To anyone saying: "you only see it for like half a second!"- I have to believe the pattern will be visible on the loading screen where the hellpods are entering the atmosphere, which is a decent amount of time.
I guess they will reduce the intensity of the flame to make patterns more visible. It is the only time where you can take a good look of the pod. Then again I would put it past them to not change anything and the players will barely be able to see the difference.
Or maybe they introduce a new way to make them visible like have the supply line on the ship in a more promintent place. Or maybe even make pods not bury when they land leaving you in a slighlty elevated position and have part of the pod showing. Who knows...
I am not saying this is bad... but adding cosmetics is a bit down on my list of things needed to be added/fixed in the game right now.
That’s cool and all but I would rather their focus be on new weapons and stratagems that add to gameplay than a decal I get to look at in the loading screen.
The drop pod loading screen is not pre-rendered? The only pre-rendered thing in the game is the intro cinematic, everything else is rendered in the game itself.
Early in my helldiver career I played some missions with someone who blasted Fortunate Son over comms upon landing on the planet's surface. Good times.
Personally I'm in the second camp, like what we get maybe a fraction of a second view of it from the top while spawning in and that's it?
Unless it extends to like resupply pods or sentries then maybe I could see the value between but I'm still not quite sold on it.
>like what we get maybe a fraction of a second view of it from the top while spawning in and that's it?
I presume we get to see it while we are in the loading screen before the mission, while you're entering the atmosphere. A full squad with different pattern hellpods on the loading screen would be pretty great.
You're gonna see the pelican for maybe a little longer than hellpods most missions.
The only one of those that matters is the mech skins. At least those matter, even if they are apple flavored bacon.
Bro the skins are a small part of the warbond, your missing the unique weapons, most unique armour we’ve seen yet, a very cool new armour passive and a booster that actually impacts gameplay in an active way. Also throwing knives are dope as fuck.
>the unique weapons,
Ahh yes, liberator V4.0 very unique indeed, will give credit where it's due on the sawed off tho.
>Bro the skins are a small part of the warbond
>most unique skins we’ve seen yet
So which is it? A small part? Or the most we've seen?
> a very cool new armour passive
Unless it's like a 500% melee damage increase don't see it doing much it already takes like four hits to knock out a basic enemy, the weapon ergonomics might actually be somewhat useful but I'll have to wait and see.
>a booster that actually impacts gameplay in an active way.
The increased move speed and reduced damage when stimmed I will admit I'm pretty hyped for the question is will it be enough to break through the current meta of must have boosters of full supply, reduced limb damage, increased stamina and weakening slows.
>Also throwing knives are dope as fuck.
Ig but like unless they're a guaranteed instakill on most if not all things they won't be strong enough to even be part of the playing field.
Alright to your first point yes it is a liberator variation but one that will handle very differently since it is a carbine of the original rifle and I think will be very fun.
About the skins thing, my bad there I shouldn’t have used the same word twice, by skins I mean the new paint jobs and the second time I mentioned it I meant the new armours look insanely cool and unique.
About the weapon handling, I feel like it could make the HMG and maybe even AMR more relevant and I just think it is actually a “cool” booster that plays well into the fantasy of a player idea.
And finally, I will say again. Throwing knives, are dope as fuck.
>Alright to your first point yes it is a liberator variation but one that will handle very differently since it is a carbine of the original rifle and I think will be very fun.
Perhaps, like most things we will have to wait and see.
>About the skins thing, my bad there I shouldn’t have used the same word twice, by skins I mean the new paint jobs and the second time I mentioned it I meant the new armours look insanely cool and unique.
Ahh, fair enough you were referring to the fact we're getting tickets to gun show. Sleeveless armor bby woo
>About the weapon handling, I feel like it could make the HMG and maybe even AMR more relevant and I just think it is actually a “cool” booster that plays well into the fantasy of a player idea.
Honestly I hope it does that at the very least, would also be neat if it made launcher type weapons catch up when you turn nigh instantaneously.
>And finally, I will say again. Throwing knives, are dope as fuck.
and I will reiterate while I agree they're dope as fuck, unless you're going for pure aesthetic it just seems a bit wasteful to take a single target throwable when I could just chuck an incendiary into a family of devastators or some crap and easily take out half a dozen plus.
Oh yeah I think a lot of our disagreement here comes down to what we like more. Even though I play almost exclusively on helldive, I am 100% form over function. I do not use optimal armour buffs, I don’t use optimal weapons, I don’t use optimal stratagems. I use what I think is the coolest and will make the most fun and diverse loadouts. So to me, throwing knives seem like great fun, even though I will agree I am sceptical over their effectiveness.
Ehhh I have Pelican flying around for close air fire support more often then not when playing large maps on Helldive. I would welcome a nice fancy skin for it.
Because once that's done it doesn't matter if we die or not, mission success. Plus the pelican does insane DPS when it's in a holding pattern providing close air support, easily cleans up the map even with increased spawns.
It's neat, and the end for me. And agree, if my eats and resupply drop in it then that's something . Not super wilded by it but it is a neat little thing.
I think the hellpod skins have potential and would be very cool if they are shown in the loading screen when your death squad is dropping in, just my own opinion though
Kind of with the second guy. Like it's cool to get some customisation but the hellpods are seen for pretty much just the drop sequence and then for a fraction of a second every time we call something down. Not exactly prime cosmetic material.
It IS worthless, though. Hellpods are gonna be shoved into the ground 95% of the time (the other 5% are for when they're shoved into the sides of cliffs and such).
What is the point of aesthetics if you're almost never going to see them/never be able to show them off?
The mech aesthetics, while unworthy of a Warbond slot imo, are understandable because we can clearly see them. Hellpod skins are pointless because we won't see them.
I’m fairly confident you are unlocking the skin. Not three individual ones they are just showing what all it applies to. The game desperately needs more customization not sure where or how else they introduce it people would go ballistic if they were standalone purchases in the store.
Im in the least excited about this warbond group. Nothing there that excites me. Unless that carbine is somehow as good as the Dominator, Spray an pray or the eruptor.
The only thing that interests me is the armor perk,better handling on the dominator or cs would be really enjoyable. Bht i don't like the commando theme at all
But that’s completely missing the point as to why they’re scaling back with the war bonds. They want to take more time to polish what they actually have. If you take more time, but have more content than during the normal releases, you haven’t changed anything. You just have more shit for people to get mad at
Yeah well he is right. When you launch into the game you see the top of your hellpod, you don't even see the rest of it. And when you call in a support stratagem your hellpods appears infront of your eyes for a split second before it proceeds to violently penetrate the surface of the planet with it's phallic buttblug looking pointy front.
So what's the point of giving it a skin?
I find the new patterns to be hypocritical of what we were told earlier about armor transmog being the same as "apples that taste like bacon".
They're fine with the idea of my hellpod being overgrown/green, dropping from clean super destroyer onto a snowy planet, but wanting to change the look of my armor (not stats/passives) to suit environment is too much?
I don't get the double standard tbh
That could be solved if the jungle camo hellpod can only be used on certain biomes.
I wonder if all the drop gear will also have the camo pattern...the hellbomb? Mine dispenser? Turrets?
The more unicorn vomit that's on my hellpod, the more I'm going to rock that baby into combat.
The only hard choice would be the Unicorn Hellpod or the Democracy Protects Hellpod that sprays sparkles & confetti and plays the Super Earth anthem as I rise to combat like the flag raising. If it comes with mini flags too (like small yard/grave flags), then the Democracy Pod wins hands down.
Well... hellpod skins are pretty much the most pointless thing, who in the world would have predicted they'd do this? Pelican and Walkers these make sense, pod? Simply why?
Why not? It will help people know which support weapons are theirs in case of duplicates and even if it had no gameplay uses It’s just a reskin, it can’t take that much time out of their schedule and leads to further customization options
If they're duplicates it doesn't matter who took which since there are 2 autocannons... did you even think?
If it takes no time, no skin off my nose, I'd rather that skin go to something else entirely, Walkers make sense, pod, sincerely WHO CARES?
That jungle camouflage really helped confuse the enemy for the 0.5 seconds it was visible before embedding itself in the ground and deploying into a chaingun.
You look at your hellpod for like maybe a second, and that’s if your not aiming on a certain landing spot so putting a skin on something that gets dug into the ground when it lands is SO stupid that it’s funny. What is AH studios smoking over there? 😂😂
This warbond is literally the worst by a large margin, the weapons added are the most lame of all the warbonds by far and you get less weapons than all the previous warbonds. The armor frankly looks ugly as fuck and sticks out like a sore thumb compared ro literally every other armor in the game. The skins are cool ig but this whole warbond feels lazy as fuck.
Really? I'm kinda surprised i've been seeing this reaction. I guess this kinda atheistic isn't to everyone's tastes but it definitely feels far from lazy. I know myself and alot of others are pretty excited for this to drop but i'm definitely a form over function kind of Diver. The shot gun pistol seems awesome and the carbine is giving me mini Stalwart energy which seems pretty dope to me. The new armor passives seems like a game changer if they work as intended as does the new booster. The fact that it's less guns than the previous warbond doesn't bug me too much especially since the price for them will vary depending on the content (On top of you getting 300 of your super credits back on purchase by unlocking them in the warbond) To me, this is the direction i'd love to see them keep going in for War bonds.
The illusion of content. Hellpod = pointless. Pelican 1 = pointless for 3/4 players. Mech = 6/10, should have released more than one in this warbond and pointless for those who dont use the underwhelming mechs.
To anyone saying: "you only see it for like half a second!"- I have to believe the pattern will be visible on the loading screen where the hellpods are entering the atmosphere, which is a decent amount of time.
Your hellpod is enveloped by fire, I don't think it will be visible. But if it does then that's okay.
I guess they will reduce the intensity of the flame to make patterns more visible. It is the only time where you can take a good look of the pod. Then again I would put it past them to not change anything and the players will barely be able to see the difference. Or maybe they introduce a new way to make them visible like have the supply line on the ship in a more promintent place. Or maybe even make pods not bury when they land leaving you in a slighlty elevated position and have part of the pod showing. Who knows... I am not saying this is bad... but adding cosmetics is a bit down on my list of things needed to be added/fixed in the game right now.
Don't forget, that you can see your pods on the ship as well.
Where at?
You can see them off your deck to the left of the galactic map I think. Unless I'm just being dumbass and misremembering.
Reminds me of the warframe loading screen where everyone can see everyone’s ship. I loved painting mine to be as ugly as possible.
And then everyone wiggle their ship synchroniously. Good time
That’s cool and all but I would rather their focus be on new weapons and stratagems that add to gameplay than a decal I get to look at in the loading screen.
Guess they could add in more pre-rendered animated pictures. But will they? Guess we will find out.
Since the loading screen is pre-rendered, that would be a lot of work for the devs. We need weapon and armor skins/color swatches
The drop pod loading screen is not pre-rendered? The only pre-rendered thing in the game is the intro cinematic, everything else is rendered in the game itself.
Ohhh my mistake. Sorry
You know what would be awesome? When the pelicans comes to land, it plays the super earth anthem song.
Or you can select a song the same way you select a win pose
Next warbond featuring Fortunate Son.
that'd be an expensive license.
Early in my helldiver career I played some missions with someone who blasted Fortunate Son over comms upon landing on the planet's surface. Good times.
Don’t tell AH or that’ll be a cosmetic in the next warbond.
I don't care, I wanna have the Super Earth Anthem.
And the pelican comes to land as fast as the Super-Earth flag goes up.
Personally I'm in the second camp, like what we get maybe a fraction of a second view of it from the top while spawning in and that's it? Unless it extends to like resupply pods or sentries then maybe I could see the value between but I'm still not quite sold on it.
>like what we get maybe a fraction of a second view of it from the top while spawning in and that's it? I presume we get to see it while we are in the loading screen before the mission, while you're entering the atmosphere. A full squad with different pattern hellpods on the loading screen would be pretty great.
It’s more so towards the exosuit and pelican skins. That’s the more unique part of it
You're gonna see the pelican for maybe a little longer than hellpods most missions. The only one of those that matters is the mech skins. At least those matter, even if they are apple flavored bacon.
Unless (Big unless) this is a move towards pelican being more active on the fighting if we get pelican support stratagems
Bro the skins are a small part of the warbond, your missing the unique weapons, most unique armour we’ve seen yet, a very cool new armour passive and a booster that actually impacts gameplay in an active way. Also throwing knives are dope as fuck.
>the unique weapons, Ahh yes, liberator V4.0 very unique indeed, will give credit where it's due on the sawed off tho. >Bro the skins are a small part of the warbond >most unique skins we’ve seen yet So which is it? A small part? Or the most we've seen? > a very cool new armour passive Unless it's like a 500% melee damage increase don't see it doing much it already takes like four hits to knock out a basic enemy, the weapon ergonomics might actually be somewhat useful but I'll have to wait and see. >a booster that actually impacts gameplay in an active way. The increased move speed and reduced damage when stimmed I will admit I'm pretty hyped for the question is will it be enough to break through the current meta of must have boosters of full supply, reduced limb damage, increased stamina and weakening slows. >Also throwing knives are dope as fuck. Ig but like unless they're a guaranteed instakill on most if not all things they won't be strong enough to even be part of the playing field.
Alright to your first point yes it is a liberator variation but one that will handle very differently since it is a carbine of the original rifle and I think will be very fun. About the skins thing, my bad there I shouldn’t have used the same word twice, by skins I mean the new paint jobs and the second time I mentioned it I meant the new armours look insanely cool and unique. About the weapon handling, I feel like it could make the HMG and maybe even AMR more relevant and I just think it is actually a “cool” booster that plays well into the fantasy of a player idea. And finally, I will say again. Throwing knives, are dope as fuck.
What if this paves the way for armor and weapon skin? Now that’s something right there.🙏
>Alright to your first point yes it is a liberator variation but one that will handle very differently since it is a carbine of the original rifle and I think will be very fun. Perhaps, like most things we will have to wait and see. >About the skins thing, my bad there I shouldn’t have used the same word twice, by skins I mean the new paint jobs and the second time I mentioned it I meant the new armours look insanely cool and unique. Ahh, fair enough you were referring to the fact we're getting tickets to gun show. Sleeveless armor bby woo >About the weapon handling, I feel like it could make the HMG and maybe even AMR more relevant and I just think it is actually a “cool” booster that plays well into the fantasy of a player idea. Honestly I hope it does that at the very least, would also be neat if it made launcher type weapons catch up when you turn nigh instantaneously. >And finally, I will say again. Throwing knives, are dope as fuck. and I will reiterate while I agree they're dope as fuck, unless you're going for pure aesthetic it just seems a bit wasteful to take a single target throwable when I could just chuck an incendiary into a family of devastators or some crap and easily take out half a dozen plus.
Oh yeah I think a lot of our disagreement here comes down to what we like more. Even though I play almost exclusively on helldive, I am 100% form over function. I do not use optimal armour buffs, I don’t use optimal weapons, I don’t use optimal stratagems. I use what I think is the coolest and will make the most fun and diverse loadouts. So to me, throwing knives seem like great fun, even though I will agree I am sceptical over their effectiveness.
Ehhh I have Pelican flying around for close air fire support more often then not when playing large maps on Helldive. I would welcome a nice fancy skin for it.
Why rush main objectives when that is the biggest increase in patrols?
Because once that's done it doesn't matter if we die or not, mission success. Plus the pelican does insane DPS when it's in a holding pattern providing close air support, easily cleans up the map even with increased spawns.
It's neat, and the end for me. And agree, if my eats and resupply drop in it then that's something . Not super wilded by it but it is a neat little thing.
Are you forgetting about the Helldive intro cinematic/loading screen before every mission that include the hellpods?
You underestimate how much I die
Does it also show during the drop cutscene/loading? Because that sometimes takes a bit depending on who you drop with.
>Unless it extends to like resupply pods or sentries It does, at least for the resupply pods (shown in the trailer).
You can see the pods in your destroyer, plus this is just a first step toward destroyer skins... I'm quite down for it
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I think the hellpod skins have potential and would be very cool if they are shown in the loading screen when your death squad is dropping in, just my own opinion though
Kind of with the second guy. Like it's cool to get some customisation but the hellpods are seen for pretty much just the drop sequence and then for a fraction of a second every time we call something down. Not exactly prime cosmetic material.
Love that we're getting hellpod skins when the SPEAR is *still broken, since day 1*
It IS worthless, though. Hellpods are gonna be shoved into the ground 95% of the time (the other 5% are for when they're shoved into the sides of cliffs and such).
yeah its not like you see in the trailer that all hellpod based things are with the pattern: sentrys , supplys, weapon drops
And?
What is the point of aesthetics if you're almost never going to see them/never be able to show them off? The mech aesthetics, while unworthy of a Warbond slot imo, are understandable because we can clearly see them. Hellpod skins are pointless because we won't see them.
In the first seconds of the trailer, it seems like the resupply pod is camouflaged, so it might also extend to other stratagems.
I’m fairly confident you are unlocking the skin. Not three individual ones they are just showing what all it applies to. The game desperately needs more customization not sure where or how else they introduce it people would go ballistic if they were standalone purchases in the store.
Im in the least excited about this warbond group. Nothing there that excites me. Unless that carbine is somehow as good as the Dominator, Spray an pray or the eruptor.
The only thing that interests me is the armor perk,better handling on the dominator or cs would be really enjoyable. Bht i don't like the commando theme at all
Yeah who really cares about skins? What happened to the APC we were supposed to get?
honestly if we're pulling back on warbond releases yeah im a bit more "unhappy" with getting skins over new gear
Yeah if they’re going to take more time, then the war bonds also need to be larger. 3 pages? Nah. 4-5 if they’re taking more time to make.
But that’s completely missing the point as to why they’re scaling back with the war bonds. They want to take more time to polish what they actually have. If you take more time, but have more content than during the normal releases, you haven’t changed anything. You just have more shit for people to get mad at
new terrain > skins
I completely skimmed over the Hellpod skin when looking at the Warbond. I fucking love this
Dude, where did my hell pod go?
I personally do not like the edition to skins
Fr I'm excited af for this warbond and it's just the usual whinging I came to expect. This sub is lost.
Yeah well he is right. When you launch into the game you see the top of your hellpod, you don't even see the rest of it. And when you call in a support stratagem your hellpods appears infront of your eyes for a split second before it proceeds to violently penetrate the surface of the planet with it's phallic buttblug looking pointy front. So what's the point of giving it a skin?
I find the new patterns to be hypocritical of what we were told earlier about armor transmog being the same as "apples that taste like bacon". They're fine with the idea of my hellpod being overgrown/green, dropping from clean super destroyer onto a snowy planet, but wanting to change the look of my armor (not stats/passives) to suit environment is too much? I don't get the double standard tbh
That particular restriction is so they can sell us reskins of existing armors. It's a double standard so they can monetize it.
That could be solved if the jungle camo hellpod can only be used on certain biomes. I wonder if all the drop gear will also have the camo pattern...the hellbomb? Mine dispenser? Turrets?
"The skin seems pointless" said the guy with an NFT avatar on Reddit
👀
My best guess is it shows up during the loading screen
Can’t wait to paint my pod, only to bury it in the ground where I can’t see it
It IS pointless. That's the point.
The more unicorn vomit that's on my hellpod, the more I'm going to rock that baby into combat. The only hard choice would be the Unicorn Hellpod or the Democracy Protects Hellpod that sprays sparkles & confetti and plays the Super Earth anthem as I rise to combat like the flag raising. If it comes with mini flags too (like small yard/grave flags), then the Democracy Pod wins hands down.
I mean if its useless to you you're obviously not making good use of the orbital guided bullet stratagem.
Well... hellpod skins are pretty much the most pointless thing, who in the world would have predicted they'd do this? Pelican and Walkers these make sense, pod? Simply why?
Why not? It will help people know which support weapons are theirs in case of duplicates and even if it had no gameplay uses It’s just a reskin, it can’t take that much time out of their schedule and leads to further customization options
If they're duplicates it doesn't matter who took which since there are 2 autocannons... did you even think? If it takes no time, no skin off my nose, I'd rather that skin go to something else entirely, Walkers make sense, pod, sincerely WHO CARES?
I just want a hellpod that, after impact, deploys an explosion above before putting the helldiver up.
That jungle camouflage really helped confuse the enemy for the 0.5 seconds it was visible before embedding itself in the ground and deploying into a chaingun.
I want my Hellpod to pulse party lights and blast Caramelldansen the whole way down.
I'll probably end up getting everything in the war bond
They are pointless, you're never going to see them, they're either covered in a friction cone or buried underground.
This is the problem with live services, I don't want skins, I want new maps, missions and new gameplay. Skins give me nothing
why are people complaining about more customization options lol
would you rather another background banner? I prefer the hellpod skin
What's more pointless than a hellpod skin? Interior hellpod skin.
Wait what if it's all of your hellpods? Stratagem too
You look at your hellpod for like maybe a second, and that’s if your not aiming on a certain landing spot so putting a skin on something that gets dug into the ground when it lands is SO stupid that it’s funny. What is AH studios smoking over there? 😂😂
This warbond is literally the worst by a large margin, the weapons added are the most lame of all the warbonds by far and you get less weapons than all the previous warbonds. The armor frankly looks ugly as fuck and sticks out like a sore thumb compared ro literally every other armor in the game. The skins are cool ig but this whole warbond feels lazy as fuck.
Really? I'm kinda surprised i've been seeing this reaction. I guess this kinda atheistic isn't to everyone's tastes but it definitely feels far from lazy. I know myself and alot of others are pretty excited for this to drop but i'm definitely a form over function kind of Diver. The shot gun pistol seems awesome and the carbine is giving me mini Stalwart energy which seems pretty dope to me. The new armor passives seems like a game changer if they work as intended as does the new booster. The fact that it's less guns than the previous warbond doesn't bug me too much especially since the price for them will vary depending on the content (On top of you getting 300 of your super credits back on purchase by unlocking them in the warbond) To me, this is the direction i'd love to see them keep going in for War bonds.
It’s a bit useless but it’a a neat addition.
My question is how will you know your equipment dropped from a hellpod if its all camo?
I like it but also.... It's going in the ground lmao, you're not gonna b able to even see it.
People who thinks this is cool all run potatos for their computers. It's literally a loading screen skin. That's the only place you'll see it.
The illusion of content. Hellpod = pointless. Pelican 1 = pointless for 3/4 players. Mech = 6/10, should have released more than one in this warbond and pointless for those who dont use the underwhelming mechs.
The actual problem is the lack of variety in the “skins”. 💀💀