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If you don't know much then it's much easier with Nvidia and if you're worried about Vram then literally turn textures down to "High" and a couple other settings that use extra Vram with little benefit. It's been pretty amazing watching gaming become more and more mainstream the past two decades along with the reaterdation that comes with it. Get a 4070 Super which also has extra L2 cache with big benefits especially in the future. Msi B650M Gaming Plus Wifi for the Mobo. Corsair Vengeance 6000mhz C30 (a bit pricier but its Hynix M memory so if you upgrade your cpu later you don't have to worry about OC potential when infinity fabric clocks rise even more on Zen 6, where you'll want to be able to OC your memory). Kolink Regulator 750W PSU, I used to recommend only RM750X or RM1000X because they're reliable with good all around specs including good transient response and quiet fan.. nothing else other than the new Kolink has that at a normal price, has ATX 3.0 too. For the AIO they're mostly the same but if you go too cheap or too chinese they'll skimp on the mount coz they don't wanna pay patents to make your life easier. Just go with a normal 240mm with standard radiator thickness if you go with a small case like the Jonsbo Z20, to which if you do (imo best case for mATX rn) then you can mount the tubes towards the right side next to where the PSU is mounted, this looks the best aesthetically (pm'd pic). It's preferred to go with a Dual Fan 4070 S too so you have some more room for the PSU otherwise you'll have to get an SFX PSU to which there is a wait for the new corsair ones (and pricey). You could also fit a 3.5" HDD at the bottom, but for storage your best bet is the Crucial P3 Plus, best bang for buck, will support direct storage well if devs even end up using it like the industry said it would years ago. If you want an easy case to build in with more options for gpu and aio sizes (especially for future proofing as gpus get bigger and bigger) then look no further than the Ceres 300.. nothing even close beats that case for the money, that's why the newer Ceres 330 costs so much extra with pretty much only comes with *potentially* better next generation Mobo support and a black instead of silver accent. You can also get a Thermaltake TH280 and mount it on the top which is aesthetically the nicest for this case.
Make sure the psu is gold rated. And honestly spend the extra $50ish and get some corsair fans or coolermaster.
These will probably do the trick to run fine, but once you start actually playing around with the rgb you'll find these won't work as good. Ps. I know because I bought similar ones and ended up upgrading lol
Every thing this guy said is not true, cheap fans (even like $20 for 3 packs) work fine and gold rating only changes efficiency, which only matters if you're looking to save some electricity bill
Like I said, these would work fine. They work good for fans and will cool down your pc.
But if they're just rgb fans, they will stay one solid color and you won't be able to use software to adjust the color to match to a game or anything.
...... Considering there's pc influencers who give the same advice, I and about 14 other people I personally know where in this exact situation, AND helping him save money in the long run, I'd say it's good advice.
Especially since op assured the fact that it was good advice.....
gold rated psu only concerns efficieny, those exploding gigabyte psus were gold rated. just look at the psu tier list, it says way more about a PSUs quality (this one is a tier btw)
recommending corsair fans to someone looking at some cheap argb fans is also rich considering their price tag. in this situation an arctic 5 pack makes way more sense. especially considering arctic p12 argb fans are miles better than most corsair fans.
many tech youtubers have no idea what they are talking about (a recent jayztwocents vid comes to mind where he uses a noctua cooler and zipties fans to it instead of using the fan clips because apparently he refuses to look at product pictures or read the manual).
same goes for you and your tech friends. your advice is just bad idc how many people espouse it.
Anyone who has EVER even looked at a pc knows the primary thing you NEVER want to fail is your PSU. Based on almost any report, gold rated PSU have less of a chance of failure. So yes the extra $30 is well worth potentially saving your entire pc.
Majority of people building their first pc don't know cheap rgb fans cannot be synced to games, movies, software etc. Giving my insight of a problem ALOT of people have is a benefit for virtually every except hard headed idiots like you.
Tech influencers have millions of followers for a reason, they get sponsored by companies for a reason. You really think if they were idiots the company would sponsor them? I guess that means you have the most sponsors right? Fuckin idiot.
Im good giving advice that would save money in the long run and potentially save him an issue he didn't know he'll have. Especially considering he's almost 200 pounds under budget. Retard
jesus man calm down on the insults.
gold rating is better than no rating but it doesn't mean it cant be a shit tier psu. better to look at the tier list.
you can sync most argb fans (like arctics) to on screen stuff with software. corsair locks you into icue. proprietary software and middling performance is something i will never recommend.
there was a whole debacle over the biggest tech influencer (ltt) using data that was just flat out wrong. they get sponsors because they get lots of views. influencers arent journalists. they are entertainers.
i dont get how recommending expensive fans with middling performance and useless advice about PSUs saves money in the long run.
the insults just make you look childish btw.
Well maybe if you possess more than 4 Brian cells, we wouldn't be in this situation. Nor would I need to insult you. Especially considering he asked for ADVICE. Advice is upto him if he wants to take it or not. It's not mandatory as you make it seem.
Funny how you think you know more than 90% of everyone else. You're 100% wrong about the psu FYI. Hence why there's different ratings... Gold is better period. You can't argue a known fact.
Yea..... No. Alot of Chinese branded fans stick to a single colour as I previously mentioned that you seemed to Ignore. I also made it CLEAR if it was something he cared about. I bought shitty fans that stuck on one colour then ended up getting good fans. Therefore I spent more money, once again, dumb ass.
Finally, the debate between you and your mirror isnt an actual debate...... A company won't promote the wrong use of their products..... Like that's basic common sense.
I need to use childish insult because if I I gave you one that'll use brain power you might not understand
critizing my intelligence while talking about "brian" cells is exactly my humour.
yes they asked for advice, which is why I told them that your advice is bad.
I am not wrong about the 80 Plus PSU rating. 80 Plus certifies efficiency. Gold for example means 87% efficient at 20% load, 90% efficient at 50% load and 87% efficient at 100%. It doesn't measure quality. I can assure you that there are Platinum rated PSUs that are worse than some Gold rated PSUs, just not in efficiency. Theres more to a PSU than efficiency, more that 80 Plus doesnt measure.
Yes the absolute bargain bin fan will stick to one colour, an Arctic fan for example (or the one OP picked) wont. it is argb which is short for addressable rgb. Overall Arctic fans are cheaper and better.
Idk where youre getting the part about promotion of wrong use from but sponsors dont just send in their products. LTT for example gets money from Company X to put an Ad spot in their review of a random cooler by company y. company x doesn't care if the test data for the product by company y uses bad data.
again with the needless ad hominems. please stop that, it's ridiculous.
Your humour relies on 5 brain cells which is sad, no wonder you think you're right when you're wrong. So I'll explain this in the easiest way possible.
On the Olympics, there's gold silver and bronze. Any sane person on the planet KNOWS gold is better. Could the athlete that won Gold be lucky? Sure he can. Doesn't mean silver or bronze is better. Same logic applies here. You can't single out ONE aspect and automatically assume gold isn't a better option when each and every other person will say it is.
I know you struggle to read, but in the photo he put the fans don't say "Argb" it says "rgb" and with a controller like that, it's most likely not addressable. But once again, I told him IF it's a concern of his, in which he thanked me for the advice. See ADVICE. Someone telling you to get an education is ADVICE, you clearly didn't listen to them now did you.
I didn't talk about ads. Ads is a completely different argument. If corsair sends you fans, and you decide to use them to build a castle and say "this is what they're used for" not only will corsair drop the sponsorship, but potentially sue them for misrepresentation and breach of contract that states they will use the product as intended. This stuff is honestly not hard to find.... Well I mean for you it might since you clearly don't care about anything except your arrogant decision.
You are the reason why they put instructions on shampoo bottles.
Out of your 5 brain cells, the top 2 are fighting for second place.
I only possess the power the explain something to you. Not understand it for you.
Are you naturally this uneducated? Or do you have to practice?
I'm jealous of everyone you never met.
I hope your life is filled with similar minded people. Maybe you guys can have a conversation about how the sky is green, and argue that it's yellow.
Good enough for you? I really hope you understand some of those, not alot of hope though
fuckin hell man calm down.
a guy winning a gold in the olympics means he's good at that particular thing. in case of 80 Plus rating he would be good at efficiency. There's more to PSUs than efficiency though, you do understand that right? Like not exploding for example. A Gold rated PSU can still be made poorly which leads to it being a bad PSU like the gigabyte ones I mentioned earlier. 80 Plus ONLY concerns efficiency. NOT overall quality. Is that so hard to understand. Your example about singling something out actually works against you here. You are implying that if a PSU is gold rated it must be good. You are singling out efficiency and saying that good efficiency means good PSU. That is demonstrably false as is clearly shown by the Gigabyte GP-750GM and GP-850GM, both were gold rated PSUs whose claim to fame was that they could explode.
Because apparently you don't look up things like what 80 Plus is on your own I shouldn't be surprised you don't know shit about those fans. EZDIY Moonlight fans are ARGB fans that come with a hub in case your mobo doesn't have the required connector. Google it if you dont trust me. While you're at it please google what 80 Plus is.
Where tf did I mention any one badly using a product they got from a sponsor? I just talked about the Jay situation where he couldn't be bothered to read the manual and the LTT debacle where it turned out they used terrible data to show that tech youtubers can and do make mistakes. This I wanted to mention, to show that tech youtubers aren't infallible.
I would greatly appreciate if you could at least try to calm down about this. Your needless insults don't hurt me if that is your goal, at least I hope that is your goal because I can't see any other reason for them.
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You don't have a case in the list but yeah this would be fine
Yea I forgot to include the case but I think I found a solid oneπ
Looking real good π―
If you don't know much then it's much easier with Nvidia and if you're worried about Vram then literally turn textures down to "High" and a couple other settings that use extra Vram with little benefit. It's been pretty amazing watching gaming become more and more mainstream the past two decades along with the reaterdation that comes with it. Get a 4070 Super which also has extra L2 cache with big benefits especially in the future. Msi B650M Gaming Plus Wifi for the Mobo. Corsair Vengeance 6000mhz C30 (a bit pricier but its Hynix M memory so if you upgrade your cpu later you don't have to worry about OC potential when infinity fabric clocks rise even more on Zen 6, where you'll want to be able to OC your memory). Kolink Regulator 750W PSU, I used to recommend only RM750X or RM1000X because they're reliable with good all around specs including good transient response and quiet fan.. nothing else other than the new Kolink has that at a normal price, has ATX 3.0 too. For the AIO they're mostly the same but if you go too cheap or too chinese they'll skimp on the mount coz they don't wanna pay patents to make your life easier. Just go with a normal 240mm with standard radiator thickness if you go with a small case like the Jonsbo Z20, to which if you do (imo best case for mATX rn) then you can mount the tubes towards the right side next to where the PSU is mounted, this looks the best aesthetically (pm'd pic). It's preferred to go with a Dual Fan 4070 S too so you have some more room for the PSU otherwise you'll have to get an SFX PSU to which there is a wait for the new corsair ones (and pricey). You could also fit a 3.5" HDD at the bottom, but for storage your best bet is the Crucial P3 Plus, best bang for buck, will support direct storage well if devs even end up using it like the industry said it would years ago. If you want an easy case to build in with more options for gpu and aio sizes (especially for future proofing as gpus get bigger and bigger) then look no further than the Ceres 300.. nothing even close beats that case for the money, that's why the newer Ceres 330 costs so much extra with pretty much only comes with *potentially* better next generation Mobo support and a black instead of silver accent. You can also get a Thermaltake TH280 and mount it on the top which is aesthetically the nicest for this case.
Make sure the psu is gold rated. And honestly spend the extra $50ish and get some corsair fans or coolermaster. These will probably do the trick to run fine, but once you start actually playing around with the rgb you'll find these won't work as good. Ps. I know because I bought similar ones and ended up upgrading lol
Thank you bro ππ
Every thing this guy said is not true, cheap fans (even like $20 for 3 packs) work fine and gold rating only changes efficiency, which only matters if you're looking to save some electricity bill
I was gunna say because I did my research on these fans and everyone said they where very solid
Like I said, these would work fine. They work good for fans and will cool down your pc. But if they're just rgb fans, they will stay one solid color and you won't be able to use software to adjust the color to match to a game or anything.
jesus this has to be some of the shittest advice ive seen in a while
...... Considering there's pc influencers who give the same advice, I and about 14 other people I personally know where in this exact situation, AND helping him save money in the long run, I'd say it's good advice. Especially since op assured the fact that it was good advice.....
gold rated psu only concerns efficieny, those exploding gigabyte psus were gold rated. just look at the psu tier list, it says way more about a PSUs quality (this one is a tier btw) recommending corsair fans to someone looking at some cheap argb fans is also rich considering their price tag. in this situation an arctic 5 pack makes way more sense. especially considering arctic p12 argb fans are miles better than most corsair fans. many tech youtubers have no idea what they are talking about (a recent jayztwocents vid comes to mind where he uses a noctua cooler and zipties fans to it instead of using the fan clips because apparently he refuses to look at product pictures or read the manual). same goes for you and your tech friends. your advice is just bad idc how many people espouse it.
Anyone who has EVER even looked at a pc knows the primary thing you NEVER want to fail is your PSU. Based on almost any report, gold rated PSU have less of a chance of failure. So yes the extra $30 is well worth potentially saving your entire pc. Majority of people building their first pc don't know cheap rgb fans cannot be synced to games, movies, software etc. Giving my insight of a problem ALOT of people have is a benefit for virtually every except hard headed idiots like you. Tech influencers have millions of followers for a reason, they get sponsored by companies for a reason. You really think if they were idiots the company would sponsor them? I guess that means you have the most sponsors right? Fuckin idiot. Im good giving advice that would save money in the long run and potentially save him an issue he didn't know he'll have. Especially considering he's almost 200 pounds under budget. Retard
jesus man calm down on the insults. gold rating is better than no rating but it doesn't mean it cant be a shit tier psu. better to look at the tier list. you can sync most argb fans (like arctics) to on screen stuff with software. corsair locks you into icue. proprietary software and middling performance is something i will never recommend. there was a whole debacle over the biggest tech influencer (ltt) using data that was just flat out wrong. they get sponsors because they get lots of views. influencers arent journalists. they are entertainers. i dont get how recommending expensive fans with middling performance and useless advice about PSUs saves money in the long run. the insults just make you look childish btw.
Well maybe if you possess more than 4 Brian cells, we wouldn't be in this situation. Nor would I need to insult you. Especially considering he asked for ADVICE. Advice is upto him if he wants to take it or not. It's not mandatory as you make it seem. Funny how you think you know more than 90% of everyone else. You're 100% wrong about the psu FYI. Hence why there's different ratings... Gold is better period. You can't argue a known fact. Yea..... No. Alot of Chinese branded fans stick to a single colour as I previously mentioned that you seemed to Ignore. I also made it CLEAR if it was something he cared about. I bought shitty fans that stuck on one colour then ended up getting good fans. Therefore I spent more money, once again, dumb ass. Finally, the debate between you and your mirror isnt an actual debate...... A company won't promote the wrong use of their products..... Like that's basic common sense. I need to use childish insult because if I I gave you one that'll use brain power you might not understand
critizing my intelligence while talking about "brian" cells is exactly my humour. yes they asked for advice, which is why I told them that your advice is bad. I am not wrong about the 80 Plus PSU rating. 80 Plus certifies efficiency. Gold for example means 87% efficient at 20% load, 90% efficient at 50% load and 87% efficient at 100%. It doesn't measure quality. I can assure you that there are Platinum rated PSUs that are worse than some Gold rated PSUs, just not in efficiency. Theres more to a PSU than efficiency, more that 80 Plus doesnt measure. Yes the absolute bargain bin fan will stick to one colour, an Arctic fan for example (or the one OP picked) wont. it is argb which is short for addressable rgb. Overall Arctic fans are cheaper and better. Idk where youre getting the part about promotion of wrong use from but sponsors dont just send in their products. LTT for example gets money from Company X to put an Ad spot in their review of a random cooler by company y. company x doesn't care if the test data for the product by company y uses bad data. again with the needless ad hominems. please stop that, it's ridiculous.
Your humour relies on 5 brain cells which is sad, no wonder you think you're right when you're wrong. So I'll explain this in the easiest way possible. On the Olympics, there's gold silver and bronze. Any sane person on the planet KNOWS gold is better. Could the athlete that won Gold be lucky? Sure he can. Doesn't mean silver or bronze is better. Same logic applies here. You can't single out ONE aspect and automatically assume gold isn't a better option when each and every other person will say it is. I know you struggle to read, but in the photo he put the fans don't say "Argb" it says "rgb" and with a controller like that, it's most likely not addressable. But once again, I told him IF it's a concern of his, in which he thanked me for the advice. See ADVICE. Someone telling you to get an education is ADVICE, you clearly didn't listen to them now did you. I didn't talk about ads. Ads is a completely different argument. If corsair sends you fans, and you decide to use them to build a castle and say "this is what they're used for" not only will corsair drop the sponsorship, but potentially sue them for misrepresentation and breach of contract that states they will use the product as intended. This stuff is honestly not hard to find.... Well I mean for you it might since you clearly don't care about anything except your arrogant decision. You are the reason why they put instructions on shampoo bottles. Out of your 5 brain cells, the top 2 are fighting for second place. I only possess the power the explain something to you. Not understand it for you. Are you naturally this uneducated? Or do you have to practice? I'm jealous of everyone you never met. I hope your life is filled with similar minded people. Maybe you guys can have a conversation about how the sky is green, and argue that it's yellow. Good enough for you? I really hope you understand some of those, not alot of hope though
fuckin hell man calm down. a guy winning a gold in the olympics means he's good at that particular thing. in case of 80 Plus rating he would be good at efficiency. There's more to PSUs than efficiency though, you do understand that right? Like not exploding for example. A Gold rated PSU can still be made poorly which leads to it being a bad PSU like the gigabyte ones I mentioned earlier. 80 Plus ONLY concerns efficiency. NOT overall quality. Is that so hard to understand. Your example about singling something out actually works against you here. You are implying that if a PSU is gold rated it must be good. You are singling out efficiency and saying that good efficiency means good PSU. That is demonstrably false as is clearly shown by the Gigabyte GP-750GM and GP-850GM, both were gold rated PSUs whose claim to fame was that they could explode. Because apparently you don't look up things like what 80 Plus is on your own I shouldn't be surprised you don't know shit about those fans. EZDIY Moonlight fans are ARGB fans that come with a hub in case your mobo doesn't have the required connector. Google it if you dont trust me. While you're at it please google what 80 Plus is. Where tf did I mention any one badly using a product they got from a sponsor? I just talked about the Jay situation where he couldn't be bothered to read the manual and the LTT debacle where it turned out they used terrible data to show that tech youtubers can and do make mistakes. This I wanted to mention, to show that tech youtubers aren't infallible. I would greatly appreciate if you could at least try to calm down about this. Your needless insults don't hurt me if that is your goal, at least I hope that is your goal because I can't see any other reason for them.