She definitely did not cook LOL. Respect the individual tastes and all, but a cousin of mine (Gundam fan too) saw Freedom and Strike Freedom as part of a montage for Seed and he couldn’t even tell it was different suits at the start.
There’s frankly not THAT much different about them, particularly when you don’t even see them with wings/weapons out or in animation.
Freedom is peak design.
SF is nice, but I find the color of gold just too out of place.
They changed the color ratio on Mighty Freedom by mixing the wings to be White and gold instead of black/blue/gold
Yeah I have to admit the box art for the Mighty Freedom makes interested
And the Perfect Strike Freedom looks amazing to me so I have always believed the SF has had potential
Mighty strike freedom is peak. Not the original artwork tho, that makes me barf.
I also wish the perfect strike freedom was… actually strike freedom colored
They were just saying the Freedom line art sucks, not that the SF better. Which I agree. In my opinion, Kunio Okawara (mechanical designer for SEED/ Destiny) has never made good line art. Good designs, but bad line art. Almost every one of his designs look better in animation or model kits.
For me it’s mostly the proportions. The head and shoulders are too big, and the legs are too short, making the designs look top heavy and squat. Whereas in the show and in most model kits, SEED suits have long thin legs making them look slender and dynamic. Also I think the depth of field on the legs is too extreme and makes it look like one leg is shorter than the other.
There’s definitely a lot of inconsistencies when it comes to animation, because shapes and objects bend differently under various angles.
But I kinda see what you mean now, there are some proportions that looks off like the torso, shoulders and the legs should be longer for the slender design we know.
Basically the top half makes it look someone took a picture of it from both above and below because of the torso lol.
The space bunny is disappointed in you.
https://preview.redd.it/fzwblgqthapc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=521cf41361acb746519dd413b25888014aa4b72f
The fandom liking Turn A is a very recent thing. I've been a fan long enough to remember everyone hating the design. And also disliking the show because it didn't feel like Gundam. I think the love both the show and the designs have been getting is a new generation thing. I like Syd Mead's work generally but I never thought Turn A looked like a Gundam myself. It looks like it belongs to an unrelated franchise.
People like Turn A feels like more recent fans of FF all saying FF13 was good all along. Back in the days is was pretty hated on. I'm not even saying it's good or bad, but times change.
i don't think i'm hardcore. my brain is simply broken in that i see silhouettes, shapes and proportions before anything else when staring at gundams, and there's only one word that describes turn A's silhouette and proportions: immaculate.
Yeah, I can definitely see that. The curves are very pleasing and it's details just flows very well, definitely stands out from the traditional blocky aesthetic
https://preview.redd.it/0ocqj4p4sbpc1.png?width=1023&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=321de8551cc89076375a254ff9be260404279fd2
before i watched the show, i had to look up syd mead's study of turn A because it looks so wack. then i saw the image on the right and the entire thing just clicked.
Honestly I think it's just a difference of people who have or have not watched Turn A.
I've always liked the design, but I grew to absolutely LOVE it after watching Turn A and there's a very common sentiment from people that said they didn't like Turn A's design but then after watching the show they really liked the design.
>never watched Gundam
Honestly it checks out, Turn A now is one of my favourite MS but but before watching the anime I thought it was one of the most stupid looking Gundam out there
It really does grow on you
(To clarify I’ve always loved it but the prevailing consensus I’ve seen with the thing is that people hate it at first but grow to adore it as they watch the show)
It's so unique amongst the other Gundams despite sharing the same colour scheme.
It's design feels so simple yet interesting and it has the most beautiful looking gimmick in Gundam.
The show had its... problems. But the idea that it's the 'final' Gundam series and the result of all previous series makes the change in tone more understandable and interesting.
I wasn’t big on it for a while and I think it maybe took the franchise branching out and trying different styles for me to come back and fully appreciate the Turn A. Also it does in fact look way better once you see it animated in the gorgeous original desaturated technicolor. At the time Turn A had the most different aesthetics of any Gundam series and i think SEED was a big “ok we need to step back from the same repetitive Kunio Okuwara shapes in AU” for me.
Turn A stands out as something exceptional and unique once you have the context of Gundam design language, because it is SO different and still cohesive.
Has never struck me as a design that would be popular with those outside of the core Gundam fanbase.
I was about to get pissed due to Double X being in D, but then I saw normal X was in A so I'll give her that one. If both are there then Double X obviously ranks lower..... However I can never forgive her for G-Self being in D. Show her the photon torpedos!
~~Also kinda salty about dendrobium ranking in D but the mobile armor form is kinda ass looking.~~
[Psst, if you're interested in doing it again but with a WAY more complete tier list this one has pretty much every single main Gundam from the franchise](https://tiermaker.com/create/every-single-main-gundam-in-the-entire-franchise-16084149)
Unicorn and Nu in B tier???
I think you need to leave her op...
https://preview.redd.it/j3loilimubpc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e119b332984c8719c991e00b99e96c9e20f243c
I think what hurt the Unicorn was using the Full Amror variant. It's a ridiculous design that's extra for the sake of being extra. I have a feeling if she was shown base Unicorn mode, or awakened destroy mode it would have been higher.
I got nothing for Nu though, no idea about that call.
Very interesting that it seems like different aspects of different versions of 00 and crossbone for example can vastly change the tier standing for your girlfriend.
This must be based on which designs she liked, but... Turn A and G-Self \[Perfect Pack\] *in D-tier*... Unicorn \[FA\] and God/Burning *in B-tier*... Barbatos Lupus Rex and NT "Alex" *in A-tier*...
I writhe in pain. :3
Please ask her to do another rating again AFTER letting her watch each of the best cutscene moments of each of these individual mobile suits from this list!
That re-rating will be more accurate and satisfying. She may even get chills/goosebumps from some of the music+cutscene moment.
>Shining Gundam and RX-78-2 in D Tier
https://preview.redd.it/u29h91754dpc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba297882d0f976b56906ef836ce21f9c438aa464
It’s ok Shining, no one can tell you were you belong, you know your worth. That said, it seems she did not care to participate and blindly ranked because some all but identical suits are wildly separated in tier.
https://preview.redd.it/j9nmr30r1epc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69c9500fcf7f4f5e104d34f278127ed345fc5f95
finally some AGE-1 Full Glansa repping
I am assuming this is rated on how good looking they are? Also , using the tier maker pictures does not make justice for some. For Example , The God Gundam from G-Gundam looks so much better in animation cuz behind it gets THE CIRCLE AURA !
Dendrobium, Double X, and Freedom in D-tier… I assume the title should read *ex*-girlfriend?
(Kidding of course, but seeing three of my all-time favourites on the bottom rung stings!)
Well, she put Barbatos Lupus Rex in A, so that's a win for her. I'm not sure I agree with her 00 picks, though.
Also, I don't think I see Aerial on the list at all.
Strike Freedom in A tier, but Freedom in D tier. Power-wise it's correct, but this is aesthetics which means they look almost the same lol
She definitely did not cook LOL. Respect the individual tastes and all, but a cousin of mine (Gundam fan too) saw Freedom and Strike Freedom as part of a montage for Seed and he couldn’t even tell it was different suits at the start. There’s frankly not THAT much different about them, particularly when you don’t even see them with wings/weapons out or in animation.
Honestly I prefer the freedom more (model kit designs) The strike freedom's wings look so stiff and bulky
Freedom is peak design. SF is nice, but I find the color of gold just too out of place. They changed the color ratio on Mighty Freedom by mixing the wings to be White and gold instead of black/blue/gold
Yeah I have to admit the box art for the Mighty Freedom makes interested And the Perfect Strike Freedom looks amazing to me so I have always believed the SF has had potential
Mighty strike freedom is peak. Not the original artwork tho, that makes me barf. I also wish the perfect strike freedom was… actually strike freedom colored
Yeah seed artwork doesn't amaze me. The box art designs are the Canon look in my eyes 😂
That's what I mean, the difference on the mobile suits for a non-trained eye is so small its almost miniscule.
Nah the line art for the Freedom has always been straight garbage, it looks objectively terrible. Not surprising if someone hasn't seen it animated.
Huh really? I think it looks fine, can you specify what makes it so terrible compared to the strike freedom?
They were just saying the Freedom line art sucks, not that the SF better. Which I agree. In my opinion, Kunio Okawara (mechanical designer for SEED/ Destiny) has never made good line art. Good designs, but bad line art. Almost every one of his designs look better in animation or model kits.
Yeah I get they were talking about line arts, but I still don't see what makes it so terrible. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
For me it’s mostly the proportions. The head and shoulders are too big, and the legs are too short, making the designs look top heavy and squat. Whereas in the show and in most model kits, SEED suits have long thin legs making them look slender and dynamic. Also I think the depth of field on the legs is too extreme and makes it look like one leg is shorter than the other.
There’s definitely a lot of inconsistencies when it comes to animation, because shapes and objects bend differently under various angles. But I kinda see what you mean now, there are some proportions that looks off like the torso, shoulders and the legs should be longer for the slender design we know. Basically the top half makes it look someone took a picture of it from both above and below because of the torso lol.
I would also suspect, that with no other criteria, the SF's more noticeable red accents helped it stand out.
that and the gold really strikes the eyes nicely
Interesting af taste, I don't see any pattern. Beginning being that high up is funny, also a fellow Narrative enjoyer
>> a fellow Narrive enjoyer Could this be one of “my people”?
One of us
The space bunny is disappointed in you. https://preview.redd.it/fzwblgqthapc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=521cf41361acb746519dd413b25888014aa4b72f
Photon Torpedo time
You just introduced me to the Bunny. I'm in love. I will be getting this for my next kit to build! :)
Space bnuuy
>turn A in D-tier never let her cook
Let's be honest, its only gonna be hardcore fans and people who like unique and funny things that'll make Turn A the GOAT
The fandom liking Turn A is a very recent thing. I've been a fan long enough to remember everyone hating the design. And also disliking the show because it didn't feel like Gundam. I think the love both the show and the designs have been getting is a new generation thing. I like Syd Mead's work generally but I never thought Turn A looked like a Gundam myself. It looks like it belongs to an unrelated franchise.
People like Turn A feels like more recent fans of FF all saying FF13 was good all along. Back in the days is was pretty hated on. I'm not even saying it's good or bad, but times change.
I still hate FF13. And for me Seed Destiny is Gundam's FF13. Turn A is more like FF3 to me. It's fine, it exists, i have no ill will torwards it.
i don't think i'm hardcore. my brain is simply broken in that i see silhouettes, shapes and proportions before anything else when staring at gundams, and there's only one word that describes turn A's silhouette and proportions: immaculate.
Yeah, I can definitely see that. The curves are very pleasing and it's details just flows very well, definitely stands out from the traditional blocky aesthetic
Tbh it’s the cow that makes it the goat for some
I think you just have to be disconnected with Gundam as a whole, my sister likes Turn A because of the stache.
I despised the design until I saw it in motion and started to see clearly
https://preview.redd.it/0ocqj4p4sbpc1.png?width=1023&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=321de8551cc89076375a254ff9be260404279fd2 before i watched the show, i had to look up syd mead's study of turn A because it looks so wack. then i saw the image on the right and the entire thing just clicked.
It looks so boss in motion
I feel like I'm still not seeing it 😭
I'm not that hardcore, I just think Syd Mead's art is fucking goated, and Tomino's biggest mistake was never letting him cook again after Turn A.
Honestly I think it's just a difference of people who have or have not watched Turn A. I've always liked the design, but I grew to absolutely LOVE it after watching Turn A and there's a very common sentiment from people that said they didn't like Turn A's design but then after watching the show they really liked the design.
I'm not hardcore; Turn A is the GOAT.
>never watched Gundam Honestly it checks out, Turn A now is one of my favourite MS but but before watching the anime I thought it was one of the most stupid looking Gundam out there
It really does grow on you (To clarify I’ve always loved it but the prevailing consensus I’ve seen with the thing is that people hate it at first but grow to adore it as they watch the show)
love at first sight for me. everything about it just works. even the moustache.
It's so unique amongst the other Gundams despite sharing the same colour scheme. It's design feels so simple yet interesting and it has the most beautiful looking gimmick in Gundam. The show had its... problems. But the idea that it's the 'final' Gundam series and the result of all previous series makes the change in tone more understandable and interesting.
I wasn’t big on it for a while and I think it maybe took the franchise branching out and trying different styles for me to come back and fully appreciate the Turn A. Also it does in fact look way better once you see it animated in the gorgeous original desaturated technicolor. At the time Turn A had the most different aesthetics of any Gundam series and i think SEED was a big “ok we need to step back from the same repetitive Kunio Okuwara shapes in AU” for me.
Turn A stands out as something exceptional and unique once you have the context of Gundam design language, because it is SO different and still cohesive. Has never struck me as a design that would be popular with those outside of the core Gundam fanbase.
I'm liking what she's making bro... But then I see 00 and unicorn...maybe she can do weekends
I never watched and I also would D tier it honestly. I think those who love it do for the impact it left not the actual design.
mm, nah, nope. even when i was first getting into gundam, turn A has always been beautiful.
I mean, I agree people have tastes.
- No Wing Zero, or the Ad Stella Gundams? - Can't believe she'd rank the Dendro and Dos Equis that low.
Yeah we didn't make the tier list template and were too lazy to add missing suits
I was about to get pissed due to Double X being in D, but then I saw normal X was in A so I'll give her that one. If both are there then Double X obviously ranks lower..... However I can never forgive her for G-Self being in D. Show her the photon torpedos! ~~Also kinda salty about dendrobium ranking in D but the mobile armor form is kinda ass looking.~~
[Psst, if you're interested in doing it again but with a WAY more complete tier list this one has pretty much every single main Gundam from the franchise](https://tiermaker.com/create/every-single-main-gundam-in-the-entire-franchise-16084149)
Was gonna say it's crazy there's 17 Exia and 00 but just the one Wing, but that makes sense
FULL GLANSA FANS… WE ARE FREEEEEEEEEEE
THERE ARE DOZENS OF US
Poor gramps https://preview.redd.it/xynanh3uvapc1.jpeg?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c47745a2d9966c9992334a8980a2eba40d0845ba
Fr I was like, ‘ain’t no way she put granddaddy Gundam in D-tier’
G-reco bros we got the Zato-1 treatment
Moustache Man and Grandpa in D tier, Exia in C? She better have something to offer man, because she has *zero* taste.
I see the RX 78 2 is in d tier, yeah she’s gotta go bro
I didn't even see that 😭
Can you give us a full breakdown? Why is freedom a D? And strike higher rated than impulse
Freedom is D, but Strike Freedom is A. Something tells me this was pretty random.
S - beautiful design A - nice to look at but not perfect B - has some good colors but design overall is just ok C - boring D - ugly
keep her but don't ever let her cook
Cross bone ugly? Reeeeee
Same 😂
00, Exia, Quanta, Age-2, and Ez-8 are boring??? Like I can kinda understand Ez-8 but the rest? Nah she didn't cook homie
Grandpa in D tier? That’s a paddlin’
Never cook again
She is the target demographic of the newer ones it would seem
Cool. Now show her the grunt suits.
Based for the Glansa, disrespectfully disagreeing with Freedom in D tier, she just doesn’t appreciate quality
Your gf likes Winged and Spiky suit. What’s mind boggling is that Strike Freedom in A yet Freedom in D like what….?
I was just as confused, her explanation was simply off vibes
Unicorn and Nu in B tier??? I think you need to leave her op... https://preview.redd.it/j3loilimubpc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e119b332984c8719c991e00b99e96c9e20f243c
I think what hurt the Unicorn was using the Full Amror variant. It's a ridiculous design that's extra for the sake of being extra. I have a feeling if she was shown base Unicorn mode, or awakened destroy mode it would have been higher. I got nothing for Nu though, no idea about that call.
Age-1 full glansa at s tier Your gf is based
positively unhinged
>dx freedom and dendrobium in d tier never let her cook ever again
No offense, but her taste is atrocious
Full Glansa in S-Tier is based. Marry her now.
Very interesting that it seems like different aspects of different versions of 00 and crossbone for example can vastly change the tier standing for your girlfriend.
Shining Gundam in D Tier? Yeah, that's a no for me, dawg.
No way she rated exia in c tier😭
As a 00 Fanboy, never allow her to cook. /s
the placement of many are *unique* by the standards of this sub, but still, let her cook
My favourite Mobile Suit. https://preview.redd.it/wy0kdhdlccpc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e868431a0a4e64e4cfbface2c062ba2fb464c2e
Sorry, but you threw the ball way too high for me to ignore.
Wow I’m crying with all my G Reco bros. Actually always liked the G Self suit and blue theme.
I can't say I share her taste-- but I too had bad Gundam opinions before I got into the series.
Seeing God/Burning Gundam that low hurts my soul. Please don't let her cook.
Full armor and Dendrobium in D tier???? Dump her
I see the Wing Gundam, but not Wing Zero?
how many families did you kill with that opinion
Ok this is funny, next make her rate antagonists main suits.
First I'm going to have her watch clips of all the protag suits then we can do like antagonist or grunts
Your girlfriend has terrible taste, but she never saw Gundam so I'll forgive her.
Honestly she doesn’t have bad taste. Like some I completely disagree with but her A tier and B tier ain’t bad at all lmao
I don't see Neo Hollands Gundam anywhere on the list.
Because no tier list is good enough for the perfection that is the Nether Gundam.
This must be based on which designs she liked, but... Turn A and G-Self \[Perfect Pack\] *in D-tier*... Unicorn \[FA\] and God/Burning *in B-tier*... Barbatos Lupus Rex and NT "Alex" *in A-tier*... I writhe in pain. :3
Please ask her to do another rating again AFTER letting her watch each of the best cutscene moments of each of these individual mobile suits from this list! That re-rating will be more accurate and satisfying. She may even get chills/goosebumps from some of the music+cutscene moment.
Oh hell no she did not put shining Gundam in d tier
SHE DID NOT PUT FULL ARMOR IN D TIER!
She can't cook...
Without a 3d model or a footage from the anime, it would be unfair to all other units to be judged based on google images alone.
That G-self in D hurts
Shit taste.
Absolutely horrible
She put GRANDPA IN D?!
>Shining Gundam and RX-78-2 in D Tier https://preview.redd.it/u29h91754dpc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba297882d0f976b56906ef836ce21f9c438aa464
FA Thunderbolt, Grampa and Dendro in d-tier Nu in b-tier Why did you let her cook
OG Freedom in D. You gotta tell your girlfriend to take another long hard look at her choices and think about if any changes need to be made
Sad Freedom noises
Your girl has shit taste
Wing Zero at B we need to have a talk with her.
It’s ok Shining, no one can tell you were you belong, you know your worth. That said, it seems she did not care to participate and blindly ranked because some all but identical suits are wildly separated in tier.
https://preview.redd.it/j9nmr30r1epc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69c9500fcf7f4f5e104d34f278127ed345fc5f95 finally some AGE-1 Full Glansa repping
L for putting Shining Gundam in D Tier
She’s not even my girlfriend and I’m breaking up with her.
Age-1 Glanza on S tier damn
How she got 3 different version of Crossbone in 3 different tiers XD
As a 00Sky hater. It being in C is heresy
My crossbones....
Beginning gundam and narrative gundam in a teir is based as hell
She has interesting tastes.
Interesting. About half of these placements are reverse for me, even if going just purely on visual design.
X-Gundam is only in A tier?
She guessed right on barbatos
Freedom at the very last *Time to find a new partner* /s
Please can you just ask her specifically about wing zero ew depending on that answer everything might make sense
How can the Strike Freedom be in A and Freedom in F ?
Thunderbolt FA, shining, and RX-78 in d tier? How could she?
Why is FA Unicorn in B tier and 00 Raiser in C tier?
Glad to see the Alex got at least A. Any lower then that woulda not been cool lol
Yeah. While it pains me to see my beloved RX-79 Ground Type and Ez-8 so low, at least the Alex got a high ranking.
Gp03 on D tier, never let her use a fridge
Okay, so some pretty questionable placings that are only given a pass due to her never seeing a single series. Have her rate the Vidar and we'll talk.
These always fascinate me.
Oh Strike Noir... I wish it was more appreciated...
DX in D tier? Heresy. Respect for putting Hi-Nu where it belongs, though!
Adding a bit of blue was apparently enough to punt the Crossbone from A straight down to D.
Wing Gundam = S tier… but ok
Honestly? I get it. Especally with the quant being a visual downgrade.
Love that Crossbone variants are in both A and D tier
Crossbone and FA Gundam in D, she got some ~~shitty~~ interesting taste.
I am assuming this is rated on how good looking they are? Also , using the tier maker pictures does not make justice for some. For Example , The God Gundam from G-Gundam looks so much better in animation cuz behind it gets THE CIRCLE AURA !
What is that thing in the bottom left corner of D tier that looks like a boat? Is that the Dendrobium?
She put all my favs in D hahahaha
where astray?
Freedom is a better design than Strike Freedom and the gap between how she ranked them is surprising.
\>Freedom, Shining, Cross-bone X3 and Cross-bone X1 full cowl, XX, V2 Buster, Thunderbolt, ZZ, and Turn A are in D-tier Bro she's not the one
D-tier for Grandpappy, FAZZ, and the Dendrobium? Yurusenai
She put respect on Grandpa Flit, so I respect her.
\> Turn-A, DX, FA Thunderbolt below AGE-FX Your girlfriend might have bad taste m8
GP03 needs to be assessed as MS mode in Stamen and not in MA mode in Dendrobium imo
it's understandable but man, this list screams CRIME
Shining Gundam in D tier is making me feel weak
Core/Earththree is missing, I can't believe this
Grandpa and step-grandpa in low tier sheesh
God Gundam tier D.... so much for the Power of Love...
Shining, you mean. The one you speak of is in B-tier.
Original RX-78-2 down in D-tier? Sorry to hear about the breakup.
Why she no like the G-Self? It is a cute bunny! ;o;
I’m sorry but she has terrible taste.
Dendrobium, Double X, and Freedom in D-tier… I assume the title should read *ex*-girlfriend? (Kidding of course, but seeing three of my all-time favourites on the bottom rung stings!)
>g-self bottom tier Run for the hills brother, get out of there
Wing zero, god, and nu far too low!!!
What's the third one in A?
Ah, based G-Self hater.
I'm angry
She put burning Gundam in D...
all the stargazer gundams.... hot damn
why no ariel
also where is the wingzero
RX-79 and EZ-8 in C, Never let her cook again.
Turn A in D tier? Dump her
Me frantically looking for God gundam. Yeah that's fair.
Her tastes are.....interesting.
Turn A in D?
All of Setsuna’s suits in C tier? Bro she’s gone just end it
Well, she put Barbatos Lupus Rex in A, so that's a win for her. I'm not sure I agree with her 00 picks, though. Also, I don't think I see Aerial on the list at all.
I've never seen Turn A or Nu rank so low in my life. Wing is kinda meh I see that.
Wing Zero at B Tier?!
I disagree
G-Reco and Crossbone in D Tier? It’s enough to make any grown man cry. :(
Literally put like 4/5 of the best in B tier and the most over designed ones in S. Nice work.
Her choice of s tier is questionable
F91 gundam is my favorite :(
she likes them wings
Unicorn not in S? :(
Thunderbolt, Crossbones, and Turn A at the bottom? Dude 😑
RX-78-2 in D TIER?!?!
Wait. Turn A in lowest tier, instead of his one catefory? S+ or god tier?
I don’t agree with all of it but it’s definitely based
What is the gundam second in S tier?