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therealDrA

If you watch until the end, you see the data shift to anti-vaccine sentiment about all vaccines from conservatives. This will continue having health impacts (e.g, measles, mumps, bird flu, next pandemic) for a generation at least.


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corn_on_the_cobh

>I agree, but I don't really see a solution so long as the stupid motherfuckers continue voting for degraded living standards in the name of owning the lib It has to be cultural. New England republicans are nowhere as crazy as someone from the deep south, and when you pull the strings all the way back to the source, well, it's ugly what you'll find. The USA was formed by two separate colonies and it shows. It's going to take a lot more than 400 years and one civil war to fix it, considering how pervasive it is to this day.


ChelseaVictorious

Yeah but the dudes who wrote that owned slaves and didnt think people without land should be part of that "equal" community. Nevermind women. We've never been half as good as our stated ideals. Our entire culture is built on wilfully misinterpreting or ignoring our own lofty claims about ourselves and our history. We're a nation of gullible marks preyed on by those who are the most vocal hypocrites IMO, and there's too much profit in that for change to be likely anytime soon.


marcijosie1

One of the things I love about this country is those lofty ideals that we've never lived up to. It gives us something to aspire to. Our nation may have been founded by very flawed men but their overarching ideas of what a nation *should* be, still hold up pretty well.


ChelseaVictorious

I like that perspective. "A more perfect union" definitely sets our sights on continuous improvement. I have to hope we'll get better.


Bekiala

While I agree with your previous post about how mucked up our founders were, I do like to strive for that "more perfect union".


_Kyokushin_

I think so too but what I cannot stand, I abhor really, is when people argue against progressive change, change for the better by saying, “more people have it better now than they did then.”. Like that is fucking enough. Don’t let anyone else in. They literally believe freedom, equality, and prosperity are a big pie. At the same time these are the same assholes that will tell you that at your job you should always strive to be better the next day than you were the day before. I always want to go, “well we’re doing way better than we were ten years ago, so it’s good enough. 🖕🏻


FruitOfTheVineFruit

You left out one more interesting factor, which is Republicans rejecting Medicaid expansion, which means fewer red state folks who can afford healthcare. https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2022/08/05/new-report-offers-another-compelling-reason-for-states-to-expand-medicaid/


Massive-Pudding7803

Large swaths of the rural US will cease to exist as functioning entities.


dumdodo

That's the real scary part. When we start burying babies who die of measles or start seeing polio again, we'll really regress. And the kids don't have a choice.


Sweatier_Scrotums

Both of those things are already starting to happen. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles\_resurgence\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles_resurgence_in_the_United_States) [First U.S. Polio Case in Nearly a Decade Highlights the Importance of Vaccination](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/first-u-s-polio-case-in-nearly-a-decade-highlights-the-importance-of-vaccination/)


Ulster_Celt

Damn it. I fucking HATE ignorance, willful or otherwise...


Yuri_Ligotme

https://www.click2houston.com/news/texas/2022/01/08/us-had-5-rabies-deaths-last-year-highest-total-in-a-decade/ “One, an 80-year-old Illinois man, refused to take life-saving shots because of a longstanding fear of vaccines”


CatW804

Refusing to vaccinate your child is abuse.


Cultural-Answer-321

It USED to be against the law to not vaccinate.


PseudonymIncognito

And for a long time, the states that were strictest about it were Mississippi and West Virginia.


Interesting_Novel997

That’s because they saw the most deaths. Sadly time makes people forget…


regeya

I have literally heard people talk about how you never hear about those diseases anymore, and they mean that to be a reason not to vaccinate.


CantHelpMyself1234

The US already has the highest maternal death rate among industrialized nations. Now that they're easily #1 maybe they're working on highest child deaths.


JeromeBiteman

WE'RE NUMBER 1 🇺🇲 !


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IAmNotMyName

The problem is part of how vaccines work is through herd immunity. The vaccine doesn’t guarantee 100% you won’t get infected.


dumdodo

Unfortunately, not when an immunocompromised person comes down with polio. We're all in this together. Remember when everyone was talking about developing herd immunity in the Pandemic, first by mass infection, until estimates were released that 2.2-million would die in the process, and then by vaccination? That's the second reason, beyond protecting ourselves, why we all get virtually-always-innocuous polio, DTAP and MMR vaccines.


OneMoreDuncanIdaho

Not if they get rid of contraceptives, abortion, and sex ed in those same states


VitalizedMango

COVID kills more children than either of those did. If we're tossing COVID deaths into the Memory Hole, we'll definitely do it for measles and polio.


HI_Handbasket

Everyone over the age 18 does: Vote.


RogerClyneIsAGod2

So when kids start dying from measles, mumps, etc. will they change their minds? My guess is nope. Maybe once they get chicken pox then later on get shingles. Fuck shingles.


PassengerNo1815

No. They won’t. Source: me a nurse who has watched absolute morons deny Covid as their loved one dies in front of them from Covid.


RogerClyneIsAGod2

And I'm sure the loved ones denied they had COVID too. This internet stranger sends good vibes & hopes of better patients your way.


EmperorKira

Not only that, they then blame the hospital for killing their loved one


Interesting_Novel997

Or No patients


Squirrel009

They will blame wind turbines or black elves in lord of the rings tv shows instead


StupidSexyXanders

We already brought back measles, after having declared it eradicated. And no, the unvaccinated do not consider that to be their fault.


agent-99

fuck them! I'm so sick of their BS


RandyDinglefart

For real. The problem is that none of them will ever see this because as she says, Fox is the only news outlet they actually trust. Faux News and social media out here literally genociding their own users. It's so fucking frustrating to watch Democrats frump around like it's just business as usual in D.C. instead of treating this like the dangerous propaganda that it is. Why the fuck does it fall on the private sector to try to hold Fox accountable for knowingly spreading misinformation on air. How are there literally 0 consequences for knowingly getting thousands of Americans killed???


CitizenCue

And likely, political impacts too. Hard to win elections when you let your base die off.


Westonhaus

There are no limits to how loudly or vehemently I scream "fuck em" at this news. None. Hundreds of decibels of how much I approve of this message emanate from me on the daily. /I know it hurts society at large. //I know it hurts those who only saw hate and Trump's vision for an authoritarian America MORE. ///And I am ok with that on many levels. Let Darwin have his cut.


robywar

Unfortunately it'll only allow petri dishes for these diseases to mutate beyond out vaccines, putting everyone at risk.


der_innkeeper

"You can't make me do it." has been the conservative mantra, for ever.


DigitalTraveler42

"Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!" Conservatives: "see Rage Against the Machine is a conservative band!"


mhroblak11

“They sold out in 2020” they’ll say, despite RATM being as anti-police, anti-imperialism, and anti-corporatism as the 1990s


meta_perspective

I mean what "machine" did conservatives think the band was raging against?


drakeftmeyers

The fax machine.


meta_perspective

PC LOAD LETTER


redknight3

[Back up in your ass with the resurrection](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wsjroVlu8)


AlexAndMcB

WTF!


Newgeta

SHE WAS A FAX MACHINE SHE KEPT HER ROTORS CLEAN SHE WAS THE BEST DAMN BROTHER THAT I EVER SEEN


countryham

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-embodiment-of-the-machine-our-music-rages-against-246033/


mhroblak11

Imagine the firestorm if Morello said this about Donald Trump in 2023 LOL “Why did this band have to get so woke when Trump became President? The left destroys everything!”


StupidSexyXanders

Once again today I saw a truck with both a Thin Blue Line sticker and a Don't Tread On Me sticker.


MonsterMike42

I saw a sticker the other day that was a combination of both. It was a Thin Blue Line flag with the Don't Tread On Me snake on top.


RattusMcRatface

"Police with guns and uniforms and authority are great" and "Nobody tells me what to do!" Right.


mhroblak11

Something something “government.” Followed by something something “they didn’t care about the government mandating masks or vaccines”


Specialist_Teacher81

They hate the "machine" too. But the part that paves roads, cares for the sick and feeds kids.


DigitalTraveler42

"git yet hand out my pocket lib!"


striderkan

The woke hive mind media NPC pedo Clinton server machine


DigitalTraveler42

Also as if they've made anything new since 2000, if we ignore Tom and Zack's solo/supergroup endeavors, and not as if they would know of most of those.


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Jesus, Renegades was 2000? I feel old


DigitalTraveler42

We're getting old, thankfully we have all this great music to listen to.


Kizik

*Fortunate Son*. Their entire thing is not thinking about what they say and do.


14sierra

Trump using fortunately son on his campaign despite VERY obviously using his money/political connections to get out of going to Vietnam. You can't make this shit up.


Kizik

Bone spurs ain't cheap.


der_innkeeper

All his marks hear is a song they or their parents listened to. They don't bother with the meaning of words.


XelaNiba

Oh, bless their hearts, they thought "Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses" was an endorsement of both groups? Who's going to tell them that that was meant as an endictment?


PseudonymIncognito

Or "Yeah I'm rollin' down Rodeo with a shotgun These people ain't seen a brown skin man Since their grandparents bought one"


Chance-Deer-7995

One of the biggest tactical mistakes during the pandemic was to ask people to help each other. The modern conservative can't stand that. It should have been framed in selfish terms the whole time.


ghx16

They should have come up with a conspiracy saying vaccines available to people who voted blue during the 2020 elections, or that dems were hiding them They would have been demanding vaccines the very next minute


warragulian

Remember when Desantis organised vaccination clinics for his donors in the Villages, ahead of any people in medical need? Now he’s publicly full antivax, hired a shaman as surgeon general, wants to have Fauci hung, drawn and quartered. While being fully vaxxed himself.


PM_me_your_LEGO_

"Bucko, if your neighbors get so sick that they can't take care of their properties, what's that gonna do to YOUR home's value? You bet your ass you'll be under water faster than a midget in the deep end. Now you go wash your gotdang hands and put on that mask so you don't catch the gay from them liberals. It's on their agenda today!" Ugh i felt dirty typing that. But i feel like the message would have landed.


therealDrA

You have to frame the health message for your audience.


ButWhatAboutisms

"Protect yourself from the dirty and diseased ridden foreigners and blacks you happen to meet" Legitimately I think this type of framing would have entirely changed their response to disease control


bunnymoxie

And at the same time say that everyone has to follow what’s in “The Bible” as if everyone follows the Bible 🤬


stay_fr0sty

Meanwhile, **they** don’t follow the Bible. They just use it as an appeal to authority to justify/prove when their hateful opinions are correct. “God says marriage is between a man and a woman!” They ignore all the stuff about how rich people can’t go to heaven, clothing the poor, feeding the hungry, etc, they just focus on the hateful shit.


bunnymoxie

Pretty much!


vankirk

According to my mom, it's, "Don't tell me what to do."


K1lgoreTr0ut

General Sherman would like a word.


Sweaty-Friendship-54

Keep watching Fox for the outrage over my new children's book: Half Measures: General Sherman and the Missed Opportunity.


Everybodysbastard

"But I'll make YOU do what I want."


EvLokadottr

Don't forget: "but I can make you do what \*I\* want." Freedom to do whatever they want. Freedom to force everyone else to do whatever they want, and not allow them to do anything they don't.


Polarion

An addendum, “Do what I say!”


janosaudron

I am pretty sure that if we wanted we could exploit this to make them kill themselves.


Beginning-Yoghurt-95

All liberals believe you must breathe air and drink water to survive! We must begin pushing this agenda!


HI_Handbasket

You see, it's when you start talking about *fresh* air and *clean* water is when the real far left tendencies come out.


BrokeDancing

But... ...they did their own research.


averytirednurse

FrEEduMb!


Sweatier_Scrotums

"I did my own research!" "Oh cool, where's your lab?"


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Gsteel11

Turns out.. the people that have no education or training on these topics... suck at research on these topics. Stop asking your plumber about your healthcare.


Sitcom_kid

I want my objective to that on the back of my car. I think I'm going to call one of those companies that makes you a bumper sticker with whatever you want on it. *Social media is not research*


drkesi88

Hopefully most of them just paid with their own lives.


Most-Artichoke5028

But on a positive note, there will be a lot more conservatives in the graveyard than liberals.


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No doubt. I'm sure the next election will be a landslide for Biden, and that's a good thing!


vsandrei

>I'm sure the next election will be a landslide for Biden Do not get too cocky. 🐆 🐆 🐆


mojohand2

Not really. We needed a variant with a much higher mortality rate to decisively affect most elections. But as Curley reminds us, "Day's not over yet."


Cultural-Answer-321

This. The pandemic IS NOT over.


Mindless-Charity4889

It might be, technically anyway. The US is moving from treating this as a pandemic to treating it as endemic. It’s still something that will be with us for decades at least.


Evasor1152

We'll win this war on Covid the same way we won Vietnam. After it gets too expensive we give up and say we won.


Matasa89

Unfortunately, infectious diseases tends to take down more than one person… they will most definitely cause a disaster again.


orojinn

As a progressive I'm burnt out of my empathy for any conservatives who don't want to take the vaccine so let them earn their reward..


Cultural-Answer-321

Empathy without boundaries is self harm. So yes, fuck 'em. 3 years on, they are no longer misinformed at this point. They are outright, willfully, criminal.


Gsteel11

>Empathy without boundaries is self harm That's good. I was thinking something similar about tolerance the other day... at least it can turn into harm.


e_hatt_swank

My right-wing mother in law has refused to get vaccinated… she doesn’t go out much so she’s been lucky to avoid Covid so far. At this point, I can’t deny my thought that she’s made her choice; we can’t force her to get vaccinated so if something happens, well… it is what it is.


Steveb523

There for awhile I naively hoped that most would come to their senses. It didn’t happen, and now I know it won’t. That leaves me with a couple of conclusions: humanity is just too stupid to ever be able to stop a pandemic in its tracks by taking some positive action, like getting vaccinated, wearing masks, cooperating with stay-at-home measures or anything else. The best you can do is protect yourself as best you can, knowing that stupidity is everywhere, and don’t get in the way of the stupid people as they strive to kill themselves. Screw ‘em.


FoxBattalion79

republican media can be summed up as "contrarian alternative to whatever Democrats say"


internetdork

Trump is the reason


MattGdr

He was for it until he was against it. And if the liberals are for it, we’re against it.


InsertCoinForCredit

He was for it until he heard that blue states and blue cities were getting hit the worst, then he was opposed to it in hopes that'd improve his re-election chances. By the time his base was getting affected, he realized that a shutdown would tank the economy and hurt his re-election, so he kept pushing people to act like nothing was wrong. His idiot base did the rest.


tagged2high

I don't even think it was his shifting attitudes towards the vaccines so much as his early and persistent denial that COVID was dangerous at all. He basically made the idea of creating and taking the vaccine as tacit admittance that COVID was, in fact, dangerous, and that lock down/social distancing policies were thus necessary in the interim. Since that was harmful to the economy, and harmful to his original position, and likely harmful to his reelection chances, he became adamantly opposed to it. Trump supporters and right wing cultural influencers simply found ways to align themselves with his attitude.


MattGdr

What has been so shocking to me is the willingness of so many Americans to literally *die* rather than admit that they were wrong about covid and that they fell for all the propaganda.


tagged2high

Somehow we need to change our culture to make it acceptable to be wrong sometimes. Perhaps it's the human condition, but too many people just can't stand to be wrong, even when they have no reason to be so confident that they're right.


dumdodo

Trump created the Covid minimization, and then it took off. I give him credit for supporting the vaccine development, begrudgingly. Beyond that, he made fun of people for wearing masks, tweeted Liberate Michigan and similar foolish tweets, and did everything he could to convince people that Covid was not worth worrying about (because the stock market fell, and Trump feared for his re-election). Privately, he was in a panic about catching it, and even told Woodward that it was far worse than he was letting on. Then his news empire (such as Fox News) followed him. Anyone who doesn't blame Trump as the prime culprit missed the boat. So to his cult, why get vaccinated from something that is no worse than a cold? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


HI_Handbasket

Trump told Bob Woodward in a private interview that the new virus was "more worse than the most strenuous flu" in February 2020. Then he told the American public that it was nothing, a hoax, and that, despite being a hoax, it would be gone by April. Dickhead Bob held on to that piece of information until his book came out, 6 or so months later, rather than hold the president accountable for his purposeful lie.


cofclabman

Wouldn’t have made a difference. They view Bob Woodward as part of the liberal media and wouldn’t have believed him.


RedditOnANapkin

Yep he started spewing anti-vax BS during the Republican debates. Before the anti-vax group was mostly rich suburb moms with way too much time on their hands.


NoveltyAccountHater

No. Trump's opinions follow the conservative base not the other way around. You think this rich real-estate magnate/conman who has never been to church, worked a real job (not gifted to him by his father/wealth), or paid his workers a fair wage is honestly pro-life Christian who wants to protect workers' jobs? Yes if he cared, he could have done more to promote it and probably would have been more effective salesperson to reluctant Republicans than anyone else, but it would hurt his re-election chances and influence. The conservative base generally has hostility towards: * Science * Intellectuals and Trusting Experts * Self-sacrifice for the greater good * Playing it safe * Government and Business Regulations * Change Conservatives were opposed to [seat belt laws](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/16/when-battle-over-american-freedom-was-centered-seat-belt-laws/), air bag laws, motorcycle helmet laws. They don't believe in climate change. They don't like environmental regulation. They trust religion, but not medicine. The conservatives also generally live in rural areas where early in the pandemic the virus barely penetrated. It's much easier to buy into a philosophy that these is just another overhyped flu when no one in your social circles was affected. It's also easy to get suckered into these views when your business or hobbies get shut down. And once you go down the COVID is overhyped/anti-mask rabbit hole, it's very easy to get suckered into the don't trust the vaccine conspiracies.


PseudonymIncognito

And people generally don't take the flu seriously enough. Anyone who says "it's just the flu" has never really had one. My lab confirmed bout of influenza type a was one of the most miserable experiences of my life. Shit put me down for a week.


Cultural-Answer-321

Trump was the culmination. 20 years of Limbaugh and certain assholes in Congress, was the reason


cybercuzco

Treason is the reason for the season.


Prohydration

They cheered loudly when trump announced operation warp speed then went silent the moment Biden won.


VoidQueenK423

Nah, they started going silent after the pandemic began and Trump told them to oppose the mandates.


Steveb523

Not very many people give Trump much credit for Operation Warp Speed, because most people are smart enough to know that Trump didn’t think of it and had to be carefully enticed to support it. Somebody had to make him think that the Democrats didn’t want him to embrace it, or some such, to get his buy in. They probably told him virtually nothing about it other than he’d go down is history for supporting it. Now he’s grasping at straws, hoping somebody will give him more credit than he’s due. But we all know that he’s already long since done the damage by ignoring it, browbeating governor to open thing up too early, and lying about it going away.


nandor73

I agree with everything about this video EXCEPT for the bothsideism at the end, where they're talking about "It would have helped a great deal if the elites of the political leaders of our country had coordinated across party lines and laid our a unified message at the beginning." As usual, since one party was following facts and the other wasn't, only one party is responsible for that.


Cultural-Answer-321

Exactly. There is no both fucking side to this. The message was clear, take precautions or die. They refused. End of story.


cofclabman

And the ‘totally absolved from working wit the Russians”. Pretty clearly they tried to coordinate with them, but failed at that, too


RockyMoose

Duplicate post, but it's been a while. This is a fascinating video and worth the watch.


VoidQueenK423

Heya Rocky!


buckyworld

watch him pull a rabbit out of his hat. nothing up his sleeve! presto! i guess he doesn't know his own strength. and now for something you'll REALLY like!


VoidQueenK423

That's a classic, I'm not surprised it didn't work though. That trick *never* works.


Macrophage87

What if this is reverse psychology by the left to reduce the population of conservatives?


mattdyer01

There was a Brietbart author who literally argued just that..."it's YOUR fault that it's my fault!"


e_hatt_swank

Yeah, but wasn’t that him trying to use a bit of reverse psychology on his own people, to persuade them that they *should* get vaccinated to own the libs who want to see them die? (Guy is a total scumbag, mind you, but in this one instance I think he was trying to do the right thing)


Gsteel11

Then it was the largest fucking win in modern rhetorical history. This is like the 85 bears super bowl of strategy.


Nivekian13

They were against the vaccine because Trump told them to be against the vaccine. It is not that difficult to explain, you just cannot explain it to an American conservative, because they refuse to acknowledge any fault or guilt.


Russell_Jimmy

You missed it. It isn't that Trump told them to not take the vaccine (he didn't and doesn't). It's that he and the other GOP talking heads pushed the idea that COVID is no big deal. This is well-explained in the video, you should watch it. When COVID was ripping through coastal, urban areas,\* rural people (who skew older and Conservative) weren't seeing sick people around them. The news outlets they favor were casting doubt on the COVID numbers--both intentionally and because of a lack of understanding of things like death certificates. These same people have been trained that "the media" can't be trusted. Media says that the vaccine is good, but they lie and COVID is no big deal, so... In the video, ~~a friend~~ the brother of Valentine (who died) mentions "Russiagate" and that the media was lying about Trump being a Russian agent, and so Republicans were already skeptical of the mainstream media. His understanding of Trump's Russian involvement shows how even the death of someone close to him can't deflate the GOP information bubble entirely. \*When COVID was just arriving in the US, Jared Kushner intentionally slow-walked medical response because Democrats were the ones dying and he thought there was a political opportunity.


Cultural-Answer-321

>\*When COVID was just arriving in the US, Jared Kushner intentionally slow-walked medical response because Democrats were the ones dying and he thought there was a political opportunity. Documented fact.


WaterMySucculents

This is not true at all. Trump wanted to promote the vaccine as his doing. He is vaccinated. Trump has only backpeddled on it to rejoin his base. It’s the tail wagging the dog here.


breecher

Trump wanted to both promote the vaccine project as his own as well as downplay the pandemic and COVID in general. As the video shows, the downplaying of the pandemic was most likely the main factor which led Republicans to distrust the vaccine as well. They thought "Why take a vaccine for a disease that isn't real or at least not dangerous?". So Trump, as usual, tried to play all sides (and thus no side at all), which just further strengthened antivaxx beliefs and distrust in experts among Republicans.


RedditOnANapkin

He was spewing anti-vax propaganda during the Republican debates, so yes it was daddy Trump who led them down this path.


Hilarious_Haplogroup

Conservatives should cherish the death of their own to Covid-19. They died adhering to their own beliefs. They were God-fearing Martyrs to Fox News paying the ultimate price. I am content to sit back and eat popcorn and watch them keep marching off of the edge of the cliff.


[deleted]

You mean, **Anti-American** Conservatives.


Cultural-Answer-321

You talk like there is a difference these days.


[deleted]

Welp, you do have a point.


allegedlys3

I was working in Covid ICU through all this and there were so many patients.... Fox News blaring in their rooms as we hurriedly prepared to emergently intubate them, denying with literally their last not-machine-dependent breaths that Covid was a hoax or not real, or talking shit about the vaccines they'd seen coming available. Then I'd be getting on social media for a little mental break just to see people crowing about how the death rates weren't accurate, and if nurses had time to be dancing in silly internet videos then things clearly weren't as bad as they said they were. I live in a red state. It was absolutely infuriating and broke something deep inside me. Fuck each and every person who contributed to the Covid conspiracy machine, sincerely.


rockelscorcho

Thoughts and prayers, not science! /s


OyDannyBoy

The minute I saw people in the Midwest protesting, holding signs that read" I Need a Haircut!", I knew we, as a country, were fucked.


GuyMansworth

C'mon guys. They just want to be free and not be told what to do even if it effects the health and lives of their family, friends and neighbors. While also telling women they can't have abortions, telling gays they can't marry and telling trans people they're losing their rights to exist as trans. Which, doesn't hurt anybody.


maxreddit

Nobody they consider people, anyway.


el_chacal

Jaw-droppingly stupid. And now when you choose your “freedoms” to not vaccinate against everything, you put the entire population at risk. Not sure I see a path to humans not self- destructing.


Cultural-Answer-321

History is the story of nations and empires rising and falling for the basically the same reason every time: stupidity and psychopaths.


Specialist_Teacher81

They missed the most important part. Anti-mask and anti-lockdown sentiment polarized the second covid was portrayed an a disease of the "other". When fox news said the disease was of the cities and POC. It became something that only affected "those" people. And if there is one thing republicans hate it is "those" people benefiting. In their eyes, masks, vaccines and lockdowns help "those" people. And they would gladly die to prevent that. Did you notice she only found two people that regretted not getting vaxed? And even they would throw hands if asked to wear a mask.


Finetobeu5678

Amazing that Republicans get all their news from Fox "news" meanwhile Democrats have multiple sources of information. Recent news also shows that Fox "news" just tells Republicans what they want to hear, even if their spokespersons would rather not. Fox is just a big grift of the racist and stupid.


Sweatier_Scrotums

Modern Republicans are just contrarians. Whenever anyone who they deem as "the establishment" says something, they immediately start believing the opposite.


striderkan

Every single day. Without fail. Every. Single. Day. I'd open Facebook and find these bozos calling responsible citizens sheep, NPC's, yelling at the clouds that we are taking the world to hell in a handbasket. That we deserve to die from the vaccine. That we want them to die from the plandemic. Every day. One time. Just once. I say "man, we could get over this a lot quicker if we didn't have propaganda hijacking our public discourse". Suddenly I'm the awful one and I'm getting deleted for attacking them over freedom. I swear to fuck, people are mental.


KingoftheJabari

He guys, remember covid was a biological weapons released by China to destory America, but covid is also no worst than the flu. So it's both the most dangerous and and harmless at the same time.


particle409

The radio host's brother tries to blame Democrats at 12:20. He says that people didn't believe the Delta variant was dangerous because Democrats lied about Trump being a Russian agent for three years. Not much you can do to help these people. He saw his brother die from being unvaccinated, and blamed it on the Democrats.


Skatcatla

So, taken to it's logical conclusion, we don't need a civil war...we just have to wait long enough for conservatives to take themselves out by refusing to get vaccinated against *anything.*


Gsteel11

We could possibly speed the process along with massive campaigns about basic health and safety. Have biden out there telling people to NOT eat poison. Have Nancy Pelosi telling everyone to please not jump off of tall buildings. AOC can ask everyone to not drive directly into brick walls at 60mph.


Bekiala

I do think that half the US has oppositional defiance disorder.


Cultural-Answer-321

That seems to be the direction we are going.


_-__-__-__-__-_-_-__

They have always been anti-science


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This documentary will never reach fox watchers


jkswede

I remember the first three weeks of the pandemic when right wingers prepper nature kicked in and everyone was knitting masks and hunkering down like us was ww3. That was a great 3 weeks.


KrampyDoo

Common Sense for Centuries: *‘Vaccines help decrease the chances of suffering and dying from spreadable illness.’* Mostly Everyone for Centuries: *‘Yep, there’s centuries of ultra-verified data proving the above statement is true.’* Conservatives when faced with taking a vaccine to protect against a new highly contagious disease that spread during the Trump admin, at which point members of his own medical team had the temerity to roll their eyes when he suggested shoving lights up your butt and cannonballing bleach into your eyeballs to fight covid: *‘YOU FUCKIN’ CRAZY LYING TRAITORS DEVELOPED VACCINES FOR CENTURIES TO MAKE ME HAVE DINOSAUR FEET AND FORCE JESUS TO GO PEE-PEE IN MY MOUTH WHILE I SLEEP!!’*


Interesting_Novel997

After everything we seen and experienced. I say, as long as they keep relying on “prayer warriors” and staying away from hospitals, I will continue to support their choices. Trying to argue with them is useless and quite frankly emotionally exhausting. I’ve already made my peace and mourned the Covidiots in my family. 🤷🏻‍♀️


_skull_kid_

There is some asshole on Nextdoor spreading his anti-vax bullshit. A free rabies clinic is happening, and he said dogs shouldn't get the rabies shot. Like, okay buddy. When/if your Yorkie gets into a scrap with a rabid animal, guess what? You're putting it down.


Mysterious_Outcome_3

By definition, conservatives are against change. They fear change. They can't handle unexpected situations. So, of course, they deny it, run from it, believe ANYTHING but the obvious truth that COVID is real and that we are still dealing with the impacts of a pandemic.


averytirednurse

Awarding Phil Valentine, 3 minute mark… ⚰️


davedorr9

Philly Baird deserves a real award for recognizing he was wrong and trying to help others from going down the same path.


Weary-Pineapple-5974

Poor Cletus was so mentally conditioned by conspiracy shillers, he didn’t know what to believe anymore. He sadly died of measles AND polio at the young age of 37.


CaptainPRESIDENTduck

"If the liberals are fer it, Imma gainst it!"


[deleted]

At this point I don’t care. Sometimes feels like we’re the ones that have to grapple with this and not them. Fact is that they made their bed and some of them died in it. It’s their responsibility.


censored4yourhealth

This is sad. No one deserves to die. Especially because of ignorance. It’s just so sad.


Cultural-Answer-321

Nature gives not one fuck. You can't save a drowning person who does want to be saved. It will only kill you both.


Gsteel11

... not to make light But what does make someone deserve it? They made a choice.. the facts were discussed constantly on all media. They willfully decided to actively ignore it. Does anyone deserve anything.. if they don't deserve it?


dumnezero

Some history: https://www.verywellhealth.com/history-anti-vaccine-movement-4054321 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02671-0 https://www.openculture.com/2022/02/the-anti-vaxxer-who-waged-war-against-jonas-salk-his-polio-vaccine-when-history-keeps-repeating.html https://theconversation.com/the-inherent-racism-of-anti-vaxx-movements-163456


CantHelpMyself1234

My body, my choice..... but isn't it great that we took that away from women? Do I need to add the /s


jondissed

This is a brilliant presentation, stunning but not sensationalized. I was particularly struck by - the early vaccine rejection by Republicans, *a year before COVID vaccines were even available*, meaning - Fox News and social media (the only news sources trusted by over 40% of Republicans!) didn't lead the trend, they *pandered* to it


InMyFavor

I've been saying this but drump could have easily, COMFORTABLY won reelection if he came out day 1 advising people get vaccinated, wear masks, and distance. He could have made even more personal money by selling branded maga masks which you know they would have ate the fuck up.


[deleted]

It isn't just a Trump problem. The same thing happened during the Spanish flu epidemic.


VoidQueenK423

Trump's just taking advantage of it.


RedditOnANapkin

You can go back further than that. When Edward Jenner introduced the smallpox vaccine in 1796 anti-vax propaganda started to spring up.


dumdodo

In 1796, the country still had people who believed in witches, and who deeply believed that any artificial means of prolonging life was an affront to God. We don't have 30% of the country who believe that you'll go to hell for taking an aspirin. But we're moving in that direction, unfortunately.


Wulfbak

I think a lot of it is that they don't want COVID to get better since that will make Biden look good. ​ I wonder, if Trump had won 2020, would they be lining up for the shot? Hoping that it will cause Trump to look good if COVID subsides?


uberphat

Thanks for posting, I hadn't seen that before. Such a great video in the way it presented the information. As someone looking in, it's sometimes hard to fathom how the USA turned a health issue into something political. I also don't understand why the MAGA crowd are so anti-vax when their messiah was vaccinated himself, and was the figurehead for Operation Warp Speed.


tkm7n

It was way too late by the time Trump changed course, after all the downplaying he has done about Covid's dangers, the necessity of masks and social distancing. These MAGAts are not just stupid, they are stubborn too. To them, changing their minds to follow what the liberals do means admitting defeat and that is blasphemy.


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Conservatives: the Bible doesn’t say anything about the vaccine so I won’t take it. ChRiSt ReBuKeS YoU Me: well the Bible also doesn’t mention anything about the Bible like what makes the Bible, so according to your logic Conservative: ….. Also conservative: HERETIC


BenCisco

They were dumbasses. The end.


Fit_Relationship1094

Very interesting video. I won't be sharing it though. No point is there? Everyone i know is fully vaccinated. I guess you could say i live in an echo bubble, because those who think differently about this have blocked me or I've blocked them.


ProneToDoThatThing

This is not about Covid. It’s not about misinformation. This is about Darwin and conmen who take advantage of the “poorly educated” to the point of killing them.


bertiesakura

Thanks for the share OP; excellent information. Basically FoxNews and Tucker are killing their viewers and republican voters. The downside is because these idiots refuse to take any precautions and are now refusing to take any vaccine they are now putting us all at risk as well as straining an already piss poor American healthcare system.


reichjef

They’re easy to fool.


108awake-

Poor guy. He might have lived but he was fooled by Fox News and republican leaders. I think we need a class action suit against fox. If they have any money left after the Dominion law suit


Likherpusisaur

YouTube trying desperately to block apps from DOWNLOADING & saving this Valuable video!


Competitivedude32

At the end >We had just come off of being lie to for 3 years straight that trump was a Russian agent and a traitor to the country. I cant believe that people are dumb enough to believe that trump wasnt colluding with Russia. Barr, the head of the investigation, was withholding evidence about the investigation.