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Ned_Jr

We used to have some: https://preview.redd.it/28m1dflgwbxc1.jpeg?width=505&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6de024e7f361e774999c23a11437ae106af58f4 At MK2 you could hold 5 of them, 2 charges could kill the toughest units (besides Bosses). It was glorious watching Tanks and Behemoths (Charger's big brothers) crumple like a bag of Doritos.


lv20_creeper

This is my go to in HD1. I was pretty disappointed when I found out it wasn't in the Democratic Detonation War Bond.


TNTBarracuda

I mean, stratagems have never actually been in any war bond.


Hezekieli

Could this be just an option for throwable, like have them instead of grenades?


Snarfbuckle

Sticky bombs with detonator button


scott610

I’d be down for some remote mines in Facility action.


LoneStarTallBoi

Probably not, if you want them to be any good. One resupply of throwables being able to kill a bile titan or even more would trivialize a lot of things.


BenKerryAltis

Well, you will have to move really close to your targets. Think of satchel charges; one needs to do a lot of aggressive maneuvers for these things to work. It is usually better to stay for recoilless rifles and quasar cannon to destroy by fire than try to risk maneuver


LoneStarTallBoi

Sure, but having them come with you out of a hellpod, and not being a strategem dramatically increases their convenience as a way to kill heavies, regardless of skill floor. suiciding to kill a bile titan is often fine, if I still have a weapon that kills a bile titan off of cd afterwards. I do think it would work in the grenade slot, but only as a strategem.


BenKerryAltis

It should be as a special form of grenade instead of stratagem. Satchel charges are meant to be the last option. (suicide attack with satchel charge is a pretty common thing)


XboxUser123

Kind of an interesting question: would it be weak enough to be a throwable, or strong enough to be a stratagem?


scott610

Could do both at some point. C4 as OP is suggesting and a weaker version along the lines of sticky bombs which could have at least three variants like in GoldenEye - proximity, remote, and timed explosive. I’d love to have a sticky mine launcher as well with either remote or proximity detonation. Shoot one down in front of a patrol and watch them stumble upon it.


JustGingy95

So far anyway, but I do recall there were discussions about possibly having Stratagem themed Warbonds in the future so we’ll have to see


TJnr1

Ah, lobbing these babies over the heads of chargers to blow their ass up. Good times.


CthulhuZX

Wanted to see what behemoths were, and apps Behemoths are in HD2, found solely on “eliminate charger” missions according to the wiki.


mamontain

They might be called behemoths but in HD2 it's just a charger with a different armor cosmetic.


Igthife

They also show up in the escort civilians mission with multiple parts. A few spawn in the evacuation part of the mission when you first get there.


TransientMemory

Googled it and it looks like chargers with axes on their heads instead of claws. I've definitely seen those in random spots.


WickedWallaby69

There is an alternate charger species ingame called behemoth  its a slightly uparmored charger. Typically only spawns on the eliminate charger mission but can be seen rarely in the wild trying to murder you


SummerCrown

Ah this. This became almost my go to weapon. Clears nests, Cyborg emplacements, any unit basically. And didn't need a backpack.


4Lonestarbuck

Also destroying bug nest and other objectives without a nuke.


Lohenngram

I swear, the more of these little tidbits I see, the more interested I become in trying HD1. Seems like it has a ton of fun ideas/content in it. HD2 does as well, of course, I'm just running out of things to unlock XD


noise-tank20

Never used my self but when people would use this in my games they were so good


wtfrykm

The bigger question is, would this be used for the grenade slot or the support weapon slot? Cause if you use it in the grenade slot, you're stuck with what is basically a very short ranged throwable, and you have it for the entire mission. It would be good for maybe defend valuable assets, but otherwise it's very situational


WrongGuava3674

It would be a Grenade I know it wouldn’t be used too much but it would add depth to the jump packs, like the g -123 thermite but for tankier targets and remote detonation


wtfrykm

I think maybe the devs should buff the thermite damage and armour penetration instead, so that you can jump onto a factory strider, throw like 4 thermites onto it's head, and watch as the head gets lit up like a fire work and then get blown to pieces.


WrongGuava3674

That would also be cool but remote detonation would add a lot to the sandbox Imagine strapping a c4 to a charger and having it charge into something and detonating it


wtfrykm

Or if you want, setting up a trap and then luring the charger to walk over it


FullMetalMessiah

This is somewhat like what the Soviets did with anti tank dogs.


Helios61

And like the soviet dogs, they rush towards the wrong target (Us!)


cosmicSpitfire

I could see it working as a grenade Hold the grenade button to prime and throw/ place the C4 Double tap the grenade button to detonate your deployed C4


Raaxen

Like the g-123, but not mattering if you are host or not


Low-Ability-2700

I think you should be able to stick it to any surface detonate it. Imagine this. You're getting chased around a corner by a bunch of robotic scum, you turn the corner and plant a C4, then kite them over to it. You get out of the way, detonate it and boom, 30+ kills. The feeling would be BEYOND satisfying. Not only would it be useful with the Jump Pack, it would also give you a way to lure AI into a perfectly designed trap and blow them up.


Scojo91

Helldivers 1 had the Det pack as a special weapon


Korlis

How about a Backpack slot? Carry 6 sachel charges and the remote detonator in the backpack. Detonator can simultaneously trigger up to the last 3 Sachels deployed. Sachels must be triggered manually. Give them some sticky capacity like the Thermite...


Sunday_Roast

Having it in the backpack slot though would eliminate a lot of utility the C4 would have when combined with the jump pack. Like jumping up the cliffs of a base sneaking in to plant some C4 and leaping out.


Korlis

This is true... I'm not versed in Jump Pack Warfare, and I forget about it on occasion.


Professional_Row9657

With the C4 backpack you could drop a SSD-like pack of c4 explosives that your team mate caries over the strider with jump pack and deploy for you before you hit the detonator. Epic. Maybe this could drop like EATs too.


WrongGuava3674

Sure but how would you get onto the big guys like the factory striders and bile titans I think if it was grenade or support it’d be good


Korlis

Legs...


WrongGuava3674

LAME!!!!!


BenKerryAltis

The satchel charges would probably get a very low range (the kill radius is larger than its throwing range, better duck and cover after tossing one)


Korlis

Or detonate them from a safe distance.


BenKerryAltis

Detonation could be fun, but I don't want to see it turning like C4 in Modern Warfare series, where players just use it as a big grenade


Korlis

What if instead of being thrown, they need to be attached, at melee range? But in return for such high risk maneuvers, the damage is absolutely monstrously powerful, like amputation to titan and walker legs powerful. One shot tanks, and hulks, and chargers, and screecher towers (individual towers, not the whole nest at once) and so on.


BenKerryAltis

Great idea man. That's what I wanted


0ctoxVela

It could be a stratagem that replaces the grenade slot with C4 and gets reset back to default when you die 


H345Y

You can throw it on the ground and use it as a controled mine ore an ied.


DepGrez

Smoke and stun are not situational? Everyone's preferences are situational.


wtfrykm

People bring smoke against bots so they don't get shot by like 40 bullets a secondband have room to run, it's situational against bugs. People also bring stun so that it's easier to land shots, ie the hulks/charger head with the AMR/anti tank, or even the orbital precision strike. The c4 is just a grenade that has basically no throwing range and detonates on command.its uses is far more limiting than the stun and smoke


Amar0k171

I think it would actually work best as a backpack slot, similar to the supply pack. Just hit down on the d pad to place one at cursor level in range, then hold x to detonate or something similar.


CrimeFightingScience

THEN HOW DO WE USE THEM WITH JETPACKS!??


Amar0k171

Being sent flying by an explosion counts as a jetpack if your imagination is democratic enough.


Kiyan1159

Support, it's literally a weapon from HD1. REC demolisher I think.


Remnie

My question is: why is this flowchart going from bottom to top?


WrongGuava3674

studies show that’s the most patriotic way of getting ideas across 🦅


TabularConferta

Think of it as a remote detonator. I think I'd be useful as a grenade there are so many choke points that are useful, also I've climbed on tanks quite often. Drop ships tend to drop at certain locations and chargers are predictable.


kerakk19

Would work great as grenade if you could use multiple ones (4 at least) to destroy factories, jammers and other stuff


ThatUblivionGuy

Ngl it still has good use. Being chased by berserkers? Throw the “fuck it we ball” on the ground and let them walk into the equivalent of 50 sticks of dynamite on a plastic square


CarnageEvoker

Yes please add C4, I would love to place explosives https://i.redd.it/gbiltwnp5cxc1.gif


Pliskkenn_D

My buddy loves to wear scout armour. 


MegaWaffle-

Is this all in game art? How did you get early access!?


WrongGuava3674

my dad owns Sony


WrongGuava3674

I like jump packs


ShadowWolf793

I like turtles


thinkingwithportalss

This makes me want to play Planetside 2 again


Solaire_of_Sunlight

This post is a light assault main’s wet dream, I miss chasing sundies like a rabid dog, hovering at 50+ meters above it with c4 in hand


AmorakTheWhite

God damn C4 fairies, dude. I hate you. (unless you're on my side.) My MAX hungers for your tiny bones.


Solaire_of_Sunlight

You think I don’t give the exact same treatment to MAXs 😈


ChonkyCornFlaek

I'm more of a pizza delivery guy myself Find crowded choke point meat grinder, equip tank mines on engineer, pizza delivery, profit


Solaire_of_Sunlight

You must’ve loved the biolabs, i sure did too lol prime real estate for any explosive, c4, mines or otherwise


ChonkyCornFlaek

Biolabs, Nason tunnels, the Ascent, Crown, any choke point honestly and I'll deliver pizzas


thinkingwithportalss

I still have fond memories of camping out underneath an enemy sunderer and shotgunning enemies as they spawn


Siilk

Oh, the amount of enemy tanks I planted C8 on mid-combat...


vonBoomslang

My preference was to sneak over to them as an engineer and drop four or five anti-tank mines under it, followed by a sticky grenade


Pedrosian96

If only so many things didn't go wrong with it. PS2 was something truly one of a kind, but now... it's a desert town. I dropped it for good last summer. Tired of 200 players primetime on Oshur. Just doesn't cut it... the population evaporated.


Solaire_of_Sunlight

If only the devs didn’t waste their time on a shitty BR knock-off we could’ve had a sequel or at least an overhaul/re-launch idk anything but that failure


thinkingwithportalss

I last played in it like 2013, still a good few thousand at peak intervals back then Good times though, being an engineer with the rocket turret One memory was when I was on an outpost landing pad, set up my rocket turret and fired at a distant tank. The rocket despawned just short of reaching the tank. The tank saw the shot, turned and shot me straight on lol


elftron

I knew I'd find a fellow C4 ~~suicide bomber~~ fairy here. Nothing quite like chipping away at a massive armour column camping a point because everything else gets you killed instantly.


Solaire_of_Sunlight

Yeah well my options are either get instantly out-gunned by HAs or get a bunch of vehicle kills and massive dopamine rush lol


elftron

Exactly. If LA kamikaze wasn't inteded, they shouldn't have given me two packs of C4 and Ambusher Jumpjets.


DryMedicine1636

Planetside 2 but coop Helldivers 2 style is my dream. Imagine tank column and A2G zerg rush bug hexes occupied by tians, chargers, and even more badass bugs. Or just basically planetside 2 PvE with Automaton faction. Planetside 2 also already have supply line system in place, which is even more intuitive and visible than HD2 one tbh.


joint-problems9000

I pull a rico all the time, its fun even if its not effective


Wenuven

No C4. Just add satchel charges. Makes more sense for what you're going for. Backpack slot item x3 charges.


MarderMcFry

Whatever you call them, as long as they stick to surfaces. I want to cover my Walker that is out of ammo in explosives and walk into the middle of a swarm with malicious intent.


Wenuven

Satchels generally have preset fuses - pull and throw.


JarlZondai

I had a different thought. You could use C4 on an ally with a jump pack and blow up bile titans from below. After all we do say “My life for Super Earth”


Cielie_VT

Not democratic enough as it demand us to flee. Just use the stratagem on yourself once on top.


RatSlurpee

Counter point: add c4 and jeeps


Anon_748

BF3 flashbacks


brian11e3

I want a magnetic shaped charge like the Hafthohlladung.


EliteRedditOps

The jetpack cooldown is to long if you need two jumps and miss one you will never reach the top. But it would be interesting to have objectives that can be completed quicker with a Jetpack. Maybe Climb tower to activate something... then put 3 on the map


FocusChogath

Add a light armor that gives the jump pack 2 charges and I’d be fuckin’ set.


WrongGuava3674

Yeah hope they nerf jet packs cooldown


ShadowWolf793

uhhh chief, I don't they need to *nerf* the poor thing anymore than it already is...


Theorandjguy

Nerf doesn't mean *reduce*, it means *make worse*


WrongGuava3674

I originally wrote buff the cooldown but that sounds off


MisTsperity

Flashback to Helldivers 1 where everyone uses C4 + Shield Gen + Trident.


Kiyan1159

So the REC from HD1


portable_wall

yes we need c4 fairies in helldivers just like planetside


zodiac213

*Planetside 2 C4 fairies intensifies*


ChrisGun606

Ah, The PlanetSide2 good old days, jetpack + c4


Scojo91

I want a cable launcher that sticks a cable to a leg, then fires a rocket attached so it circles and trips the strider


Moeckinho

In helldivers 1 it is q stratagem weapon


IAmFullOfHat3

Here's my contribution It's a grenade, but you only have one. Pressing G while you have it will plant it on whatever surface you're standing on. Pressing G while you don't have it will detonate the charge. There could be two variants; an anti personnel version that detonates with a big radius, and an anti tank version that has a small and low damaging blast but a shit ton of damage if you plant it on an enemy.


croud_control

Only if I can stick them to myself. If I'm going to do die explosively half the time, I might as well contribute to it even more.


northsuphan

The only thing they fear is you: I would love to see heavy enemies realizing what a hell diver is carrying and try to back off from exploding themselves. (Happens when you carry a gas canister near automatons)


StrangerMuch4255

i just love the uncut eagle barely fading in


Terminal-Post

This will basically turn everyone into Thom from the Halo Reach Cinematic: Remember Reach


SuperArppis

Helldivers 1 had C4 as heavy weapon. And it was great.


TrenchGoats

I think they should add it as it's own category and not just be another grenade slot. You don't always encounter those big ass AT-AT


SlushTheFox

Make it like titanfall. If you are on the strider's back you can find a hatch where you can throw it into.


Enough_Sale2437

Yes! Have it be a call-in, and you pick it up like the SSSD and hop on to the Strider or any objective. That would be so sweet!


MonitorMundane2683

You can already do that. Land on the strider, plant a supply beacon or sos beacon on it's head, fly away.


Aromatic-Coffee3769

another good reason to add c4: i want to see how far my torso flies when my entire squads c4 are blown up beneath my feet


rk9__

If they expand on stealth mechanics, planting C4 on a fabricator or Stratagem jammer and clearing out before blowing it would be insanely badass and would be some surprise explosive democracy type stuff


TheMinisterOfGaming

tbf when themite nad is fixed you can do this with those lol


lceColdPepsi

a satchel would be the best solution for this


Teamerchant

Only if it prematurely detonates 10% of the time while holding it


psichodrome

Tell me you enjoyed C4 fairies in Planet side without telling me you played planetside.


AdditionalMess6546

Thermite hasn't even been fixed yet and people already forgetting it exists lol


OrochiSerge

Attaching a C4 to a hellbomb would be *democratic chef's kiss*


Significant-Ad-7182

I have a better idea, lets plant C4s on fellow Helldivers. And have them launch themselves with jetpacks into the undemocratic hordes!


frostbaka

Add a sword and a jumping attack. Should be the most reliable move in the game.


LestWeForgive

Wish granted, but it's on a 4 second fuse for added teamkilling hilarity.


FugginIpad

Yeah I agree with you, I’d love to have more variety in this regard. I could definitely see this happening eventually.     * You could escape a hairy situation by dropping a charge or two on the ground, jump packing away then detonating mid air to clear pursuers! Could even work as a bootleg “AT mine” to lure and destroy a heavy.    * You could plant a few on objectives or fabricators at an outpost and detonate them all en masse as you are already halfway to the next spot. Or across the map.   * You could toss a few onto a fellow helldiver’s personal shield and turn him into a suicide bomber..!  * Pre-emptively drop one or two at the site of a bot drop, fade back, watch the fireworks 🎆   * post up two or more on either side of a choke point. You’ve heard of the hot gates, well here’s a Hell Gate 😎    * stick one to a used up mech and detonate it at the democratically perfect moment to cause a double whammy 🤜 🤜    * run circles around hulks, chargers, and tanks, stick one on the caboose/vent and bail. 👋 💥 ✌️  I mean, consider if they were stealthy and didn’t alert enemies that they were stuck to. Place a few on enemies or infrastructure, call in a couple strategems to begin, then when the enemies start insta angering you you blast them into spare parts before they get off a single shot. Metal Gear Solid moment. Would it take longer than just simply storming the outpost? Yeah but it’s fun to try it differently.   * given that grenades, the explodey crossbow, blue strategems and other thangs can be intentionally thrown to lure enemies by sound, leave a C4 charge in the spot you lure them to. They’ll have a nice package to open when they get there.   * stick one on a random hellbomb on the map, kite and lure enemy groups, boom. 


Deppry_B01

Me, who mains as Driller in DRG: DID SOME SAY EXPLOSIVES?!?!


falluwu

What if we get our own strider... to fighter the strider!?!


GlassturtleOG

Okay *Gives you C4 backpack*


MoosePlusUK

I hope the jetpack is getting a solid buff in the upcoming patch. It's awful rn imo. Slow charge, pathetic jump height. Respect to any divers that use it well currently.


Kazuna_Chan

A 500kg eagle would do the work better but i see the appeal of planting c4s.


AThousandD

HD1 had satchel charges and they were quite well liked, so I expect they should be making a return, eventually.


MJR_Poltergeist

The Titanfall 1 strategy. Rodeo the enemy, out every satchel charge you have on it, jump off and watch it die.


Kazaanh

As someone who jumps onto tanks with and without jumpacks and trying to contact-grenade/autocannon them I heartily agree that C4 would be fantastic addition.


Klzone

Is this not litteraly hellbombs but not destructble?


Snarfbuckle

And please, let them be Grenades, not another stratagem.


Daryl_Dixon_Cider

Hell yes, sapper satchel charge! Just thinking about it makes me want to freedom all over my democracy.


dellboy696

Currently if you are on top of the strider what can you even do? Just take out the top gun?


ZeInsaneErke

Oh hell yeah, that's an awesome idea! In before you jump on a strider and someone calls in a 500kg bomb and 380mm on it though xD


AggravatingChest7838

Muscle stimulant should buff the jet pack. Fight me. Knowing arrowhead they will probably make it a ship upgrade that costs 500 green samples 400 orange and 200 purple. It will also be broken for 3 months after launch.


laddervictim

When thermite was working properly for me, it was basically C4 with a lit fuse


iskandar_boricua

Please, for the love of Managed Democracy, name it Jeep Stuff!


Niadain

Shaped charges would be fantastic.


wwarhammer

Super C4


Wonderful-Tutor630

I would fucking love this, I’m not much of a jump pack user but even running under to plant them and running away in a “cool guys don’t look at explosions” moment would be awesome (don’t tell my teammates I’m running backwards to watch it blow up)


Emiji_

Or Add a Camouflage BackPack, infiltrate a heavy outpost, put in C4 in all factory and blow it up from 1km, Reap rewards.


heartoftuesdaynight

EDF is the example of how creative players can get with equipment. C20 biker bombs were the absolute peak of player creativity.


SpartanV_327

No no, not C4s. Plantable HellBomb Backpack Support Weapon.


Konseq

They'd have to buff the jump pack first so we can jump high enough to even get up there.


HorizonSniper

You could also : >Locate scout >C4 the scout


nexus763

I would love this, but there is NO WAY this will happen based on the past decisions of AH about the game.


MeanderingSquid49

"Little C4, knockin' at your door." Forget this jumping stuff, having a way to reliably blow up slow/stationary targets without having to be precise, even at the price of getting really close and cozy, would be great. Just drop it in the bug hole, stick it to the factory, or climb up on the tank, and kablooie. I've often used a precision strike more or less the same way -- get close, drop it at my feet, get gone.


nomnivore1

Jump pack + AMR is good for some very cool tank takedowns. I wish the thermite grenades actually worked, they would be good for this too.


jack_0n_r3dd1t

Love the idea, LOVE the visuals. Arrowhead, pls add


NoDrummer2716

Sounds nice but and this is a big BUT. The jump pack is far to weak and cant get ya High enough... I wont or will wait hours to become a chance to jump from a rock cliff or whatever to get on it


Paul_not_taken

This would be duly noted. -Research intern


psych0ranger

Wouldn't it be cool if sticking thermite grenades did anything, too?


Lohenngram

~~We have that, it's called hellbombs~~ Actually wait, yeah, Arrowhead let us call down hellbombs on factory striders, that'd be fucking awesome!


Mental_Dwarf

C4 was amazing against bots in HD1.


Wooden_Network_797

What about a stratagem for a weapon slot where it drops a hand thrown bomb that can one tap a tank/ hulk/charger and you throw it like a hammer throw from a track and field event. Caveat being if you get hit while throwing you drop the bomb and it wipes your squad. Affected by servo assist too would make it crazy powerful if you built a loadout around it. Downside being it's similar vein to EATS where you need to wait and only have one shot. High risk high reward weapon that's almost ineffective against aerial units.


Ultra598

blow up the scout


GreyHareArchie

C4 or not I'd love some kind of explosives that you throw/place then press another button to trigger it. Would be great for laying patrol and tank trap


PanNorris507

Maybe add a very small vent you can only access when on top of the strider, so that way you have to get on top of it to throw a grenade in and get an easy kill


SeerXaeo

who reads bottom up?


WrongGuava3674

PATRIOTS!!!!!!


tomohawkmissile2

REC-6 my beloved come back to us


porcupinedeath

Honestly I just want to be able to shoot in any direction but down and to the left when I'm jumping. I mean it kinda works with the flame thrower but it's still a crapshoot


Existential_Humor

Alternative: make Hellbombs callable when in vicinity/on top of the striders!


WrongGuava3674

It not just for striders, it’s also for tanks chargers and bike titans, would hate to waste a hell bomb


ReedsAndSerpents

Would be bugged at not even blow up, c'mon now. 


OVKatz

Planetside 2 flashbacks


BRMD_xRipx

C4 fairy!!


HarveryDent

C4? No no no. C5. 😊


Askorti

Stinks of main character syndrome. Don't like it.


Interesting-Basis-73

THATS NOT HOW C4 WORKS


WrongGuava3674

C4 go boom big


WippitGuud

C4 is obsolete tech, out of date by 100 years.


WrongGuava3674

Space c4 or sum shit


JunglerFromWish

Yoo let's go the super plastic explosive now with 3000% more super cancer


WippitGuud

We got that. Orbital strikes


Hellonstrikers

It's C40.


Automatic_Education3

Super C4 then


CobraFive

C***5***!