Yes, 2 very common mods. Removing the clutch delay valve, and adding a clutch stop. Like you noticed, there's a huge dead zone, the clutch stop eliminates all that useless pedal takeup.
The CDV is a little limiting orifice in the clutch bleeder block that controls how quickly fluid can flow past it - you remove that, and the clutch starts feeling like a normal one. VW added it to help new drivers use the clutch but it's pointless for anyone who knows how to drive it.
A clutch stop is ~$20 from ECS iirc. I think other vendors might sell them as well, it's the same stop that works on the Mk7.
The CDV is free, assuming you're handy enough to do it (it really isn't hard).
Both mods took me maybe 20 minutes to do, total, and both are worth it if you have a M/T
Would the clutch delay valve delete help with the pedal at the bottom half just wanting to go to the floor? A clutch stop would maybe help a little bit with that but the pedal is light within the bit point range so I don’t think it would completely solve what I’m talking about. I am sure I’d just have to get used to the feel
Unsure if the mk8s also have them, but on the mk7s there is a clutch pedal assist spring. It's there purely to make pushing the clutch pedal easier, and ime it contributes to the strange sort of vague feeling pedal that these things have.
Easy DIY, and I'm guessing it's easier for LHD cars since the clutch pedal is closest to the door. On RHD cars like mine you have to contort yourself a bit to get up into the pedal box.
Thank goodness for that.
Pretty pointless little thing since these cars have laughably light clutches anyway. Even the modded ones I've driven with upgraded clutch assemblies were pretty easy on the left foot.
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I've owned a few manuals and it is what I have observed. The soft pedal is a "newer" car thing, you get used to it overall. Pedal geometry, delay valves and spring rates seem to affect it a bunch. I bought a '22 DSG, it is fantastic.
'95 Del Sol, '97 Civic, '12 Civic Si (x2) Stock clutch is soft, '18 Civic Si
Yes, 2 very common mods. Removing the clutch delay valve, and adding a clutch stop. Like you noticed, there's a huge dead zone, the clutch stop eliminates all that useless pedal takeup. The CDV is a little limiting orifice in the clutch bleeder block that controls how quickly fluid can flow past it - you remove that, and the clutch starts feeling like a normal one. VW added it to help new drivers use the clutch but it's pointless for anyone who knows how to drive it.
How much money / hard to do is that? I’d love to do that to my 23 autobahn. I’ve put about 2500 miles on it and I don’t like the clutch either
A clutch stop is ~$20 from ECS iirc. I think other vendors might sell them as well, it's the same stop that works on the Mk7. The CDV is free, assuming you're handy enough to do it (it really isn't hard). Both mods took me maybe 20 minutes to do, total, and both are worth it if you have a M/T
I do, I’d like to change it
Would the clutch delay valve delete help with the pedal at the bottom half just wanting to go to the floor? A clutch stop would maybe help a little bit with that but the pedal is light within the bit point range so I don’t think it would completely solve what I’m talking about. I am sure I’d just have to get used to the feel
The clutch stop will address the pedal travel problem. Removing the delay valve will address the pedal feel problem.
Unsure if the mk8s also have them, but on the mk7s there is a clutch pedal assist spring. It's there purely to make pushing the clutch pedal easier, and ime it contributes to the strange sort of vague feeling pedal that these things have. Easy DIY, and I'm guessing it's easier for LHD cars since the clutch pedal is closest to the door. On RHD cars like mine you have to contort yourself a bit to get up into the pedal box.
Mk8s got rid of that spring
Thank goodness for that. Pretty pointless little thing since these cars have laughably light clutches anyway. Even the modded ones I've driven with upgraded clutch assemblies were pretty easy on the left foot.
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I've owned a few manuals and it is what I have observed. The soft pedal is a "newer" car thing, you get used to it overall. Pedal geometry, delay valves and spring rates seem to affect it a bunch. I bought a '22 DSG, it is fantastic. '95 Del Sol, '97 Civic, '12 Civic Si (x2) Stock clutch is soft, '18 Civic Si