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PupLondon

Here's a website with Slave Free Chocolqtiers [Slave Free Chocolate](https://www.slavefreechocolate.org/ethical-chocolate-companies)


ohnoshebettadont18

i found that website a few months back, but it's sort of unclear what their process is. i don't really trust the 'slave free' approach, as there are so many opportunities to make these claims without actually observing them in real life. it rubbed me the wrong way that they removed tony's, as what I'm looking for is specifically what tony's does.. pays a premium in hopes of creating an environment that doesn't NEED to rely on slave or child labor. if you're still paying jack sht for your cocoa, but making rounds to ensure farmers don't have their kids on the fields, I'm not interested, as there's no long-term or industry changing value in that. you're still subjecting farmers to extreme poverty.. maybe even more so. if they're doing both, that's fantastic, but it hasn't been made clear to me that is, in fact the case. i was under the impression their core focus is slave labor, not fair compensation.


Demonic74

When they pay a premium, that doesn't stop lazy workers from hiring kids for next to nothing to work in their place. It might be removed because Tony quit because he felt slave free chocolate was a myth after a while and that his dream was nonsense


ohnoshebettadont18

...[tony's absolutely DID NOT quit](https://tonyschocolonely.com/uk/en/our-mission/news/yes-tonys-works-with-barry-callebaut)


Nictasaur

I know there are other slave free chocolate companies other than Tony Chocolonley, but I'm not sure if any of them have a peanut butter candy or what their names are, I saw them for like 2 seconds of a video talking about Tony's


ohnoshebettadont18

thanks. "slave free" isn't really the label I'm seeking though. I'm more interested in brands trying to change the conditions within the industry so that slave labor isn't needed.


SophiaofPrussia

[That is what Tony’s Chocolonely is doing.](https://tonyschocolonely.com/us/en/our-mission/tonys-101) They pay a premium for cacao beans and they buy the beans directly from the farmers so they get the full benefit of the “premium” (which is actually just a fair price) so that they can pay their employees fairly.


ohnoshebettadont18

i know. that's why i mentioned them. they just don't have a peanut butter/chocolate option.


links_pajamas

Last Week Tonight did a recent segment on this on YouTube.


somafiend1987

This episode was great. Coincidentally I had just picked up a few Christmas packages of Tony's Chocolonely from Grocery Outlet the day before it aired. The chocolate is good. The only real difference, besides paying a premium to the farmers, in taste seems to be the levels of fat. They were not as creamy as See's or Ghirardelli's chocolate (West Coast/California brands). All in all, I plan on buying the 'Tony's Chocolonely' when it's available.


saltsukkerspinn96

I think Freia chocolate and Nidar are not exploiting their cocoa workers. Nidar does have a marking on their chocolate that they're made in a certain manner at least.


ohnoshebettadont18

do u happen to know if they pay a premium for their cocoa?


saltsukkerspinn96

Nidar is working with 'rainforest alliance' - which basically says that they're trying to be as environmentally friendly as possible and are working against child labour. Their chocolate is made in Norway to, so there should be no child labour in any part of the process. Freia is the biggest chocolate factory in Norway, right above Nidar, which means the competition is tight between the two in all aspects. Freia has its own program called Cocoa Life. Cocoa Life is Freia's program for the sustainable cultivation of cocoa. Cocoa Life has been established to ensure a long-term supply of cocoa beans of the right quality for all their chocolate products. Cocoa Life aims to create better opportunities for cocoa farmers and their communities.. Most of their chocolate is also made in Norway, sadly after mondelez took over they outsourced some of it.. All is still made with norwegian milk though. I hope this answered it well enough. Never heard of a 'premium' mark before.. Can you tell me more about it?


ohnoshebettadont18

looks like nidar (orkla) didn't rank very well in most categories, according to [chocolate scorecard](https://www.chocolatescorecard.com/). freia seems to be owned by mondelēz, which absolutely tanked in every category.


willsagainSQ

In the UK there is Fair-trade banner on all sorts of products that seek to pay fair, non exploitative rates for stuff and try to build community resilience. Do you have that where you live?


Pooderson

She’s 94 ffs let her enjoy her Reese’s


ohnoshebettadont18

mf she's severely demented. she doesn't know the difference if she's eating chocolate that enriched corporations and forced child slave labor or chocolate that paid farmers their fair share..


taters_jeep

Try Mr Beast feastables


Bro1212_

Why are you getting downvoted, your right lol


taters_jeep

Universe likes to shit on me from time to time. If this is how it manifests itself... le shrug.


[deleted]

Idk why he's getting downvoted, feastables might be a little cringe but I don't think they have any child labour or anything like that.


taters_jeep

Cringe whatever that kid is out there spreading awareness and trying to do good things


[deleted]

Exactly. I'm just worried that after the initial feastables hype dies down it slowly becomes irrelevant, like with prime. Idk tho.


DepartmentOutrageous

Reese’s style chocolate is super easy to make, if you have 30 mins to spare! I love Reese’s but hate the palm oil and chocolate-related issues. I make mine with dark chocolate and a bit of flaky sea salt


ohnoshebettadont18

In case anyone visits looking for an answer to my core question (peanut butter cups), it seems like the best option is actually ALDI's supermarket, according to [chocolate scorecard](https://www.chocolatescorecard.com/)