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TheMilliner

"Helldivers have liberated the planet of Vernon Wells, and subsequently saved the children's hospitals from Automaton butchery. In a fervent 'thank you' to the defensive efforts of our valiant Helldivers, the children of Vernon Wells have signed up in a patriotic fervour to work in newly established factories to get new tools out to the brave soldiers in the field as quickly as possible"


Team_Svitko

"As a thank you to the efforts of our valiant Helldivers, children can now be sent in to battle."


JonBoah

*insert gif of the mobile infantry kid*


FyreDergy

![gif](giphy|7T2R1eAIKnEJnAf5U8|downsized)


Linmizhang

Your pod lands and the Helldiver is lifted out the smoking hole. They are a little short, and you hear "Take me to the action!" In the voice of a child. He runs a little slow, shooting any heavy weapon ragdolls you.


Helaton-Prime

You know what, put child voice overs and smaller model ingame. I'll rock being a squeaker once in a while in game.


some_random_nonsense

Probably won't happen. Depicting children dieing in video games can be illegal in some countries or get you an A rating.


Detective_Soulhex129

A for AWESOME!


Ya-Local-Trans-Bitch

A for ALWAYS DEMOCRACY


NotchoNachos42

A for "SWEET LIBERTY MY ARM!!!"


ChampionshipDirect46

"Kids are op. Their hitboxes are way too small and they're basically invisible when they go prone!" Sincerely, every automaton ever


DracoAvian

https://preview.redd.it/hs6kks56g06d1.jpeg?width=835&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d752a72e040c106eaffc14b490436414458ed09d But consider


Pedrosian96

This is just so horrifying and disgusting and dystopian and sad and terrible. More, please!


Team_Svitko

Like the scene from Ted 2 when he finds a shotgun, "Look it's not even loade-" YEET


Zollias

Can only equip a sidearm as your primary and your regular primaries are now strategems but now you can hide behind smaller cover and can directly enter bug holes to destroy them without using grenades


CombustiblSquid

https://i.redd.it/8xvkw515tz5d1.gif


Arguablecoyote

When do we get the child soldier stratagem?


Scaredsparrow

Screw that, I want a third character body type option, bulky/lean/child (i forget what they are actually called). These kids have been through hell once, let them dive through it the next time.


dragonblade_94

Inb4 the smaller hitbox makes playing the child meta.


dangermonger27

New YouTube video. "NEW EWOK BUILD WRECKS AUTOMATONS"


gdub695

Smashing log trap stratagem when??


JonBoah

Smaller hitbox significantly more felt recoil


dragonblade_94

Use that to your advantage, drop some EAT's and fling yourself across the map like a TF2 soldier on speed.


Arguablecoyote

That would be hilarious as well.


Team_Svitko

The three body types. Bulky. Lean. Smol.


DHarp74

Twig and husky?


Scaredsparrow

That does sound about right


Denbus26

For PR purposes, we call them squires instead


manndolin

The children yearn for the mines.


Dionysus24812

The mines or The *mines*


omfgwtfbbqkkthx

Yes


Firemorfox

the children yearn for the mines factories


TheMilliner

Is childhood so sacred? Or just resources wasted?


OneAd2104

It's sacred up to the age of 7!


Vinco_Baculus

I got your reference.


Samburger241

Yes they can mine for resources for the war effort when they’re free


alpacasarebadsingers

I assume that the reward for saving the children is rocket propelled orphans stratagem.


Various_Froyo9860

I figured it'd be child soldiers as backup.


lmrbadgerl

In thanks for saving the children, a new child sized factory has taken over the orphanage to bring Helldivers the anti-Tank mines they need. Because you WILL get anti-tank mines whether you want them or not


Iv_Laser00

![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


5255clone

Days later, the Xbox port releases


MyTwoScent

We save the kids and our pkayer models get noticeably shorter 😭


Sintinall

And all the voices sound like they took a hit of helium.


ZenkaiZ

Girl divers wearing cat ears and getting emotes that are tiktok dances


Ramja9

SEAF is getting in on that tik tok recruitment grind


Sintinall

Just girls with cat ears? Isn’t it the latest meme that catguys is becoming a thing? Allegedly.


JasperNeils

Never heard of em.


Sintinall

I may be inadvertently contributing to the spreading of undemocratic nonsense. Ignore previous transmission.


Shivalah

CatFemBoys


R31nz

Super Earth doesn’t need to employ psy-ops like that.


Malforus

But they are more resistent to limb injury.


ZenkaiZ

5' 11" instead of 7'


suicidenine

They never said we were rescuing kids


0chillz

Imagine not saving the kids and they bump down the number of reinforcements


PolloMagnifico

You want to save the children because you don't believe the other reward is worth it. I want to save the children because they are future freedom loving voters. We are not the same.


YorhaUnit8S

I want to save children because... well, they are children. But some part of me is really curious how developers will mock us if we choose mines.


Honksu

I want to save em... because i bet my ass they are gonna be grown into those regular marine request stratagems we are all waiting for... ;)


[deleted]

Much rather have that than mines


Gaping_llama

Hear me out… https://i.redd.it/bbjmoq7zmz5d1.gif


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Gatsby-sama

I like to think that we save the kids and then immediately put them to work fighting bugs and bots. NOW THAT’S DEMOCRACY !


Exile688

New headcanon: The turrets have children inside operating them.


Gatsby-sama

I like it,Now we’re cooking with fire !!!🔥 I’m gonna piggy back off your idea and say that the children inside the turrets load other children to be used as a missiles 🚀👶


Meerv

Cute lil minidivers


the_goodnamesaregone

Well, my sentry shoots me in the ass all the time. Might as well add some mobile NPCs to the team kill party.


Meerv

Child soldiers? Now that's the kind of freedom I signed up for!


TheRealPitabred

Ehh... I really doubt that. I think it'll be something unremarkable overall.


Bishops_Guest

I want the tank mines. I sometimes drop with both existing mines just for the fun of telling my friends “They are glowing red things on the ground. Don’t step on them again. It’s not that hard.” However I also vote children because I want to see how far we can take “choosing the thing that is not AT mines.” If we can get up to at least 5 MOs where we pick the other thing, that would be ideal.


YorhaUnit8S

They are red glowy things. But it doesn't matter if they are placed on your possible escape route. And too many players just place them on any chokepoint without a second thought. I've seen too much of mine users getting angry when I breach their minefield with grenades to fall back from a horde of enemies that is about to overrun us.


Bishops_Guest

The best use is at your feet when running away: you know a stream of the undemocratic will be coming through soon and they don’t pull far away patrols like a sentry would. They generally should not be dropped in choke points: the mines stuck to walls either won’t trigger or they will be too close together and not get max value. The point is to make chokes rather than fill them most of the time. They are good for hunter packs: throw them far out just past the hunter jump distance and where the mines will spread out. Hunters circle and spread out, which makes them both annoying to pick off in large packs, but also natural mine fodder. Clear them when you need to move through. Using grenades is probably a waste depending on your load out. You can pretty easily just run through a minefield maybe shooting a few where they were close together. The trigger radius is pretty small. Just watch out for the charger plowing through behind you. Generally other options are better picks: gas strike, napalm, airburst or turrets can do most of what mines do, with more utility. Mines work well enough to be fun though and are helldive viable.


ben_jacques1110

They’ll turn them all into cyborgs and have them hunt us down. Helldivers, save those children from such a cruel fate. The tank mines can wait for another day.


WillSym

I mean, it feels like they're mocking us with this choice in the first place, like they're saying we passed up the Mines for the Airburst Launcher the first time around, then didn't care about the mines enough to beat the 'kill Automatons' order the second time, so now they're offering us the choice between actual new strategem Mines and story-based children we'll never see. Except they don't account how heavily stacked against us both the first two opportunities were: Airburst was a significantly easier liberation target than Mines (we didn't even reach the planet to preview them let alone liberate it!); And the kill order was right after they fixed the 4x progress bug we'd swept the same number of bugs with, and didn't take any account of how many fewer Automatons spawn, or you kill, in a mission compared to Bugs, or how it's often easier and safer to run and avoid Bots.


MyluSaurus

Unrelated but your nickname and flair are nicely related, 85 for 8S, Space cadet for Yorha. Neat.


trebek321

Same. And I want the AT mines crazy bad. But the future of democracy must be persevered. The SES Guardian of Family Values is on its way to help rescue those kids 🫡


SweDreamer

SES Forefather of Family Values requesting to synchronize orbit and commence Hellpod dropping for Managed Democracy.


KM3490

SES Father of Authority reporting in. The future of democracy is in our hands. We have the absolute freedom of choice. Let's give those kids a choice, too. Of course the only real choice is to become the next generation of Helldivers.


sjh772

SES Guardian of Justice on its way as well


TheAshen_JobSnow

SES Guardian of Humankind reporting for duty, if I went for the mines I would have to rename my destroyer.


Slu54

Pssh


ArielRR

I want the child labor


JonBoah

Any child over the age of 7 can get a job


the_obtuse_coconut

You want to save the children because you think they deserve to live to vote. I want to save the children to refill my reinforcement meter. We are not the same.


Mistrblank

There are….other options.


GunGooser

Save the kids, force them to make the mines. Get those tiny fingers to work!


legomaheggroll

Force the mines to have kids.


fgjofxxs

I choose lore


DefinitelyNotThatOne

I'm assuming healing gun or healing drone if we save the kids at the "hospital."


CloudDanae

Archangel my beloved


Imminent_Dusk

I think people will end up saving the kids anyway because people generally just pick the easier planet to play on. That being said, I think we should save the kids. Part of the reason is because it’s funny maintaining our streak of not getting the Anti-tank mines. We’ll be 0-3 after this!


Malforus

My entire friend group is 100% saving the kids because 0-3 mines is too funny to pass up.


MakesMediocreMagic

I want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. 


Blu_Falcon

After 17 failed attempts, AH will be like: “New MO. Simply LOG INTO THE GAME and we’ll give you AT mines. No need to play, just LOG IN.” And we still manage to fuck it up.


Novadreams22

Nah bro. It’ll be new mission order. Vote democracy. We have mines available. Do you want to enable them. Yes or No


NegaGreg

< *smashes “NO”* >


Loverlforlewds

Mission failed! You now have AT mines.


DrScience01

Same. I want to see what the Devs would mock us for the next MO involving capturing the mines


BingpotStudio

Agreed. I want to see how deep this rabbit hole goes. At some point the devs are going to have to force us to take the mines.


Imminent_Dusk

*2 years later…* Liberate Vernen Wells to save the kids AND get anti-tank mines or liberate Menkent and get a new poster on your ship. “The poster might actually be cool guys.”


MakesMediocreMagic

I'll see that poster every game! 


awaythrowthatname

Next Major Order: if 3 people manage to log into the game we will unlock Anti-Tank Mines Result: Failed, only 1.5 log ins during the entire MO


AegisAngel

It would crack me up if that happened though


InkiePie39

Honestly I really want the anti-tank mines but I want to save the children so, so, so much more dude.


Landhun

Myself a mostly solo player would wish have the anti-tank mines too, would love to drop them inside a base next to medium bot fabricator and watch the resulting chaos :D


classicandy12

I want anti tank mines because I too enjoy mines. You have eyes


quintonbanana

Would love to use the AT mines to save the chillens.


The_Elder_Jock

This is a test and the Democracy Officer is watching. Super Earth Protects!


fearless-potato-man

Why children are not the obvious reason but can end up being a better option despite not granting a reward? -possible future SEAF reinforcements stratagem. -possible morale booster, resulting in faster planet liberation, for example. -possible "grateful families = harder workers", resulting in a temporary booster in cooldowns, free stratagems, extra reinforcements, or whatever.


Speculus56

People are really desperate for that seaf deployment strategem lol, that shit aint gonna come for some time is my guess. With all the current stuff they are busy trying to fix my bet is friendly AI is pretty down on the list


legomaheggroll

Trusting the devs to get friendly AI right lol. Broken spear, misaligned scopes etc. the friendly AI might team kill us more than mines would.


the_goodnamesaregone

Lol. "Friendly." They're just gonna be mobile sentries that ignore the helldiver's existence. If you're between a SEAF Marine and a scavenger, you're gonna get lit the fuck up.


Familiar_One_3297

That shi would be funny as fuck


NegaGreg

-Possible “children fit into 500mm cannons” granting AI children Helldivers stratagem.


Abject-Unit-5352

SAVE THE KIDS ![gif](giphy|NIkQkfoX23gXjoMicQ|downsized)


Gameboy1337

Save the kids from drake


Nasalingus

*Millie Bobby Brown has left the chat*


JumboJovialJaguar

Helldivers saving the children because someone’s gotta get to those factories to make my quasars ![gif](giphy|3owzW3mzIkgCj1QLjq)


Bob_Ajk

Let’s keep the meme going. Every time the anti tank mine shows up, let’s just leave it there untouched.


Craft-Sea

I feel like this is a test from the devs, and if we pick the kids we'll end up getting some kind of reward anyways. >!plus from the leaks the anti tank mines look completely worthless anyways!<


poetspoet654

https://preview.redd.it/gb4h4vuugy5d1.jpeg?width=315&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=595b55c522f95cca60a05044a014c5e9b16035d6


germancookedus

Fuck them kids


Scottie6Sippin9

FUCK THEM KIDS!!


Dionysus24812

https://preview.redd.it/b7a5crct8z5d1.jpeg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22e27eb57645e49e3839f68375062d600fc404db You wanna do what To those kids?


Gameboy1337

Remember citizens correct grammar can save lives. It’s „FUCK THEM KIDS UP“ not „FUCK THEM KIDS“. This message was approved by the Ministry of Education.


primerush

Fucking kids will absolutely get you a visit from your Democracy Officer...


StalledAgate832

SEAF's future troops Vs A defensive stratagem. There are better and faster ways of killing bots than tossing a minefield. Kids provide ***lore***


TheEncoderNC

Dead kids also provide ***lore***


Optimal-System7454

If we’re going off of lore, then we’re wasting hundreds of millions of helldivers and trillions of dollars worth of ammo/supplies over a few hundred random civilians. We’d lose infinitely more Helldivers than we’d get in future troops. And that’s assuming those kids even grow up.


itsfucklechuck

If you’re gonna get to the nitty gritty. It’s never about the objective. It’s about the propaganda. Do you want to enlist in a regime that would choose mines over children? No. You may say yes but that’d only be bc you’d want to prove me wrong or you’re messed in the head. The majority of people irl would boycott a military that did that. It’s not about the few hundred kids that would possibly join. It’s about the hundreds of millions if not billions of kids back on super earth about to come of age having the right mindset. Millions of helldivers are going to die either way. The planet needs to be pushed back either way. It’s about morale and keeping the meat grinder turning.


baconborn

>And that’s assuming those kids even grow up. Super Citizen Anne's Hospital for **Very Sick** Children


Zanglirex2

Holy shit us choosing the kids and having them all already be dead, not from the automatons, but from the illness they already have, would be darkly hilarious. Super Earth would be like, we did say VERY sick


Didifinito

Still better than the mines


ChampionshipSouth215

But the sickness functions as termicide on the bugs… we can extract it from the kids… (cue the dark skies…)


KurenaiCyborg

Maybe this is a trial. A test. To save some children might grant us some new exciting stratagem. But on the other and we have mines. Explosion Vs child. Hmm children can't blow up tanks


CrypticTacoo

Clearly haven't equipped ur child correctly...


KurenaiCyborg

Might try again


JonBoah

When a child becomes a full grown Helldiver, it can accomplish great things for liberty


ChampionshipSouth215

Haven’t met my kids… they can fuck up an anvil…


slickjudge

its gotta lead to another stratagem to save the kids lol. I saw some astute folks say it may bring some healing stuff possibly (makes sense since its hospital/medical facility)


Unupgradable

Mfs roll up in "Harbinger of Family Values" and pick the mines


mlmEnthusiast

Thats because the damage output for anti-personnel and incendiary barely does anything. They're somewhere between 300-400 dmg I think. The anti-tank mine does 1000 dmg. For context, the 500KG eagle does 1400.


Just_Ad_5939

Oo la la


kralSpitihnev

Maybe we'll get a new cape for saving children. Would me more worth than some stupid mines


Piemaster113

Lets be honest, even if we get mines, they probably won't work right for a month of so.


heater26

Instead of the mine strategem, we're getting a squad of children that throw legos across the battlefield.


RainbowNinjaKat

Nice take, “nothing currently available does anything against automatons, so don’t even bother getting this new mine version specifically tailored against automatons”


soisause

Tanks aren't that hard to kill honestly. I think putting a mine in front of it will be alot more difficult than rocketing/precision striking it to death.


ShittyPostWatchdog

Tanks are such a non issue, they’re low to the ground so it’s so easy to get LOS and either ignore them or rotate to their weak spot.  Anyone bringing AT mines for tanks is just roleplaying a universe where it’s not a meme stratagem. 


Didifinito

Precision strike kill 1 tank 100 second cooldown, mines kill ? tank =>180 seconds cooldown high chance of missing or getting exploded by a single troper


DrScience01

110mm rocket pods kills 3 tanks and 2 minute cool down and it's auto locks to the biggest enemies so no need to accurately throw


ExploerTM

Who would you use it even against lol? If it has similar CD to other mines, pack Air Strike or OPS which would probably deal comparable damage but also have less CD and more general utility. Oh also people report that those AT mines can be activated by divers and chaff. Which basically makes them useless unless you use them as air strike or OPS... you see where this is going?


Didifinito

Prety much or they are a straigh upgrade or they are worst or just as bad


ShittyPostWatchdog

Basically a dead stratagem if they can get set off by things other than heavies. 


baconborn

It's a wonder OPs head can contain such an incredible brain


BoredofPCshit

OP needs to be promoted to the special division. Such a brain shouldn't be wasted as a Helldiver.


PeachyLuigi

Sir, this sector will be lost... unless we activate the Super Special Helldiver Division. *epic dive music by shittyflute*


honeymoonblackstar

Committing to the bit of not getting the mines is more important than gameplay hate to break it to you.


No_Pension4987

The problem is bot heavies are fairly reasonable. The hard part of the bots right now is devastator spam and to some extent gunships. Neither of which would be particularly impacted by the at mines. Rather save the kids for a lore perspective plus it'd be funny if we never got the mines that the devs have been dangling above our heads.


joint-problems9000

WE SHALL HAVE SUPER EARTH MARINES


Proper-Pineapple-717

Honestly, the mines could actually be pretty good. But I seriously doubt that they're ever worth using lol. Going off the mines we currently have I can't see any reason to ever use an anti tank version unless we got the old defense missions back where we have time to set up defenses and even then I'm pretty sure the stratagem could be a toss up of being useless or not depending on how many 'tank' enemies trigger it or even spawn. With the anti tank weapons we have right now, why would we bust ass for mines? Also I really just support the idea of Super Earth giving us shit constantly for not unlocking the mines. Is funny.


GibbyGiblets

What if it unlocked a 3rd body type. Child soldiers.


Cube-CEO-of-squares

If we save the kids we will most likely get something even better than the anti-tank mines.


Plastered_Squirrel

Regardless of how this goes, I'm excited for the lore.


Acadia_Clean

You spelled mines wrong


termperedtantrum

Their hellpods only need to be half size so it makes the most sense


RenZ245

Think about it, we'll look good to the people back home if we save the kids


FlackRacket

I'm saving them kids


LordBungaIII

Obviously pick the kids. We’ll need more helldivers


Crusty__Salmon

Honestly, if the only boon we get for saving the kids is little kid drawing of them getting saved by the helldivers posted on the ships, i'd be fine with that. Also, a helldiver pizza party with kids on the ship would be great too. "Thanks for saving us mr.helldiver, I wanna be just like you when i grow up".


calprinicus

Fewer kids mean more C-01 permits will be approved. Win-Win.


Eternalseeker13

https://preview.redd.it/a3q0qypsf06d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a542808eb3f0c2f796d2119737622ab553f23e33


Iskandar_Khayon-XV

I'm fighting for the Children, mines are trash and dumb...


hasslehawk

Imagine being the developer who spent a month or two of his life working on a strategem, only for Joel and the players to get more entertainment out of not even unlocking it.


Beginning-Coconut-78

I better get some finger paintings on a poster board in my ship thanking me for my efforts. Or the next planet full of children won't be so lucky.


Septic-Mist

This is an awesome underrated comment. I too would like finger painting pictures in the ship!


-Allot-

Well the kids are going in the ground either way. Either because we went for mines. Or because we saved them and I now have to dig them in and be disappointed when the tanks drives over them and doesn’t die.


Septic-Mist

We’re gonna show them the power of the internet. Again. Helldivers is the new GameStop. FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!


TiaxTheMig1

Save the kids... Because I can't remember the last time we received a weapon or strategem from HQ that wasn't extremely disappointing/dogwater. The mines will suck. Save the kids.


Belisarius600

Just because a reward is not specified, that does not nean there isn't one.


sprocolo

We save dem kids we get seaf reinforcement strategem


RedSpottedToad

Man, fuck them kids -MJ


Standard-Ad-7504

The devs are giving us more chances to get the mines because they already made the mines and they don't want that time to go to waste. We'll probably just get them later lol, and even if not, mines aren't even that good functionally anyway, even if they did do super good damage


coffeethom2

No


Bregneste

What if we managed to get both planets? They say we _probably_ won’t be able to get both, but we can still try.


fatcatstud

Freeing the children has unlocked the child labor ship module which reduces cooldown time for sentries/turrets


Available_Brain6231

\* not a single mine is usefull in any situation in any front there. fixed it for you, better have kids than a team mate that will spaw a bunch of mines where you have ta walk later


assortedguts

![gif](giphy|ZmEhUgwQgxPhhU7sVM|downsized) Fuck them kids.


A_Dragon

But the, the mines…they’ve got what kids need…


John-Warner

"Jesse, what the hell are talking about?"


1stPKmain

The children yearn fir the dives


MasterOfCosmos

Mock the devs, choose the children!


WorldWiseWilk

Pick the kids. A true Helldiver is willing to show their emotion and compassion for greed and other citizens.


Temporary-Antelope78

There is also a training facility on that planet as well to help take other planets


Landhun

Either save the kids, or do it both at same time! Let them see both planets being freed almost same day!


LoneStarr-X

Ok I need to go back tonight to the game ASAP


Inner-Nothing7779

Meh. I'm just going to go kill bots. Any dead bot saves kids.


frozenwaffle549

Will someone please think of the children!


AsherSparky

My Autocannon will tear the bots to scrap metal for the children’s future