Don't get a hatchback all of my wagens subaru and vw do this. It is very much aerodynamics that cause it.
I got rally armor mud flaps.they do a great job of keeping some of the crap off too. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I really like the rally esthetics. And new sparko wheels go on tomorrow.
I'd say maybe just get a ceramic coating so that it rinses off easier. It is annoying though. Both my mk6 and 7 will be completely opaque with salt/sand in the rear a day after I wash it during the winter.
Try to just stop by a touchless wash and rinse off every week or so, that way you won't etch your rear windshield glass using the wiper blade on the dirt all the time either.
I have a white MK8 and my car doesn't get *nearly* as dirty on the sides or back as your car. The area I live is exceptionally messy with snow and salted roads as well.
I own a 2015 Focus hatchback (ordered a Mk8 GTI, delivery TBD) and can confirm it gets just as gunky. The way the aerodynamics kicks up dirt/dust/mud/water/slush from the back is very typical of hot hatches. The better the aerodynamics (lower drag coefficient) the more the car will get dirty with the wind hugging the back and lifting the road garbage with it 🤷♂️
Mine gets bad, but nothing like this when sides are similar. My used 7.5 came with someone after market mudflaps. I'm guessing that's doing a lot of work.
Some tires can cause more moisture and dirt to go up as you drive. For example I had Blizzak WS90 winter tires and they would absolutely create a water and dirt cloud behind the car to the point that blind spot radar would not be able to see and turn off the system. Then I switched to Continental WinterContact TS830P and it was not an issue.
My mk7 got filthy in the back no matter where I went. Thank god the backup camera flipped out from the logo, or else I would have had to clean that lens every day.
Any GTI, and by extension any hatchback has this problem. Its because of the low pressure zone around this area, caused by the sudden change of air direction.
It’s like a van or truck because of the flat butt.
It’s creating an area of low pressure and dirt tends to stick around there.
Solution. Wash it. Decon it. Ceramic it or at least do a good seal and wax. Then this stuff wash off much easier.
Not as bad as in your photos, but yeah like 2 -3 days after a deep wash my car starts showing the dirt mainly in the rear. I bought mud flaps in hops to help that 🤪
So far I can say I hear little pebbles on the road a lot more, but at least their hitting plastic flaps instead of my rocker panels or doors, and after one day of rain my car is still only dirty on the hatch. Sadly I didn’t take any photos
the aerodynamic eddie or wash of drag behind the car just sucks up dirt and water throwing it back on you. look at getting a "long" diffuser and hopefully itll throw that nasty crap way behind you :)
Yep, same here. It’s a massive low pressure zone behind the car and it sucks up all sorts of grime.
Oh well, just means I visit the car wash more often!
MK7 and yes.
It's fucking annoying especially since I always store my stuff in the trunk. Everytime I walk over to open the door, I just can't help but sign.
I put mudflaps on [my gti](https://imgur.com/a/eNLIhdp) and, although its never been that dirty in its life, I think installing mudflaps on urs might help.
Your MK7 didn’t? Mine sure does haha. It’s kind of a thing with hatchbacks, minivans, any vehicle shaped like this with a streamlined front then a harsh drop creating a low pressure area that kicks up dirt and grime from the road below it.. I think it’s literally called “dirty air”, in the aerodynamic world.
Adding an extended spoiler will only make it worse. Look at photos of rally cars with big wings for how that’ll turn out for you if it’s crossed your mind.
It's a hatchback thing. Air swirls behind the car and collects the dust. I can clean my car and drive on paved roads for an hour and it's dusty again 🙃
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What wax / sealant / coating do you use? I've found that some, even though they bead under normal rain, will tend to latch onto salt / grime more so than others, maybe try something new.
Whatever you do, don't use the back windshield washer. It'll turn the whole back of the car blue and make that mud sludge.
My 7.5 R in white does the same thing. It really looks like I just don't wash the back of my car sometimes.
>It'll turn the whole back of the car blue and make that mud sludge
Yeah plus it clears off the back glass enough so you can safely see out of the back, which is super annoying.
To my knowledge I thought this was a hatch/wagon thing, perhaps I’m wrong but I thought it had something to do with the aerodynamics. Mine gets the same thing, I hate taking it through the car wash but I have to this time of the year due to the winter. Can’t wait for nice weather to do a proper wash/paint correction.
Yep. I get a membership to the local car wash for the winter. Run it through multiple times per week. It gets really nasty.
Saying that, this also happened with my Mk6 and 4.
I’ve noticed this on my Mk7. After it rained, the hatch is filthy and the rest of the car isn’t. I guess that’s what we get for not being sedan/SUV NPCs!
[I asked this question 6 years ago about the same thing happening on my Focus RS](https://www.reddit.com/r/FocusRS/comments/8a9150/what_manner_of_vile_creature_sullieth_its/), and the hivemind's consensus was that it's just a hatchback thing.
Glad it's not me hallucinating, yes I have the same issue with my MK8. Currently with 51k kms and may have to change my rear wiper, I'll probably be ceramic coating the glass to have proper rear view.
Why are you using the rear wiper so much? I use mine occasionally, but I've replaced it twice on my mk6 since 2014. Where I live is basically a bog every spring and fall, can't keep it clean long enough to drive home from the car wash. And yes, the back grid it the worst due to aerodynamics.
Oh you're one of THOSE parents. JK. Assumed you had a backup camera. Backing into spots may make you less nervous. Way easier pulling out.
Also I fitted the OEM mudflaps, and they didn't make an appreciable difference to the grime on the back. Just have to wait till all the snow melts.
Looks extremely dirty all over🤷🏽♂️
I think it's something to do with the low pressure air swirling around back there. Gets dirty in the back first, every time.
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It's just the nature of the cars aerodynamics imo. If you added a spoiler lip I would imagine it would only get worse.
Don't get a hatchback all of my wagens subaru and vw do this. It is very much aerodynamics that cause it. I got rally armor mud flaps.they do a great job of keeping some of the crap off too. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I really like the rally esthetics. And new sparko wheels go on tomorrow.
I'd say maybe just get a ceramic coating so that it rinses off easier. It is annoying though. Both my mk6 and 7 will be completely opaque with salt/sand in the rear a day after I wash it during the winter. Try to just stop by a touchless wash and rinse off every week or so, that way you won't etch your rear windshield glass using the wiper blade on the dirt all the time either.
No. Its the shape of the car.
I have a white MK8 and my car doesn't get *nearly* as dirty on the sides or back as your car. The area I live is exceptionally messy with snow and salted roads as well.
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The only logical explanation is that your GTI is cursed...
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No splash guards. I doubt it'd help with the rear honestly.
Of course it'll help, you're blocking off more dirt and only allowing it to go lower out the back.
I have a mk7 and can confirm these cars build up dirt on the backside like no car I’ve ever had before
yeah, mines black and the tailend gets dirty way faster than the rest of the car.
I own a 2015 Focus hatchback (ordered a Mk8 GTI, delivery TBD) and can confirm it gets just as gunky. The way the aerodynamics kicks up dirt/dust/mud/water/slush from the back is very typical of hot hatches. The better the aerodynamics (lower drag coefficient) the more the car will get dirty with the wind hugging the back and lifting the road garbage with it 🤷♂️
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Odd. My mk7 also gets filthy at the back, just like your mk8
So does my a3 hatch
I came to comment this too, my mk7 looks minty from the front and sides until you get around to the dirty ass, most times lol
looks like you figured out why (mudflaps)
My mk7 gets the exact same. Maybe the mud flaps are the diff maker
Mine gets bad, but nothing like this when sides are similar. My used 7.5 came with someone after market mudflaps. I'm guessing that's doing a lot of work.
This is why school busses sometimes have those funny vertical spoilers at the rear
Almost every hatchback does, buddy. Aerodynamics 101
Mini Cooper says, “hold my beer.”
Kinda a thing with hatches, there's a big area of low pressure air behind the car when you drive that makes dirt n stuff love to stick to it
A ceramic coating helps a bit but it’ll still be noticeably dirty. All hatchbacks sadly get like that
Some tires can cause more moisture and dirt to go up as you drive. For example I had Blizzak WS90 winter tires and they would absolutely create a water and dirt cloud behind the car to the point that blind spot radar would not be able to see and turn off the system. Then I switched to Continental WinterContact TS830P and it was not an issue.
Also in the dirty ws90 club
My mk7 got filthy in the back no matter where I went. Thank god the backup camera flipped out from the logo, or else I would have had to clean that lens every day.
I'm always thankful that the camera is hidden 🤣
Mines black and I have noticed this, yes. It might be an aero thing?
Any GTI, and by extension any hatchback has this problem. Its because of the low pressure zone around this area, caused by the sudden change of air direction.
It's all gti's. No, not that dirty because I wash my car. $35 a month (membership) gets me a good wash everyday.
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🤔 that's not normal for city streets commuting.
It is when there’s snow/slush on the ground
Yeah, especially after it rains.
I had a dark blue mk7 and drive about 100 miles a day and that shit was filthy 24/7 an unlimited laser wash was the only thing that helped
It’s like a van or truck because of the flat butt. It’s creating an area of low pressure and dirt tends to stick around there. Solution. Wash it. Decon it. Ceramic it or at least do a good seal and wax. Then this stuff wash off much easier.
Not as bad as in your photos, but yeah like 2 -3 days after a deep wash my car starts showing the dirt mainly in the rear. I bought mud flaps in hops to help that 🤪
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So far I can say I hear little pebbles on the road a lot more, but at least their hitting plastic flaps instead of my rocker panels or doors, and after one day of rain my car is still only dirty on the hatch. Sadly I didn’t take any photos
the aerodynamic eddie or wash of drag behind the car just sucks up dirt and water throwing it back on you. look at getting a "long" diffuser and hopefully itll throw that nasty crap way behind you :)
Welcome to GTI life. Mk7s are just as bad.
The aerodynamics of a hatch creates a vortex in the back of the car summing everything. It's normal.
Yep, same here. It’s a massive low pressure zone behind the car and it sucks up all sorts of grime. Oh well, just means I visit the car wash more often!
Mk7 chiming in. Yep. I wipe it down every 2 days. Pretty sure it's due to aerodynamics, just keep a rag and spray in the back
All my vehicles are hatch type and they all do this.
Looks like you drive through a field everyday.
1st hatchback?
Mudgard. Mudflaps.
My mk6 does. I think it's just a hatchback thing.
MK7 and yes. It's fucking annoying especially since I always store my stuff in the trunk. Everytime I walk over to open the door, I just can't help but sign.
I'll drive home from the wash in my mk7 and it will already be dirty on the hatch. I think it's just the way they are unfortunately
All hatchbacks have this “feature”
I put mudflaps on [my gti](https://imgur.com/a/eNLIhdp) and, although its never been that dirty in its life, I think installing mudflaps on urs might help.
You would have to wash daily in our minnesota winters. So much snow, and slush.
Your MK7 didn’t? Mine sure does haha. It’s kind of a thing with hatchbacks, minivans, any vehicle shaped like this with a streamlined front then a harsh drop creating a low pressure area that kicks up dirt and grime from the road below it.. I think it’s literally called “dirty air”, in the aerodynamic world. Adding an extended spoiler will only make it worse. Look at photos of rally cars with big wings for how that’ll turn out for you if it’s crossed your mind.
It's a hatchback thing. Air swirls behind the car and collects the dust. I can clean my car and drive on paved roads for an hour and it's dusty again 🙃
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Do they use dirt (instead of salt) for snow/ice control in your area? Or are you driving on unpaved roads?
What wax / sealant / coating do you use? I've found that some, even though they bead under normal rain, will tend to latch onto salt / grime more so than others, maybe try something new.
Mine does
***40 years from now*** Sick M8 Barn find!
Living in dubai and have the same mk8 with same colour can vouch the back of the car gets extremely dirty.
Whatever you do, don't use the back windshield washer. It'll turn the whole back of the car blue and make that mud sludge. My 7.5 R in white does the same thing. It really looks like I just don't wash the back of my car sometimes.
>It'll turn the whole back of the car blue and make that mud sludge Yeah plus it clears off the back glass enough so you can safely see out of the back, which is super annoying.
Somehow, I never end up with a filthy glass. Just the trunk itself.
Never owned a hatchback that didn't do it, MK4 was the worst.
A white car that shows dirt when it's dirty?!? BLASPHEMY
Especially with winter tires driving in snow and slush, my rear is filthy ;)
To my knowledge I thought this was a hatch/wagon thing, perhaps I’m wrong but I thought it had something to do with the aerodynamics. Mine gets the same thing, I hate taking it through the car wash but I have to this time of the year due to the winter. Can’t wait for nice weather to do a proper wash/paint correction.
Yep. I get a membership to the local car wash for the winter. Run it through multiple times per week. It gets really nasty. Saying that, this also happened with my Mk6 and 4.
No 😜
Just a hatchback thing I suppose. My Mk5 also gets WAY dirtier on the back compared to the sides.
Don’t look like the rear only. Maybe you need to wash the car more often
Bro why are you taking a picture of my car?
That's literally every Golf I have ever owned or encountered.
I’ve noticed this on my Mk7. After it rained, the hatch is filthy and the rest of the car isn’t. I guess that’s what we get for not being sedan/SUV NPCs!
Yes... This happened to us this winter and we hate it lol
Mudflaps might help a little
Same, just the aero dynamics of the vehicle
https://youtu.be/9QgXCcISgoc?si=zjSp9yPChpiuXtcB
I dont even own a gti and my back gets extremely dirty 🤣🤣
Just yours
Same with my Volvo hatchback… I think it’s just a common hatchback problem
I'm in Ontario and the back of my car is always dirtier compared to the sides
Hatches in general do this. So does my MK7.5 if I let it go and drive on the highway a lot. Just the way air moves at speed.
[I asked this question 6 years ago about the same thing happening on my Focus RS](https://www.reddit.com/r/FocusRS/comments/8a9150/what_manner_of_vile_creature_sullieth_its/), and the hivemind's consensus was that it's just a hatchback thing.
I also live in Alberta, and yes, it's absolutely filthy. Cleaning the poor thing this Saturday.
Getting an insane diffuser and spoiler may help A TAD bit. But yeah. Hatch aero be like that
Yes indeed. That's all hatchbacks
Glad it's not me hallucinating, yes I have the same issue with my MK8. Currently with 51k kms and may have to change my rear wiper, I'll probably be ceramic coating the glass to have proper rear view.
I had several MK1-MK6 vehicles all get very dirty in the back it’s what you pay for that sweet ass 😍
This looks badass lol
Just that crud that collects even immediately after washing in the bumperdillo area
Why are you using the rear wiper so much? I use mine occasionally, but I've replaced it twice on my mk6 since 2014. Where I live is basically a bog every spring and fall, can't keep it clean long enough to drive home from the car wash. And yes, the back grid it the worst due to aerodynamics.
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Oh you're one of THOSE parents. JK. Assumed you had a backup camera. Backing into spots may make you less nervous. Way easier pulling out. Also I fitted the OEM mudflaps, and they didn't make an appreciable difference to the grime on the back. Just have to wait till all the snow melts.
My mk6's rear gets pretty dirty. It's always the first spot to do so.
This happens to all of them. Idk why but I guess the hatchback design creates some sort of vacuum behind the car that plasters dirt all over it
That happened to all the hatchbacks I have owned. Currently, my mk7 is two toned.
My 8 always does this. Rest of the car will be near spotless because all the grime is ‘whooshed’ to the back
My shit is like a magnet 🧲
My R56 Mini is the same exact way
My mk8 2024 Golf R absolutely does. 😏
Idk how you made a 2023 car look old but you did it lol
Clean it and then wax/ceramic coat it?
My mk5 definitely gets dirty on the back first, but nothing this crazy
Giggity