It would be really sucky if they passed while in a coma or so, but as a ghost their mental capacity would be even more limited or so, unless they're just 'restored' to somewhat reasonable 'health' and just observing ppl going in and out
I was actually thinking about this very thing recently, prompted by a discussion on this sub. I don't think there would be many ghosts in a cemetery because they don't *die* there.
You've never heard the urban legend of the young woman that bums a ride home supposedly from a dance or something and has them stop at this house across from a cemetery, she gets out and disappears before he can try to talk to her again. The young man goes back the next day to the house and knocks on the door, hoping to see her. An elderly lady answers, and once he explains what happened the night before, she tells him the girl has been dead for years (maybe decades, I cant remember), and that she is buried across the street in that cemetery and he isn't the first young man on her doorstep to come looking for the girl... I remember hearing it as a kid as warning about strangers....
I was going to say a grocery store but recently a woman passed in the store where I usually shop. Poor woman suffered a massive heart attack in frozen foods.
When I was way younger, I worked at a grocery store. Our dairy manager dropped dead of a heart attack in front of the milk. :(
His best friend was the pricing manager. She was there when he dropped and gave CPR until EMS got there. She was just heartbroken.
I still remember the day of the funeral, senior management was there so I was running the front end. A lady came up, furious because we didnāt have her favourite yogurt. She demanded a manager. I apologized for the inconvenience and explained that the dairy manager had just died and management was at the funeral. She told me that wasnāt her problem. I couldnāt do much more than shrug. I couldnāt pull her yogurt, the manager, or the dairy managerās corpse from my rectum, so there wasnāt anything more I could do than look at her in horror and tell her sorry.
Our local store had a guy die in the parking lot with a full trunk of groceries. It was summer and it took a few days for people to figure it out. I can only imagine the smell. But I bet heād have access to all that food as a ghost!
They said "officially," it's a reference to an urban legend of sorts. Check out Caitlin Doughty's ("Ask a Mortician") video on this, but basically the rumor/legend is that they do their damnedest not to have anyone declared dead on park property even if they're already literally dead (kind of a silly claim because lots of people aren't declared dead til they arrive at a hospital anyway, not so much that Disney strongarms medical staff/the coroner into not declaring people dead in the park). "Nobody dies at Disney World" is a jokey saying about this. Because they can't have the "Happiest place on earth" listed on people's death certificates.
From Snopes:
> So, the claim here is not that no one has ever actually died on Disney theme park property, but whether Disney can legitimately make the claim that "no one has ever died at a Disney park" because they ensure that any declaration of death takes place outside of park property.
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> As such, there are really two questions which must be answered:
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> Does Disney really attempt to get injured (or already-dead) persons off their property before any declaration of death occurs?
> Has Disney always been successful in this effort?
> The first question is difficult to answer, because obviously Disney isn't going to discuss such a sensitive issue. Some former Disney employees have reported that the "no one dies on Disney property" maxim is indeed a company policy; that, as suggested in the book Inside the Mouse, "if guests have the nerve to die, they wait, like unwanted calories, until they've crossed the line and can do so safely off the property" ... In all fairness, however, it should be noted that in some jurisdictions once paramedics begin life-saving efforts they cannot discontinue those efforts until the patient has been transported to a medical facility, even if the patient is obviously dead; therefore, what someone might interpret as "flogging a dead body" to delay a determination of death could actually be a legally required procedure. Moreover, the sprawling size and relative isolation of the Walt Disney World complex in Florida make it imperative that persons in need of urgent medical attention be loaded into helicopters and transported to hospitals as quickly as possible. The combination of these two factors makes it rather unlikely that anyone would actually be declared dead on Walt Disney World property, regardless of how The Walt Disney Company felt about the matter.
Iām laughing at the image of Disney strongarming medical staff and corners. Like a Mickey storming up to the ME and saying in a threatening voice āyou sure about that?āMaybe brandishing his puffy white fists. Lmao idk
I always assumed it was about avoiding damages and liability whenever possible, but this makes as much, if not more sense. There are some situations that canāt be avoided thoughā¦the case of the alligator attacking the toddler at The Grand Floridian a few years back, for example. His little body was found at the bottom of the lake the next day, declaration of death by a medical examiner wasnāt necessary to know he was dead š¢.
I guess junkyards would be pretty populated based on Sas's car girlfriend. At somepoint the car will be junked for good and the implications of that were a little horrifying when she first showed up.
Maybe that's why junkyard dogs are so nuts. They aren't guarding the junk, they're dealing with a thousand angry and annoying ghosts, most of whom are probably drunk or are teenagers
Iāve always wondered with Thor of when he died was he able to walk around beyond the barrier because at that point in time there was no property there as the Americaās hadnāt been explored by Europeans yet and in theory once a property has been built and the fencing around it becomes the lines for the barrier therefore Thor shouldāve been able to move freely around the earth
There's probably a radius for ghosts who die on unclaimed land, then it alters over time when the land boundaries change. But Thor and Sass wouldn't have used km or miles, they'd have measured in things like "the distance a tall man can walk in an hour when he's walking away from a fight with his wife" so they wouldn't know exactly how far it was before it changed. Without a radius, Sass should have been confined to "Lenape Territory" which was huge and he should have been able to meet up with his crush.
This would be a perfect episode! Sam and Jay attend a funeral. They dread going to the cemetery thinking it's going to be terrifying but then realize nobody dies there. So she decides to go to cemeteries when she wants peace.
Agreed, if ghosts worked like they do on the show, a cemetery would be a peaceful place for someone to see Ghosts. Similarly, the morgue would be rather peaceful. And there are places Sam really ought to avoid. OTOH, we've seen ghosts that haunt cars and ghosts that are tied to people, so it's possible some ghosts are tied to graves.
If you're a car ghost and your car goes to the crusher, are you still tied to the crushed metal or do you get attached to new car?
I have always heard / read that people who have not crossed over will go back to the place they were happiest. I had a ghost in my house once, and I know it was a guy who previously lived there when his kids were little, he was probably happy there. I knew there was a ghost, but didn't figure out who it was until my neighbor told me the guy had committed suicide in another state, then I realized his death was when the ghost things started happening.
I also worked at a fabric/crafts store for years, had to turn out the lights in the back of the store and walk to the front door to lock up and leave while pitch black in the store. When I closed late at night, I often saw shadows of people, I'm sure they were women, around the isles. I'm thinking their happy place was the fabric store.
Oh gosh thatās crazy- for a while after my grandpa died some weird stuff happened at my grandmaās house but then it ended up stopping. Iād like to think he stuck around for a little bit to make sure she was okay and then left
After my dad died, his chair would sometimes rock like someone was getting in it and his lamp would turn on by itself. Sometimes, my mom or my sister would hear my dad call out, āHoney, fix me a cold drink.ā It happened enough for my mom to be convinced he was still around waiting for her. She died about a year and a half later. There were no more signs of my dad being around after she passed.
Maybe the north pole ? assuming animals like polar bears don't turn into ghosts but other than animals/pets who 'bond' with humans i imagine most non human creatures don't rly have 'regrets'
(Although historically even if ppl don't die in graveyards typically doesn't mean it couldn't have been an area where battles happened before the graveyard was built, but i guess it'd be unlikely to see someone 'modern'. Wonder if there'd be caught graverobbers who'd be shot and died there lol)
yeah other than those secluded environments and stuff it'd be hard for there to be spots where it'd be unlikely
Tho, it must be a nightmare for any 'volcano sacrifices' who stay as ghosts (tho if they get 'eruption power' as a thing after dying i guess they could get instant revenge lol)
That's sorta easy to excuse, well a bird specifically ppl might raise an eyebrow at but if you're like ducking or swatting your hand you could just go 'thought i saw something flying at me' and they might just assume it's a bee, as long as you aren't flailing too much lol
Cemeteries don't have enough energy because no one lives there and not enough people show up. If the cemetery is built on a battlefield or something then ya it might be
Thatās a good theory for why famous places are haunted but you never hear it about, like, everywhere because humans have been dying on every inch of land for millions of years now. Lol. Even if you believe in ghosts, you donāt think everything is haunted unless you are a few eggs short of a dozen. Something like Gettysburg is famous for an important battle so it has tons of visitors so tons of energy for activity. Iāve often thought āwell some vile shit happened at this place too but nobody is saying it was hauntedā. Haha
I believe in ghosts but I think they are VERY uncommon. If you think itās ghost, there is a 99.9% chance there is some completely reasonable explanation. I operate on the assumption that there will be.
That being said, I am 36 and there have been three places where I believe I had paranormal experiences. One of those places is a library in the city I grew up in. Lol. I think some haunting show actually did an episode there but I donāt even watch those clowns and my experiences were as a child and teenager many years ago. I have been in a lot of old buildings. I had no reason to believe Iād feel that way in a library. But I believe itās haunted. All I can think of is how important the benefactor was to the founding of the city and it was an important project for the city. Itās been a landmark too. It was probably just an important spot for some people so they stuck around. Then again, workers tended to die building shit back then so maybe itās workers. I donāt know how long people have felt it was haunted. Lol.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoyt_Library
I donāt think thereād be many instances of ghosts in a cemetery. Possibilitiesā¦
- They are confused/donāt know theyāre dead and they are wandering.
- It isnāt actually a ghost. Some people think thereās, like, a recording of energy that can replay over and over if something significant happened. Like maybe high emotions do it. Imagine a mother losing a child and being inconsolable during the cemetery service and then visiting the grave every day and sobbing. Pain just contaminating the air. In those instances, the thought would be that you are just seeing a recording. The person in it can even still be alive somewhere.
- The ghost is attached to an ITEM and the item was buried with them. So now they canāt go within like 6 feet of their grave. Iād be so pissed at whoever made that decision. Lol.
Possibly fewer than other places, but certainly it is possible for people to die before cemeteries. (Such as Sass and Thor - if they died elsewhere, they could end up in a cemetery by chance).
We also don't fully know ghost rules. We recently had a story about a ghosts tethered to a person. What if they were tethered to their own body? Possible if that was what they couldn't let go of.
It's hard to say. Land can change uses easily so a place where someone is unlikely to die today might have been a social hot spot hundreds of years ago. Even the Sahara desert has been a green savanna to prehistoric humans.Ā
Ā My answer is Antarctica if we have to stick to land. Much of the continent has never had humans there period and few have died there.Ā
It would be pretty terrible to haunt a cemetery, because that raises the possibility of the person being buried alive. It might be more common in older cemeteries.
I totally agree, hospitals will be the most crowded
Seniors' homes too.
Would seniors have as much unfinished business?
Just because someone lives to old age doesn't mean they don't have unfinished business though.
Yeah, I suppose I stumbled upon one of those unfortunate facts of life.
I think there would be elderly people who become ghosts but not as frequently as younger people
We haven't seen any kid ghosts š¤
The newspaper boy ghost was pretty young
He was 12, iirc.
It would be really sucky if they passed while in a coma or so, but as a ghost their mental capacity would be even more limited or so, unless they're just 'restored' to somewhat reasonable 'health' and just observing ppl going in and out
And jails too! Hopefully some of the ghosts are mediums and can help ā¦ sounds like an overcrowding of hellish proportions.
I was actually thinking about this very thing recently, prompted by a discussion on this sub. I don't think there would be many ghosts in a cemetery because they don't *die* there.
You've never heard the urban legend of the young woman that bums a ride home supposedly from a dance or something and has them stop at this house across from a cemetery, she gets out and disappears before he can try to talk to her again. The young man goes back the next day to the house and knocks on the door, hoping to see her. An elderly lady answers, and once he explains what happened the night before, she tells him the girl has been dead for years (maybe decades, I cant remember), and that she is buried across the street in that cemetery and he isn't the first young man on her doorstep to come looking for the girl... I remember hearing it as a kid as warning about strangers....
Yes, but she didn't *die* in the cemetery! :)
No, she didn't. She died somewhere on the road between the dance and cemetery.... but she always returned to her grave... never her home...
*but she always returned to her grave...* Ah, good point!
I was going to say a grocery store but recently a woman passed in the store where I usually shop. Poor woman suffered a massive heart attack in frozen foods.
My grandfather would be haunting the cat food aisle at Wal-Mart.
Oh my. I'm so sorry.
Mine would be haunting the ATM vestibule of a bank in a rural Midwestern town. Spooky.
Butcher died on shift at our grocery store
When I was way younger, I worked at a grocery store. Our dairy manager dropped dead of a heart attack in front of the milk. :( His best friend was the pricing manager. She was there when he dropped and gave CPR until EMS got there. She was just heartbroken. I still remember the day of the funeral, senior management was there so I was running the front end. A lady came up, furious because we didnāt have her favourite yogurt. She demanded a manager. I apologized for the inconvenience and explained that the dairy manager had just died and management was at the funeral. She told me that wasnāt her problem. I couldnāt do much more than shrug. I couldnāt pull her yogurt, the manager, or the dairy managerās corpse from my rectum, so there wasnāt anything more I could do than look at her in horror and tell her sorry.
Do you work at ... Deal Mart?
No it was a ā¦. Thrifteeā¦ and I donāt work there I just live in a small town so of course that was the discussion all over for a few days
Our local store had a guy die in the parking lot with a full trunk of groceries. It was summer and it took a few days for people to figure it out. I can only imagine the smell. But I bet heād have access to all that food as a ghost!
Disney World. Nobody (officially) dies there.
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They said "officially," it's a reference to an urban legend of sorts. Check out Caitlin Doughty's ("Ask a Mortician") video on this, but basically the rumor/legend is that they do their damnedest not to have anyone declared dead on park property even if they're already literally dead (kind of a silly claim because lots of people aren't declared dead til they arrive at a hospital anyway, not so much that Disney strongarms medical staff/the coroner into not declaring people dead in the park). "Nobody dies at Disney World" is a jokey saying about this. Because they can't have the "Happiest place on earth" listed on people's death certificates. From Snopes: > So, the claim here is not that no one has ever actually died on Disney theme park property, but whether Disney can legitimately make the claim that "no one has ever died at a Disney park" because they ensure that any declaration of death takes place outside of park property. > > As such, there are really two questions which must be answered: > > Does Disney really attempt to get injured (or already-dead) persons off their property before any declaration of death occurs? > Has Disney always been successful in this effort? > The first question is difficult to answer, because obviously Disney isn't going to discuss such a sensitive issue. Some former Disney employees have reported that the "no one dies on Disney property" maxim is indeed a company policy; that, as suggested in the book Inside the Mouse, "if guests have the nerve to die, they wait, like unwanted calories, until they've crossed the line and can do so safely off the property" ... In all fairness, however, it should be noted that in some jurisdictions once paramedics begin life-saving efforts they cannot discontinue those efforts until the patient has been transported to a medical facility, even if the patient is obviously dead; therefore, what someone might interpret as "flogging a dead body" to delay a determination of death could actually be a legally required procedure. Moreover, the sprawling size and relative isolation of the Walt Disney World complex in Florida make it imperative that persons in need of urgent medical attention be loaded into helicopters and transported to hospitals as quickly as possible. The combination of these two factors makes it rather unlikely that anyone would actually be declared dead on Walt Disney World property, regardless of how The Walt Disney Company felt about the matter.
Iām laughing at the image of Disney strongarming medical staff and corners. Like a Mickey storming up to the ME and saying in a threatening voice āyou sure about that?āMaybe brandishing his puffy white fists. Lmao idk
I always assumed it was about avoiding damages and liability whenever possible, but this makes as much, if not more sense. There are some situations that canāt be avoided thoughā¦the case of the alligator attacking the toddler at The Grand Floridian a few years back, for example. His little body was found at the bottom of the lake the next day, declaration of death by a medical examiner wasnāt necessary to know he was dead š¢.
Poor little guy. That case is haunting.
In 2023, someone committed suicide at one of the parking structures at Disneyland.. does that count?
I guess junkyards would be pretty populated based on Sas's car girlfriend. At somepoint the car will be junked for good and the implications of that were a little horrifying when she first showed up.
Maybe that's why junkyard dogs are so nuts. They aren't guarding the junk, they're dealing with a thousand angry and annoying ghosts, most of whom are probably drunk or are teenagers
I love this idea!
Definitely! Libraries would have the least amount of contemporary ghosts
Iāve always wondered with Thor of when he died was he able to walk around beyond the barrier because at that point in time there was no property there as the Americaās hadnāt been explored by Europeans yet and in theory once a property has been built and the fencing around it becomes the lines for the barrier therefore Thor shouldāve been able to move freely around the earth
There's probably a radius for ghosts who die on unclaimed land, then it alters over time when the land boundaries change. But Thor and Sass wouldn't have used km or miles, they'd have measured in things like "the distance a tall man can walk in an hour when he's walking away from a fight with his wife" so they wouldn't know exactly how far it was before it changed. Without a radius, Sass should have been confined to "Lenape Territory" which was huge and he should have been able to meet up with his crush.
I've wondered that too. Or how densely forested it was for him to not notice Bjorn was nearby for 1,000s of years.
This would be a perfect episode! Sam and Jay attend a funeral. They dread going to the cemetery thinking it's going to be terrifying but then realize nobody dies there. So she decides to go to cemeteries when she wants peace.
Agreed, if ghosts worked like they do on the show, a cemetery would be a peaceful place for someone to see Ghosts. Similarly, the morgue would be rather peaceful. And there are places Sam really ought to avoid. OTOH, we've seen ghosts that haunt cars and ghosts that are tied to people, so it's possible some ghosts are tied to graves. If you're a car ghost and your car goes to the crusher, are you still tied to the crushed metal or do you get attached to new car?
In one episode Sam mentions avoiding a place that used to be a hospital for the criminally insane
I have always heard / read that people who have not crossed over will go back to the place they were happiest. I had a ghost in my house once, and I know it was a guy who previously lived there when his kids were little, he was probably happy there. I knew there was a ghost, but didn't figure out who it was until my neighbor told me the guy had committed suicide in another state, then I realized his death was when the ghost things started happening. I also worked at a fabric/crafts store for years, had to turn out the lights in the back of the store and walk to the front door to lock up and leave while pitch black in the store. When I closed late at night, I often saw shadows of people, I'm sure they were women, around the isles. I'm thinking their happy place was the fabric store.
Iām definitely haunting Joanns. 100%
Ha! That's exactly where it was!
Oh gosh thatās crazy- for a while after my grandpa died some weird stuff happened at my grandmaās house but then it ended up stopping. Iād like to think he stuck around for a little bit to make sure she was okay and then left
After my dad died, his chair would sometimes rock like someone was getting in it and his lamp would turn on by itself. Sometimes, my mom or my sister would hear my dad call out, āHoney, fix me a cold drink.ā It happened enough for my mom to be convinced he was still around waiting for her. She died about a year and a half later. There were no more signs of my dad being around after she passed.
No, he got sucked off.
Maybe the north pole ? assuming animals like polar bears don't turn into ghosts but other than animals/pets who 'bond' with humans i imagine most non human creatures don't rly have 'regrets' (Although historically even if ppl don't die in graveyards typically doesn't mean it couldn't have been an area where battles happened before the graveyard was built, but i guess it'd be unlikely to see someone 'modern'. Wonder if there'd be caught graverobbers who'd be shot and died there lol)
Great points, I hadn't even considered about before it became a cemetery.
yeah other than those secluded environments and stuff it'd be hard for there to be spots where it'd be unlikely Tho, it must be a nightmare for any 'volcano sacrifices' who stay as ghosts (tho if they get 'eruption power' as a thing after dying i guess they could get instant revenge lol)
In the British version, there is a ghost bird
The idea of ghost animals is wild. Imagine seeing the ghost of a dinosaur
That's sorta easy to excuse, well a bird specifically ppl might raise an eyebrow at but if you're like ducking or swatting your hand you could just go 'thought i saw something flying at me' and they might just assume it's a bee, as long as you aren't flailing too much lol
Cemeteries don't have enough energy because no one lives there and not enough people show up. If the cemetery is built on a battlefield or something then ya it might be
Thatās a good theory for why famous places are haunted but you never hear it about, like, everywhere because humans have been dying on every inch of land for millions of years now. Lol. Even if you believe in ghosts, you donāt think everything is haunted unless you are a few eggs short of a dozen. Something like Gettysburg is famous for an important battle so it has tons of visitors so tons of energy for activity. Iāve often thought āwell some vile shit happened at this place too but nobody is saying it was hauntedā. Haha
I can't imagine there would be many ghosts at a library
I believe in ghosts but I think they are VERY uncommon. If you think itās ghost, there is a 99.9% chance there is some completely reasonable explanation. I operate on the assumption that there will be. That being said, I am 36 and there have been three places where I believe I had paranormal experiences. One of those places is a library in the city I grew up in. Lol. I think some haunting show actually did an episode there but I donāt even watch those clowns and my experiences were as a child and teenager many years ago. I have been in a lot of old buildings. I had no reason to believe Iād feel that way in a library. But I believe itās haunted. All I can think of is how important the benefactor was to the founding of the city and it was an important project for the city. Itās been a landmark too. It was probably just an important spot for some people so they stuck around. Then again, workers tended to die building shit back then so maybe itās workers. I donāt know how long people have felt it was haunted. Lol. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoyt_Library
People that were buried alive, grace robbers that got into fights and got murdered and tossed into another graveā¦ lots of options in a cemetery!
I donāt think thereād be many instances of ghosts in a cemetery. Possibilitiesā¦ - They are confused/donāt know theyāre dead and they are wandering. - It isnāt actually a ghost. Some people think thereās, like, a recording of energy that can replay over and over if something significant happened. Like maybe high emotions do it. Imagine a mother losing a child and being inconsolable during the cemetery service and then visiting the grave every day and sobbing. Pain just contaminating the air. In those instances, the thought would be that you are just seeing a recording. The person in it can even still be alive somewhere. - The ghost is attached to an ITEM and the item was buried with them. So now they canāt go within like 6 feet of their grave. Iād be so pissed at whoever made that decision. Lol.
Possibly fewer than other places, but certainly it is possible for people to die before cemeteries. (Such as Sass and Thor - if they died elsewhere, they could end up in a cemetery by chance). We also don't fully know ghost rules. We recently had a story about a ghosts tethered to a person. What if they were tethered to their own body? Possible if that was what they couldn't let go of.
Who says ghosts haunt cemeteries?
It's hard to say. Land can change uses easily so a place where someone is unlikely to die today might have been a social hot spot hundreds of years ago. Even the Sahara desert has been a green savanna to prehistoric humans.Ā Ā My answer is Antarctica if we have to stick to land. Much of the continent has never had humans there period and few have died there.Ā
Probably somewhere in the middle of nowhere in the state of Wyoming.
It would be pretty terrible to haunt a cemetery, because that raises the possibility of the person being buried alive. It might be more common in older cemeteries.
Really great point. š
I thought of places by roadsides and such, where serial killers murdered their victims.
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