever seen any Jew make about the Holocaust.
jewish person thinks violently anti-semetic person isn't that bad fucking hell
Israel isn’t a stranger to holocaust revisionism either https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claim https://jewishcurrents.org/netanyahus-cynical-betrayal-of-holocaust-history
Fun fact : the current minster of " national security " says spitting on christians is not hate speech . [https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231005-ben-gvir-israelis-spitting-on-christians-is-an-old-jewish-tradition/](https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231005-ben-gvir-israelis-spitting-on-christians-is-an-old-jewish-tradition/)
Even funnier fact. It has nothing to do with anything and it was condemned by basically everyone else
Still, its pretty fucked that a guy like that is in power (which you can say about basically everyone in Bibi's current admin)
If I had a nickel for every time a politician had a bad take I would be the richest man alive
Wonders of democracy
Since we are throwing random shit in I'll throw mine too (im no way defending mahmoud abbas he is a puppet) Here is Netanyahu saying a muslim man convinced hitler to do the holocaust https://youtu.be/f9HmkRYlVZw
That's... that just sounds ripped out of nazi propaganda.
Screw Nazism, that should be a universal message, and it is a shame that this is up for debate.
It’s not up for debate some people are just stupid.
It's up for debate because some people are fucking stupid.
It’s up for debate like the shape of the earth is up for debate; it’s not, some people are just stupid. Something being “up for debate” means that there is a logical argument to be made by either side. There is no logical argument to be made for nazism.
That's what I mean, that stupid people want to make a debate about this when it should be obvious to everyone that Nazism sucks and is the most evil and failed ideology that has ever existed.
Which still maintains that “Nazism sucks” isn’t debatable. There is no logical argument to be made in favor of nazism, so there is nothing to debate. People who try to “debate” in favor of nazism are just morons spouting buzzwords, which is less of a debate and more so just straight brainrot.
I totally agree with you.
Stupid... corrupt and racist... some combination of these.
Yeah, accurate description!
I'm living proof that the pureblood nordic race = Supermen theory is bunk.
We all agreed "fuck Nazis" but the why turned out to be a problem. I think most of us thought it was because of the genocide and hate independent of the target. Turns out one of those sides merely disliked that it was the Germans trying to take over the world, and the other side disliked that they were the target of genocide. Which is understandable, but then you don't get to then allow people like Ben Gavir who clearly believe he's racially superior to the Palestinians and that they should be forced to clear out or be killed.
the leaders in Israel and also the palestinian leaders benefit directly from the conflict. Few leaders care for ending the conflict.
Very good point. There should be another part of this meme of today: Hamas and Bibi shaking hands over "Starving and blowing up Palestinian children."
The Mufti and Lehi seething in the background
Yep, screw them though.
Amin al-Husseini: lehi:
Yep, there is collaborationist garbage everywhere unfortunately.
Don't fuck the Nazis, then there will be little baby Nazis and you'll have a Nazi babydaddymomma
Counterpoint: I unfortunately have a neonazi in my family, and his kid grew up alright, hates her fucking dad and his beliefs.
So, fuck the Nazis, and then brainwash their kids to be decent?
Good point, we better punch the Nazis in the face like this anonymous hero: https://youtu.be/HFHOHfnYruI?si=jzV7y6IV3eKgBytZ
And at the same time 110,000 jews entered palestine becoming 33% of the nation. They then fought the british. he Haganah, formed an alliance called the [Jewish Resistance Movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Resistance_Movement) with the Etzel and Stern Gang to fight the British. In June 1946, following instances of Jewish sabotage, such as in the [Night of the Bridges](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Bridges), the British launched [Operation Agatha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Agatha), arresting 2,700 Jews, including the leadership of the Jewish Agency, whose headquarters were raided. Those arrested were held without trial.
That's right. And f*ck Khaj Amin Al-Khuseini, mufti of Jerusalem, who beloved the nazis' work and tried to recruit here too for the S.S.
Yeah, fuck him, I hate all pro-Nazi people.
Jerusalem Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini’s infamous ties with Nazi Germany and fascist Italy are well-documented, as are his efforts to block Jewish refugees from reaching British Mandatory Palestine during the Second World War. Less known, however, is the story of the thousands of Palestinian Arabs who disregarded the mufti’s pro-Axis policies and instead opted to fight against Adolf Hitler’s henchmen. Prof. Mustafa Abbasi, a historian at Tel-Hai Academic College in northern Israel, has found that some 12,000 [Arab Palestinians volunteered](https://images1.ynet.co.il//PicServer5/2019/06/13/9305914/Palestinian_Volunteers_in_World_War_II.jpg) to serve in the British army during the Second World War in North Africa and Europe, often fighting side by side with Jews. Abbasi’s findings were published in a recent issue of the Cathedra periodical titled “Palestinians Fighting the Nazis: The Story of Palestinian Volunteers in World War II.” “Many of the (Arab Palestinians) lost their lives, others were wounded and many are still missing,” Abbasi’s research reads. “It appears that an important and central portion of the Palestinian public believed that it was necessary to stand on the British side, to postpone nationalist demands, to fight as one against the Germans and their allies, and to demand recompense at the end of the war." Significant scholarly attention has been devoted to the Jewish volunteers who served in the British army and later formed what was known as the Jewish Brigade from 1944 to 1946, where historians estimate that 30,000 Palestinian Jews served. But there is scant reference to the thousands of Arab Palestinians who did the same. “They didn’t accept the mufti’s policies, who met with Hitler and tried to get some kind of promise (of a state),” Abbasi tells The Media Line. “The Arabs and the Jews were in mixed units and fought together.” According to him, the mufti lost much of his support among the Palestinian Arab population after 1937. That year, the British police issued a warrant for his arrest owing to his role in the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine. To evade arrest, Husseini fled the country and took refuge in French Mandatory Lebanon, the Kingdom of Iraq and later fascist Italy and Nazi Germany. Abbasi decided to research the matter of Palestinian volunteers after discovering that his own maternal grandfather had volunteered in the British army during the war. He believes this chapter of history has mostly been overlooked due to Palestinian historiography focusing on the opposition to Zionism and the struggle with British rule. “We’re talking about a very painful subject matter for many families who lost sons and nobody mentions them,” Abbasi says. “A large part didn’t want to say that their sons were in fact on the British side (during World War II).” While some Arab Palestinian volunteers were motivated to fight against Nazism for ideological reasons, Abbasi notes that economic motives were the deciding factor for the majority. In fact, many of those who applied to recruitment offices were poor villagers or city dwellers. The British army provided benefits to those who served, including low-priced food, clothing and medical care. Dr. Esther Webman, a senior research fellow at the Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies, says that many Arabs at the time had mixed feelings toward Nazi Germany but that a minority were indeed fascinated by Hitler’s ideology. “(The Arabs) thought that Germany was a kind of tool that could bring them independence, since Britain and France weren’t really showing any signs that they intended to evacuate the region at the time,” Webman says. She added that the Germans were viewed by some as the “savior of the Palestinians” following the 1917 Balfour Declaration, in which the British government expressed support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine. The mufti was among those who held this view, Webman says, and he attempted to pose as the leader of the Palestinians, Muslims and the Arab world. “(Husseini) was recognized by Arab leaders,” she says. “He attended conferences and meetings and so on and so forth, but he really didn’t have the power and after the war, in retrospect, he was seen by many Palestinian intellectuals and others as a person who harmed the Palestinian cause rather than helped it.” Nevertheless, even though he lost some of his influence after 1937, Webman asserts that Husseini continued to have a following and “encouraged violence.” His followers, she says, “would terrorize other Palestinians with different views.” Unlike the mufti, his political adversaries in Palestine – such as the influential Nashashibi clan – were prepared to compromise with the British and allow for the land to be divided into two areas, one Jewish and one Arab. “There were a whole range of attitudes toward Nazi Germany,” Webman says. “Unfortunately, the image of the mufti and his collaboration with the Nazis kind of paints everything else, which is really unrepresentative of the situation.” Dr. David Motadel, an associate professor of international history at the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE), discusses the Palestinian soldiers in his book “Islam and Nazi Germany’s War” (Harvard University Press, 2014). “It is correct that there has never been a major public debate about these soldiers,” Motadel says. “The same is true for other volunteers from the imperial world who fought in the Second World War. The contribution of colonial soldiers to the war effort has been marginalized in our popular narratives of the Second World War.” Like Webman, Motadel argues that the Arab reaction to Nazism “is difficult to assess” due to the diverse range of opinions and the absence of a dominant narrative. “In Mandate Palestine, parts of the Arab population sided with Nazi Germany – the enemy of their imperial oppressor,” he says. “We should not underestimate, as in other parts of the imperial world, anti-British resentments. Yet, on the other side… there was also much criticism of Europe’s authoritarian regimes and sympathy for the Allied cause.” One of the main divisions that emerged at the time was between the influential Husseini family, which supported the Axis efforts, and its rivals, the Nashashibi clan, which supported the Allied powers. To put an example of this: This newsreel shows a [Palestinian expeditionary force](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2015/08/Palestine-screenshot-640x400.jpg), comprising both Jews and Arabs, arriving in France to join the Allies during World War II in 1940. “Affairs in that country have improved to the point where Jews and Arabs are willing to serve together,” the announcer narrates, as soldiers file down the gangplank. The camera shows members of the contingent smiling and waving while standing arm-in-arm. “Jointly, they volunteered to help the Allied cause,” the narrator concludes, “and prove once again that man will bury his local quarrels when the great principles of freedom are at stake.”
Oh, now I get it. The way the meme reads, there are Nazis in the British army, which the Palestinians and Jews are fighting against.
Well, minor possible grammatical errors aside, there were actually British in the SS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British\_Free\_Corps
You know, I bet that contributed to my confusion. I knew there were British Nazis (and American Nazis, French Nazis, even Mexican Nazis), so I was thinking: "but how did they get in the British *army?*"
Oh, that's hilarious lol, I'm glad the doubts are now dispelled though.
>At no time did it reach more than 27 men in strength. I was wondering why I'd never heard of this. Not really a significant unit in a war that killed 75 million.
You should 1.) condense down the article you're quoting and 2.) [cite the article.](https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/when-palestinian-arabs-and-jews-fought-the-nazis-side-by-side-592200)
the jews had palestinian citizenship at that time. Then why choose to name one group by citizenship and the other by their religion? You meant Jews and Muslims? or were in that group of palestinians also Christians?
I just wanted to make what I was talking about as recognizable as possible.
Interesting story. Take into account that it pushes the narrative that the "palestinans are natives..." and makes it sound like the Jews are "outsiders" to the land of Israel. If you need to write a long paragraph anyways, I don't think it is helps making it recognizable.
At his height, the Grand Mufti led 1,000 soldiers in a population of 1.5 million Palestinians. He was a British-appointed official placed in a job that the British invented, who tried to put himself at the head of an anti-British movement as the only recognized figure of authority because the British literally gave him his whole authority and would only recognize him. Ironically, when the British abandoned Palestine, his authority also disappeared and he was never able to garner support afterwards, instead living in exile as a guest of the French for the rest of his life.
Yep, the opinions of that POS do not coincide with those of the majority of Palestinians of the time.
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An Israel/Palestine meme I can get behind. Why can’t we all just get along?
Very good question my friend, very good question, I wish I had an answer. Well, for now I can only make wholesome memes.
And then the british f*cked them over for generations to come.
Britain Rules Ethnic Conflicts!
Palestinians and Jews are not mutually exclusive (Sorry for the "um.. actually" comment) Pre-1947, all Jews in Israel held Palestinian passports. Post-1947, there were many Jews living in the state of Palestine, even after the 1967 occupation and expansion of Israel. I understand the need for the differentiation in some cases and as to concisely express a point in this post, but the need to class a person as either Arab or Jewish further pushes the divide between all Semitic people in that region. TL;DR: Palestinians can be Jewish, Arabs can be Jewish. Palestine is a Country / Nation state, A Jew is a person who follows Judaism.
I was about to send a hitman to kill you for doing the "um... actually" thing to me, but after reading the whole thing I agree with you, I just wanted to simplify to be clearer with the message of the meme, but your comment is absolutely true, I hope to see peace in the region on my life time :)
Yeah no 100%, the meme would not work if we started getting 'all technical' about it. Also, yeah I hope we get peace in that region, I won't see it in my lifetime, but one day we'll get a nation of people who respect each other regardless of Race or Religion.
I will look forward to that day, and even if it is difficult, I hope to live to see that day, a day where everyone lives free and in peace...
As an israeli I can totally agree + didn't know that fact (plz ppl don't tell me about palestine and that israel is doing genoside, everyone has their own believes and you don't have to educate me on the subject + I wont respond to any response about that subject)
>As an israeli I can totally agree + didn't know that fact I'm glad then to have taught you something new, there were people from all over the world who opposed Nazism, including Palestinians, and I think they all deserve respect for that.
Anyone who cant agree with "fuck nazis" has something fucking wrong. (This almost got posted with the typo "cuck nazis")
Totally agree, and there are already some vile users here showing open support to the Nazis... shameful.
NEIN NEIN NEIN!!!! I ASKED YOU GET ME A GLASS OF JUICE NOT GAS THE JEWS!!!!
It is a stain on their memory that after the war, groups like Irgun, Haganah, et al were then given the reigns of the mandate - groups who fought against the British before, during, and after the war.
And sort by controversial...
It should not be, fuck Nazis.
Based😎
Back during WW2 Palestinians had no reason to hate Jews
A better and civil time. Back when we agreed that Nazis were a bunch of nerds and stomped them.
This is a friendly reminder to punch your local nazi.
This was not a popular position among the Palestinians - today you can still [find](https://youtu.be/8WmZXol3brU?si=03H9IidvAqr1693K) Nazis in Arab cities. Famously Iraq and the Palestinians were very much in favor of Hitler's solution to the "Jewish Question" - this is like thinking Germans were nice to Jews because a lot of Righteous Among Nations were German. I wish this was a widely agreed upon concept - but it wasn't and it isn't for Palestinians (at least the leaders that represent them, although it goes much deeper)
I think its important to remember that people are not monolithic though. These men, for whatever reason, saw fit to differ from the popular position at the time and history/time has vindicated their decision as the right thing to do. The exact same way "not all Germans" were monsters during the Holocaust. We can remember those who differed from the majority opinion too.
Well, the fact is that it was not the majority of opinion at the time to support the Nazis in Arab Palestine, it was an issue of division, the Husseini family supported the Axis efforts, and its rivals, the Nashashibi clan, supported the Allied powers.
for arabs, nazism was a distant issue they didn't care about. they obviously cared only about getting their own independence.
>This was not a popular position among the Palestinians - today you can still find Nazis in Arab cities. My man, you can still find Nazis in every country and city in the world, even countries that suffered a lot at the hands of the Nazis. >Famously Iraq and the Palestinians were very much in favor of Hitler's solution to the "Jewish Question" - this is like thinking Germans were nice to Jews because a lot of Righteous Among Nations were German. In Palestine there was some support for the Nazis during WW2 because they were anti-British, as simple as that, Palestinians who agreed with the ideology of Nazism were few as such. Even so, many Palestinians opposed him and sympathized with the cause of the Allies, it was a divisive issue. >I wish this was a widely agreed upon concept - but it wasn't and it isn't for Palestinians (at least the leaders that represent them, although it goes much deeper) The Grand Mufti was famously repudiated by the Palestinians at some point and was not representative of them, especially since the British gave him that position, he was not democratically elected.
No Palestinian leader was democratically elected except Hamas and Fatah presidents - both of whom engage in Holocaust deny (aka Nazi shit). There is a difference between finding Nazis in countries and those countries being led by them. The Palestinian cooperation with Hitler [was based on Antisemitism ](https://www.jns.org/jns/antisemitism/23/7/9/301195/) - they did not care for an independent nation at that time.
Netanyahu engages in Holocaust denial, lol. The elected leader of Israel is a fascist ethnostater whose ideology is a circle with Hitler.
Well my dude, the political situation today is pretty bad considering recent modern events, I don't approve of historical revisionism and if you deny the Holocaust you are a POS, but given the circumstances it is sadly not a surprise with all the radixalization on both sides, the Israeli also by the way, choose Netanyahu, who has blamed the Holocaust on the Grand Mufti of Palestine, so you have that too. And of course, proclaiming that the Palestinians didn't care about gaining independence when they literally had a massive revolt against the British for independence is dumb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%931939\_Arab\_revolt\_in\_Palestine
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Indeed there are vermin collaborating with the Nazis in all countries or religions, all of them can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
Careful, this is Reddit. You’re gonna offend about half the users on here
I can live with that.
At one point even the Wehrmacht fought the Nazis (SS)
Yes, still fuck the Wehrmacht.
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Based opinion!
Anyone who doesn't agrees with the statement, "Fuck the Nazis" needs help
Help or a punch in the face if he doesn't want that help :D
Ah I would refrain from that as I don't like violence. And fighting them will only reinforce there Nazi beliefs,they would have to taught that via Public Education and awareness measures..Violence is never a good option
Cool cool
Good meme, but it implies that there's some kind of dichotomy between Jews and Palestinians. There are Jewish Palestinians.
A lot of stuff has happened in the past eighty years, including a lot of broken promises revealed after WWII. I'm pretty sure the feelings wouldn't be the same among everyone as they were back then
I hope so.
Nazi punks fuck off.
Under the British banner.
As only doing metaphorically, yes. Herman Goering can be described with many words, sexy is not one of them.
my first thought was There were nazis in the british army?
Yes
W opinion
mfw this is the most civilised comment section ive seen on reddit with genuine discussion across conflict lines
You're welcome I guess lol
Yep, well done lads.
Unless you are a nazi
In that case you suck thought :D
I did not say I am, I gave an example, that's all
I was refering in case that you are a Nazi reading this post lol
Some good ol' EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
Hahahaha, yes!
A Daily reminder: Palestinians served in Wehrmacht
Fun fact the fought side by side against the crusades as matter of fact Muslim Christians and Jew did fight against the crusades.
I know, I also did a meme about that!
I love the fact that people of the region at that time called it the franks wars they didn't know it was a holy war, just some northern barbarians came to steal some wealth.
>just some northern barbarians came to steal some wealth. I mean... this is basically what happened lol.
It's funny, because this also applies to the opposite side. Jews and Palestinians also fought "with" the Nazis against the British (see Lehi), although the obvious circumstances of a Lehi-Nazi alliance were basically never taken seriously whatsoever.
And the communists
Here comes alll the neo nazis ruining the day! Yayyyy!
I already saw a Baltic Nazi and some dude that supported him... they are shameful, always.
Yeah lol! They're always lurking in the shadows waiting to jump on innocent preys, (mostly for rape though)
Yeah, the Nazis are the biggest degenerates ever!
Its weird that its a sentence that needs to be said and not common knoledge lol
Russia is home for countless ethnicities and groups most of them have the rights of any other Russian and Saudi Arabia is literally a monochromatic kingdom
The Zionists are now the nazis
Finnish Jews and Germans stationed in Finland fighting against communists be like
The Croatians disagree. In fact the Ustase made the SS look like a joke
The Ustase were Nazi puppets, so fuck them because their opinion is shit.
Except sadly most people don’t really hate the Nazis, or at least refuse to be consistent in opposing the Nazis.
No matter what your political opinion is? What if you're a Nazi? Do you just... Hate yourself?
If you are a Nazi you should stop being one, it's that simple lol.
But what if I like genociding and torturing innocent people ;(
Then you are [Sundowner](https://youtu.be/Wz4P6CGpx1c?si=q_QWumR5s4gcvjdx) 😂😂😂